View Full Version : Sony: Police Woman Season 1. What best describes how you feel?
vashti1999 12-27-2005, 03:10 PM A)Whether or not I'm a fan, I see it as a good sign they're releasing lower profile shows. It says to me Sony plans on putting out a lot of their catalog and gives me hope that MY show will be released eventually.
B)I'm confused by this. Why Police Woman when I'm still waiting for One Day At A Time and Facts of Life? This is good, but they could do better.
C)This pisses me off. They're releasing stuff two people on the planet are interested in while there are other higher demand debuts and continuations they should be releasing. UGH!!!
Dean Winchester 12-27-2005, 04:12 PM a little of each, but I'll give it to B. Sony knows the demand those two shows have yet keep putting it off for lesser known shows
Mister Ed 12-27-2005, 04:34 PM B
Where's the Nanny: Season 2?
Dean Winchester 12-27-2005, 04:52 PM honestly though, when you think about it, Sony has been teasing the PW fans for a long time, so the DVD is probably more than due. They released a "Greatest Cops Shows From The 70's" set that included then-already-on-DVD episodes from Charlie's Angels and S.W.A.T. among others, while there was a Police Woman episode on there and that was it for nearly three years.
vashti1999 12-27-2005, 05:10 PM honestly though, when you think about it, Sony has been teasing the PW fans for a long time, so the DVD is probably more than due. They released a "Greatest Cops Shows From The 70's" set that included then-already-on-DVD episodes from Charlie's Angels and S.W.A.T. among others, while there was a Police Woman episode on there and that was it for nearly three years.
I have that release. Police Woman and The Rookies were the ones not yet released on season sets, while the S.W.A.T, Starsky & Hutch and Charlie's Angels eps eventually made it to their own season sets. Police Woman is something I thought was forgotten by Sony, so it was a total surprise to see them putting out a season set.
This and Walking Tall gives me hope that they want to make a lot of their catalog available for fans, so I'm looking at it as a positive. It would be good if they had some clear direction in terms of what titles should take priority and how often seasons should be released, but I see releases of less popular shows like Tabitha, That's My Mama, Walking Tall, etc. as a good thing. You figure there's no way that those shows would be available and something like One Day At A Time would never see the light of day. It's just not possible they'd ignore more popular shows...isn't it???
Mr. Television 12-27-2005, 05:13 PM I'm ecstatic. This is the only way I'll ever get to see it again. :woohoo:
TV_Fan 12-27-2005, 06:01 PM I voted C. I'm pissed off at Sony, but I've been pissed at them since they pulled Silver Spoons. I'm happy for fans of Police Woman (and I know there's more than two of them), but come on, not even a WORD of when higher in demand shows like Facts of Life will be released. I'm sure FOL will EVENTUALLY be released and hopefully so will SS, but I would think they should have more of a priority. I'm seriously afraid for Diffrent Strokes, what if they pull it after this season. Thankfully most of my favorite shows aren't Sony property.
dawsongirl 12-27-2005, 06:41 PM I don't actually care about any of the shows mentioned, but if PW does well, then good things could happen for everyone.
Why I'm being so optimistic, I don't know...it's not my nature. :lol:
Living In a '70's Dream 12-27-2005, 06:44 PM I guess, I am one of the two Police Woman fans, because I am THRILLED that this show is going to be released on DVD; my prayers have been answered!
Dean Winchester 12-27-2005, 06:56 PM both Pavan and Gord Lacey (TSOD) seem confident that there's going to be ODAAT and maybe FOL DVD's in 2006, so hopefully their perceptions turn out to be true. I know Sony is going to release Maude in 2006, so hopefully One Day and Facts won't be far behind, all three of those shows have a large audience and since none of them are currently being spun in frequent syndication, DVD's will do well for all of them I'm hoping.
Hopefully Sony doesn't decide FOL isn't worth it just because season 7 has a DeBarge song (which wasn't even one of their more memorable tracks, and the same track made it onto Moonlighting's DVD without a problem) which equals "music rights", The Cruisin episode in season 6 has a lot of songs in it too, but if you listen closely "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" and "Dancing Queen" are both soundalike re-recordings, which shouldn't be as expensive as if the original Righteous Brothers and Abba recordings had been featured. One Day At A Time also famously features "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" in an early episode, but since it was Valerie Bertinelli and Mackensie Phillips singing it instead of Elton John and Kiki Dee, hopefully rights to retain usage will be a bit cheaper (as long as Sony doesn't cheapen out like they did on Dawson's Creek when Katie Holmes sang a few 80's songs in an episode karaoke)
vashti1999 12-27-2005, 07:45 PM Just to clarify for anyone who might've been offended, that "two people on the planet" comment was a joke. I know that the actual number of people interested in Police Woman is closer to 6. ;)
mlingerfelt 12-27-2005, 08:13 PM good maybe they will get around to season sets of The Rookies. they need to release 1 more season of SWAT and Starsky and Hutch.
Living In a '70's Dream 12-27-2005, 09:16 PM Just to clarify for anyone who might've been offended, that "two people on the planet" comment was a joke. I know that the actual number of people interested in Police Woman is closer to 6. ;)
:lol: Hey, I know, that I one of the few that LOVES this show, but that is fine with me..:D
seventies_sitcoms 12-27-2005, 09:33 PM Move that number up to 7! I'm thrilled PW is coming out, but where is One Day at a Time!!!!????:mad:
bencasey 12-28-2005, 04:57 AM Or D, happy as hell this is getting released rather than POS shows like Facts of Life or One Day at a Time. Please, those shows are awful. What will people pine for next, Hello Larry? Sony has tons of better shows than those 2 abominations.
Dean Winchester 12-28-2005, 05:11 AM Or D, happy as hell this is getting released rather than POS shows like Facts of Life or One Day at a Time. Please, those shows are awful. What will people pine for next, Hello Larry? Sony has tons of better shows than those 2 abominations.
oh please, upset that people actually REMEMBER those two shows (as opposed to Ben Casey)? a real way to win people over is to bash shows other people like, and a lot of people like those two shows here. I'll gladly take those two shows over any of the stuff you like, thank you very much. You do realize that since you're 48, you're probably a few years too old to be a fan of either show, being older than either Mackensie Phillips or Lisa Whelchel. Those two shows mostly appeal to Gen X-ers, those of us between 25-40, and some of the younger baby boomers. Unless you had a younger sibling or relative who turned you onto those shows (for example, my mom watched and enjoyed both shows because my older sister loved ODAAT as a teen, and I loved FOL as a kid), you were frankly too old to be a fan of either series in their heyday.
Of course, I'm sure both shows are abonimations if you dislike television after 1970. I mean, Ann was a :::gasp::: divorced woman (as was Mrs. Garrett), and don't forget that Natalie had premarital sex even though she was already about twenty-one at the point it happened. Abonimations? please. There are far crappier and cheesier shows from the 70's, 80's and 90's out there on television than these. Both of these shows have wide appeal to people who grew up on these shows, as well as those who discovered them through reruns (I was four when ODAAT went off the air, but I became addicted to the show through E! back in the late 90's). You watching The Facts Of Life in the 80's would be me watching That's So Raven present-day, but even I admit that TSR is a funny series even though I know I am older than the audience it's geared towards.
A lot of people have fond memories of FOL and ODAAT (plus, unlike some shows I watched as a kid, like Full House... both shows are still watchable to me as a grown-up, along with a lot of other people) and both shows will do great on DVD. Maybe those shows aren't your thing but by trashing those shows as well as the people who want them on DVD (which is a great percentage of SO-ers if you haven't noticed), all you're doing is just making sure you piss people off.
vashti1999 12-28-2005, 11:43 AM Or D, happy as hell this is getting released rather than POS shows like Facts of Life or One Day at a Time. Please, those shows are awful. What will people pine for next, Hello Larry? Sony has tons of better shows than those 2 abominations.
It wasn't so much about those two shows in particular as it was about a show like Police Woman (which is lower in the public consciousness than shows like Facts of Life and One Day At A Time, certainly on this forum) being confirmed for a dvd release before those and other more popular shows. I just named those two shows in general terms to gauge people's feelings relative to a less popular release having priority over better liked shows.
However, focusing on those three specific shows and using tvshowsondvd.com as an example, currently:
Facts of Life
Unreleased Rank: 5
Total Number of Voters: 4,115
One Day At A Time
Unreleased Rank: 160
Total Number of Voters: 1,054
Police Woman
Unreleased Rank: 937
Total Number of Voters: 274
Obviously, this suggests that people are interested in those shows, much more than Police Woman. Whether you feel those shows are "awful" or "abominations", that doesn't make them any less worthy of being released for the fans who want them than Police Woman does for the fans who want it. As I mentioned with my vote, I see the release of Police Woman as a positive in terms of the eventual release of a large portion of Sony's catalog. Why not welcome everything? If everything someone considered an abomination was kept from released, a majority of the dvds on the market wouldn't exist.
troopoleon8897 12-28-2005, 12:02 PM I wish I could choose all 3... I wanted to choose A because I would like to see alot of non-popular shows come out on dvd, I wanted to choose B because I would like both of those shows released for the fans and maybe so i can check them out (seen 3 FOL eps and never seen ODAAT)... but I chose C because there are alot of good shows that sony has released that I like that they are not continuing with and it does piss me off...ugh
bencasey 12-28-2005, 07:01 PM I basically took that tone because of how the poll is worded. Where on there is a choice that says, I'm a fan of the show and I'm glad it's being released ahead of stuff that has been more available to be seen? All of the choices posted are disparaging to Police Woman. So, I fight fire with fire.
Obviously, this suggests that people are interested in those shows, much more than Police Woman. Whether you feel those shows are "awful" or "abominations", that doesn't make them any less worthy of being released for the fans who want them than Police Woman does for the fans who want it. As I mentioned with my vote, I see the release of Police Woman as a positive in terms of the eventual release of a large portion of Sony's catalog. Why not welcome everything? If everything someone considered an abomination was kept from released, a majority of the dvds on the market wouldn't exist.
Who is doing the voting on that site? I know several people in my age group that buy a lot of DVDs and they don't bother voting in such polls. The voting numbers are more a reflection of the ages of people who bother with such things rather than their commercial potential.
vashti1999 12-28-2005, 08:20 PM I basically took that tone because of how the pole is worded. All of the choices posted are disparaging to Police Woman. So, I fight fire with fire.
Let's see. This is what I put for the first choice:
A)Whether or not I'm a fan, I see it as a good sign they're releasing lower profile shows. It says to me Sony plans on putting out a lot of their catalog and gives me hope that MY show will be released eventually.
Please point out to me what part of this is disparaging to Police Woman. I don't see any negativity directed towards that show. An implication that the show doesn't seem to have as much of an avid fan base as the other shows based on this site and tvshowsondvd.com? Yes, you can accuse me of that. "Disparaging" the show? I don't see where I did it. You were the one in this thread to call something an abomination, not me. And those statements weren't meant as a reflection of what I think of the show.
Where on there is a choice that says, I'm a fan of the show and I'm glad it's being released ahead of stuff that has been more available to be seen?
I say "more popular" or "higher profile," you say "stuff that has been more available to be seen." Same difference. It ain't that damn serious.
bencasey 12-29-2005, 02:26 PM I mean, Ann was a :::gasp::: divorced woman (as was Mrs. Garrett),
No big innovation there. Vivian Bagley, played by Vivian Vance, on The Lucy Show was a divorced woman and that was 15 years earlier. One Day was the beneficiary of some great time slots on CBS, always following Top 10 shows. Facts of Life was never a Top 20 show, barely cracking the Top 30 a few times. However, this came at a time when NBC's schedule was horrible and this was one of their few shows with any kind of an audience. As with other shows, such as Brady Bunch, longevity is no indicator of quality.
Once again I go back to my original complaint. Where is there a choice saying that - I am a fan of the show and I'm happy to see a release? The choice A is in effect saying, this show is marginal at best and the only redeaming aspect of it's release is that other marginal shows may also come out now.
vashti1999 12-29-2005, 03:38 PM Once again I go back to my original complaint. Where is there a choice saying that - I am a fan of the show and I'm happy to see a release? The choice A is in effect saying, this show is marginal at best and the only redeaming aspect of it's release is that other marginal shows may also come out now.
I don't disagree with this. I guess you're right, you can assume from this that I considered Police Woman as a "marginal" show, in terms of interest. When I saw that this and Walking Tall were greenlit by Sony, I figured there'd be a number of people angered that these were coming out when other shows weren't, so I thought I'd spark things by creating this poll. It really didn't have anything to do with Police Woman itself, it had to do with what I saw as a less popular show, whatever that less popular show turned out to be, being released before what I would consider more popular shows. That's why this choice: {I am a fan of the show and I'm happy to see a release}was not included. It really wasn't about Police Woman specifically at all. Okay, now that I've answered your question, answer mine, and answer honestly. Which would you consider more a case of someone "disparaging" a show? Any of the three choices I listed in this poll (which again weren't intended as a reflection of what I thought of Police Woman), or this quote: "Facts of Life or One Day at a Time. Please, those shows are awful. What will people pine for next, Hello Larry? Sony has tons of better shows than those 2 abominations."
I realize that Police Woman has its fans. There are a few who have posted here in this thread. I never denied that there will be people happy that it's coming out. But yes, I feel I can look at the respective show boards here on this forum and say that Facts of Life, One Day At A Time, etc. are more popular than Police Woman, and in my mind would probably be more welcomed dvd releases. Have you seen the activity on the Police Woman board? Not a lot going on and it's been around a least a year. You, a Police Woman fan!!, haven't even posted there.
You're on the Home Theater Forum too. Where's the thread from all of the Police Woman fans excited that this release is coming out? I don't see it. But I guarantee you'll see one both for Facts of Life and One Day At A Time when they're released. But hey, we have our own barometers. You say you know several people in your age group who don't bother with polls and such. If you can go by that, allow me to go by what I choose to go by.
And again, I welcomed this release, whether or not I thought of it as "marginal". Sounds like a lot more than you'd do in the same situation.
bencasey 12-29-2005, 09:27 PM I hope as much comes out as possible. The more the merrier. And the reason I haven't posted about Police Woman is that I'm not really a big fan, although it is something I would buy because there were great guest stars on the show. I didn't really watch that much prime time TV in the 70s as I was far more interested in sports than TV series. Not to mention not being home at night nearly as much as when I was a kid.
As for popularity, PW was #15 for the year in it's first season whereas Facts of Life never got higher than #24 for a year. But that's neither here nor there. Believe me, there are plenty of abominable shows that I like that I would want released too. I just didn't care for the tone of the poll and that's why I disparaged those 2 shows.
Or, if there was a choice that said, how is Police Woman coming out and still no Donna Reed Show or Father Knows Best, then I wouldn't have complained.:)
Mr. Television 12-29-2005, 09:43 PM The fact is FOL and ODAAT would be more popular around here because this is a sitcom board after all. Also both have been in syndication more than Police Woman even though its been probably about 10 years since ODAAT has been widely seen. I haven't seen Police Woman since it went off the air, so I'd buy it just to watch it again. It was a good show. Other than that I hope both FOL and ODAAT come to DVD. I was a fan of both of those shows too.
spunkygirl 12-29-2005, 10:45 PM I'm happy for fans of PW but where the hell is Who's the Boss? Season 2?? and like you guys mentioned FOL, and ODAAT. :cuss:
ontheroof 12-30-2005, 05:28 AM Even though Facts of Life and One Day at a Time have more votes, they suffer from the same dilemma (that Police Woman doesn't): they had weak first seasons, and fans prefer the later (or at least middle) seasons. I don't know a lot about Police Woman, but I've never heard that there's much of a difference season to season, so that makes a season 1 release of Police Woman less risky.
big bertha 01-01-2006, 10:54 PM Don't get me wrong-I am a fan of Police Woman but that being said, I feel FOL and ODAAT should have been released first. And what about the Johnny Cash Show-I thought that was coming out when the movie did but they just canceled it. What I am hopping mad about is Barney Miller and Who's the Boss. Why have they been dropped? They are both worthy. I have to give Fox credit-at least they revisited the Mary Tyler Moore Show and I believe from now on they will have moderate success with it. But maybe with Sony
now putting out shows like Police Woman and Walking Tall it will mean they will put out the rest of their catalog in time. And where's Maude?
Dean Winchester 01-02-2006, 03:53 PM okay, if anyone doesn't question Sony's release patterns, look no further that V.I.P., She Spies (which I actually wouldn't mind owning... but classic? no) and Grosse Pointe were announced before FOL and ODAAT, two long running hit series.
Police Woman at least is an oldie with a following, FOL and ODAAT both kicked VIP's butt on the poll list
Dean Winchester 01-02-2006, 03:54 PM Even though Facts of Life and One Day at a Time have more votes, they suffer from the same dilemma (that Police Woman doesn't): they had weak first seasons, and fans prefer the later (or at least middle) seasons. I don't know a lot about Police Woman, but I've never heard that there's much of a difference season to season, so that makes a season 1 release of Police Woman less risky.
FOL and ODAAT both have short first seasons as well. Both shows could be packaged with the second season if Sony really wanted to
seventies_sitcoms 01-03-2006, 02:55 AM Even though Facts of Life and One Day at a Time have more votes, they suffer from the same dilemma (that Police Woman doesn't): they had weak first seasons, and fans prefer the later (or at least middle) seasons. I don't know a lot about Police Woman, but I've never heard that there's much of a difference season to season, so that makes a season 1 release of Police Woman less risky.
Season 1 of PW is supposed to the best I've heard before they decided to "soften" the show.
Ronny G 01-05-2006, 05:38 AM I'm glad Policewoman is coming to dvd because it was never shown in reruns where I lived, and I was too young to watch it when it originally aired on network television, so this will be the only way I get to see it. I hope Sony reaches even further back into the time capsule and releases "Hazel" and "The Farmer's Daughter."
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