OBITUARIES
The Tampa Tribune
August 24, 1996
Estimated printed pages: 3

GLENN FRED CONSAGRA, 56, of Tampa died Wednesday at home. A lifelong resident of Tampa, he was a food service manager and Baptist. He is survived by a son, Brian of Clearwater; a daughter, Debbie of Land O' Lakes; his mother, Eddyth of Tampa; two brothers, Robert A. of Plant City and John-Allen Fertic of Augusta, Ga.; a sister, Dolores Deckard of Lutz; and three grandchildren. A.P. Boza Funeral Home, Town & Country Chapel.

Okay... someone please refresh my memory. Who is this guy?

Okay... someone please refresh my memory. Who is this guy?

Glenn Consagra pled guilty to a 1978 double homicide in which two of his best friends were gunned down on a spoilbank near Honeymoon Island in Clearwater, Florida. He was sentenced to two consecutive life terms in prison. He appeared on the third Unsolved Mysteries "special" (the last special Karl Malden hosted before Stack took over), and proclaimed his innocense. Basically, he claimed that he had been framed for the murders and that he pled guilty on the advice of his attorney in a last ditch attempt to save himself from the electric chair. There was a lot of evidence against Consagra, including a couple witnesses who said Consagra had a beef with one of the murder victims. There was at least one witness (a schizophrenic drug user) who claimed others were responsible for the double murder. There were also some facts about the manner in which the crimes were commited that made it seem unlikely that Consagra was the killer. Consagra was paroled in the early nineties, and died in 1996.

The case has been discussed at length on the board before, so you may try a search. The name has been mispelled so you may want to search under "Glen Consagra" instead of "Glenn". Or just type in "Consagra", and you'll find several messages about the case.

I thought he was sentenced to life without parole. Anyway, It's good to know he was released from prison. I always thought he was innocent.

Yeah I thought Consagra was innocent too. The DA on that case Doug Crow was a moron - I think he said something like "I couldn't fathom why Consagra would have pled guilty to a crime he didn't commit" or something. Well if you were told you had a "1 in 5" chance in winning a murder case and if you lost you would likely die in the electric chair, I would think most people would opt for any plea offered to them. I think Glen was caught between the old rock and a hard place.

Yeah I thought Consagra was innocent too.

While I believe that Consagra probably didn't pull the trigger, I think he may have been involved, or at a minimum, knew who was. Some of the witness statements against him, as well as the fact that he initially lied to the police are pretty damning facts.

Did the obituary even confrim that the man was the same Glen Consagra that was convicted of two murders? Also did it state what he died of? 56 is pretty young to die.

Did the obituary even confrim that the man was the same Glen Consagra that was convicted of two murders?

Not really. But considering the uncommon name, the Clearwater location, the grandkids (mentioned in the segment), the age he would have been at the time the UM segment was filmed, and the poster who claimed Consagra was in fact released from prison in 1991 or thereabouts and died in 1995 or 1996, I'm pretty sure that its him.

Was there an Update of the Glen Consagra case on Unsolved Mysteries or did Robert Stack ever mention it on a lifetime broadcast?

No

I don't believe Consagra wa sguilty but there are things about this case that bother me somewhat. First off, this guy was acting like a teenager (I'm 27 so I'm not an old person making this comment). The guy (to celebrate the birth of his grandchild) decides to pick up some friends and go to an island and get plastered. It just reminds me of a bunch of high school kids getting together for a party. Also, I agree with the prosecuter that Consagra knew exactly what he was pleading guilty to.

Some time ago, Kevin Poulson posted a very well thought out synopsis of what probably happened that night. It changed my life. I don't think Consagra was innocent, but he wasn't guilty either.

Some time ago, Kevin Poulson posted a very well thought out synopsis of what probably happened that night. It changed my life. I don't think Consagra was innocent, but he wasn't guilty either.

Do you think that Consagra was involved in the murders, but didn't pull the trigger himself?. Also, sorry about my ignorance, but I haven't heard about Kevin Poulson before. Who is he? and, What is his connection with Consagra's case?

I don't believe Consagra wa sguilty but there are things about this case that bother me somewhat. First off, this guy was acting like a teenager (I'm 27 so I'm not an old person making this comment). The guy (to celebrate the birth of his grandchild) decides to pick up some friends and go to an island and get plastered. It just reminds me of a bunch of high school kids getting together for a party. Also, I agree with the prosecuter that Consagra knew exactly what he was pleading guilty to.

in the segment, Glen said that he plead the way he did because the worse alternative was to be found guilty (which he was) and receive the death penalty. By pleading this way, he can hope that he would be set free one day (which he eventually was). So, he saved his own life.

As far as the other thing goes, I mentioned a little while ago that when anybody becomes a suspect, every single move they make, every single thing they say is going to be scrutinized to the fullest extent. And since Glen was the only person that could be confirmed that was on the spoil bank with the two friends, he is the natural suspect. So, yes, while a grandfather going on a cruise with 2 friends might seem a little bizarre to some, pretty much anything the guy does around the time is going to be scrutnized.

Well, I think people are overlooking that Consagra and the people he hung around with, alcohol and drug use and abuse were a big part of their lives. I mean Consagra and his friends were the type that drank pretty much all day every day so it was their natural state of mind to be intoxicated.

I can see why Consagra pled guilty, he pled guilty to 2 counts of 2nd degree murder so he received two life sentences that were run concurrently to each other, at that time there was no such thing as LWOP so you did become eligible for parole at some point. Consagra knew if he went to trial he would probably be convicted and if he were convicted at trial he stood a good chance of being sentenced to death.

So he pled guilty to the reduced charge of 2nd degree murder so he could become eligible for parole sooner than he would have with a 1st degree murder conviction and he also pled guilty to take the death penalty off the table. I thought the prosecutor Doug Crow came off as a moron, gee Doug, most people innocent or guilty if faced with execution would at least consider pleading guilty to reduced charges to spare their life if they think they stand a good chance of being convicted at trial. Innocent people have pled guilty before to avoid the death penalty, it has happened.

Back in 1978, a life sentence in Florida a majority of the time did not mean that, it was something judges did to look tough on crime but the parole board was rather lenient, as a matter of fact, in Florida, up until the mid 1990's when their parole system was dramatically overhauled it was fairly common for lifers to be paroled, usually on their first or 2nd try.

Parole was abolished in Florida, for 2nd degree murder, if the person was sentenced to life for all crimes committed in 1983 or later. Parole for 1st degree murder was abolished for all crimes committed in 1995 or later. Parole for Capital sexual battery which is molestation of a child under 12 was also abolished for crimes committed in 1995 or later.

In Florida, parole was very common before the mid 1990's as I mentioned, however it especially picked up steam from the late 1980's until the mid 1990's because of severe overcrowding there was mass paroles that occured regularly. Consagra served 13 years of a life sentence for a double homicide, not bad.

However up until the mid 1990's it was fairly easy for lifers to get paroled in Florida, much easier than it would be now where only the cream of the cream of the cream of the crop get paroled that are lifers. Since people that were sentenced to life for first degree murders committed on or before September 30th, 1995 are eligible or 2nd degree murder committed on or before September 30th, 1983 are eligible, soon the number of people doing LWOP will eclipse those who are life with parole eligibilty.

What is also strange is that the segment did not present any picture of the 2 victims Freddie and Mary Lou, that is very strange. I also find this "old" thread where Consagra's niece and sister posted as vixie328 and rosed624 respectively:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=149018&highlight=glenn+consagra

Do you think that Consagra was involved in the murders, but didn't pull the trigger himself?. Also, sorry about my ignorance, but I haven't heard about Kevin Poulson before. Who is he? and, What is his connection with Consagra's case?

Mr O'Reilly,

I am Kevin Poulsen! (alright not really) but I am "DarkDante" which is a pseudonym Poulsen used back in the 80s when he was a rather notorious hacker who got himself into trouble by figuring out how to hack into Arpanet and obtain secret government documents regarding the United States investigation into former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. In addition to acquiring top secret information on Marcos, Poulsen also used his superior computer skills to rig a radio call in contest netting himself a Porsche and also managed to hack into a local high school's computer changing all of his friends' grades.

Poulsen was featured on "Unsolved Mysteries" and was eventually captured as a result of the show. He served 51 months in prison and upon his release went straight using his superior computer skills in recent years to track down and identify registered sex offenders using MySpace to solicit sex from children.

When I registered for the "Sitcoms Online" board I used the alias "DarkDante" as its one of my favorite segments on the show. I also awhile back posted a lengthy analysis of the Consagra case which is what Justin is referring to here...:lol:

Mr O'Reilly,

I am Kevin Poulsen! (alright not really) but I am "DarkDante" which is a pseudonym Poulsen used back in the 80s when he was a rather notorious hacker who got himself into trouble by figuring out how to hack into Arpanet and obtain secret government documents regarding the United States investigation into former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. In addition to acquiring top secret information on Marcos, Poulsen also used his superior computer skills to rig a radio call in contest netting himself a Porsche and also managed to hack into a local high school's computer changing all of his friends' grades.

Poulsen was featured on "Unsolved Mysteries" and was eventually captured as a result of the show. He served 51 months in prison and upon his release went straight using his superior computer skills in recent years to track down and identify registered sex offenders using MySpace to solicit sex from children.

When I registered for the "Sitcoms Online" board I used the alias "DarkDante" as its one of my favorite segments on the show. I also awhile back posted a lengthy analysis of the Consagra case which is what Justin is referring to here...:lol:

Thank you DD, I really didn't know that DarkDante's real name is Kevin Poulsen. Thanks again!

What is also strange is that the segment did not present any picture of the 2 victims Freddie and Mary Lou, that is very strange. I also find this "old" thread where Consagra's niece and sister posted as vixie328 and rosed624 respectively:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=149018&highlight=glenn+consagra

Yes, I've corresponded with members of Consagra's family.

I have also made a web page about the case in an effort to discover more detailed information:

http://www.freewebs.com/umupdates/

Surprisingly, I haven't responded to this thread yet... My name is Rebecca. I'm Glenn's great neice.

First off, Hi Justin.

george ramos, Yes. It is the same Glenn Consagra.

kadrmas15, Unless you knew my uncle persoanlly, please don't make assumptions about his life.

phillipscurve, Thank you. If it wasn't for you mentioning my name in this thread, I wouldn't have found it. My mother and I... His neice and great neice.

I know this is the internet and basically an impossibility, but I really, really wish that people wouldn't post things about a man who cannot defend himself. I read this thread and I cried. Glenn Consagra had a family... While he may not be on this earth to read this, his family is. Have some respect, please.

Surprisingly, I haven't responded to this thread yet... My name is Rebecca. I'm Glenn's great neice.

First off, Hi Justin.

george ramos, Yes. It is the same Glenn Consagra.

kadrmas15, Unless you knew my uncle persoanlly, please don't make assumptions about his life.

phillipscurve, Thank you. If it wasn't for you mentioning my name in this thread, I wouldn't have found it. My mother and I... His neice and great neice.

I know this is the internet and basically an impossibility, but I really, really wish that people wouldn't post things about a man who cannot defend himself. I read this thread and I cried. Glenn Consagra had a family... While he may not be on this earth to read this, his family is. Have some respect, please.

Rebecca,

Hi, this is Justin. We have talked before. While I can't speak for everyone here, I don't think anyone is intentionally disrespecting Glenn or his memory. This board is devoted to the Unsolved Mysteries television program and the cases profiled on it. A lot of people here have seen these stories and we all have opinions and theories that we like to kick around with other fans of the show. We are not here to insult or disrespect anyone. Since Glenn's case was profiled on UM, the topic does come up from time to time and people do express their opinions with regard to their belief in his guilt or innocence. But that happens with a lot of cases, and the discussions are usually benign. Like I said, I can't speak for everyone, but I like to think that most of the posters here have a respect for crime victims and the victim's families whatever their involvement may be.

On a more personal note, I do hope that you and your mother are doing well. I am thankful that you took the time to share with me, a stranger, the information that you did. It really did help give me some closure.

Justin

Rebecca,

Hi, this is Justin. We have talked before. While I can't speak for everyone here, I don't think anyone is intentionally disrespecting Glenn or his memory. This board is devoted to the Unsolved Mysteries television program and the cases profiled on it. A lot of people here have seen these stories and we all have opinions and theories that we like to kick around with other fans of the show. We are not here to insult or disrespect anyone. Since Glenn's case was profiled on UM, the topic does come up from time to time and people do express their opinions with regard to their belief in his guilt or innocence. But that happens with a lot of cases, and the discussions are usually benign. Like I said, I can't speak for everyone, but I like to think that most of the posters here have a respect for crime victims and the victim's families whatever their involvement may be.

On a more personal note, I do hope that you and your mother are doing well. I am thankful that you took the time to share with me, a stranger, the information that you did. It really did help give me some closure.

Justin

Justin basically said what I wanted to say here but as I said to another family member of someone who was profiled on UM earlier this year. This is a fansite for UM the television show - its not a tribute site for anyone who has been profiled on the show. While I don't think anyone here would go out of their way to be nasty, any family member or friend of someone profiled on the show coming on these forums as a guest should know right off the bat what we do on these forums is discuss the cases and make conjecture about various aspects of the cases. Its what we've been doing since day one and will probably continue to do until the forums cease to exist.

As for your uncle specifically I always thought he was innocent right from the start. If you read back on some of the postings you'll find that in general Justin and myself are two of your late uncle's biggest advocates on these forums and feel he got a bum rap.

All The Best.

DD

Justin,
How ya doin love? We're not doing too bad. You know how life is. I was just talking about my Uncle to a friend of mine online and well... You know me. I read something kind of interesting on another site about Uncle Sugie and I thought you guys might not mind the read...

Dante,
Thank you. :)


http://www.securtest.com/forensichypnosis.htm

Steven C. Millwee, CPP

Forensic Hypnosis, Homicide,

Police and Security Expert


One of Steve’s cases was featured on Unsolved Mysteries titled “Final Appeal.” Glenn Consagra had been convicted of the 1978 brutal double murders of his best friends on Honeymoon Island in Clearwater. Sentenced to two consecutive life terms, he enlisted Millwee to take on his final appeal of innocence. Millwee polygraphed and hypnotized Consagra leading to compelling evidence that the wrong man had been convicted and pressured into a plea to save himself from Florida’s infamous electric chair. Millwee doggedly pursed the old case in the mid 80’s. He obtained a confession from one of the killers who fingered two other murders clearing Consagra as their patsy. Consagra and Millwee appeared on Unsolved Mysteries in the last episode hosted by the late Karl Malden. Consagra was released from prison in the early 90’s and subsequently died in 1996.

Did Karl Malden say in his narration that Glenn and his friends were going to Honeymoon Island in 1978 to celebrate the birth of his grandson or was that mistake since Vixie328 is female?

Did Karl Malden say in his narration that Glenn and his friends were going to Honeymoon Island in 1978 to celebrate the birth of his grandson or was that mistake since Vixie328 is female?

Vixie is not his granddaughter.

He had three grandchildren according to the obituary I found. It's the first post in this thread.

Vixie - Thanks for posting that, hun. I had found it awhile back, actually. It's the same PI who was interviewed in the segment. I sent him a couple emails with questions about the case but never got a response. I used to be a PI and I can tell you that client confidentiality is a big thing, so I figured that he didn't feel comfortable discussing it.

Robbie,
I live up in Delaware and I'm his great-neice... There's always been confusion up here about who's birth he went out for... I was born a few weeks prior to what happened...

Justin,
Miss talking with you. A friend of mine recently had a family member die and it's been reminding me a lot about Uncle Sugie... I miss him tons. Thanks for always sticking up for him (and me). :)

Justin... hunny... your page is gone... I need the pic of Uncle Sugie again. Same email addy babe. vixen328@comcast.net

xoxox. Hope everything is going well. Miss talking to you.
Luvz,
Beck

Justin... hunny... your page is gone... I need the pic of Uncle Sugie again. Same email addy babe. vixen328@comcast.net

xoxox. Hope everything is going well. Miss talking to you.
Luvz,
Beck


***new email*** rdeem328@gmail.com xoxox