sugar ray suggested we start an argument about disc prices, so here we go

two seperate catagories

100 or less disc deals, and large quantity deals

please show in any deal you bring to our attention, what the actual cost is

example, with shipping and sales tax--- bottom line only to make a fair comparison

and to avoid a fruitless arguement about if generics really work or not

how about we limit the discussion to name brand and decent quality media

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heres my first first shot

you can walk into office depot and purchase a 100 pack of dvd-r for $ 30 plus local taxes

the 8x dvd-r with office depot brand is a media code go5, ritek, which is top shelf media

if you use the advantage club card

you can get 10% back at the end of the quarter

so effective price is $ 27 plus tax for 100 discs

they usualy have no limit on how many you get either

ok so no o depot in your area??

they have the same deal online, but you need to purchase $ 50 or more to get free delivery

they deliver to my house next day from my order

thanks Loren!

cheapest ive seen up here in O'Canada was recently at Wallyworld. they had an anniversary sale and one of the sale items were Memorex discs. your choice + or - R

spindle of 75 for $25.95 + sales tax.

media code nothing special = CMC MAG. AE1

seems like everytime i check a memorex disc it has a different media code! you just never know what your going to get with memorex who ouviosuly does NOT brand their own media. mind you, who does now adays? i know sony doesn't. i guess there are only a few plants under the sun that actualy brand media and distribute to the masses with various packaging and labeling.

media is like everything else. you get what you pay for. go cheap and you will suffer

only media i had trouble with was a 200 pack of Sansui discs from Future shop. $60 bucks for a box of 200. cheap or what? ill say! once i opened the box you could see Glue bubbles on each and every silver top UGLY-ass disc. tried 4 discs and ALL 4 failed! i returned it for a refund and actualy used a black marker to CIRCLE the glue bubbles that were visible beneth the disc's surface. they had no arguments and returned my money $$$$$

finding the perfect media can be like searching for the holy grail when you burn as much as we do

From what I have read, Taiyo-Yuden Made In Japan DVD-Rs are among the best. I order them from SuperMediaStore in spindles of 100. Sometimes they have free shipping, so they wind up costing about 30 cents each.

http://supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles.html

John

Maxell spindle of 100 is going for 32.99 cdn. this week at Future Shop for any Canadians out there.

I dont know much about media quality I usually just try to stick with a good name. I see office max has 100 count HP on sale for 29.99. Is HP a good disc to buy? Anyone know before I go get them?

Maxell spindle of 100 is going for 32.99 cdn. this week at Future Shop for any Canadians out there.


thats a killer deal

maxell dvd-r are made by ritek, go5 media code

same as o depot 8x

memorex 8x but not 16x

and usualy philips 8x


this is top shelf media and a great price

I dont know much about media quality I usually just try to stick with a good name. I see office max has 100 count HP on sale for 29.99. Is HP a good disc to buy? Anyone know before I go get them?


Normally HP is not a good brand. I have not had good burns with them. Everytime I have bought them they check as CMC... although the memorex I sometimes buy checks the same most of the time, always work good for me.

ok, good. I'll be stocking up for sure then =o)

I dont know much about media quality I usually just try to stick with a good name. I see office max has 100 count HP on sale for 29.99. Is HP a good disc to buy? Anyone know before I go get them?


For those wanting to find out more about media type etc ...

www.nomorecoasters.com

only media i had trouble with was a 200 pack of Sansui discs from Future shop. $60 bucks for a box of 200. cheap or what? ill say! once i opened the box you could see Glue bubbles on each and every silver top UGLY-ass disc. tried 4 discs and ALL 4 failed! i returned it for a refund and actualy used a black marker to CIRCLE the glue bubbles that were visible beneth the disc's surface. they had no arguments and returned my money $$$$$



I fell for that deal also last spring. What a nightmare! .... I had to send replacements to so many people, it was insane.

From what I have read, Taiyo-Yuden Made In Japan DVD-Rs are among the best. I order them from SuperMediaStore in spindles of 100. Sometimes they have free shipping, so they wind up costing about 30 cents each.

http://supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles.html

John

taiyo yuden is by almost every article i have read

the top brand there is

i use a lot of it myself


but, the odds of this being actualy ty are very slim in this case

there are tons of counterfiet generics out there that claim to be ty

and even have a fake media code

i even got some from shop4tech and i returned it at their cost

and they admitted it

and said it was an oversight

yet they still are selling the same thing now



do a google search for ty fake codes

and there will be a metric ton of articles about it

these things come in no name packages


an easy way for me to spot a fake is the dye layer on a real ty is deep and all the way out to the edge

the generic fakes are much thinner, and they arent spread evenly

useing ty is a great idea

about the best way to get ty at a decent price is to either by like 4000 at a time in actual ty packageing

or look at your local best buy or staples for the fugi dvd-r 8x, that are made in japan

not made in taiwan, those are not ty, only the japans are

best buy and staples runs these on sale every few weeks

For those wanting to find out more about media type etc ...

www.nomorecoasters.com


this web site is a nice try

but he has the exact same media in three different classes

and he doesnt seperate 4x 8 x and 16 x at all

or even like the fugi where the 8x minis r from japan is a top quauity

and the taiwan is numerous different lesser quality maunfactures


ao your self a favor

take an hour sometime and search google and look at 20 sites that rate things

you will see the same things at the top of almost every poll or forum

i use circuit city tdk's 5.99 a 25 pack

I have been going to Best Buy recently on Sundays, they usually have good deals like Sony or Fujifilm DVD-R/+R for $30-40 per 100 spindle. The only really bad deal I had was with some Dysan media I bought off someone from another forum. I had used it for about 200 discs with no problem, then one batch of about 50+ were all crap, so now I stick to either Taiyo Yudens, Riteks, or the branded media from Best Buy.

its very interesting to me. the development of blank media. i betcha 98% of consumers that buy blank media have no idea regarding quality, class etc....
most look no further then grabbing the small amount they need off the shelf for their computer.

good topic yoi guys!

Funny how Walmart is supposed to be so cheap on things! There cheapest around here is Imation Discs 30 Pack for $15 Wow what a Rollback that is! This week at Staples they Have 50 Packs of HP for $15

RE: www.nomorecoasters.com

this web site is a nice try
but he has the exact same media in three different classes
and he doesnt seperate 4x 8 x and 16 x at all
or even like the fugi where the 8x minis r from japan is a top quauity
and the taiwan is numerous different lesser quality maunfactures


That's not correct.

Fuji, your example, is a name brand. Fuji is known to use any number of discs from various makers, including MKM, TY, PRODISC, FUJIFILM and others. Country of origin is little more than a hint of what's inside.

There is also nothing really different between media speeds, aside from the speed. For all intents and purposes, a 2x MCC discs is the same quality as a 16x MCC disc. The chemical composition of the media is the same (AZO dye), only the balance rating is different.

Maxell is another brand name mentioned in the above posts. The good Maxell is MXL or MAXELL media from Japan. The not so great media is the RITEK stuff from Taiwan. Maxell is both a brand name and a manufacturer.

Purchase media because of the manufacturer. Not brand name. Brand name is meaningless. Learn about MEDIA ID CODES and try to learn some tips on how to spot good discs (like the "Japan" rule, among others).

RE: www.nomorecoasters.com



That's not correct.

Fuji, your example, is a name brand. Fuji is known to use any number of discs from various makers, including MKM, TY, PRODISC, FUJIFILM and others. Country of origin is little more than a hint of what's inside.

There is also nothing really different between media speeds, aside from the speed. For all intents and purposes, a 2x MCC discs is the same quality as a 16x MCC disc. The chemical composition of the media is the same (AZO dye), only the balance rating is different.

Maxell is another brand name mentioned in the above posts. The good Maxell is MXL or MAXELL media from Japan. The not so great media is the RITEK stuff from Taiwan. Maxell is both a brand name and a manufacturer.

Purchase media because of the manufacturer. Not brand name. Brand name is meaningless. Learn about MEDIA ID CODES and try to learn some tips on how to spot good discs (like the "Japan" rule, among others).


fuji--where im from, midwest, fuji from japan at best buy is always ty made, and great stuff, and very true, you must look at the code to determine the quality for sure

at my best buys, they may have 10 taiwan made cane boxes for every fuji, so you need to do some looking

speed only matters so that people will not assume that since the memorex 8x is a good disc, then of course the 16x must be as well

this isnt realy the case, as the 16x is not anywhere near the realiable quality of the 8x marketed by memorex and made by ritek

i have maybe 1 or 2 dud discs per hundred from 8x memorex, 8x maxell, 8x office depot, or 8x go5 ritek branded media, but i have tried 16x memorex and have had dud after dud, and those that did burn had compatability problems as well


i was raly taught a lesson about media about 6 months ago, i sent a 20 disc set to a person and they couldnt make it play, it was a i dream of jeannie, top quality set, a real dandy, so the eprson was very nice about it, he asked if i wouldnt burn another set of discs and he would supply the blanks, so he returned the first set and 20 blanks. they were 8x taiyo yudens

so i ran them and tested them in my free, very expensive--but crappy mitsubishi player thats in the bedroon. the maxell discs wouldnt play in the player, thats not uncommon as its so picky.,., but the ty discs played just nice. i returned the ty set to my dude,ane they palyed and he was delighted with the set

taiyo yudens were run on the same equipment as i always run on, the same burn speed, etc

all the same

what a difference they made, i use about 50% tys now

i have not had one compatability complaint with a ty made set since, but had the normal one here and there with the verbatiums or the riteks

im 100% convinced, the taiyo yudens are better than the rest

just look out for counterfiets, they are all over

RiData 8 x DVD - R's GO 5's are the only disc i use.
I get them for 19.99 per 50 cake box here in Canada at a place called Computer Central in Mississauga , Ontario.
Bad experience was with a brand called Legacy , stay away from these if you ever find them
Dougi