Still Moonlighting?

With Medium hot, Caron is also currently mulling a Moonlighting feature film -- a la Dukes of Hazzard and next year's Miami Vice.

"I get asked about it every three weeks. For a long time, I couldn't imagine doing it without Bruce (Willis) and Cybill (Shepherd)."

But now, he adds, "I have the perfect people in mind, but I don't know if they'd be interested ... I have no idea what it'd be about, but I do think there are a couple of actors who would get the spirit of the show."

He declines to name names. "Why set myself up for ridicule and disappointment?"

He says he didn't speak to Shepherd for "a long time," until the first DVD set of the show was recently produced and they ended up doing the commentaries together.

"Bruce and I have always been really close. That's a very solid friendship. (When we were doing Moonlighting) Cybill had been a movie star before, but Bruce had never been there before and I certainly hadn't. We were two people completely making it up as we went along."


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Who would you guys like to see recast as David and Maddie???

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They haven't been born yet!

I can't even think of 2 young actors to play their roles. I am not crazy about any of the young actors out there. Only Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz are the only young actors i like( but not for Moonlighting). I would love a happy ending for our couple but i always imagine it being Bruce and Cybill.

i really can't think of anyone, but maybe he's thinking of someone who is fairly unknown like bruce willis was.

sometimes glenn caron's ideas are wonderful and sometimes they are less than wonderful. so... it's possible this could turn out to be exciting...let me change that, i really don't think so!

I can't see anybody doing it but the original cast. I'm sorry. It just wouldn't be the same.

No offense but I'm a little tired of everything having to be changed to fit one demographic. A movie can be aimed at adults. Look at the classic films, they didn't cater just to the youth market. No one would have thought of messing with "Casablanca" or "The African Queen" just to make sure kids on vacation from school were going to be interested. Actors back then were often quite a bit older than they are today. What ought to matter is how well one plays the role and that's it. Although they change James Bond every few years, that's different...

Anyone who's seen the show before and liked it, has to do so because of the original actors. To use anybody else makes it, for me, an entirely different story and disconnects me from enjoying it. I'm sorry. I think there are some pretty good young actors, but these roles are for me completely identified with the people who started them.

I am not sure younger fans who have never seen the syndication runs would be interested in the story. They simply do not know the context. The older fans would not be as interested in a different cast. Therefore we wouldn't be increasing the audience, just switching one crowd for another, and perhaps only alienating the other half.

The first audience of the show--Baby Boomers/"Me Generation" and Generation X people--are the ones who know what it is and why it's great. I'd rather have it not done than not done right.

it will bomb.
i completely agree with neon.

Me too!

Glenn has always been into new things. Hiring an actor no one knew, the fourth wall, etc etc.

Why not take a shot and take the original cast! Shure there can be younger actors in it, but the main parts should go to the people who originally played it. He's going to have an audience, look at all the people who bought the DVDs, got to see the show when it started, the new generation (a.k.a. me ;) ) born when the show started and liked it even in the year 2000!!

Those people won't walk away from it, it can't get bad for them (I think). It can, if another cast starts to play Maddie and David and no one who ever saw ML in the first place will get what the story is about.

Cybill and Bruce are the MAGIC of Moonlighting, THEY brought the show to live like no one else could! (and will for my part)

You want a good ending for the show? Putting another cast in their seat is NOT a good ending...

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I agree with everything that's been said. They might be able to get two young actors to do a good romantic comedy, but it wouldn't be Moonlighting! I have a terrible feeling that Glenn knows BW isn't interested in doing a Moonlighting movie and he also sees a lot of other shows being re-cast for the big screen, so it's tempting him to say maybe...

there is a "formula" out there about re-makes.
the formula is this....you take a big succesful tv show that everyone remembers fondly. then you spend tons of money on tv or big screen remake on it. you get new fans who learn about the old show, and they do not have the desire to learn and appreciate that old show. then the movie fades away into nothingness because even new fans can't keep it alive for more than two weeks or a month, and it dies a quickly forgotten death. and takes a huge amount of older fans (like us) with it over the disgust the new version gave us.
recent example: the dukes of hazzard. how long was it big in theatres? a week? it's forgotten about now, how much business did it drum up for the old tv show, much less the new movie? same as the beverly hillbillies.
all that money they spend on the remake, they could use that to settle the disputes about the music copyrights for the DVD releases. that's the ONLY favour they could do for us, new and old fans.

Has there been a re-make that has been as good as or better than the original? I can't think of any. To do a re-make requires no imagination except to re-cast the roles. If the original movie/TV show was great, NO ACTORS can replace the original cast because that particular cast was what made it great to begin with. Most re-makes are painful to watch.

Reunion shows can be fun, usually not as much for the fans but for the cast members to get together again IMO. Reunion shows can also tie up any lose ends that happened during the original event.

Me too!



You want a good ending for the show? Putting another cast in their seat is NOT a good ending...

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Steph - great picture!! I've never seen that before. Where's it from and do you have the full sized image?

Oh, and I agree with everything everyones has said. If they aren't going to get the original actors back it's surely going to be a waste of time and I'd rather they didn't bother.

Love Gem

That is a great pic - it looks like it was from The Golden Globes when Cy wore the orange dress (later worn in When Girls Collide). I love the fact that they both won Golden Globes that night. You can't have ham without leggs.:lol:

Oh Steph -- that would make a great background pic. Hint, hint.:D

What an awful idea, I would hate a remake of Moonlighting with any actors! No one could recreate that wonderful chemistry and why would anyone want to! Even the Dukes of Hazzard film wasn't as good as the series, and the series was no patch on ML.

Yuck. Not sure who he would aim this at - ML fans would hate it, and most peeps that are young enough to want to go and see a film like that don't remember the original!

Ick.

Mul

Right again! No re-make is ever as good as the original. The sad part is that Hollywood doesn't seem to want to feature "over 35" characters or appeal to an "over 35" demographic as an audience. They'd rather cast a new, younger David and Maddie, which won't appeal to anyone. It's a shame.

Don't do it Glen

Steph - great picture!! I've never seen that before. Where's it from and do you have the full sized image?

Oh, and I agree with everything everyones has said. If they aren't going to get the original actors back it's surely going to be a waste of time and I'd rather they didn't bother.

Love Gem

don't have it full sized...it's from the wired image site... You have to ask someone who's a member there ;)

Never mind, thanks anyway Steph.

Love Gem

:mad: I can't believe they're even considering making a Moonlighting movie without Cybill and Bruce. It just wouldn't be the same. I wouldnt go and see it anyway.

It would be painful...Cybill and Bruce ARE Maddie and David.

Hi its laura a again ,sorry ive not been on the forum for a liitle while , been busy with the kids and all you know . Anyway ive just read this thread and i cant believe Glenn would even play with the idea of doing a moonlighting remake without Cybil and Bruce. Why cant he do it so its based on what their characters would be doing now and and have them as david and maddie just as it should be . Im sure there are loads of story lines that Glen could use for bruce and Cybil if only Bruce would swallow his pride and remember the true fans that got him where he is today. Surely what ever happened between himself and Cybil couldnt be that bad as to hold a grudge for 15 YEARS.Besides why do a film that goes over old ground , it needs to take over where it left off.Glenn if you are reading this if you cant do it with Bruce and Cybil then dont do it at all .

Im sure there are loads of story lines that Glen could use for bruce and Cybil if only Bruce would swallow his pride and remember the true fans that got him where he is today. Surely what ever happened between himself and Cybil couldnt be that bad as to hold a grudge for 15 YEARS.Besides why do a film that goes over old ground , it needs to take over where it left off.Glenn if you are reading this if you cant do it with Bruce and Cybil then dont do it at all .

I agree that it shouldn't be done, it would be hideous. But I don't think the reason Bruce doesn't want to do a remake is because he has forgotten where he came from etc, he's always seemed keen to 'big up' moonlighting and he was involved in the commentaries for Seasons 1 and 2. I also wouldn't say he's forgotten moonlighting fans, as there are lots of ML fans on his website! Not sure there's an ongoing feud either really, its probably more to do with people having moved on as Moonlighting did finish 16 years ago. I feel rather old now... ;)

Mul

I agree with you guys. I cannot imagine anyone else playing Maddie and David. I would however love to see a new one with Cybil and Bruce. I don't care if they have aged, if the chemistry is still there and it brought a good ending to the story, it would be GREAT. It'd be better than great, it would be great, great;) I don't think I would want it to pick up 16 years later with the 2 of them just getting together though. Think that would be kind of sad that they would have wasted all those years apart. I think it would be nice if it could be worked out that they had been together all along and the audience could see how they ended up together. Just my thoughts:)

I've been a Moonlighting fan from the beginning and as much as I'd love to see something done to give the show the proper closure it deserves, this idea is horrible.

Bruce and Cybill are David and Maddie. No one else is going to step into those roles.

Glenn needs to come up with a great storyline for a movie and then go to Bruce with it.

Glenn needs to come up with a great storyline for a movie and then go to Bruce with it.

Love that idea!

I agree. Unless Glen goes to Bruce and Cybill and they both agree, it should never ever happen. I can't imagine Bruce will want to do anything of course, so getting anyone else to play David or Maddie would "be worse than wrong, it would be telly-cide.." ;)

Mul

I agree. Unless Glen goes to Bruce and Cybill and they both agree, it should never ever happen. I can't imagine Bruce will want to do anything of course, so getting anyone else to play David or Maddie would "be worse than wrong, it would be telly-cide.." ;)

Mul
telly-cide is a great word

personally I think it would be telly-cide to attempt it at all

Well quite. Even though I still hate the way ML ended, I can't imagine that seeing Bruce and Cybill as they are now in some TV movie will make me feel better about it all....

To be honest, I would prefer Bruce and Cybill to be interviewed together for the Season 3 DVDs, plus doing commentaries together for 'I am curious...Maddie' and 'To heiress human'. I would love to see how they interacted 20 years down the line, and see how they would react to watching themselves together. Now that would be the best thing Glen could do for the fans - get them together for an interview and commentaries.

Mul

That would be great! But I'm not too hopeful since they didn't do any commentary together for Seasons 1 & 2. If they weren't comfortable doing that, I can't see them doing it together for Season 3 when things got more...intense between Maddie and David (and Bruce and Cybill. ;))

I don't think it's very likely either, CyBr, but it would be my ideal situation!! ;) I can dream...

I'm not even assuming that seasons 3, 4 and 5 will come out.... :(
I hope they will, but as Chuck Berry said, 'you never can tell'. :crazy:

Mul

Even though I loved the commentaries by BW and CY, I still would buy the DVDs for season 3 (and 4 and 5) even if they didn't do them. I found the various directors/writers and Glenn very insightful and enjoyed every second of all the commentaries.

AND even if there were no commentaries (which I do not think will happen), I would buy every DVD set (and I would buy at least 2 copies) that would be released.

I do think that season 3 will be released. How could they not want Atomic Shakespeare and many others shown in superb clarity!? I think Glenn will definitely do it.

Well quite. Even though I still hate the way ML ended, I can't imagine that seeing Bruce and Cybill as they are now in some TV movie will make me feel better about it all....

To be honest, I would prefer Bruce and Cybill to be interviewed together for the Season 3 DVDs, plus doing commentaries together for 'I am curious...Maddie' and 'To heiress human'. I would love to see how they interacted 20 years down the line, and see how they would react to watching themselves together. Now that would be the best thing Glen could do for the fans - get them together for an interview and commentaries.

Mul


Ooh LOVE THAT IDEA!!!

I think it's like this, we don't want a Moonlighting Reunion, we want Cybill and Bruce on screen together again!

I'd love to hear those commentaries, and I want a camera there to see them talking about the episodes TOGETHER! :D Yeah, that would be a dream coming true:cool:

I think it's like this, we don't want a Moonlighting Reunion, we want Cybill and Bruce on screen together again!



Sorry, but I completely disagree. I want a Moonlighting reunion (movie) with Bruce and Cybill.

If they did commentaries together, that would be great but I believe most fans want to see Bruce and Cybill as David and Maddie again.

Fans fell in love with the story of David and Maddie not the story of Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd.

The story of David and Maddie was severly tarnished by the ill-conceived series finale. Having Bruce and Cybill do commentaries together won't change the horrible way David and Maddie's story was handled in Moonlighting's final season.

The only thing that can change what happened is a movie that gives fans and David and Maddie what they deserve- a happy ending.

Hi Colin72! :wave:

The main problem I have with the idea of a reunion movie is that it wouldn't be the same and I know most people would be massively disappointed. I honestly don't think the idea of David and Maddie in their 50s, still arguing would make a good movie. If a movie had been made within a few years of it ending, it might have worked. It's too late baby, as Carole King once said. I know lots of people disagree with me tho. :D

I really really hate the way Moonlighting ended in 1989, but the fact is, it did end, and seeing the way it was headed at the end of Season 5, I'm pretty glad it didn't drag on for another few series. Nothing can change the fact that it ended and ended badly. Whilst I'd love to see Bruce and Cybill work together again in pretty much anything else, I'd hate to see them in a movie and for it to be even worse than Lunar Eclipse was. The fans were let down enough then!

Yes, fans did fall in love with Maddie and David, not Cybill and Bruce, but Maddie and David haven't existed as characters since 1989 (just in our heads and on this board!), but Cybill and Bruce continue to be actors and singers/musicians and have moved on and done new things.

Mul

Mul, you couldn't have said it better.

I've spoken to a lot of people who don't want a reunion because of that. And to be really hounest, I kinda agree with them. Hey, even I said there should be a Moonlighting Reunion, but I have the feeling it ain't gonna happen with Cybill and Bruce.

A new movie wouldn't make a better ending, it's been too long and it definetely wouldn't make a better ending with new and younger actors, so what I meant was, we want Cybill and Bruce again, THE David and Maddie!! Even you, Colin, don't want to see Maddie and David if they where played by other people, unless you really did fall in love with the story of Maddie and David ONLY.

i stopped watching moonlighting after 'to heiress human'. what i think would be fun is to have it so that that's where it ended the first time around, so there isn't a lot of clutter, and then have a movie pick up the story in today's time.
with a really good mystery, jokes, and the 'magic' of the hollywood lighting department, which can make Anyone look surprisingly good, this could be a unique type of movie. i really see a lot of formula movies being made, and having someone like glenn caron think out of the box, and make a really different movie could actually be pretty exciting.
and it might be just different enough to make some money and win some awards. i think there would be the possbility of a broad audience appeal, if the writng is done very, very well, and there's at least one goofy chase.
a light sardonic tone would help i think and the charactors having fun.

I don't understand why some people seem to think that because Bruce and Cybill are in their 50's now, they can't portray David and Maddie. That makes no sense to me. It's not as though they are 70 years-old and using canes to get around. Harrison Ford is 63 and is going to be in Indiana Jones 4, but Bruce and Cybill are too old for a romantic detective movie? The fact that the actors are older would be the least of Glenn's worries (assuming they would do it). As Glenn has mentioned in various interviews, he doesn't have an idea for a story. If he had an idea he has said would go to Bruce and say you have to do this.

MulberryGal: "Nothing can change the fact that it ended and ended badly."

A movie with an upbeat story and ending would obviously change the way David and Maddie's story ended. It wouldn't take away the bad epsiodes from seasons 4 and 5 but it would change the outcome.

Dutchie, I can't figure out where you are coming from. One time you say, "I think it's like this, we don't want a Moonlighting Reunion, we want Cybill and Bruce on screen together again!" But then you say, "Hey, even I said there should be a Moonlighting Reunion, but I have the feeling it ain't gonna happen with Cybill and Bruce." So, you don't a reunion and then you do want a reunion.

i don't want any type of reunion movie, series, or whatever without bruce and cybil. with them, i'm all for it.
like i suggested before, doing a show with burt and agnes as the owners of Bluemoon with dave and maddie as secondary characters, i could see it. and that's how i think it should be.

No, I want a reunion!! But I've heard Bruce say he doubts it's ever gonna happen and Glenn only wants it when he has a good idea for a script or younger actors. So, I DON'T want a reunion without Cybill and Bruce and I want CYBILL and BRUCE on screen together again even if it isn't in a movie kind of thing!!

get it?

I sometimes have a hard time explaining myself, sorry :rolleyes: