View Full Version : Re: Episode when Keith got drunk and slapped Thelma


sdb7373
10-04-2005, 12:51 PM
Ok the episode when Keith slapped Thelma because she kept telling him to stop acting crazy because he was drunk really made me mad because when he slapped her all Michael and JJ did was give him an angry look. They just stood there and did nothing. Thats not realistic. Sorry but I would think they would have slapped him back or did something to him for slapping their sister. They just looked at him with these angry looks but Thelma got him back in the bedroom when she slapped him back. Good for her. What kind of brothers are they to just stand there and do nothing? The writers should have written that better.

GARFIELDKOOL
10-04-2005, 02:24 PM
Ok the episode when Keith slapped Thelma because she kept telling him to stop acting crazy because he was drunk really made me mad because when he slapped her all Michael and JJ did was give him an angry look. They just stood there and did nothing. Thats not realistic. Sorry but I would think they would have slapped him back or did something to him for slapping their sister. They just looked at him with these angry looks but Thelma got him back in the bedroom when she slapped him back. Good for her. What kind of brothers are they to just stand there and do nothing? The writers should have written that better.

J.J. and Michael are punks! I would fu*cked Keith up if he did that to my sister! And he was an ass hole anyways!

Brieannas21
10-04-2005, 04:38 PM
YES JJ and Michael should have done something. But I think that if Kieth would have hit her again then they would have jumped in. Michael and JJ probably figured that Thelma is a strong woman and she could handle Kieth on her own. And plus that was between Thelma and Kieth.

TVFactFan
10-04-2005, 04:40 PM
YES JJ and Michael should have done something. But I think that if Kieth would have hit her again then they would have jumped in. Michael and JJ probably figured that Thelma is a strong woman and she could handle Kieth on her own. And plus that was between Thelma and Kieth.


Michael was about to get with Keith for YELLING at Thelma but did nothing when Keith SLAPPED Thelma?-LOL Strange

sdb7373
10-04-2005, 04:58 PM
YES JJ and Michael should have done something. But I think that if Kieth would have hit her again then they would have jumped in. Michael and JJ probably figured that Thelma is a strong woman and she could handle Kieth on her own. And plus that was between Thelma and Kieth.

Yeah it was between Keith and Thelma but when he starts using violence on their sister JJ and Michael should have kicked his ass. No man should hit on any woman for any reason.

Ireneparalegal
10-04-2005, 06:13 PM
J.J. and Michael are punks! I would fu*cked Keith up if he did that to my sister! And he was an ass hole anyways!
I hear that Kool. Right on my brother!!!! I know that when it comes to sisters/brothers, there are special ties that bind them, and knowing my late brother, he would have kicked some major a$$!!!! It doesn't make sense. It would have been a good idea to see the two brothers go after Keith somehow. Maybe they should have written it so that Keith slapped her when they were alone. The fact that it was done with them there makes no sense if they did nothing whatsoever. I agree with you Kool and those who believe this was totally unrealistic. As for that statement that this was between Keith and Thelma, NO WAY. WRONG. When it comes to anyone hitting anyone, regardless of their gender, it becomes everyone's business, that is, anyone who witnesses it. No man should ever hit a woman. EVER.

Too bad James wasn't around. Keith would have ended up DEAD MEAT!!!!!

Brieannas21
10-04-2005, 07:57 PM
Yeah it was between Keith and Thelma but when he starts using violence on their sister JJ and Michael should have kicked his ass. No man should hit on any woman for any reason.

I never said that it was ok that Keith hit Thelma, A man should never hit a woman no matter what she does. What I said was that it was between Keith and Thelma, that was their business and their fight. Now if Keith would have went back into the room and hit Thelma again then I think that Michael and JJ would have stepped in.

But Thelma was a strong woman and she could handle her own and as you could see in the end she did. Just like I tell my husband, I might be small but I can handle my own, I don't need anyone to fight my battles for me.

Brian Damage
10-04-2005, 08:08 PM
If I remember correctly, didn't Michael tell Keith that if he ever hit her again there would be a problem?

Brieannas21
10-04-2005, 08:15 PM
If I remember correctly, didn't Michael tell Keith that if he ever hit her again there would be a problem?

No, Keith was going to say something to Michael and Michael said "I don't want to hear it."

Ireneparalegal
10-04-2005, 09:05 PM
I never said that it was ok that Keith hit Thelma, A man should never hit a woman no matter what she does. What I said was that it was between Keith and Thelma, that was their business and their fight. Now if Keith would have went back into the room and hit Thelma again then I think that Michael and JJ would have stepped in.

But Thelma was a strong woman and she could handle her own and as you could see in the end she did. Just like I tell my husband, I might be small but I can handle my own, I don't need anyone to fight my battles for me.
But what I am saying is that regardless if she could hold her own or not. A man, by any law, laws of decency, criminal laws, moral laws, common sense, should never hit a woman. The statement, she can hold her own sounds like she is okay because she took care of it. Regardless if she could take care of it or not, real men standing by would HAVE DONE SOMETHING. Real brothers, who are real men would HAVE DONE SOMETHING. I am not talking abt any other scenario than what was presented in this episode. Two brothers seeing their sister get hit, regardless if she is 100 lbs. and petite or 220 lbs. and a heavyweight fighter, they would have done something. It's not abt whether she needs them to do something, it's just abt doing something. I think the guys here would say the same.

Brieannas21
10-05-2005, 12:31 AM
But what I am saying is that regardless if she could hold her own or not. A man, by any law, laws of decency, criminal laws, moral laws, common sense, should never hit a woman. The statement, she can hold her own sounds like she is okay because she took care of it. Regardless if she could take care of it or not, real men standing by would HAVE DONE SOMETHING. Real brothers, who are real men would HAVE DONE SOMETHING. I am not talking abt any other scenario than what was presented in this episode. Two brothers seeing their sister get hit, regardless if she is 100 lbs. and petite or 220 lbs. and a heavyweight fighter, they would have done something. It's not abt whether she needs them to do something, it's just abt doing something. I think the guys here would say the same.


In my first post I said that Michael and JJ should have jumped in when Keith hit Thelma. Michael and JJ prob felt like it was Thelma's and Keith business and they had to work out their own mess. But if Keith would have went back and hit Thelma again then Michael and JJ would have prob stepped in.

Like the Mad Dog situation, James should have kicked Mad Dogs ass for shooting JJ but he didn't, instead he felt sorry for him. JJ and Michael knew that Keith was drunk and had been depressed, so I guess they figured that's why Keith lashed out the way he did, so they did nothing.

TVFactFan
10-05-2005, 09:44 AM
I have to admit, it is very unrealistic for a man to slap a woman in front of her two brothers and both of them don;t react at all. Only in the world of TV something like that would happen-lol

nerrad
10-05-2005, 01:49 PM
Like JJ said, "Ahhhh Man":lol:

GCW
10-05-2005, 03:55 PM
I have to admit, it is very unrealistic for a man to slap a woman in front of her two brothers and both of them don;t react at all. Only in the world of TV something like that would happen-lol

Imagine if James was still on the show, I am sure he would have done a lot more reacting.

sdb7373
10-05-2005, 05:18 PM
I agree that if James was alive he would have lit into Keith's ass. About the comment that it was between Keith and Thelma. The arguing can be bewteen them and no one should jump in on that but when it becomes a violent situation whether its a slap or a punch thats when whoever is there...brother, sister, uncle, aunt, cousin, friend, whoever should jump in and help with the situation regardless like someone said if the person is big or small. Any time a man hits on a woman and someone like their family member or friend witnessed it they should jump in and help. Now arguing I dont think anyone should jump in..they should only jump in when it gets physical as in violence.

craftman
10-05-2005, 11:56 PM
I hear that Kool. Right on my brother!!!! I know that when it comes to sisters/brothers, there are special ties that bind them, and knowing my late brother, he would have kicked some major a$$!!!! It doesn't make sense. It would have been a good idea to see the two brothers go after Keith somehow. Maybe they should have written it so that Keith slapped her when they were alone. The fact that it was done with them there makes no sense if they did nothing whatsoever. I agree with you Kool and those who believe this was totally unrealistic. As for that statement that this was between Keith and Thelma, NO WAY. WRONG. When it comes to anyone hitting anyone, regardless of their gender, it becomes everyone's business, that is, anyone who witnesses it. No man should ever hit a woman. EVER.

Too bad James wasn't around. Keith would have ended up DEAD MEAT!!!!!



That's kinda what I thought, that instead of Keith slapping Thelma in front of her brothers, they should have been alone. With Michael and JJ witnessing that and not do anything, the writers should have realize that if they didn't want Michael and JJ to do anything then they shouldn't have been there to witness it.

Ireneparalegal
10-06-2005, 12:06 AM
That's kinda what I thought, that instead of Keith slapping Thelma in front of her brothers, they should have been alone. With Michael and JJ witnessing that and not do anything, the writers should have realize that if they didn't want Michael and JJ to do anything then they shouldn't have been there to witness it.
yep yep yep...true...thanx...

craftman
10-06-2005, 12:06 AM
In my first post I said that Michael and JJ should have jumped in when Keith hit Thelma. Michael and JJ prob felt like it was Thelma's and Keith business and they had to work out their own mess. But if Keith would have went back and hit Thelma again then Michael and JJ would have prob stepped in.

Like the Mad Dog situation, James should have kicked Mad Dogs ass for shooting JJ but he didn't, instead he felt sorry for him. JJ and Michael knew that Keith was drunk and had been depressed, so I guess they figured that's why Keith lashed out the way he did, so they did nothing.


Yeah, that's true, Keith was drunk. He didn't have total control of himself. But I wonder, is it OK to kick a drunks tail for doing something they probably didn't mean to? Another tough question.

Brieannas21
10-06-2005, 12:14 AM
Yeah, that's true, Keith was drunk. He didn't have total control of himself. But I wonder, is it OK to kick a drunks tail for doing something they probably didn't mean to? Another tough question.


That's why I said that's prob why Michael and JJ didn't jump on Keith, because he was drunk and depressed. They prob knew that if he was in his right mind that he wouldn't have hit Thelma. (I'm not saying that since he was drunk then it was ok to hit her, you should never hit a woman)

I also think that if James would have still been there, that Keith wouldn't even been in the picture. I don't think they would have married Thelma off and have her and her husband living in the same house with James.

hatwink
10-09-2005, 02:16 PM
No, Keith was going to say something to Michael and Michael said "I don't want to hear it."

IN a very feminent way!

JeffRuss1972
10-09-2005, 02:52 PM
IN a very feminent way!

:lol:

Brieannas21
10-09-2005, 10:52 PM
Grow up people.

hatwink
10-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Sorry, it's true.

Ireneparalegal
10-11-2005, 02:10 AM
No, Keith was going to say something to Michael and Michael said "I don't want to hear it."
and again, TVLand made sure we didn't see that part of the episode...S**T@!%&$ I can't stand them!!!!!!

Brieannas21
10-11-2005, 03:12 AM
and again, TVLand made sure we didn't see that part of the episode...S**T@!%&$ I can't stand them!!!!!!

LOL yeah I know, they went straight to Kieth when he walks into the bedroom.

TVFactFan
10-11-2005, 11:33 AM
Damm really?-LOL TVland cut out the part when Michael and J.J flag off Keith. Well it won;t matter too much longer GT fans

sdb7373
10-11-2005, 02:39 PM
yeah...right after Thelma ran to the bedroom it went to a commercial and then when it comes back on keith is entering the room. I dont understand why they cut out certain parts of these tv shows. When it originally aired it was 30 minutes and its still a 30 minute show now so why cut out certain parts? I have this episode on my GT video collection from Columbia House. I'd rather purchase the DVD or Tape because they show all the parts of the show. They dont cut anything out.The only thing I dont like about Columbia House is they only put 4 episodes on each tape and the episodes are scattered. Like one episode might be from Season 1 and then the other episode is from season 3 then another from Season 4 etc.... I dont like that so I think I will go ahead and purchase The DVD collections. At least all the episodes are on there and in chronological order.

craftman
10-11-2005, 09:52 PM
yeah...right after Thelma ran to the bedroom it went to a commercial and then when it comes back on keith is entering the room. I dont understand why they cut out certain parts of these tv shows. When it originally aired it was 30 minutes and its still a 30 minute show now so why cut out certain parts? I have this episode on my GT video collection from Columbia House. I'd rather purchase the DVD or Tape because they show all the parts of the show. They dont cut anything out.The only thing I dont like about Columbia House is they only put 4 episodes on each tape and the episodes are scattered. Like one episode might be from Season 1 and then the other episode is from season 3 then another from Season 4 etc.... I dont like that so I think I will go ahead and purchase The DVD collections. At least all the episodes are on there and in chronological order.


Yeah, there you go. I got the Columbia House tapes too, and I didn't like how they scattered the episodes either, plus you don't get all of the episodes from Columbia House. So I got the DVD's and I think it's pretty cool, you should get 'em.

sdb7373
10-12-2005, 12:17 PM
Yeah, there you go. I got the Columbia House tapes too, and I didn't like how they scattered the episodes either, plus you don't get all of the episodes from Columbia House. So I got the DVD's and I think it's pretty cool, you should get 'em.


Thanks...yes Im gonna purchase The DVD collection. I feel like I've wasted my money on those Columbia House GT Tapes. Oh well. I can always give those away. Someone has already asked if they could have my tapes once Im ready to get rid of them.

Ireneparalegal
10-12-2005, 01:27 PM
I was really disappointed at the fact that scene was cut out. It is probably upsetting to first time viewers who have never seen the original and wondered why Thelma's brothers' didn't come to her defense, even though they didn't do what should have been done, they at least had some sort of response.

mstewart
11-14-2005, 12:18 AM
It was great when Thelma evened the score by popping him across the face. I can James saying "go baby girl."

Edster2973
11-16-2005, 12:14 PM
No man should hit on any woman for any reason.

I am in no way defending Keith in this episode. The last time I saw any of the Season 6 episodes was more than 15 years ago. I'm sure I will be just as angered when I eventually do see this happen when Season 6 is released. The thought of anyone striking Thelma, who was a real sweetheart, is deplorable.

But I want to comment that sometimes, no matter how much of a gentleman a guy may try to be, there may be a time when a man has to defend himself against a woman. I've worked in the waitering industry in the past and saw one waitress who abused her boyfriend. She was the abusive one, going after him with baseball bats and frying pans and trying to run him down with her car when she wasn't getting her way.

Now, I think it was stupid of the guy to stay with her. If it were me, the moment any woman were to even attempt to strike me, the relationship would be over, end of story. But, all chivalry aside, if any woman were to come at me with a baseball bat or a frying pan, all bets are off. The woman at that point in time ceases to be a lady as far as I'm concerned. Now, I don't go around knocking guys in the head, so I'll be darned if I'd ever kick the poop out of a woman, but if the only way to ensure that I don't get killed or seriously injured (which could happen with a frying pan or baseball) is to actually strike the wench coming at me, then that's what I'd do. I mean you're actually in the moment where no other option is available to you. And I think any of you guys, given the right circumstance, would do the same.

Let's face it. The female is unjustly thought of as the weaker sex. Truth to tell, a woman could, if she wanted to, kill a man as easily as a man could kill her. Thelma and Louise anyone? (I mean the movie, not Thelma Evans and Louis Jefferson :lol: )

Just wanted to add this point since it was stated a man should not hit a woman for ANY reason. Sometimes, a woman could prove to be worse than the scuzziest man. Visit women in prison and think of how you'd defend yourself if the need ever arose. I shudder to think...


Ed