When professional basketball player Ken Reeves (Ken Howard) suffers a serious knee injury, his career comes to a grinding halt—and all his dreams of glory seem shattered. Fortunately an old friend, who is now the principal of a Los Angeles inner-city high school, offers him a job as a basketball coach. Although initially hesitant, Reeves' love of the game finally convinces him to accept the position. But he soon discovers the only thing worse than his team's lack of skill on the court is their lack of belief in themselves off the court. Yet the new coach feels certain that the right combination of guts, sweat, luck and attention will make his players winners in the end.

DVD Features
Bonus Features:

Disc 1 Side 1:
**Pilot Commentary with Jackie Cooper and Mark Tinker

Disc 3 Side 2:
**The Great White Dope Commentary by Ken Howard and Tim Van Patten

Disc 4 Side 2:
**"More Than Basketball" Featurette

Episode Listing:

Disc 1 Side 1:
*Pilot
*Here's Mud in Your Eye

Disc 1 Side 2:
*The Offer
*Bonus Baby

Disc 2 Side 1:
*Pregnant Pause
*Wanna Bet?

Disc 2 Side 2:
*That Old Gang of Mine
*Just One of the Boys

Disc 3 Side 1:
*Airball
*We're in the Money

Disc 3 Side 2:
*Spare the Rod
*The Great White Dope

Disc 4 Side 1:
*Mainstream
*Little Orphan Abner

Disc 4 Side 2:
*LeGrand Finale

WHOO HOO......Irene is going to bed happy tonight!!!!!!

Keep the convo going. Now that we got this board, we need to represent.

hell yeah...r u gonna get the DVD's?

hell yeah...r u gonna get the DVD's?

Absotively posilutely, I've been screaming for this show on dvd for a while now, here and on another dvd forum.

Absotively posilutely, I've been screaming for this show on dvd for a while now, here and on another dvd forum.
I can't wait. But, I am worried that they may have alot of editing on the DVD's. they better not cut out the singing in the shower scenes. I watched White Shadow on ESPN Classic channel, and they always cut out the singing scenes...BS!!!!!!

I can't wait. But, I am worried that they may have alot of editing on the DVD's. they better not cut out the singing in the shower scenes. I watched White Shadow on ESPN Classic channel, and they always cut out the singing scenes...BS!!!!!!


The dvds should be fine. FOX usually does an excellent job with their releases, just judging from stuff I have, from Mary Tyler Moore Show to the Bernie Mac Show. The White Shadow episodes should be intact.

Remember that episode where that new boy had a brain aneurysm or something and died during practice, and everybody blamed Coach Reeves for overworking him? I can't remember if that's a Season 1 episode or a Season 2 episode :bonk:

Remember that episode where that new boy had a brain aneurysm or something and died during practice, and everybody blamed Coach Reeves for overworking him. I can't remember if that's a Season 1 episode or a Season 2 episode :bonk:

I barely remember the episode offhand (it's been too long since I've seen them :( ) Was that the one with Haywood Nelson?

Just found out, Jazz. It's season 2.

Sudden Death (episode #19)
desc: after a rookie basketball player dies of an anerism coach reeves
goes blaming himself for his death

Originally aired: Monday October 8, 1979 on CBS

Guest Stars: Haywood Nelson (Randy Judd) , Madge Sinclair (Mrs. Judd) , Hal Williams (Mr. Judd)

Remember that episode where that new boy had a brain aneurysm or something and died during practice, and everybody blamed Coach Reeves for overworking him? I can't remember if that's a Season 1 episode or a Season 2 episode :bonk:
Speaking of season 2, the second episode aired in year 2 was Albert Hodges which seems clearly designed to have been the season premiere because the students were returning for the fall semester in that one.

Just found out, Jazz. It's season 2.

Sudden Death (episode #19)
desc: after a rookie basketball player dies of an anerism coach reeves
goes blaming himself for his death

Originally aired: Monday October 8, 1979 on CBS

Guest Stars: Haywood Nelson (Randy Judd) , Madge Sinclair (Mrs. Judd) , Hal Williams (Mr. Judd)

That's the one! Wish it was Season 1 though. Another good one was the one where the school baseball coach was getting violent with his players and it was up to Reeves to teach him how to keep his cool before he loses his job :lol: I'm almost 100% sure that episode was from Season 1.

11 days away from the dvd. Anybody already getting eager for this? I was just checking an episode guide and remember a lot of the season 1 episodes pretty well even though I haven't seen them in years. This one-two punch of Fame and The White Shadow coming out is great for me, a one-two-three punch counting A Different World too. Those are three of my favorite shows.

White Shadow cast list:

Ken Reeves..... Ken Howard
Jim Willis (First Episode Only)..... Jason Bernard
Jim Willis (1978-1980)..... Ed Bernard
Sybil Buchanan..... Joan Pringle
James Hayward (1978-1980)..... Thomas Carter
Morris Thorpe..... Kevin Hooks
Curtis Jackson (1978-1980)..... Erik Kilpatrick
Milton Reese (1978-1980)..... Nathan Cook
Mario "Salami" Pettrino..... Timothy Van Patten
Abner Goldstein (1978-1980)..... Ken Michelman
Ricky Gomez (1978-1980)..... Ira Angustain
Warren Coolidge..... Byron Stewart
Katie Donahue (1978-1979)..... Robin Rose
Bill Donahue (1978-1979)..... Jerry Fogel
Nick Vitaglia (1979-1981)..... John Mengatti
Manager Phil Jefferson (1979-1981)..... Russell Phillip Robinson
Wardell Stone (1980-1981)..... Larry Flash Jenkins
Jesse B. Mitchell (1980-1981)..... Stoney Jackson
Teddy Rutherford (1980-1981)..... Wolfe Perry
Eddie Franklin (1980-1981)..... Art Holliday
Paddy Falahey (1980-1981)..... John Laughlin

Dr. Jazz, Ireneparalegal: did you guys get your copies yet???

Dr. Jazz, Ireneparalegal: did you guys get your copies yet???

Got mine at Target today along with A Different World. Used the $5 gift card I got when I bought Fame there last week and got another $5 gift card for buying A Different World. That's how they keep you coming back at Target :lol:

Got mine at Target today along with A Different World.


I haven't gotten A Different World yet, I thought I'd have a review copy by now but I haven't received it. I might stop in Target today to give it a look. With The White Shadow, I've only watched the first two episodes so far. I'm taking my time with it. I watched the pilot twice, listened to the commentary the second time through.

I haven't gotten A Different World yet, I thought I'd have a review copy by now but I haven't received it. I might stop in Target today to give it a look. With The White Shadow, I've only watched the first two episodes so far. I'm taking my time with it. I watched the pilot twice, listened to the commentary the second time through.

The interior of the box set and the booklet are very nice on the Different World DVD. There's a letter from Debbie Allen on the first page of the booklet talking about the show. Funny they had her do a letter for Season 1 since she didn't start producing the show until Season 2. Aside from being syndicated prints, the picture and sound is very good also. I was surprised it was only $24.99, I figured it would be over $30 like the Cosby Show set was.

The interior of the box set and the booklet are very nice on the Different World DVD. There's a letter from Debbie Allen on the first page of the booklet talking about the show. Funny they had her do a letter for Season 1 since she didn't start producing the show until Season 2. Aside from being syndicated prints, the picture and sound is very good also.

Sounds like they made a nice package to make up for that bad cover. That first season for me was nothing compared to all the rest, and because they're also syndicated episodes, I can wait on this one.

Got mine at Target today along with A Different World. Used the $5 gift card I got when I bought Fame there last week and got another $5 gift card for buying A Different World. That's how they keep you coming back at Target :lol:


I went over to Target before I left work today. They had two copies of Shadow left on the shelf. I didn't see Fame anywhere, it was there last week but I don't know if they saved a space for it now that it's in its second week. I was tempted to get ADW seeing it was only $24.99 plus you'd get the $5 back, but I didn't.

I went over to Target before I left work today. They had two copies of Shadow left on the shelf. I didn't see Fame anywhere, it was there last week but I don't know if they saved a space for it now that it's in its second week. I was tempted to get ADW seeing it was only $24.99 plus you'd get the $5 back, but I didn't.

No one's made any mention of it, but ADW featured a good bit of R&B music, mostly playing in the background at the Pit. I noticed while watching some of the DVD, that all the original music seems to be intact. I first noticed it when I heard a Supremes song playing during the first episode when Denise & Dwayne are dancing at the Pit. I would have figured Urbanworks (being a smaller company) would have edited out all the music, but I was pleasantly surprised :cool: Now, if only Anchor Bay would have paid for music rights on the 21 Jump Street sets. . . .

So Are There Any Edits On The DVD?

Someone had posted before this board was created that TWS had one episode that was cut on the Season 1 DVD. Do you know which one it is?

Jack

So Are There Any Edits On The DVD?

Someone had posted before this board was created that TWS had one episode that was cut on the Season 1 DVD. Do you know which one it is?

Jack


Here are the episode lengths. I'm missing Here's Mud in Your Eye at the moment, but I know that one's in the 48 minute range. So clearly The Offer is noticeably shorter than all the rest, but I couldn't tell you what specifically is missing from that episode on the dvd. It's been too long since I originally watched to remember.

Disc 1 Side 1:
Pilot (48:19)
Here's Mud in Your Eye

Disc 1 Side 2:
The Offer (43:41)
Bonus Baby (48:10)

Disc 2 Side 1:
Pregnant Pause (48:12)
Wanna Bet? (48:14)

Disc 2 Side 2:
That Old Gang of Mine (48:15)
Just One of the Boys (48:14)

Disc 3 Side 1:
Airball (48:13)
We're in the Money (48:15)

Disc 3 Side 2:
Spare the Rod (48:17)
The Great White Dope (48:16)

Disc 4 Side 1:
Mainstream (48:13)
Little Orphan Abner (48:15)

Disc 4 Side 2:
LeGrand Finale (48:16)

Yea,

I checked this other forum with a thread about TWS, and it seems that Season 1, Episode 3 ("The Offer") is cut by about 4 and a half minutes. Possible exolanations are given here:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246318&highlight=The+White+Shadow

Maybe someone could contact Fox to request an offical explanation. If enough people complain perhaps they could search for the missing footage and reissue the Season 1 DVD. (I head that Paramount did this with I Love Lucy on a few episodes of Season 4. There are also some very minor edits on Season 4 of The Brady Bunch DVD as well.)

The White Shadow had a fine and at times almost cult following of fans! There really are so many good things to say about this series.

Jack

Interesting tidbit about "That Old Gang of Mine": Lisle Wilson, who was a guest star as the teacher Mr. Finniman, played Leonard on That's My Mama, which in its 2nd season featured Joan Pringle (Sybil Buchanan) as his wife

With regard to "The Offer":

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW (But Needed to Explain What I Believe Was Cut.)

I watched "The Offer" last night on DVD and even before I got into it, I could tell it was a syndicated print. It looks very good, but not as sharp as the other episodes where they appear to be taken directly from the original masters. The Offer has a scene when Coach Reeves and the reporter are having dinner where you can see the color quickley fade out in some shots, as if the episode had been colorized and remastered from a syndicated showing and not the original tape.

Although I don't have the original tape, it appears that the cut of about 4 minutes occurs around the time that the team is PO'd at Reeves because Gomez makes a call from a police station. (He gets picked up for Shoplifting) but after contacting Reeves, the coach is busy getting ready for an interview with the reporter and apoligizes to Gomez that he is busy and abruptly hangs up on him. Gomez never gets to tell what happens to him in the call to Reeves. (This is included.)

We than have the coach question the team who give him the silent treatment because they hear from the grapvine that Gomez is in jail. His probation officer, Ms. Bucannon, everyone is questioning Reeves about Gomez. Suddenly Gomez, is shown playing a basketball game as if nothing had happened! I would assume that Reeves goes to the jailhouse to help bail Gomez out and there is probably more dialogue about Reeves telling the reporter that he doesn't want to be a sports commentator, but wants to stay at Carver to help the kids. (All of this could EASILY fill up four minutes of time and would be CRITICAL to understanding the story!) It is so obvious that there should be more dialogue with Reeves and Gomez that we don't see. This was A LOT more than oversight.

Jack

Yep, THE OFFER on the season one DVD is a cut episode. Fox is usually good at putting uncut shows on their DVD's, wonder what happened here? Perhaps they couldn't locate an uncut print of the episode?

Dr. Jazz, Ireneparalegal: did you guys get your copies yet???
Yes I did a long time ago. :lol: Hey Vashti, where the hell are you???? You are surely missed here. :(

With regard to "The Offer":

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW (But Needed to Explain What I Believe Was Cut.)

I watched "The Offer" last night on DVD and even before I got into it, I could tell it was a syndicated print. It looks very good, but not as sharp as the other episodes where they appear to be taken directly from the original masters. The Offer has a scene when Coach Reeves and the reporter are having dinner where you can see the color quickley fade out in some shots, as if the episode had been colorized and remastered from a syndicated showing and not the original tape.

Although I don't have the original tape, it appears that the cut of about 4 minutes occurs around the time that the team is PO'd at Reeves because Gomez makes a call from a police station. (He gets picked up for Shoplifting) but after contacting Reeves, the coach is busy getting ready for an interview with the reporter and apoligizes to Gomez that he is busy and abruptly hangs up on him. Gomez never gets to tell what happens to him in the call to Reeves. (This is included.)

We than have the coach question the team who give him the silent treatment because they hear from the grapvine that Gomez is in jail. His probation officer, Ms. Bucannon, everyone is questioning Reeves about Gomez. Suddenly Gomez, is shown playing a basketball game as if nothing had happened! I would assume that Reeves goes to the jailhouse to help bail Gomez out and there is probably more dialogue about Reeves telling the reporter that he doesn't want to be a sports commentator, but wants to stay at Carver to help the kids. (All of this could EASILY fill up four minutes of time and would be CRITICAL to understanding the story!) It is so obvious that there should be more dialogue with Reeves and Gomez that we don't see. This was A LOT more than oversight.

Jack

I think the part that's cut from THE OFFER may be where the team finds out Gomez got arrested and coach Reeves blew Gomez off when he received the phone call. In chapter 10, we see the team practicing in the gym, then we see Reeves walk in and the team is pissed at him. So something in between there seems to be missing, and that's where I figure the edit in the episode likely comes in. There should be a scene with the team talking among themselves what happened with Gomez prior to coach Reeves walking into the gym.

Too bad this episode is cut on the DVD. Fox is usually pretty good about uncut episodes. Either someone screwed up or perhaps they couldn't locate an uncut print of the episode.