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Ireneparalegal 09-13-2005, 11:42 PM BICYCLIST RAN STOP SIGN
PEDESTRIAN WALKING IN "UNMARKED" CROSSWALK
Ore. Bicyclist Charged With Manslaughter
Sep 12 12:21 PM US/Eastern
CORVALLIS, Ore.
A bicyclist was charged with manslaughter after he ran through a stop sign and struck and killed a 71-year-old woman, police said Monday.
Jean Calder died at Good Samaritan Hospital after she was struck Friday night as she crossed a street at an unmarked crosswalk, Corvallis police Capt. Ron Noble said.
Christopher A. Lightning, 51, was charged with manslaughter and reckless driving.
"A car and a bicycle are both vehicles and if they are operated in a way that could be criminal, then charges are filed equally in both situations," Noble said. "He was going right through a stop sign."
Lightning was being housed in Benton County jail with bail set at $57,500. He will be given a court-appointed lawyer at his arraignment in Benton County.
Hollow 09-13-2005, 11:56 PM yes, bicyclists have to obey traffic rules just as much as car drivers do.
Janice 09-14-2005, 12:14 AM yes, bicyclists have to obey traffic rules just as much as car drivers do.
I agree.
vienna waits 09-14-2005, 12:27 AM SHOULD EVERY ONE OF YOUR THREADS CONTAIN ALL CAPS? I'll decide...
no.
Ireneparalegal 09-14-2005, 12:34 AM SHOULD EVERY ONE OF YOUR THREADS CONTAIN ALL CAPS? I'll decide...
no.
I asked Janice the moderator on a forum for all to see if typing in all caps in the title was a problem. Her response was "no"
thank you for following me on every thread and bringing this up over and over again.
vienna waits 09-14-2005, 12:43 AM I asked Janice the moderator on a forum for all to see if typing in all caps in the title was a problem. Her response was "no"
thank you for following me on every thread and bringing this up over and over again.
no problem because it's annoying. but i can't help your typing issues so whatever.
Ireneparalegal 09-14-2005, 12:50 AM no problem because it's annoying. but i can't help your typing issues so whatever.
I don't recall asking for help with my typing. LOL LOL LOL LOL :lol:
Things annoy me abt certain "things" but I don't complain. I just post abt the subject at hand. Nothing else. I don't berate others typing, their grammar etc. That's against the rules. even if it WASN'T, I still wouldn't do it.
vienna waits 09-14-2005, 12:54 AM I don't recall asking for help with my typing. LOL LOL LOL LOL :lol:
Things annoy me abt certain "things" but I don't complain. I just post abt the subject at hand. Nothing else. I don't berate others typing, their grammar etc. That's against the rules. even if it WASN'T, I still wouldn't do it.
it's pretty much common courtesy online that you don't type in all caps because it's more or less the same as yelling at someone. it's like someone walking up to you on the street and shouting the question at you rather than just asking. i think you think it creates some effect of importance for your topics but really it's just an eye sore.
Janice 09-14-2005, 12:59 AM I'm pretty sure that typing the subject line in all caps is acceptable, but I'll double check.
vienna waits 09-14-2005, 01:00 AM I'm pretty sure that typing the subject line in all caps is acceptable, but I'll double check.
yeah see i doubt there's a "rule" about it because most people have enough sense.
Ireneparalegal 09-14-2005, 01:05 AM I'm pretty sure that typing the subject line in all caps is acceptable, but I'll double check.
Thank you Janice. and I apologize that you are having to waste your time "again" regarding this issue.
Ireneparalegal 09-14-2005, 01:09 AM it's pretty much common courtesy online that you don't type in all caps because it's more or less the same as yelling at someone. it's like someone walking up to you on the street and shouting the question at you rather than just asking. i think you think it creates some effect of importance for your topics but really it's just an eye sore.
Um, you think it's an eyesore. No one else has told me anything. And besides, I don't recall saying that my titles are more important to anyone else's. As a matter of fact, I type in all caps in titles as a habit. Being a paralegal and drafting documents, it's a legal form of typing. Nothing else. I happen to find myself typing in legal form at times. Whenever I use the word ABOUT, i type it like this: abt. At times when I use the word REGARDING I may use: re I have kinda stopped using RE because some posters didn't understand that word. It's not something I am doing to irritate you or anyone else. It's my form of typing that's all. Common sense says I am not shouting, merely highlighting a title. I can see your point if I did it in my post. I have no disrespect towards you.
Janice 09-14-2005, 01:15 AM yeah see i doubt there's a "rule" about it because most people have enough sense.
Like I said, I'll check on it. If there's no rule, there's no problem.
Janice 09-14-2005, 01:16 AM Being a paralegal and drafting documents
Irene, you're a paralegal? I never would have guessed. ;)
Ireneparalegal 09-14-2005, 01:19 AM Irene, you're a paralegal? I never would have guessed. ;)
It's a secret sssshhhhhhhh :lol:
At one point, I had the option turned on to prevent "shouting" in thread titles and posts.. but people then complained they couldn't type in all caps within their posts. It's a no win situation.
Technically, there is probably a rule against it but how could it be enforced?
I could see how it be slightly annoying. I thought it was to draw attention to the thead more than anything.
5. In addition, please Do NOT correct other users spelling, punctuation, and/or grammar. This isn't English class - as long as the point's in the message, mistakes here and there are ok. We do ask that, if possible, you refrain from typing in all-capital letters - many consider this a form of shouting, which is considered a rude behavior. Moderators have the right to edit posts containing all-capital letters at their discretion.
rusyd 09-14-2005, 10:07 PM Back to the question at hand, Yes, bicyclyists have to obey the rules of the road also. As far as the disagreement about ALL CAPS, I don't see the big deal, but oh well. :)
If he was driving the bicycle recklessly, then yes-there is no difference between a car and a
bicycle.
Hollow 09-15-2005, 08:21 PM Um, you think it's an eyesore. No one else has told me anything. And besides, I don't recall saying that my titles are more important to anyone else's. As a matter of fact, I type in all caps in titles as a habit. Being a paralegal and drafting documents, it's a legal form of typing. Nothing else. I happen to find myself typing in legal form at times. Whenever I use the word ABOUT, i type it like this: abt. At times when I use the word REGARDING I may use: re I have kinda stopped using RE because some posters didn't understand that word. It's not something I am doing to irritate you or anyone else. It's my form of typing that's all. Common sense says I am not shouting, merely highlighting a title. I can see your point if I did it in my post. I have no disrespect towards you.
i know what you mean though, i print everything in all capitals.
Having witnessed some pretty reckless and irresponsible behavior from some of the cyclists I've seen here in NYC, I say yes too.
You wanna drive like a nut (even on a bike) you have to face the consequences.
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