TRASH!!!!!-lol What a horrible painting for a bank. Didn't fit at all. Like the man said, he wanted to see the HAPPY side of Ghetto life, no Big Money Grip shooting Pool inside the Dirty A$$ Pool Hall. J.J was a certified Idiot

Like I said before, the ghetto may be in general a bad place, but there are good people. Who wants to see a pool hall when they walk inside the bank? Or wherever that mural was? It's a nice mural, just needed to painted somewhere else.

I agree, it was bad taste.

Like I said before, the ghetto may be in general a bad place, but there are good people. Who wants to see a pool hall when they walk inside the bank? Or wherever that mural was? It's a nice mural, just needed to painted somewhere else.



Not only was J.J dumb in school, he didn't have common sense either. Like the bully said in Lunch Money Ripoff, J.J was nothing but a BROOM STICK WITH TEETH-lol No Brains at all

Not only was J.J dumb in school, he didn't have common sense either. Like the bully said in Lunch Money Ripoff, J.J was nothing but a BROOM STICK WITH TEETH-lol No Brains at all
Man, and that mouth of JJ's was also sooooo huge. I wonder how many cigarettes one could put in his mouth????

TRASH!!!!!-lol What a horrible painting for a bank. Didn't fit at all. Like the man said, he wanted to see the HAPPY side of Ghetto life, no Big Money Grip shooting Pool inside the Dirty A$$ Pool Hall. J.J was a certified Idiot




Man, that painting was fresh! Like JJ said, "What can be happier than shooting a little 8 ball."

Yea but what does an 8-ball have to do with the bank? There was absolutely no connection. He should've painted that exact same thing on the facade of a pool hall.

I still like how James stood up for JJ, although I dislike how he was jealous that JJ was coming through for Thelma.

Yea but what does an 8-ball have to do with the bank? There was absolutely no connection. He should've painted that exact same thing on the facade of a pool hall.

I still like how James stood up for JJ, although I dislike how he was jealous that JJ was coming through for Thelma.



I don't think he was jealous, i think it was being disappointed with himself for not being able to come through for Thelma.

Yea but what does an 8-ball have to do with the bank? There was absolutely no connection. He should've painted that exact same thing on the facade of a pool hall.

I still like how James stood up for JJ, although I dislike how he was jealous that JJ was coming through for Thelma.



JJ was a ghetto ar-tist, he paints what he feels. Just like when Flo asked him "Why can't you paint trees, mountains, green meadows?"

JJ: As soon as we get some of 'em around here, I'll paint 'em.

Besides what kind of picture could he have painted for a bank...........a safe?

JJ was a ghetto ar-tist, he paints what he feels. Just like when Flo asked him "Why can't you paint trees, mountains, green meadows?"

JJ: As soon as we get some of 'em around here, I'll paint 'em.

Besides what kind of picture could he have painted for a bank...........a safe?



The Bank Manager told J.J what he wanted him to paint on the Wall-"Kids playing in a Fire Hydrant"
But for some odd reason, J,J painted BIG WILLIE KOONTZ And THE GANG-lol

actually Soloman, i think the bank manager was referring to JJ's other mural of kids playing near a fire hydrant, which is why he commissioned JJ to paint a mural similar to that one in his bank. He said words to the effect of: "I want you paint something that reflects ghetto life, such as the children playing by the fire hydrant".

The Bank Manager told J.J what he wanted him to paint on the Wall-"Kids playing in a Fire Hydrant"
But for some odd reason, J,J painted BIG WILLIE KOONTZ And THE GANG-lol


He didn't say he wanted JJ to paint a picture with kids playing. He said that he saw a painting that JJ had painted with kids playing in the Hydrant that one of his friends bought from JJ.

The manager or Owner never told JJ to paint a certain painting. He should have talked to JJ and asked him about the things that he painted and he shoud have looked at all of JJ paintings before he asked him. JJ painted what he knew and what he saw in everyday life, So he painted the Pool Hall. Everyone liked the painted except for the manager.

actually Soloman, i think the bank manager was referring to JJ's other mural of kids playing near a fire hydrant, which is why he commissioned JJ to paint a mural similar to that one in his bank. He said words to the effect of: "I want you paint something that reflects ghetto life, such as the children playing by the fire hydrant".


But since Mr. Hewitt's reason for coming to the Evans APT was because of the kids playing in the fire hydrant, It seemed like J.J would have had enough sense to paint a LARGER VERSION of the picture Mr. Hewitt was impressed with.

It's a beautiful mural, it's spectacular, but not for a bank building.

But since Mr. Hewitt's reason for coming to the Evans APT was because of the kids playing in the fire hydrant, It seemed like J.J would have had enough sense to paint a LARGER VERSION of the picture Mr. Hewitt was impressed with.
True. bottom line if someone is commissioned to do a mural on a public building, best that the manager and the painter sit down and discuss the details. Dumb!!!!

But since Mr. Hewitt's reason for coming to the Evans APT was because of the kids playing in the fire hydrant, It seemed like J.J would have had enough sense to paint a LARGER VERSION of the picture Mr. Hewitt was impressed with.



Oh yeah, nothing says banking like kids playing in a fire hydrant. :rolleyes: That's just about as ghetto as playing 8 ball in a pool hall. JJ probably figured he liked one ghetto painting, he'd like 'em all.

okay okay...the bank manager said he wanted a painting that would reflect the happy or positive side of ghetto life. something like that. kids playing with a fire hydrant (one shooting out water I assume) is something you see alot in the big cities. So that would have been appropriate, but the bank manager wanted something similar to that.

he wanted something that reflected ghetto life.

he wanted something that reflected ghetto life.



Ummm, you mean like shooting pool in a pool hall. ;)

Ummm, you mean like shooting pool in a pool hall. ;)
You know damn well what the bank manager wanted....DUH!!!! There are murders in the ghetto too, but you don't want that crap painted on the wall!!! :lol:

You know damn well what the bank manager wanted....DUH!!!! There are murders in the ghetto too, but you don't want that crap painted on the wall!!! :lol:



Well give me an example of the happy side of ghetto life. Welfare, unemployment, gangs, winos, junkies, run down buildings............

KIDS PLAYING WITH FIRE HYDRANT WATER...KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES...A FAMILY IN THE PARK...KIDS PLAYING IN THE SNOW (IF THEIR CITY SNOWS DURING WINTER) KIDS PLAYING STICKBALL...KIDS PLAYING DODGEBALL...KIDS PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK...KIDS IN THE PARK...A FATHER PLAYING WITH HIS KIDS...A MOTHER PLAYING WITH HER KIDS...KIDS EATING ICE CREAM...

Where did Kids come into this. He wanted JJ to paint him a picture and that's what JJ did. If he wanted a certain kinda picture then he should have told JJ what to paint. So it's the Bank Managers fault, Playing pool is a great past time hanging with your buddies is a great past time. It's what they all see and is what they are use too.

So the manager should have looked at all of JJ's work before he asked him to paint anything, to get a feel of what his art was about.

You don't buy a used car before test driving it. So he should have talked to JJ more and he didn't. JJ did what he was told

So I have to agree with Craftman on this one.

Where did Kids come into this. He wanted JJ to paint him a picture and that's what JJ did. If he wanted a certain kinda picture then he should have told JJ what to paint. So it's the Bank Managers fault, Playing pool is a great past time hanging with your buddies is a great past time. It's what they all see and is what they are use too.

So the manager should have looked at all of JJ's work before he asked him to paint anything, to get a feel of what his art was about.

You don't buy a used car before test driving it. So he should have talked to JJ more and he didn't. JJ did what he was told
I know. check my previous posts. I did say this already. but somebody decided to be a wise guy and posted what positive things are there in the ghetto????? welfare??unemployment??? etc. I mentioned kids because of the kids playing w/fire hydrant painting that JJ did. We have already discussed how it's the bank manager's fault. Any two idiots in the world would have discussed the mural beforehand.

It's a beautiful mural, it's spectacular, but not for a bank building.

I just saw the episode for the first time today, and I have to agree...a beautiful mural, but not for a bank.

I just saw the episode for the first time today, and I have to agree...a beautiful mural, but not for a bank.
Exactly.!!!!!

Agreed. Bad taste for a bank. I used to think about that when I was a kid.

You know, i was 11 when I saw that episode for the first time (during GT first run) and even then I knew it was a bad idea for a bank!!!!! My opinion has not changed. Obviously others feel the same way.

"What's wrong with shooting a little 8 ball"?

"What's wrong with shooting a little 8 ball"?
I love 8-ball. But the topic is was it bad for a bank building?

Oh no. That's what JJ said to the bank manager. I also thought the painting was bad taste for a bank.

I don't think he was jealous, i think it was being disappointed with himself for not being able to come through for Thelma.

Yeah - that's how I took it too - as a father, normally he's the one who's the provider for the family.

I agree though - even though shooting pool can be fun, it wasn't appropriate for a bank. Especially the poolhalls I remember from the 70s - most of them were MAJOR dives and pretty seedy. Usually THE place where bets were made or drugs were sold. I'm sure he could have painted kids playing in a playground - or shooting some B-ball or neighbours coming together.
As an artist myself, the first rule is that if you're being commissioned by someone else, you paint what they want even if you don't agree with it. Its their money they're spending afterall. If you stick to your guns too much, that's when you become the perverbial (sp?) "starving artist".

To see the Happy side of Ghetto Life all someone would have to do is look at the Opening Credits of Season 1, 2, and 3 when the Little boys are running around and the other little boy on the Bike

Who said they were happy? ;)

Who said they were happy? ;)


Come on Brian, You know those kids in the opening Credits were Happy. Now the kids in the Closing Credit didn't look happy at all-lol

:rofl: Come on Brian, You know those kids in the opening Credits were Happy. Now the kids in the Closing Credit didn't look happy at all-lol
:rofl: They looked like they could kick my A**

:rofl:
:rofl: They looked like they could kick my A**



One of those girls was coming toward the Camera-lol

Was that a girl?????????

Was that a girl?????????


Yes they were all girls

Even that big one with a white t-shirt and the afro???? I swear that is a guy!!! OMG

Even that big one with a white t-shirt and the afro???? I swear that is a guy!!! OMG



Yeah just looked at it again, it was a Fat Girl with a Fro. They were all girls hanging out together

KIDS PLAYING WITH FIRE HYDRANT WATER...KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES...A FAMILY IN THE PARK...KIDS PLAYING IN THE SNOW (IF THEIR CITY SNOWS DURING WINTER) KIDS PLAYING STICKBALL...KIDS PLAYING DODGEBALL...KIDS PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK...KIDS IN THE PARK...A FATHER PLAYING WITH HIS KIDS...A MOTHER PLAYING WITH HER KIDS...KIDS EATING ICE CREAM...



You don't have to yell, Irene. All these example you gave, how does this show the happy side of GHETTO life. You could see all these scenes on Lake Shore Drive, where all the rich blacks live. :D

You don't have to yell, Irene. All these example you gave, how does this show the happy side of GHETTO life. You could see all these scenes on Lake Shore Drive, where all the rich blacks live. :D
Damn u craftman!!!! Get off of it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS THIS TOO LOUD FOR YOU!!!????? :lol: :p :argue: :soapbox: LOL LOL

To see the Happy side of Ghetto Life all someone would have to do is look at the Opening Credits of Season 1, 2, and 3 when the Little boys are running around and the other little boy on the Bike



Those kids running weren't happy, they were running from the Warlords.

:rofl:
:rofl: They looked like they could kick my A**


They looked like they was about to jack somebody for their bike.

OH S**T!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn u craftman!!!! Get off of it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS THIS TOO LOUD FOR YOU!!!????? :lol: :p :argue: :soapbox: LOL LOL



Just having fun with you.
peace:

Just having fun with you.
peace:
NOT ON MY TIME BUDDY!!!!!!! just kidding LOL

Yeah just looked at it again, it was a Fat Girl with a Fro. They were all girls hanging out together


I thought it was Shirley from What's happening at first.

I thought it was Shirley from What's happening at first.


Shirley fro was much bigger than that

They looked like they was about to jack somebody for their bike.

:rofl: Now - now!! No stereotyping or we'll have the PC police down our throats!!! :lol:

If its like the old housing complex I used to hang around they were running from the cops for sure!! :lol:

:rofl: Now - now!! No stereotyping or we'll have the PC police down our throats!!! :lol:

If its like the old housing complex I used to hang around they were running from the cops for sure!! :lol:


It also looked like they were about to Jack the cameraman shooting them-lol

It also looked like they were about to Jack the cameraman shooting them-lol
:rofl:

Yeah - 15 seconds later you'd see the screen go black and then just snow.....

:rofl:

Yeah - 15 seconds later you'd see the screen go black and then just snow.....



I wonder if any of those girls watched Good times and was able to identify theirself in the closing credits

:rofl:

Yeah - 15 seconds later you'd see the screen go black and then just snow.....
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: Tripper, u r too much!!!! I love it. You know, I wonder if those girls are still alive? If so, do they brag abt being shown on the ending credits. Soloman, wouldn't they have to sign a release in order for their faces to be shown? Tripper, i am still laughing, i keep messing up on typing this. Screen would go black and then snow!!!! I still can't believe that is a GIRL. That to me, I always thought was a DUDE!!!!!!! I looked at it good last night w/my daughter. She said it looks like a guy!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: Tripper, u r too much!!!! I love it. You know, I wonder if those girls are still alive? If so, do they brag abt being shown on the ending credits. Soloman, wouldn't they have to sign a release in order for their faces to be shown? Tripper, i am still laughing, i keep messing up on typing this. Screen would go black and then snow!!!! I still can't believe that is a GIRL. That to me, I always thought was a DUDE!!!!!!! I looked at it good last night w/my daughter. She said it looks like a guy!!!

;) Glad you got a good laugh!!

I'll have to watch more closely tonight to check out this guy/girl thing - hey - maybe its the person they used in that scene where people think Michael's kissing a guy!!! She had just grown up a bit from when that segment was filmed!!! We might just explain a couple of things here! :eek3:
From the looks of her, she could have been related to Aunt Esther from Sanford & Son - either way, pretty unnerving to have that running right atchya! Don't envy that cameraman one bit!! :lol:

[QUOTE=TripperFan]:rofl: Now - now!! No stereotyping or we'll have the PC police down our throats!!! :lol:

LOL you never know

I think the bank manager should have clarified what jj could and could not paint. but after all its just a show :wave:

sorry I been away from the board

My PC is broke down

[QUOTE=TripperFan]:rofl: Now - now!! No stereotyping or we'll have the PC police down our throats!!! :lol:

LOL you never know
Oh Tripper, better be careful, WE MIGHT GET SUED!!!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!!
TO ANY OF THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND US OR WHO CHOOSE NOT TO UNDERSTAND US....JUST READ MY AVATAR!!!!!!!!! :wave: :lol: :nonono: :clap: Tripper you make me laugh!!!

I think the bank manager should have clarified what jj could and could not paint. but after all its just a show :wave:

sorry I been away from the board

My PC is broke down



He did Clarify, he said Kids playing in a fire hydrant, that was his example but J.J was just too DUMB to follow his directions-lol

Ha Ha true

I wonder if the people at the ceremony really like it. James 'sorta' scared everyone into saying "yeah". :)

I watched this whole ep very closely last night (including those fabulous closing credits - yep - its a girl alright! As a matter of fact, I think I went to middle school with that chick!!! :lol: She used to beat everybody up!!) And I don't think the kids were really running - looked more to me that they had just FINISHED rolling somebody. I expect some poor, scrawny girl in pigtails to be hanging upside down from the monkey bars in the playground that they just came from. LOL

The one thing that really stood out to me what the nerve of the geezer - to expect he could just walk into someone's home like he's a long lost uncle to drop dead!!?!?! At least wait for Michael to be there before you go explaining what your purpose is. I mean, who the hell wants a dead body in their apt.?

On the other hand, it was a heart warming ending - what a great way to go eh? Everybody partying and singing and dancing and then you just sit down and let go - couldn't ask for better! (Except for maybe a Christmas tree - why weren't there ANY sort of decorations put up - other than the ones Willona's boyfriend paid for, for the New Year's celebration)? I know they were supposed to be quite poor, but you'd think they could afford a small table tree even from the Salvation Army or something.

You guys would know - was James not in that ep because he was in negotiations with the producers - which eventually led to his firing at this point?

He did Clarify, he said Kids playing in a fire hydrant, that was his example but J.J was just too DUMB to follow his directions-lol

He didn't say that he wanted JJ to paint him a picture of kids playing in the hydrant. He said he saw a painting that JJ painted of kids playing in the hydrant and he liked it. He should have told JJ that he wanted him to paint the kids playing if he wanted that painting.

You don't have someone come into your house to paint your walls and don't tell them what color you want your walls painted.

Unless you live in the projects, then you have no choice, THEY PAINT WITH THE COLOR THEY! WANT!!!! not you...LOL LOL LOL

Unless you live in the projects, then you have no choice, THEY PAINT WITH THE COLOR THEY! WANT!!!! not you...LOL LOL LOL


:lol: Well I wasn't talking about the projects.

And they paint the inside of your house in the projects while you are still in the house!!!!!!!! sniffing all those bad fumes!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!