View Full Version : UNGRATEFUL ACTORS/ACTRESSES etc.


Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 07:58 PM
I just finished reading the article about Pierce Brosnan not being chosen to play 007 again. In his words he is going on and on abt how he didn't feel a connection or something like that to the Bond character anyway. It reminded me of actors/actresses who have played a character so well, they became identified with that character and then they later trashed that character. For example, Gary Coleman, rather than be grateful for the job he had playing Arnold, he resents people who remember him for that. For God's sake, that was his bread and butter. Can anyone else think of any celebrity who is ungrateful for their success or for a character they played?

Rene
08-17-2005, 08:05 PM
sarah michelle gellar-buffy-she never goes to conventions or gives interviews to buffy mags or seems grateful to the fans

Pitooey
08-17-2005, 08:08 PM
The actress who played Jan (Eve Plumb) on the Brady Bunch is another example who resents her fame as Jan.

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 08:11 PM
Oh yeah, you sure are right abt Eve.

LadyBee
08-17-2005, 08:42 PM
Isn't Sean Penn embarrassed about the Spicoli character he played in "Fast Times..."?

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 08:45 PM
Isn't Sean Penn embarrassed about the Spicoli character he played in "Fast Times..."?
Hmmm, not sure. I know I read something abt Sean talking abt the character, but I can't recall. Recently on BEING BOBBY BROWN, Whitney didn't want to sign autographs or have pics taken of her. Bobby on the other hand said something to the effect of being grateful to his fans. Whitney was screaming, "I want to left alone". Then WHY ON EARTH HONEY DID YOU DECIDE TO BECOME FAMOUS???? One could sing without becoming famous. She could have sung in nightclubs, karaoke bars, etc.

Dean Winchester
08-17-2005, 08:47 PM
sarah michelle gellar-buffy-she never goes to conventions or gives interviews to buffy mags or seems grateful to the fans

oh I know, it all went to hell when Freddie Prinze Jr. came into the picture :rolleyes:

Mr. Television
08-17-2005, 08:48 PM
I know Ray Walston always resented the fame he received from playing the martian on My Favorite Martian. I think Larry Hagman had some regrets from playing Tony Nelson on IDOJ until at least recently. He never used to take part in any reunions or interviews with the cast until the last few years. What about John Travolta and the cast of Welcome Back Kotter. Whenever the cast gets together he's always absent and I never hear him talking about the show.

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 08:48 PM
oh I know, it all went to hell when Freddie Prinze Jr. came into the picture :rolleyes:
why do you think that? do you think he had something to do with it?

Penny Lane
08-17-2005, 08:54 PM
Tina Louise will have nothing to do with the character that made her famous.(Ginger, Gilligan's Island) But as I see it who would even know who she is without the Ginger role? :lol: As far as I know she never even came close to fame before or since Gilligan's Island. :rolleyes:

Dean Winchester
08-17-2005, 09:02 PM
why do you think that? do you think he had something to do with it?

yes, he encouraged her to quit Buffy and then he belittled both the show and it's fans in an E! interview and tries to control her choices in film. I do not like him

Rene
08-17-2005, 09:06 PM
yes, he encouraged her to quit Buffy and then he belittled both the show and it's fans in an E! interview and tries to control her choices in film. I do not like him

what did he say about buffy fans? :confused: :mad:

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 09:08 PM
yes, he encouraged her to quit Buffy and then he belittled both the show and it's fans in an E! interview and tries to control her choices in film. I do not like him
You should start a thread abt this. I'm serious. Can u imagine what Buffy fans and Chico & the Man fans would post!!!!!!! HOT HOT HOT

Mikado
08-17-2005, 10:17 PM
Tina Louise will have nothing to do with the character that made her famous.(Ginger, Gilligan's Island) But as I see it who would even know who she is without the Ginger role? :lol: As far as I know she never even came close to fame before or since Gilligan's Island. :rolleyes:
Well, 2 reasons, #1 she blames GI for cutting off the career as a MOVIE actress she REALLY wanted #2 She claims she had been promised the lead on the show...even though it wasnt called Gingers island ...hmmmmmm

Mikado
08-17-2005, 10:20 PM
Don Adams hates the fact that hes so typecast as Maxwell Smart...gripes that he never got a chance to prove he could be a REAL actor...geez, who wouldnt have loved to trade places with him? :rolleyes:

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 10:23 PM
It just came to mind that Robert Reed hated the fact that he will always be remembered for The Brady Bunch. He had studied Shakespeare in school and was hoping for a "better" career as far as acting is concerned. I don't understand why then do actors/actresses and other famous people take on what they do if they are going to gripe abt it later?

LucyCompanyPhan
08-17-2005, 10:25 PM
I don't think Pierce Brosnan is ungrateful. He can't be James Bond forever. Plus, those movies haven't been good in 25 years anyway. What about the one guy who was James Bond in one movie and quit. Pierce was James Bond for 10 years and starred in four movies. He played it out and they waited along time to decide if they wanted to keep him or not.

The only people I think are ungrateful are those that sign on for movies that are most likely to get a sequel and then refuse to do so. The Batman movies come to mind.

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 10:29 PM
Nope. I never typed that Pierce was ungrateful. But his negative point of view of the character was what got me to thinking about actors/actresses that ARE UNGRATEFUL. In an industry with so many people wanting to be actors/actresses, I just feel that people should be grateful for what is offered to them. And when they do take on a roll, don't be a jerk abt it and slam it. If it put a roof over your head and food on your table, be thankful.

Janice
08-17-2005, 10:32 PM
I think Suzanne Somers was ungrateful while she was on Three's Company. Her sky-high demands for money and her no-shows were lousy.

Central Perk
08-17-2005, 10:35 PM
Eddie Murphy gives off the feeling of being ungrateful toward his years at SNL. Maybe he is, yet he never seems to acknowledge it or has attended any reunions.

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 10:39 PM
I think Suzanne Somers was ungrateful while she was on Three's Company. Her sky-high demands for money and her no-shows were lousy.
Did you all watch that Three's Company unauthorized movie? It portrayed Suzanne Somer's husband as being the one who got Suzanne to demand more money, more airtime, more this and that. He bluffed the producers. But they didn't take his bluff. They fired Suzanne. Suzanne felt bad. At least that's what the movie showed. I haven't read any books or articles on this, so I guess others might know better.

Janice
08-17-2005, 10:41 PM
Did you all watch that Three's Company unauthorized movie? It portrayed Suzanne Somer's husband as being the one who got Suzanne to demand more money, more airtime, more this and that. He bluffed the producers. But they didn't take his bluff. They fired Suzanne. Suzanne felt bad. At least that's what the movie showed. I haven't read any books or articles on this, so I guess others might know better.
I saw that movie. Still, Suzanne knew what she was doing as she was in her 30s. She's the one who signed her contract and the one who didn't honor it.

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 10:43 PM
yep so true. but to let a man manipulate you like that. Oh well, she went on to Vegas and made alot of $$$$, she also was the spokesperson for that thigh thing. LOL

Mysty Eyes
08-17-2005, 11:24 PM
Jerry O'Connell rarely, if ever, mentions his role as Quinn Mallory in "Sliders."

And though I don't see this one as a sign of being ungrateful, but probably more a sign of embarrassment: Tom Hanks avoids acknowledging "Bosom Buddies."

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 11:26 PM
Jerry O'Connell rarely, if ever, mentions his role as Quinn Mallory in "Sliders."

And though I don't see this one as a sign of being ungrateful, but probably more a sign of embarrassment: Tom Hanks avoids acknowledging "Bosom Buddies."
Really? wow. I loved that show when it was on. You see that's an example of how a role on a t.v. sitcom led to him being a two time Oscar winner.

Mysty Eyes
08-17-2005, 11:28 PM
Really? wow. I loved that show when it was on. You see that's an example of how a role on a t.v. sitcom led to him being a two time Oscar winner.
I don't know if it is an active avoidance, but it rarely is mentioned. It was his start, as far as most of us are aware. You would think there would be quotes or something from him about it, but I have never read any. I liked the show too.

PrettyinPink55
08-17-2005, 11:32 PM
John Stamos--Isn't he embarrased of his Full House days and refuses to do a reunion?

Rene
08-17-2005, 11:33 PM
John Stamos--Isn't he embarrased of his Full House days and refuses to do a reunion?
he said he wouldnt do a reunion episode but he would do a get-together with the cast

Ireneparalegal
08-17-2005, 11:35 PM
Don Adams hates the fact that hes so typecast as Maxwell Smart...gripes that he never got a chance to prove he could be a REAL actor...geez, who wouldnt have loved to trade places with him? :rolleyes:
yeah, especially since he is a very good friend of Hugh Hefner and he visits the mansion FREQUENTLY. I bet he doesn't get mad for the "exposure" there of being Maxwell Smart.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 01:51 AM
I'll get shot for this, but Nancy McKeon and Facts Of Life.

She is so ashamed of that show, even though it was Jo that put her where she is today.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 01:53 AM
another one is Gary Coleman and Diff'rent Strokes.

He refuses to talk about the show in interviews, and the one time he finally decided to cave in, he trashed it. It's not like Gary's done anything of merit post-DS for people to wanna talk to him about, unless he wants "are you still a virgin, Gary?" and "what was it like being the elf in that N'Sync video?" questions.

Ireneparalegal
08-18-2005, 01:55 AM
I'll get shot for this, but Nancy McKeon and Facts Of Life.

She is so ashamed of that show, even though it was Jo that put her where she is today.
OMG!!! r u serious??? What is going on here people!!??? Why then be an actor/actress? I know Nancy didn't appear in the reunion movie (which I didn't like, by the way) but I never heard anything abt her disliking her character. My God, she is such a wonderful actress. When I see her in a movie, I totally forget abt the Jo character. That movie with Lindsay Wagner where Nancy plays a teen who wants her baby back from the adoptive parents. Also that true story of Tracey Thurman. OMG that is an awesome performance. I also loved her in that movie, "The Last Mafia Marriage" with Eric Roberts (i think that's the title). Anyhow, she is so good.

consentida
08-18-2005, 04:42 AM
I think a lot of these people were just afraid of being boxed in and not being able to expand on their abilities as actors. I think I'd feel the same way if someone was judging my abilities by something I did five or ten years ago.

I mean, time goes on. Actors get older and have different experiences under their belts. I'm sure it must be hard trying to make a name for yourself alone instead of being strictly defined by a character you played however many years ago.

It's part of the 'moving on' process. It doesn't necessarily mean they're ungrateful.

Ireneparalegal
08-18-2005, 01:28 PM
Tina Louise will have nothing to do with the character that made her famous.(Ginger, Gilligan's Island) But as I see it who would even know who she is without the Ginger role? :lol: As far as I know she never even came close to fame before or since Gilligan's Island. :rolleyes:
Yeah so true. And yet she appeared on an episode of Roseanne where the family each played a character from Gilligan's Island. Tina Louise played Roseanne. I thought that was so cool.

Rene
08-18-2005, 01:30 PM
ooh topher grace-that 70s show-i understand that he left i guess cause the show kinda sucks now but i read that he didnt even have his final dinner with the cast-he ate alone in his dressing room, i always kinda thought he hated the show

Mikado
08-18-2005, 02:28 PM
Did you all watch that Three's Company unauthorized movie? It portrayed Suzanne Somer's husband as being the one who got Suzanne to demand more money, more airtime, more this and that. He bluffed the producers. But they didn't take his bluff. They fired Suzanne. Suzanne felt bad. At least that's what the movie showed. I haven't read any books or articles on this, so I guess others might know better.
its true, her husband, Canadian talk show host Allan Hamel took over as her manager and the whole "hold out " strategy was HIS ( that'll teach her not to marry her manager :p )...Allan Thicke took over his CTV show and made it the #1 talk show in Canadian history, unfortunately, he left for Hollywood and was replaced by Don Harron, AKA Charlie Farquharson...Charlie was funny, Don wasnt, oh well.

EmoJoe
08-18-2005, 03:16 PM
John Stamos refuses to talk about Full House

Alyssa Milano wants people to forget she was Sam on Who's the Boss?

Nancy McKeon refuses to talk about Facts of Life

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 03:26 PM
Alyssa Milano wants people to forget she was Sam on Who's the Boss?

I didn't know that. I figured she was somewhat proud of her WTB past considering she appeared on Danza's show a few months ago. I doubt she would've gotten Phoebe if she wasn't Sam first.

G-Force Glockstar
08-18-2005, 03:28 PM
Alyssa Milano wants people to forget she was Sam on Who's the Boss?



Why? Is it because she was a lot younger?

dawsongirl
08-18-2005, 03:53 PM
he said he wouldnt do a reunion episode but he would do a get-together with the cast

Yeah...he was on America's Funniest Home Videos when Bob Saget was hosting. They had a mini FH reunion with John, Lori, Candace, Jodi, Andrea, Dave...and maybe someone else was there too.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 03:55 PM
ooh topher grace-that 70s show-i understand that he left i guess cause the show kinda sucks now but i read that he didnt even have his final dinner with the cast-he ate alone in his dressing room, i always kinda thought he hated the show

is Topher ashamed of That 70's Show or did he just feel like he did what he could with the character and it was time to move on? I mean, for instance, Ron Howard left Happy Days after 7 seasons, but while he thought it was time to move on, he still came back for the series finale and a 2-parter during the final season, and he appeared in both the 1992 and 2005 reunion specials. He was not at all ashamed that he was Richie Cunningham, but he left in 1980 because he was ready to go into directing and was tired of the role. But yet he appeared in reunion specials and the sort.

Mr. Television
08-18-2005, 03:59 PM
I do think their's a difference between someone who wants to move on and someone who refuses to acknowledge the role that put him on the map. I also thought I read that Topher was going to appear in the last episode of That 70's Show next spring.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 04:00 PM
Lisa Bonet and The Cosby Show.

We get that she and Bill hate each other, and I don't really blame her. However, the way she constantly snubs anything Cosby related these days gets on my nerves, she wouldn't appear on VIBE in 97 when everyone else reunited, and she didn't do the 2002 special. Granted, her and Bill were never close but you'd figure she'd suck it up for a reunion show. She was always my favorite Huxtable too and I cherished the first season of A Different World because it was an all-Denise show (but I also liked it after she left too) and a Cosby reunion isn't complete without her.

dawsongirl
08-18-2005, 04:04 PM
I guess I don't understand the thinking...these people wanted to be famous, so when their manager/agent calls them up and says, "Hey, I got this TV show" and they agree to go to the audition and then agree to take the role, they should be prepped for the outcome. Any moron should know sitcoms don't always hold up well (even if they are hugely popular in reruns) and might potentially be embarrassing due to the humor or situations. Duh. You wanted to be an actor and presumably you wanted success. So you get success and that leads to other things and then you bitch about what got you there, where you came from, etc. Without that, you'd be a regular nobody living on minimum wage and no one would even care what you think about anything!

Geez...I know of actors who aren't even ashamed of their flops, and yet these people are ashamed of what made them who they are. If you want to break out of the box, beat the stereotype, then prove it. Go out there and actually be a good actor. Some of these people obviously think they're a hell of a lot better than they really are. *coughcoughTinaLouisecoughcough*

felicitylen
08-18-2005, 04:26 PM
Hmmm, not sure. I know I read something abt Sean talking abt the character, but I can't recall. Recently on BEING BOBBY BROWN, Whitney didn't want to sign autographs or have pics taken of her. Bobby on the other hand said something to the effect of being grateful to his fans. Whitney was screaming, "I want to left alone". Then WHY ON EARTH HONEY DID YOU DECIDE TO BECOME FAMOUS???? One could sing without becoming famous. She could have sung in nightclubs, karaoke bars, etc.


If I remember correctly, Whitney have always been that way. She rarely did any interviews or sign autographs or anything like that.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 04:51 PM
If I remember correctly, Whitney have always been that way. She rarely did any interviews or sign autographs or anything like that.

well, Whitney pretended that she had class when she first hit the scene in the 1980's, then in the mid-90's after she married Bobby Brown she started developing a nasty diva reputation.

It's sad how far she's fallen from grace. I have faith that Janet and Madonna can still come back with a good album much like Mariah has, but Whitney seems like she's beyond repair.

Bang A Gong
08-18-2005, 05:46 PM
David Duchovny and The X-Files.

I used to be a devoted X-Files fan a few years ago, and a lot of stuff was happening with David. He went from loving his work on the series to just wanting out. I'm not exactly sure what went on, but he just didn't want to do it anymore and was saying that he got screwed when it came to getting his fair share of profits. He was absent from a numerous amount of episodes. He just seemed to be annoyed with doing the show, like he thought maybe he was too good to be playing Fox Mulder. It always really pissed me off.

And someone also mentioned earlier in this thread about Sarah Michelle Gellar snubbing Buffy. She was so ungrateful for her Buffy fame. Did she even appear at one convention? She just seemed to think she was above the show. :rolleyes:

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 06:31 PM
well, Duchovney is signed on to appear in a new X-Files movie, so he isn't that ungrateful. I think the reason he left when he did was because his wife had just given birth and he wanted to spend a lot of time around his kid, which you really can't find fault with.

EmoJoe
08-18-2005, 06:31 PM
I didn't know that. I figured she was somewhat proud of her WTB past considering she appeared on Danza's show a few months ago. I doubt she would've gotten Phoebe if she wasn't Sam first.
Yeah, she refused to be in a reunion about a year ago and most people were surprised when she was on Tony's show.

Ireneparalegal
08-18-2005, 07:36 PM
Another ungrateful actress is LISA BONET. I can't stand her anyhow, but I despise her even more for being ungrateful. As a matter of fact, the actress who played her maternal grandmother said on "E! True Hollywood Story" used the word "ungrateful" to describe Lisa's attitude abt her job on the show. She went on and on abt the faces she made, as if she was DOING THE SHOW A FAVOR for even being there.

Mikado
08-18-2005, 10:23 PM
Frankly, if i was John Stamos or Tom Hanks, id prefer to forget about "Full House" and "Bosom Buddies" too!!! :crazy:

Ireneparalegal
08-18-2005, 10:54 PM
well, Whitney pretended that she had class when she first hit the scene in the 1980's, then in the mid-90's after she married Bobby Brown she started developing a nasty diva reputation.

It's sad how far she's fallen from grace. I have faith that Janet and Madonna can still come back with a good album much like Mariah has, but Whitney seems like she's beyond repair.
That's how I feel. I really began despising her when I saw her on t.v. talking to Diane Sawyer. "Crack is whack" "I make tooooo much money to smoke crack". What kind of asinine comments are those????? Okay, so she makes alot of money, she must snort coke then. I really despise her now seeing her on her hubby's show. She is just freakin' weird!!!! How she let herself go, I will never understand.

Dean Winchester
08-18-2005, 11:15 PM
That's how I feel. I really began despising her when I saw her on t.v. talking to Diane Sawyer. "Crack is whack" "I make tooooo much money to smoke crack". What kind of asinine comments are those????? Okay, so she makes alot of money, she must snort coke then. I really despise her now seeing her on her hubby's show. She is just freakin' weird!!!! How she let herself go, I will never understand.

do you remember when Whitney lost it and went off on radio talk show host Wendy Williams? it was brilliant, I had to download it as an mp3 to hear what the buzz was about and it was worth it.

TheGreatPretender
08-18-2005, 11:51 PM
Alyssa Milano, Susan Dey, Nancy McKeon, but than again they were the teeny actors of their day and didn't do anything really amazing except for -Alyssa Milano- kinda but they should be greatful anyways.

TheGreatPretender
08-18-2005, 11:53 PM
Yeah, she refused to be in a reunion about a year ago and most people were surprised when she was on Tony's show.
I was a little creeped out how he knew the answers about her life better than Alyssa. But it was most likely staged.

Rene
08-19-2005, 12:20 AM
I was a little creeped out how he knew the answers about her life better than Alyssa. But it was most likely staged.
i know-that was weird

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
08-19-2005, 12:40 AM
Robert Reed sticks out in my mind. He tried whatever he could to find fault in the show and to get out of it. He wasnt even in the last episode because of the tension between him and Sherwood.

Karen*
08-19-2005, 12:44 AM
Jaleel White has said that he wouldn't want to play Steve Urkel again (In Family Matters).

Rene
08-19-2005, 01:41 AM
Jaleel White has said that he wouldn't want to play Steve Urkel again (In Family Matters).
i understand that

rusyd
08-19-2005, 01:46 AM
Robert Reed sticks out in my mind. He tried whatever he could to find fault in the show and to get out of it. He wasnt even in the last episode because of the tension between him and Sherwood.


Yes, I read that somewhere. He was a dramatic actor before taking the part in The BradyBunch. One has to wonder what he was thinking?

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 02:04 PM
Vanity (aka Denise Matthews) of Prince and Vanity 6 fame.

I know drugs messed her up bad, but now she acts like "Vanity" never should've existed. She is now born-again, and claims she never did want to do the "Vanity" stuff to start with and she says she hates all of the songs she sang and the movies she made. Face it, in old footage she looks like she is enjoying every minute of it. In an old American Bandstand clip she is all flirty with Dick Clark and she tells DC to touch her tight gold pants she was wearing. Well, it was okay until the drugs nearly killed her. If she didn't like it why didn't she stop earlier?

She claims she doesn't like to be reminded of her past, but yet she peddles herself to churches to speak about her past. Doesn't make sense. She won't sign any Vanity pictures/memorabilia today and apologizes for "corrupting" the minds of children with her unholy acts she once did. Please! Britney Spears and Christina A. has done worse stuff!!!

If Denise Matthews wasn't Vanity the Nasty Girl , then nobody would know who she was, and she wouldn't be able to sell herself today as an evangelist.

Gizmo1
08-19-2005, 02:36 PM
Alyssa Milano, Susan Dey, Nancy McKeon, but than again they were the teeny actors of their day and didn't do anything really amazing except for -Alyssa Milano- kinda but they should be greatful anyways.

I dont really think these "tween" actresses really want to forget their characters that made them, but many were pre-pubesent and probably want to forget the tough times of growing up on camera and going through those changes in front of so many viewers.

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Jodie Foster doesn't hardly give autographs, and I heard if somebody does recognize her in public, she will deny it. She will tell people she is mistaken for Jodie Foster alot. It could be a big security issue too because of the John Hinckley thing from way back. I can understand if a celebrity is more laid back, but for Jodie to actually deny fans an autograph is unreal. Get over your egos, Hollywood.

Ireneparalegal
08-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Vanity (aka Denise Matthews) of Prince and Vanity 6 fame.

I know drugs messed her up bad, but now she acts like "Vanity" never should've existed. She is now born-again, and claims she never did want to do the "Vanity" stuff to start with and she says she hates all of the songs she sang and the movies she made. Face it, in old footage she looks like she is enjoying every minute of it. In an old American Bandstand clip she is all flirty with Dick Clark and she tells DC to touch her tight gold pants she was wearing. Well, it was okay until the drugs nearly killed her. If she didn't like it why didn't she stop earlier?

She claims she doesn't like to be reminded of her past, but yet she peddles herself to churches to speak about her past. Doesn't make sense. She won't sign any Vanity pictures/memorabilia today and apologizes for "corrupting" the minds of children with her unholy acts she once did. Please! Britney Spears and Christina A. has done worse stuff!!!

If Denise Matthews wasn't Vanity the Nasty Girl , then nobody would know who she was, and she wouldn't be able to sell herself today as an evangelist.
As far as Denise, from what I understand she is totally embarrassed of her past. She is now into religion and preaching. I think she would rather be an unknown evangelist than an evangelist who once was "Vanity". There's a difference between being ungrateful and being embarrassed. Why would Gary Coleman be embarrassed? No, just pure ungratefulness. Robert Reed wanted to do dramatics, but then why do a sitcom???? doesn't make sense.

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 03:21 PM
I still believe Denise wishes she could still act and sing. Let's see, she was still Vanity in the early to mid 90's. She wasn't so hot anymore, an job offers were getting extremely scarce. I think some of her last jobs in the 90's were singing at Atlantic City casinos. She would've been in her 30's and just a little old to be singing those songs from the 80's.

I think back in 83-84 when she left the Prince camp, she should've changed her name back then and cleaned up her image. She could done cleaner dance music that could've received more airplay and could've even charted a lot higher. She could've made herself open to respectable film roles because she did have the looks and talent I believe. She was still a young woman yet. I think if she did that back then,she could've proven that she could've done real stuff without the sex image. She could've had a comfortable and enjoyable career yet today.

I still can't help thinking she is a little judging. She tells people they should not like Vanity and Vanity's music and filmwork. However, I WOULD be embarrassed if I did a movie called Tanya's Island. :lol:

Ireneparalegal
08-19-2005, 08:54 PM
It seems alot of Prince's "women" and I only mean the ones he had sexual relationships with, ended up regretting being with him. Carmen Electra said he made her go to sleep in make-up and made sure she looked as good when she woke up. I know, getting off the track here, but I think music was not meant for her. She really wasn't that good, just good to look at. Her voice was mixed with alot of the musical instruments, but I don't think she could really sing well enough to go solo and have hit albums. She is leading a better life. Why??? Because she is happy now. That's all that matters to her. Gonna change the subject. don't know if any of you see commercials with Gary Coleman that I see here in my state. He is a spokesperson for CASH CALL. It's a place that gives you $$$$ to loan (with high interest rates) he mentions in the commercial how he understands what it's like to not have $$$$ when you need it. LOL

Dean Winchester
08-19-2005, 09:43 PM
I still can't help thinking she is a little judging. She tells people they should not like Vanity and Vanity's music and filmwork. However, I WOULD be embarrassed if I did a movie called Tanya's Island. :lol:

I agree, I don't care. I still like Pretty Mess, Nasty Girl and Drive Me Wild even if she herself doesn't want me to, lol.

Dean Winchester
08-19-2005, 09:46 PM
I also liked "Vibrator", I wonder if Denise would break into that one if you asked her to, lol

Ireneparalegal
08-19-2005, 09:47 PM
I only like Nasty Girl. What the hell did Vanity 6 mean anyways? I know Vanity was her name but what did the 6 mean????? crazy

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 10:10 PM
I only like Nasty Girl. What the hell did Vanity 6 mean anyways? I know Vanity was her name but what did the 6 mean????? crazy

Hmmm....we probably don't really want to know! :crazy:

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 10:22 PM
This is probably going back in the Time Machine a bit, but I think Greta Garbo was probably the original Hollywood Diva.

She was supposed to be very shy and reclusive, but I sense a little snootiness too on her part. I don't think she ever attended her premieres (even her own movies), never showed up at parties, and stood up actor John Gilbert when they were gonna be married.

I think she only gave one public interview. She allowed reporters to ask her questions for 15 minutes in a lobby someplace and then she left. The public was so crazy to see their reclusive idol in public that a little girl got shoved around a lot in the crowd. She made a scrapbook of Greta pictures and Greta signed the book for the little girl. That was the only time she signed an autograph in public. She would never sign autographs for anyone, it didn't matter who they were. She said she hated her writing and didn't understand why anybody would want it. Even today many autograph dealers will not look for Garbo signatures because they just don't exist.

She would never talk about the movies, and if you asked her something about them she pretty much cut off further contact with you. She never really watched her cared about her old movies at all. She went by fake names and people knew who she was. She would talk to you if you called her things like "Miss Brown", but if you goofed and called her Greta or Ms. Garbo in public she cut you off. She refused to discuss her life, her background, and everything. Even those precious few close to her had to watch what they said and did around her.

She never read fan mail or accepted presents her fans sent her. I think she hired people to throw most of it all out. She even kept her Oscar in a closet because "it meant nothing." I do think she may have had a little bit of a mental problem too.

She was a fantastic actress. I have all of her movies, even all of her early silents.

seventies_sitcoms
08-19-2005, 10:31 PM
I agree, I don't care. I still like Pretty Mess, Nasty Girl and Drive Me Wild even if she herself doesn't want me to, lol.

I like Animals too. It sounds a like a total Prince rip-off. "A-N-I-M-A-L-S!"

Mikado
08-19-2005, 11:50 PM
but for Jodie to actually deny fans an autograph is unreal. .
Actually, I have no problem with that, autographs should be a privelege to fans not a right, and at the stars discretion if they want / dont want to give them out

Ireneparalegal
08-20-2005, 12:55 AM
By the way, my daughter was telling that the reason Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn't do conventions and other things is because she had a stalker at one point. Probably more. My daughter said something abt Sarah being scared to meet "the fans" because she wouldn't know who might be there to harm her. This may be why she seems "ungrateful". Don't know,just passing info my daughter told me.

Dean Winchester
08-20-2005, 01:52 AM
By the way, my daughter was telling that the reason Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn't do conventions and other things is because she had a stalker at one point. Probably more. My daughter said something abt Sarah being scared to meet "the fans" because she wouldn't know who might be there to harm her. This may be why she seems "ungrateful". Don't know,just passing info my daughter told me.

Sarah's "diva" reputation goes back to her All My Children days, and that was a decade ago

Ireneparalegal
08-20-2005, 02:02 AM
This is probably going back in the Time Machine a bit, but I think Greta Garbo was probably the original Hollywood Diva.

She was supposed to be very shy and reclusive, but I sense a little snootiness too on her part. I don't think she ever attended her premieres (even her own movies), never showed up at parties, and stood up actor John Gilbert when they were gonna be married.

I think she only gave one public interview. She allowed reporters to ask her questions for 15 minutes in a lobby someplace and then she left. The public was so crazy to see their reclusive idol in public that a little girl got shoved around a lot in the crowd. She made a scrapbook of Greta pictures and Greta signed the book for the little girl. That was the only time she signed an autograph in public. She would never sign autographs for anyone, it didn't matter who they were. She said she hated her writing and didn't understand why anybody would want it. Even today many autograph dealers will not look for Garbo signatures because they just don't exist.

She would never talk about the movies, and if you asked her something about them she pretty much cut off further contact with you. She never really watched her cared about her old movies at all. She went by fake names and people knew who she was. She would talk to you if you called her things like "Miss Brown", but if you goofed and called her Greta or Ms. Garbo in public she cut you off. She refused to discuss her life, her background, and everything. Even those precious few close to her had to watch what they said and did around her.

She never read fan mail or accepted presents her fans sent her. I think she hired people to throw most of it all out. She even kept her Oscar in a closet because "it meant nothing." I do think she may have had a little bit of a mental problem too.

She was a fantastic actress. I have all of her movies, even all of her early silents.
Very interesting story. Loved reading it. Did you hear the one abt Greta when she went into the bank? She said: "I vant to get a loan". LOL :lol:

Rene
08-20-2005, 02:49 AM
i just saw the girl who played morgan on boy meets worlds myspace and she said that she hates "stupid people that bring up boy meeys world"

Ireneparalegal
08-20-2005, 02:50 AM
i just saw the girl who played morgan on boy meets worlds myspace and she said that she hates "stupid people that bring up boy meeys world"
What a witch!!!!!!! :mad:

Mr. Television
08-20-2005, 02:55 AM
i just saw the girl who played morgan on boy meets worlds myspace and she said that she hates "stupid people that bring up boy meeys world"


Was that Morgan #1 or Morgan #2?

Rene
08-20-2005, 02:59 AM
#2

Superstar
08-20-2005, 08:15 AM
i just saw the girl who played morgan on boy meets worlds myspace and she said that she hates "stupid people that bring up boy meeys world"
are you sure it was really her?

seventies_sitcoms
08-20-2005, 11:42 AM
Sarah's "diva" reputation goes back to her All My Children days, and that was a decade ago

I'll bet it started back with that Burger King commercial!!

seventies_sitcoms
08-20-2005, 11:46 AM
Very interesting story. Loved reading it. Did you hear the one abt Greta when she went into the bank? She said: "I vant to get a loan". LOL :lol:

:clown:

Ireneparalegal
08-20-2005, 03:34 PM
John Lennon was great to his fans. He loved being in New York because he could walk around and be himself and sometimes be left alone. Other times he was happy to take pics and give autographs. So sad.

cralappyhappy4
08-21-2005, 02:11 AM
John Stamos refuses to talk about Full House

Alyssa Milano wants people to forget she was Sam on Who's the Boss?

Nancy McKeon refuses to talk about Facts of Life


she was on the who's the boss? hour on the tony danza show so she must not regret it that much

Ireneparalegal
08-21-2005, 02:20 AM
i want to forget abt Alyssa Milano PERIOD!!!! Can't stand her. She has permission to disappear. I don't blame her for wanting to forget Who's the Boss. I wish they didn't have her on there.

Rene
08-21-2005, 02:22 AM
are you sure it was really her?

yea
1. there are no posers of her
2.her friends commented on her page
3. she has pics that no poser can get anyway
4. she put that she goes to UCR-which i know for a fact cause my cousin goes there and since she hasnt done any movies/shows since bmw nobody would know she goes there

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 02:47 AM
i want to forget abt Alyssa Milano PERIOD!!!! Can't stand her. She has permission to disappear. I don't blame her for wanting to forget Who's the Boss. I wish they didn't have her on there.

I dislike her, but for a different reason. She had Shannen Doherty fired from Charmed and Charmed was never the same after Shannen left IMO.

Mr. Television
08-21-2005, 02:49 AM
I dislike her, but for a different reason. She had Shannen Doherty fired from Charmed and Charmed was never the same after Shannen left IMO.


I agree with you about that.

Superstar
08-21-2005, 04:14 AM
yea
1. there are no posers of her
2.her friends commented on her page
3. she has pics that no poser can get anyway
4. she put that she goes to UCR-which i know for a fact cause my cousin goes there and since she hasnt done any movies/shows since bmw nobody would know she goes there
wow.

Superstar
08-21-2005, 04:15 AM
I dislike her, but for a different reason. She had Shannen Doherty fired from Charmed and Charmed was never the same after Shannen left IMO.
was actually Alyssa that ot Shannen fired? I've heard alot of stories about it, and I've also heard that Shannen went to the producers and made them choose between Alyssa and her.

Christopher
08-21-2005, 02:49 PM
was actually Alyssa that ot Shannen fired? I've heard alot of stories about it, and I've also heard that Shannen went to the producers and made them choose between Alyssa and her.



Either way, Alyssa screwed up a great show for many fans. Shannen took Charmed seriously as where Alyssa used it to show off more of her body. And with that hair cut of hers, I can't understand why people would want to see her take her clothes off. She looked like an ugly man. She should have left her hair like she had it during the second season.


By the way, my daughter was telling that the reason Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn't do conventions and other things is because she had a stalker at one point. Probably more. My daughter said something abt Sarah being scared to meet "the fans" because she wouldn't know who might be there to harm her. This may be why she seems "ungrateful". Don't know,just passing info my daughter told me.


I used to be a big Sarah fan years ago and I never heard anything about this. She's just a snob is why she doesn't do anything related to Buffy anymore. She feels she is too good of an actress now and would rather forget all about Buffy. I think she needs to get her head out of her ass and realize if it wasn't for Buffy she would never had been the star she is today. And her husband is just as worse as her. Apparently he controls Sarah and decides what projects she will be doing from now on.

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 02:59 PM
I think she needs to get her head out of her ass and realize if it wasn't for Buffy she would never had been the star she is today. And her husband is just as worse as her. Apparently he controls Sarah and decides what projects she will be doing from now on.

funniest thing is, I don't think it was a fluke why The Grudge was Sarah's most successful movie where she was the star (I think Scooby would've been big with or without her), I think part of the draw of it was because Sarah was doing a pic in the genre we love her for. I went to see it opening day and so did a lot of other Buffy fans I know.

I don't see why Sarah can't be like William Shatner, who continued to do Trek movies alongside "other" projects ala TJ Hooker, etc.... and he never felt shame. Buffy is the type of story that is ripe for a film franchise (not counting the Kristy Swanson movie) and the characters made the successful transition from high-schoolers to adults.

Dr. Thong
08-21-2005, 03:02 PM
I used to be a big Sarah fan years ago and I never heard anything about this. She's just a snob is why she doesn't do anything related to Buffy anymore. She feels she is too good of an actress now and would rather forget all about Buffy. I think she needs to get her head out of her ass and realize if it wasn't for Buffy she would never had been the star she is today. And her husband is just as worse as her. Apparently he controls Sarah and decides what projects she will be doing from now on.

Then she's getting bad advice, because Freddie Prinze Jr. is now resorting to doing a sitcom. Apparently his movie career has tanked and you haven't seen much of Sarah Michelle either lately.

L&OFan4Eva
08-21-2005, 03:09 PM
I think what SMG's doing is just stupid and ridiculous. And Freddie can go shove it too. I know if I were on Buffy, I would go to every convention, say it on every interview show, hell I'd even wear a shirt that reads "Hell Yeah, I Was on Buffy". I think Sarah sould eat some humble pie. And Alyssa Milano can go to Hell too.

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 03:21 PM
I think what SMG's doing is just stupid and ridiculous. And Freddie can go shove it too. I know if I were on Buffy, I would go to every convention, say it on every interview show, hell I'd even wear a shirt that reads "Hell Yeah, I Was on Buffy". I think Sarah sould eat some humble pie. And Alyssa Milano can go to Hell too.

I agree, I'd say Alyson Hannigan's had as much big-screen success as SMG and she's NEVER been ashamed to say she was Willow. Even Seth Green, who left Buffy years before it ended for a film career and has had a lot of success, still takes pride that he played Oz.

After the series finale of Buffy wrapped, they had a "goodbye Buffy" party. Everyone from the show showed up, even people like Seth Green and Amber Benson who left before the show ended, but despite everyone who showed up, one key Buffy cast member didn't. Care to guess which one didn't show up for the wrap party for her own series? lol

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 03:22 PM
isn't it pretty fitting that a thread about Ungrateful actors and actresses becomes a Sarah Michelle Gellar thread? lol.

L&OFan4Eva
08-21-2005, 03:28 PM
Because SMG is the poster child of ungrateful actors/actresses. She phoned in season 7 (and even a little bit of season 6).

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 03:43 PM
another one is Jennifer Aniston

it's so obvious the reason she ended Friends (the others were considering an 11th season but she was all "hell will freeze over") was because she thought she was set for life being the wife of Brad Pitt, and then that fell apart not even a year later. However, now she thinks she's above doing a Friends retrospective special ala Seinfeld or the sort. Come on, she's had a little success in film but almost always as the "girlfriend" character, The Good Girl was her only leading role that was a hit. She is hardly the Tom Hanks/Denzel Washington type to proclaim being above the medium that made them a star.

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 05:24 PM
another one that L&OFan4Eva and myself were discussing was Jimmie "J.J." Walker. We already knew that he hated Esther Rolle, but he has a personal webpage where he bashed two of his co-stars (Ralph Carter and Janet Jackson). As stuck-up as SMG is, you've never seen her publically trash Alyson Hannigan or James Marsters.

ABlairican Pie
08-21-2005, 06:23 PM
How about Max Baer, Jr. from Beverly Hillbillies? He hated his role as Jethro.

Bang A Gong
08-21-2005, 06:24 PM
well, Duchovney is signed on to appear in a new X-Files movie, so he isn't that ungrateful. I think the reason he left when he did was because his wife had just given birth and he wanted to spend a lot of time around his kid, which you really can't find fault with.
Wanting to spend time with his newborn child? How dare he? That is such a crime. ;)

There were things going on behind the show. There was the aforementioned lawsuit that he filed because he claimed he was given the short end of the stick when it came to getting his fair share of profits.

But it isn't just that. He seemed to run hot and cold with the show. He enjoyed doing his work on the show at one point, then he just didn't want to anymore, and I don't think the sole reason he wanted to leave was because of Téa and their new child. It was as though he just wanted out, like he turned his back on the fans, got bored of playing Mulder. I never heard that he signed on to do a new X-Files movie, so that is news to me. Maybe he is greatful now, or maybe they offered him a huge chunk of money (not like he really needs it though.) But what I'm saying is, he seemed ungreatful at one point in time.

I also find it rather amusing that one Sarah Michelle Gellar has been brought up quite often in this thread. L&OFan4Eva was right - she is the poster child for ungreatful actors/actresses. A sad thing, really.

Southern Hellraiser
08-21-2005, 06:24 PM
I think Lisa Bonet would be 1 of them.

Central Perk
08-21-2005, 07:24 PM
another one is Jennifer Aniston

it's so obvious the reason she ended Friends (the others were considering an 11th season but she was all "hell will freeze over") was because she thought she was set for life being the wife of Brad Pitt, and then that fell apart not even a year later. However, now she thinks she's above doing a Friends retrospective special ala Seinfeld or the sort. Come on, she's had a little success in film but almost always as the "girlfriend" character, The Good Girl was her only leading role that was a hit. She is hardly the Tom Hanks/Denzel Washington type to proclaim being above the medium that made them a star.

Well if another season was being considered and it was because of Jennifer that it didn't happen then I'd like to thank her. Friends ended at the right time and I don't see anything wrong with wanting to do movies. I've never seen her badmouth Friends and she's still great friends with Courteney Cox. She also does have a bunch of movies coming out so time will tell if she really is a movie star or not.

Dean Winchester
08-21-2005, 07:34 PM
Well if another season was being considered and it was because of Jennifer that it didn't happen then I'd like to thank her. Friends ended at the right time and I don't see anything wrong with wanting to do movies. I've never seen her badmouth Friends and she's still great friends with Courteney Cox. She also does have a bunch of movies coming out so time will tell if she really is a movie star or not.

it's that she thinks she's too big of a star to "resort" to a Friends retrospective, as if she's suddenly too good for Friends. If it wasn't for Friends, Leprechaun would be the highlight of Aniston's career. She owes everything to that show and acting like she's too good for do a retrospective shows that she has probably been hanging around Lisa Bonet and Sarah Michelle Gellar too much, lol.

Ireneparalegal
08-21-2005, 11:10 PM
another one is Jennifer Aniston

it's so obvious the reason she ended Friends (the others were considering an 11th season but she was all "hell will freeze over") was because she thought she was set for life being the wife of Brad Pitt, and then that fell apart not even a year later. However, now she thinks she's above doing a Friends retrospective special ala Seinfeld or the sort. Come on, she's had a little success in film but almost always as the "girlfriend" character, The Good Girl was her only leading role that was a hit. She is hardly the Tom Hanks/Denzel Washington type to proclaim being above the medium that made them a star.
Yeah, she may end up like Shelly Long. Remember that fiasco, leaving Cheers to do movies. Yep, how long did that last?

Superstar
08-22-2005, 04:09 AM
Well if another season was being considered and it was because of Jennifer that it didn't happen then I'd like to thank her. Friends ended at the right time and I don't see anything wrong with wanting to do movies. I've never seen her badmouth Friends and she's still great friends with Courteney Cox. She also does have a bunch of movies coming out so time will tell if she really is a movie star or not.
I agree.

Ireneparalegal
08-22-2005, 11:16 AM
To be honest, I don't really care for Jen Aniston. I don't see the big "deal" with her. I didn't care for Friends either, but I don't think Jennifer was the only person on that show. It kind of takes away from the other actors who were on there.

Dean Winchester
08-22-2005, 01:12 PM
to clarify:

Jennifer Aniston's not on the list because Friends ended, but because she has this "I'm too big to even appear on a Friends retrospective that might take two hours out of my time" attitude. She needs to realize the ensemble made Friends, not her.

Rene
08-22-2005, 01:20 PM
Yea i guess jen. A is kinda ungrateful oh and another person is david boreanez-he seemed to phone in the last season and rarely goes to conventions while james marsters is very grateful of joss whedon(creator of angel) oh and buffyslayer did you hear what smg said a while ago about not liking to work on the show and then she said "well i can say this now that i dont work with joss anymore" i thought that was sooo rude

spunkygirl
08-22-2005, 01:34 PM
I didn't know that. I figured she was somewhat proud of her WTB past considering she appeared on Danza's show a few months ago. I doubt she would've gotten Phoebe if she wasn't Sam first

I think alot of it with Alyssa & WTB is that she was embarassed by the show, but I've never heard her say she didn't like her time on it, I mean the show made her a star, but I think recently she's accepted that she will most likely be forever be remembered as Sam Micelli


Also regarding Robert Reed, I read that years before he died that he had accepted that he would be forever known as Mike Brady.

Regarding Sarah Michelle Gellar, I'm sorry but she's an ungrateful b*tch. She wouldn't even appear on the final episode of Angel when David Boreanaz asked her too, she thought she was above, and I guess from what I've read she ticked off David and alot of fans by doing that.



Another ungrateful star is Leonardo DiCaprio I heard recently that he dissed his time on Growing Pains, that show basically made him get noticed :rolleyes:

Dean Winchester
08-22-2005, 01:41 PM
I think alot of it with Alyssa & WTB is that she was embarassed by the show, but I've never heard her say she didn't like her time on it, I mean the show made her a star, but I think recently she's accepted that she will most likely be forever be remembered as Sam Micelli


Also regarding Robert Reed, I read that years before he died that he had accepted that he would be forever known as Mike Brady.

Regarding Sarah Michelle Gellar, I'm sorry but she's an ungrateful b*tch. She wouldn't even appear on the final episode of Angel when David Boreanaz asked her too, she thought she was above, and I guess from what I've read she ticked off David and alot of fans by doing that.

Another ungrateful star is Leonardo DiCaprio I heard recently that he dissed his time on Growing Pains, that show basically made him get noticed :rolleyes:

I agree about Robert Reed, if he was that ungrateful and ashamed of the Bradys, he would've never done all those reunion series' and specials. Sure he probably wished he was taken more seriously as an actor but he obviously made peace with Mike Brady since he reprised the role in 1977, 1981, 1988 and 1990.

I think you're half-right with Alyssa, I think she's got the Michael Landon/Ron Howard type of TV career that she's equally remembered as Sam and as Phoebe, WTB and Charmed largely appeal to different types of audiences so she's been able to establish herself as both characters IMO, sorta like how Ron Howard is both Opie and Richie depending on the person you ask.

Boreanez did basically call SMG an ungrateful bitch when Angel was ending for not appearing on it. Actually, she was supposed to appear in the third-to-last episode but was available to do the finale, but however, Joss Whedon didn't want to disrespect fans of Angel by making the series finale all about Buffy (sorta like Angel was only in the Buffy finale for about five minutes at the beginning). Alyson Hannigan also called her a bitch in not-so-many-words when she was promoting American Wedding. Apparently Sarah didn't even have the decency to tell her co-stars she was leaving after the seventh season and none of SMG's co-stars found out until they saw the Entertainment Weekly magazine which proclaimed "Buffy Quits".

spunkygirl
08-22-2005, 01:46 PM
I haven't like SMG in a long time, when I heard that she used to fight with Susan Lucci, I guess SMG thought she was the star of AMC over Susan :rolleyes:

Dean Winchester
08-22-2005, 01:52 PM
oh and buffyslayer did you hear what smg said a while ago about not liking to work on the show and then she said "well i can say this now that i dont work with joss anymore" i thought that was sooo rude

if it wasn't for Joss Whedon, SMG would just been another washed-up soap star who left too soon because she thought she was hot, I know she left AMC as soon as she won the Emmy because she thought she was a star.

spunkygirl
08-22-2005, 01:56 PM
Yep she sure did, plus I think the current actress who is now playing Kendall Hart on AMC is much better than SMG ever was and alot of people agree with me :)

No one's mentioned Kirk Cameron, isn't he basically ashamed of his time on Growing Pains?

Dean Winchester
08-22-2005, 02:02 PM
No one's mentioned Kirk Cameron, isn't he basically ashamed of his time on Growing Pains?

I know Kirk's all evangelical Christian now, so he probably hates the character of Mike Seaver being :::gasp::: a regular teenage boy in the early seasons. But considering he met his wife on the set and that he's come back for two reunions, I doubt he's ashamed of it.

Dean Winchester
08-22-2005, 02:07 PM
would Eddie Murphy count for SNL? I remember several years ago when the SNL-25 special aired, EVERY major living SNL cast member was there with the exception of him. It's as if Eddie forgot that SNL was what turned him into a star before film. The last time he hosted was in 1984 when Beverly Hills Cop came out, so there's been 21 years of opportunities to come back and he's never done so.

spunkygirl
08-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Does Will Smith count? Since he's hit it big in movies, I don't ever remember him mentioning his tv show

TJL
08-22-2005, 02:50 PM
One actress I can think of is Terry Farrell.

She left "Deep Space Nine" at the end of the sixth season because of a contract dispute instead of staying around for the show's seventh and final season.

Then she moved over to a co-starring role on "Becker," but was booted off that show because of contract disputes. I also remember she and some others staged a "sick out" at one point because of some money issues.

Of course my assesment could be wrong, if anyone else knows the story as to why she left both shows, please clarify.

Steve M.
08-22-2005, 03:22 PM
The actress who played Jan (Eve Plumb) on the Brady Bunch is another example who resents her fame as Jan.


Can you blame her? :lol:

Steve M.
08-22-2005, 03:24 PM
I don't think Pierce Brosnan is ungrateful. He can't be James Bond forever. Plus, those movies haven't been good in 25 years anyway. What about the one guy who was James Bond in one movie and quit. Pierce was James Bond for 10 years and starred in four movies. He played it out and they waited along time to decide if they wanted to keep him or not.

The only people I think are ungrateful are those that sign on for movies that are most likely to get a sequel and then refuse to do so. The Batman movies come to mind.


Do you realize that, at 50, Pierce Brosnan is younger than Roger Moore was when he made his last Bond movie? Brosnan has a right to be ungrateful - he's a victim of age discrimination! :mad:

Steve M.
08-22-2005, 03:31 PM
Someone might have already mentioned it, but Billy Crystal isn't too fond of the fact that he played the first gay character in sitcom history on Soap. Free Jessica Tate? Free Jodie Dallas! Come out of the closet, Billy - you played a guy who dates guys! (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

TVJunkie101
08-22-2005, 04:02 PM
Robert Reed did seem pretty ungrateful for his time on "The Brady Bunch." He desperately wanted to be taken as a serious actor (so why take the role in the first place, IMHO?). But, frankly, I think he overcame it. I doubt he was ever grateful that the show made him a well-known name, but at least he overcame it and was very close with all the cast. I think because of his closeness with the cast, that is the only reason he even came back for the TV-movies and reunions. That takes a big person to do that. A lot of actors/actresses refuse to even consider any of the things Reed did because of their intense dislike for something that made them famous, and in turn, it hurts the cast you probably spent years with. Eve Plumb is the same way. One could even say Maureen McCormick. Both were hot and cold. One minute they wanted to reunite with the cast, the next minute they didn't, LOL.

Everyone gave great examples (Lisa Bonet, Max Baer JR., Sarah Michelle Gellar).

I think Will Smith is great, but I don't think he ever acknownledges "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air".

Larry Hagman resented his time on "I Dream of Jeannie" but was always close with Barbara Eden. He's over that now, I imagine. But he is very proud of "Dallas".

TVJunkie101
08-22-2005, 09:52 PM
Yeah, I agree about Will Smith. I'm actually REALLY getting back into Fresh Prince again. I've always liked it.

Will Smith is a great actor, but he should be appreciative of his tv show because there's no telling if he'd be as popular today. I think he would, but still ...

I don't think he's ever really tried to ignore it (in an obvious way) but for some weird reason, he's just never associated with it. I never read or hear him mention it. It's odd. Just like John Travolta and Welcome Back Kotter as well as Tom Hanks and Bosom Buddies (but aren't he and Peter Scolari good friends in real life?). Both are great, nice guys, but yet they seem to ignore their television pasts and what REALLY made them famous. Sure they're great actors but it was their TV exposure that put them on the map, IMO.

spunkygirl
08-22-2005, 09:54 PM
Yeah from what I've read Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari are best friends, and that Tom tries to put Peter in as many of his movies as he can :)

I think with Tom, John and Will it's just that their shows never really get brought up when people talk to them.

TVJunkie101
08-22-2005, 10:13 PM
Yeah, I agree. I wasn't saying Tom, John and Will were ungrateful. But their shows really do never seem to be brought up in talks with them. It's strange, LOL.

Pitooey
08-22-2005, 10:29 PM
Can you blame her? :lol::lol: I thought she was a cutie. :lol:

Ireneparalegal
08-23-2005, 12:25 AM
Eddie Murphy counts. He should have been there for the reunion show. He is in the process of a divorce; guess he is an ungrateful husband too. LOL

LadyBee
08-23-2005, 12:53 PM
A few years ago, I either saw or read an interview in which Morgan Freeman dissed 'Electric Company'. I'm sorry I don't remember what he said, but I found it peculiar since many people love that show.

dawsongirl
08-23-2005, 04:27 PM
This is probably going back in the Time Machine a bit, but I think Greta Garbo was probably the original Hollywood Diva.

She was supposed to be very shy and reclusive, but I sense a little snootiness too on her part. I don't think she ever attended her premieres (even her own movies), never showed up at parties, and stood up actor John Gilbert when they were gonna be married.

I think she only gave one public interview. She allowed reporters to ask her questions for 15 minutes in a lobby someplace and then she left. The public was so crazy to see their reclusive idol in public that a little girl got shoved around a lot in the crowd. She made a scrapbook of Greta pictures and Greta signed the book for the little girl. That was the only time she signed an autograph in public. She would never sign autographs for anyone, it didn't matter who they were. She said she hated her writing and didn't understand why anybody would want it. Even today many autograph dealers will not look for Garbo signatures because they just don't exist.

She would never talk about the movies, and if you asked her something about them she pretty much cut off further contact with you. She never really watched her cared about her old movies at all. She went by fake names and people knew who she was. She would talk to you if you called her things like "Miss Brown", but if you goofed and called her Greta or Ms. Garbo in public she cut you off. She refused to discuss her life, her background, and everything. Even those precious few close to her had to watch what they said and did around her.

She never read fan mail or accepted presents her fans sent her. I think she hired people to throw most of it all out. She even kept her Oscar in a closet because "it meant nothing." I do think she may have had a little bit of a mental problem too.

She was a fantastic actress. I have all of her movies, even all of her early silents.

Actually, I don't see that as completely bad. 1000000x better than the glory hogs we have now. I swear I couldn't give a **** about Brad and Jen if I had a laxative.

dawsongirl
08-23-2005, 04:34 PM
another one is Jennifer Aniston

it's so obvious the reason she ended Friends (the others were considering an 11th season but she was all "hell will freeze over") was because she thought she was set for life being the wife of Brad Pitt, and then that fell apart not even a year later. However, now she thinks she's above doing a Friends retrospective special ala Seinfeld or the sort. Come on, she's had a little success in film but almost always as the "girlfriend" character, The Good Girl was her only leading role that was a hit. She is hardly the Tom Hanks/Denzel Washington type to proclaim being above the medium that made them a star.

That's because she can't act her way out of a paper bag. She and David Schwimmer were made for each other. Bad Actors Hall of Fame candidates right there.

dawsongirl
08-23-2005, 04:42 PM
Larry Hagman resented his time on "I Dream of Jeannie" but was always close with Barbara Eden. He's over that now, I imagine. But he is very proud of "Dallas".

He did a reunion with Barbara, Bill, and Sidney Sheldon on Donny and Marie's talk show, so I think he's probably gotten over that.

Ireneparalegal
08-23-2005, 04:48 PM
oh yeah, he doesn't resent Jeannie at all. It shows his ability as an actor in a sitcom just like others see his quality as a dramatic actor on Dallas. I love Dallas. I love to hate JR, he was awesome.

Mr. Television
08-23-2005, 04:59 PM
oh yeah, he doesn't resent Jeannie at all. It shows his ability as an actor in a sitcom just like others see his quality as a dramatic actor on Dallas. I love Dallas. I love to hate JR, he was awesome.



I think he resented it for a long time. Until recently he never did interviews or anything connected with it while Barbara Eden always did. I think now that he's a lot older he can finally appreciate that he was connected with 2 great shows that people love. Not many actors can say that.

Ireneparalegal
08-23-2005, 11:11 PM
My daughter was telling me today that James Van Der Beek (sp?) from Dawson's Creek is ungrateful.

Ireneparalegal
08-25-2005, 07:23 PM
Someone might have already mentioned it, but Billy Crystal isn't too fond of the fact that he played the first gay character in sitcom history on Soap. Free Jessica Tate? Free Jodie Dallas! Come out of the closet, Billy - you played a guy who dates guys! (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
I never knew this. I would think he would be proud of that.

spunkygirl
08-25-2005, 07:24 PM
Michael J. Fox, I have barely ever heard him talk about Family Ties, but yet he has gone on and on about Spin City :(

Ireneparalegal
08-25-2005, 07:27 PM
yeah someone else posted the same thing. I just don't get these actors/actresses. Why be ungrateful for something that was good or positive??? I can see if what you did was embarrassing (example: Vanity)

Jrnygrl
08-26-2005, 07:54 PM
Johnny Depp doesn't speak about "21 Jump Street."

And if you notice the show is not shown anywhere, at least in my area, in reruns. ;)

Dean Winchester
08-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Johnny Depp doesn't speak about "21 Jump Street."

And if you notice the show is not shown anywhere, at least in my area, in reruns. ;)

I notice he didn't exactly go out of his way to do an interview or record commentaries on the DVD's either.

Ireneparalegal
08-26-2005, 09:31 PM
21 is not shown here in my area either...as a matter of fact, it has been a long while since i seen it in reruns...Johnny Depp seems like the kind of person who would "deny" this show. I can't stand the way he looks currently in that Willie Wonka movie.

Dr. Thong
08-27-2005, 12:07 PM
Look at this issue another way: When you go to your high school reunion, do you want to hear someone go on and on about how great they played in the homecoming game or that they were the prom queen?? You may want to relive a little bit, but if someone just goes on and on about the past, it gets kind of old.

Dean Winchester
08-27-2005, 06:34 PM
Look at this issue another way: When you go to your high school reunion, do you want to hear someone go on and on about how great they played in the homecoming game or that they were the prom queen?? You may want to relive a little bit, but if someone just goes on and on about the past, it gets kind of old.

my take on it is: it's better to have accomplished something in the past than to never have accomplished something at all. For Gary Coleman to whine about getting asked Diff'rent Strokes questions does not get sympathy.... Granted, it's part of his childhood and he's in his 30's these days, but still, he should be happy he made it in the past instead of being ashamed because it was 20 years ago.

Ireneparalegal
08-27-2005, 06:37 PM
my take on it is: it's better to have accomplished something in the past than to never have accomplished something at all. For Gary Coleman to whine about getting asked Diff'rent Strokes questions does not get sympathy.... Granted, it's part of his childhood and he's in his 30's these days, but still, he should be happy he made it in the past instead of being ashamed because it was 20 years ago.
:wave: :cheers: :clap: :notworthy :clap
People like Gary Coleman need to grow up (literally) he even assaulted a woman who asked for his autograph!!!! remember that Buffy!? I mean, if someone can't even bring up something you did that was a compliment, then you don't deserve anyone to be nice to you.

Dean Winchester
08-27-2005, 06:45 PM
:wave: :cheers: :clap: :notworthy :clap
People like Gary Coleman need to grow up (literally) he even assaulted a woman who asked for his autograph!!!! remember that Buffy!? I mean, if someone can't even bring up something you did that was a compliment, then you don't deserve anyone to be nice to you.

yea, I remember that. You'd think at this point in time, Gary Coleman would be HONORED to have someone walk up to him and say "you know, I grew up with you, can I have an autograph?". I really feel bad for his psyche, his parents screwed him up BAD because I heard stories from the early 80's where he was an absolute sweetheart, and now he's a bitter washed-up man. I still enjoy watching Diff'rent Strokes reruns though it is kinda upsetting seeing how the cute, precocious and hilarious kid has become a bitter, sad adult.

Ireneparalegal
08-27-2005, 06:48 PM
I don't know if you read my previous post abt how now Gary Coleman does these commercials for QuickCash (something like that) and in it he says "I know what it's like to not have $$$$)!!!!!! I don't know how far those commercials play, I don't know if it's just a commercial for play in Southern California, but still, that commercial is annoying and if I were to go up to him and say "Hey, aren't you that guy in that cash commercial?" do you think he would be grateful?????

Dean Winchester
08-27-2005, 06:57 PM
I've seen those commercials here in Louisville too. I wonder if Gary Coleman realizes the only reason they even hired him for that was because "I'm sure people who used to watch Diff'rent Strokes might like seeing this".

I won't lie, I have season 1 of Diff'rent Strokes (oddly enough, there's a documentary on the disc, and all the surviving cast members are on it... except Coleman) and will get subsequent sets whenever they come out. It's a cheesy show but I always loved it, at least until Sam came in.

Ireneparalegal
08-27-2005, 06:59 PM
I've seen those commercials here in Louisville too. I wonder if Gary Coleman realizes the only reason they even hired him for that was because "I'm sure people who used to watch Diff'rent Strokes might like seeing this".

I won't lie, I have season 1 of Diff'rent Strokes (oddly enough, there's a documentary on the disc, and all the surviving cast members are on it... except Coleman) and will get subsequent sets whenever they come out. It's a cheesy show but I always loved it, at least until Sam came in.
Oh Sam!!! What an annoying little brat he was. I can't stand when they brought him in. UUUUUgggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Dean Winchester
08-27-2005, 07:09 PM
Oh Sam!!! What an annoying little brat he was. I can't stand when they brought him in. UUUUUgggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Sam ruined the show for me. I think it got better and better as they got older, but yet they just had to bring Sam in because Gary Coleman was about 16 at the time and the cuteness from the first few years was gone. I liked Willis and Kimberly better as they were college-aged than 13-14. All shows run their natural courses but I wonder how the last two seasons of Strokes may have been better if they never hired Danny Cooksey to come in and be Arnold's new brother.

Ireneparalegal
08-28-2005, 10:05 PM
I guess we can add John Stamos to the list. There's a thread that says he was embarrassed to be on Full House. I don't blame him. Those kids and especially the olsen twins. OMG!

Dean Winchester
08-28-2005, 10:58 PM
I guess we can add John Stamos to the list. There's a thread that says he was embarrassed to be on Full House. I don't blame him. Those kids and especially the olsen twins. OMG!

well, I hate Full House but while Stamos wants to be distanced from it, he will ALWAYS be Uncle Jesse to many people, he may as well make peace with it

The Chauffeur
08-29-2005, 01:46 AM
Actually, Tom Hanks was involved in a Bosum Buddies reunion earlier this year which was covered by Extra, they all got together with Wendy Jo Sperber to honor the series ( given this may be her only chance to so this considering she has terminal cancer) but none the less, he did participate, I just wish they could have done it in the form of a show. But it did knock him off the list of ungrateful actors in my book at least. Also, I was just watching the other day that Sarsah Michelle Geller was making a plea to make a Buffy movie, and said she would reprise her role, which really surpised me. I think the truly ungrateful hollywood is in the now. I mean things like J-lo making high demands for her trailer she used in a 911 video compilation with other artists, in with she was only on the set for maximum of 2 hours is pretty unforgivable and the ultimate ego trip

Ireneparalegal
08-29-2005, 11:59 PM
Actually, Tom Hanks was involved in a Bosum Buddies reunion earlier this year which was covered by Extra, they all got together with Wendy Jo Sperber to honor the series ( given this may be her only chance to so this considering she has terminal cancer) but none the less, he did participate, I just wish they could have done it in the form of a show. But it did knock him off the list of ungrateful actors in my book at least. Also, I was just watching the other day that Sarsah Michelle Geller was making a plea to make a Buffy movie, and said she would reprise her role, which really surpised me. I think the truly ungrateful hollywood is in the now. I mean things like J-lo making high demands for her trailer she used in a 911 video compilation with other artists, in with she was only on the set for maximum of 2 hours is pretty unforgivable and the ultimate ego trip
OMG!!!!!!!!! I cannot stand that B*****. JHO is nothing but a money hungry, talentless singer. Anyone can sing if you add all those gizmos to drown out your voice. She is annoying and TOO DAMN DEMANDING. Why on God's green earth does she think she even deserves MORE MORE MORE?????

The Chauffeur
08-30-2005, 06:24 AM
OMG!!!!!!!!! Why on God's green earth does she think she even deserves MORE MORE MORE?????


Because people buy her albums :rolleyes: Sad really!

Dr. Thong
08-30-2005, 09:03 AM
Because people buy her albums :rolleyes: Sad really!

The only reason her songs got airplay was because Sony Music paid off a bunch of DJs in key markets to do so. Sony recently paid $10 million to the state of NY for payola.

The Chauffeur
08-30-2005, 09:30 AM
I'm growing really resentful of the entertainment industry, all they care about is making money. They care nothing about the fans, I don't care how much the entertainers PR script them to express gratitude, it's just empty! And not too much of the talent is even that great to boot! Heck, you don't even have to be talented at ANYTHING to be famous anymore, you just have to be rich! Now they can buy a star on the walk of fame, I remember when it was an honor because it was earned! Everything is either ripped off or reinvented into something awful that just ruins nostalgia. I don't even bother questioning Paris Hilton's fame anymore, but I do want to know, how in the heck is P. Diddy an icon? He was nothing but a sample hog! Somehow the rest of the industry think he's a god. I think he's just a good bootlicker to the other celebs, they mostly honor each other and just leave the fans nowhere in the picture. I blame shows like entertainment tonight, access hollywood, extra, MTV and not to forget the channel dedicated to buttkissing E! Really, why does Joe Simpson need a true hollywood story? couldn't they have said enough with Jessica and Ashley Simpson and the the Simpsons episode? True art is nearly gone in Hollywood, the best thing I've seen lately was the series finale of Six Feet Under! That was true art!

Ireneparalegal
08-31-2005, 12:44 PM
I'm growing really resentful of the entertainment industry, all they care about is making money. They care nothing about the fans, I don't care how much the entertainers PR script them to express gratitude, it's just empty! And not too much of the talent is even that great to boot! Heck, you don't even have to be talented at ANYTHING to be famous anymore, you just have to be rich! Now they can buy a star on the walk of fame, I remember when it was an honor because it was earned! Everything is either ripped off or reinvented into something awful that just ruins nostalgia. I don't even bother questioning Paris Hilton's fame anymore, but I do want to know, how in the heck is P. Diddy an icon? He was nothing but a sample hog! Somehow the rest of the industry think he's a god. I think he's just a good bootlicker to the other celebs, they mostly honor each other and just leave the fans nowhere in the picture. I blame shows like entertainment tonight, access hollywood, extra, MTV and not to forget the channel dedicated to buttkissing E! Really, why does Joe Simpson need a true hollywood story? couldn't they have said enough with Jessica and Ashley Simpson and the the Simpsons episode? True art is nearly gone in Hollywood, the best thing I've seen lately was the series finale of Six Feet Under! That was true art!
BOY!!!! you really vented there. But I agree with you. I am so glad you mentioned the walk of fame thing. as a matter of fact, I am going to start a thread abt that. Check it out!!!!!!

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:23 PM
I think Suzanne Somers was ungrateful while she was on Three's Company. Her sky-high demands for money and her no-shows were lousy.

I know this is supposed to be about ungrateful actors/actresses, but there was a similar situation that could be said about Chuck Woolery and his days on WoF. He asked for more money, Merv said no dice and he just left.

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:30 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!! I cannot stand that B*****. JHO is nothing but a money hungry, talentless singer. Anyone can sing if you add all those gizmos to drown out your voice. She is annoying and TOO DAMN DEMANDING. Why on God's green earth does she think she even deserves MORE MORE MORE?????

That's true!:mad: It's people like J-HO that make it hard for me to not date Latina women (I used to be the butt off Latina women's jokes all the time and I'm still am! No offense to the Latinos, though).

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:33 PM
well, I hate Full House but while Stamos wants to be distanced from it, he will ALWAYS be Uncle Jesse to many people, he may as well make peace with it

Even though I disliked him on Full House and the show itself, I agree with what Stamos said about him distancing himself from Full House. I can't stand those Olsen Twins at all! A prime example of what young, spoiled, zero talent that's roaming around in Hollywood these days.

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:41 PM
Johnny Depp doesn't speak about "21 Jump Street."

And if you notice the show is not shown anywhere, at least in my area, in reruns. ;)

Actually, I recently heard him mention 21 Jump Street on an interview during The Insider before when he was prmoting Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:51 PM
I agree with everyone that mentions Jennifer Aniston. She's waaaay too overblown and acts like she's above everyone else from Friends (even though I don't care too much for that show, either) and that all that time she spent with Brad would make her the world. HA! How did that go about, huh?

I also nominate Paris Hilton on my list, b/c she thinks she's all that and thinks she's the world. I'm sorry but Paris Hilton is nothing but a flat-chested, prima donna drag queen, that thinks that everyone's hitting up on her. HA! I wish I would! After the dirty mascara eats her face, first! :lol:

I never even once had a crush on Paris Hilton at all!

megamanj2004
10-10-2005, 05:56 PM
I never liked SMG, either, nor did I care that much for her! Freddie, you can shove it and I hope you dad strikes you down upon the face of defiancy! :D

Dr. Thong
10-10-2005, 08:49 PM
I also nominate Paris Hilton on my list, b/c she thinks she's all that and thinks she's the world. I'm sorry but Paris Hilton is nothing but a flat-chested, prima donna drag queen, that thinks that everyone's hitting up on her. HA! I wish I would! After the dirty mascara eats her face, first! :lol:

I never even once had a crush on Paris Hilton at all!

I don't disagree with your assessment of the vastly overrated Ms. Hilton - however, she is not an actress. Or much of anything, for that matter...:D

Ireneparalegal
10-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Even though I disliked him on Full House and the show itself, I agree with what Stamos said about him distancing himself from Full House. I can't stand those Olsen Twins at all! A prime example of what young, spoiled, zero talent that's roaming around in Hollywood these days.
yeah, someone else who agrees with me abt the annoying olsen twins.:wave:

isiahthomas
10-22-2005, 02:43 PM
LOL@The Chaffeur dissin Puff Daddy hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I can't stand that dude. He's the reason why The Notorious Big's last album Life After Death sucked because Puffy is only interested in making pop music & selling records instead of making street music. He's a shady businessman also. Craig Mack had signed with Bad Boy again after rappin on G Dep's Special Delivery remix a few years ago. Next thing i know, Craig's album hasn't came out yet & he left Bad Boy again. LOL@the people who dissed Lisa Bonet. She looks terrible now. She hasn't done jack since she left A Different World. She was in the Biker Boys movie with Larry Fishburne & Derek Luke. That's the last time i've seen her & she looked terrible in that. Back in the day, she used to be cute. For the person who said John Travolta doesn't acknowledge Welcome Back Kotter, John reunited with the cast of the show a few years ago when ABC network celebrated their anniversary. LOL@Gary Coleman & Jimmie Walker of Good Times tv show hahahahahahahahahahaha. How can they diss anybody on their show & not be happy about their past success on those shows? Jimmie Walker hasn't been cast in anything since Good Times hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Nobody wants to cast him in anything because he's ugly hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

platinumblondelife
10-22-2005, 03:31 PM
LOL@The Chaffeur dissin Puff Daddy hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I can't stand that dude. He's the reason why The Notorious Big's last album Life After Death sucked because Puffy is only interested in making pop music & selling records instead of making street music. He's a shady businessman also. Craig Mack had signed with Bad Boy again after rappin on G Dep's Special Delivery remix a few years ago. Next thing i know, Craig's album hasn't came out yet & he left Bad Boy again. LOL@the people who dissed Lisa Bonet. She looks terrible now. She hasn't done jack since she left A Different World. She was in the Biker Boys movie with Larry Fishburne & Derek Luke. That's the last time i've seen her & she looked terrible in that. Back in the day, she used to be cute. For the person who said John Travolta doesn't acknowledge Welcome Back Kotter, John reunited with the cast of the show a few years ago when ABC network celebrated their anniversary. LOL@Gary Coleman & Jimmie Walker of Good Times tv show hahahahahahahahahahaha. How can they diss anybody on their show & not be happy about their past success on those shows? Jimmie Walker hasn't been cast in anything since Good Times hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Nobody wants to cast him in anything because he's ugly hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
OMG I hate Diddy. I could tolerate him when I was really really young, but I was young and didnt know any better lol. I remember when I was really young and I stayed a lot over my friends house who was black, the Source Awards was on. I remember seeing some really big black guy get up and say "If you dont want Diddy all in your videos, join Death Row!" Infact, I think they showed it on Vh1 recently. I listened to Bad Boy's music a lot in the 90s when I was little....I liked the r&b mostly, like Faith Evans (loved her 1st cd...You Use to Love Me...I loved that song) but now they've been putting out bs. Does Diddy even still make CDs? I cant tell you how much I despise him now though, and how he has to be in everything...everyone's music videos, acne commercials, even 1980's shows reunions. Also, I cant believe someone remembers Craig Mack, I remember Flava In Ya Ear, which was a really hot song on hip hop/rnb radio when I was 7 lol. Anyway, Im just ranting...yeah..."diddy" sucks now.

Dr. Thong
10-22-2005, 09:50 PM
Speaking of Poof Diddley, if you really think about it, he's just famous for being famous now. When's the last time he actually had a hit record, if you think about it. He's more famous for his parties, his "bling" and his clothing line.

I'm no hip-hop/rap fan but even I know he's not credible as a rapper. He's certainly no musician. I lost a little respect for Jimmy Page and Sting when they not only allowed him to sample their songs, but endorsed it by appearing live on stage with him to perform his desecrations of their classic works. Money talks, I guess.

His appearance on the MTV awards a couple of months ago only seemed to affirm the fact that he is now irrelevant. He's a shill for the products he makes - not that he was ever truly an artist in the first place.

platinumblondelife
10-22-2005, 11:44 PM
Speaking of Poof Diddley, if you really think about it, he's just famous for being famous now. When's the last time he actually had a hit record, if you think about it. He's more famous for his parties, his "bling" and his clothing line.

I'm no hip-hop/rap fan but even I know he's not credible as a rapper. He's certainly no musician. I lost a little respect for Jimmy Page and Sting when they not only allowed him to sample their songs, but endorsed it by appearing live on stage with him to perform his desecrations of their classic works. Money talks, I guess.

His appearance on the MTV awards a couple of months ago only seemed to affirm the fact that he is now irrelevant. He's a shill for the products he makes - not that he was ever truly an artist in the first place.
He's a good CEO, party thrower and a good producer, I guess, but as far as his actual rap career, I think it's pretty much dead. He's in people's videos talking, but he hasnt had his own single in forever. Either that or it got zero play on radio/tv. Oh, I think he was the worst host of the VMA's too. He was so annoying, with his "anything can happen" when nothing happened. I can just see his next thing trying to become a major actor. God help us if that happens.

Dr. Thong
10-23-2005, 11:10 AM
He's a good CEO, party thrower and a good producer, I guess, but as far as his actual rap career, I think it's pretty much dead. He's in people's videos talking, but he hasnt had his own single in forever. Either that or it got zero play on radio/tv. Oh, I think he was the worst host of the VMA's too. He was so annoying, with his "anything can happen" when nothing happened. I can just see his next thing trying to become a major actor. God help us if that happens.

He had a small role in Monsters Ball and he's about as good an actor as he is a "musician." The only good thing about that part was that his character was executed.:D

He has a part in the direct-to-DVD Carlito's Way sequel. I guess the movie was so good they just bypassed showing it in theaters.:D

isiahthomas
10-23-2005, 01:29 PM
Keep on ya'll with the Puff Daddy disses hahahahahahahahahahaha. LOL@Dr Thong saying the best thing about Puff Daddy's small part in Monster's Ball movie is that he was executed hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I wanna see Carlito's Way sequel. I know Puff Daddy is in that. LOL@Platinumblondelife saying god help us if Puff Daddy becomes a actor. He was also in the movie Made with Vince Vaughn & Faizon Love. I never saw it. Last video Puff Daddy did was Bad Boy 4 Life song a few years ago which he rapped on. He did a song with Nelly & Murphy Lee called Shake Your Tailfeather for Bad Boys 2 soundtrack. That song is horrible. I don't know what made him decide to become a rapper but he sucks at it badly. He should've stuck to producing. Platinumblondelife that big guy that you're talkin about that made that comment at The Source Awards 11 years ago about if you don't want your CEO all in your videos & on your records, come to Death Row. That was Suge Knight who said that. I know that comment was directed towards Puff Daddy because Death Row records & Bad Boy records had beef with each other. When 2Pac signed with Death Row, that made the situation even worse because 2Pac hated The Notorious Big & Puff Daddy even though 2Pac & The Notorious Big were friends at one point.

Ireneparalegal
10-23-2005, 02:17 PM
I don't really care for P. Diddy, or whatever his name is but being a CEO of his own company, he really doesn't need to do anything else. He is not famous just for being famous. He made it at a very young age. He also discovers new talent.

Courtnee
10-23-2005, 02:23 PM
pufffffff daaaaaaaaaaaadah iz da shiznit!!! loLLLlllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :crazy: :lol: :talk: :rolleyes: :D :o :cool: :p ;) :) :( :happyface

Dr. Thong
10-23-2005, 05:16 PM
I don't really care for P. Diddy, or whatever his name is but being a CEO of his own company, he really doesn't need to do anything else. He is not famous just for being famous. He made it at a very young age. He also discovers new talent.

P. Diddy and "talent" in the same paragraph. I don't think I've ever seen that before.:lol:

platinumblondelife
10-23-2005, 09:50 PM
Keep on ya'll with the Puff Daddy disses hahahahahahahahahahaha. LOL@Dr Thong saying the best thing about Puff Daddy's small part in Monster's Ball movie is that he was executed hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I wanna see Carlito's Way sequel. I know Puff Daddy is in that. LOL@Platinumblondelife saying god help us if Puff Daddy becomes a actor. He was also in the movie Made with Vince Vaughn & Faizon Love. I never saw it. Last video Puff Daddy did was Bad Boy 4 Life song a few years ago which he rapped on. He did a song with Nelly & Murphy Lee called Shake Your Tailfeather for Bad Boys 2 soundtrack. That song is horrible. I don't know what made him decide to become a rapper but he sucks at it badly. He should've stuck to producing. Platinumblondelife that big guy that you're talkin about that made that comment at The Source Awards 11 years ago about if you don't want your CEO all in your videos & on your records, come to Death Row. That was Suge Knight who said that. I know that comment was directed towards Puff Daddy because Death Row records & Bad Boy records had beef with each other. When 2Pac signed with Death Row, that made the situation even worse because 2Pac hated The Notorious Big & Puff Daddy even though 2Pac & The Notorious Big were friends at one point.
Yeah, I remember the 2Pac vs Notorious BIG thing. I really believe that Biggie had something to do with 2Pac's murder. Another thing that annoys me about "Diddy" was at the VMA's they did a tribute to Biggie. Enough with Biggie tributes, Diddy, we know he's dead, and we know he was a good rapper, but you need to get over it. He's feeling nostalgic for the days when he wasnt so irrelevant. But how dare they do a tribute for Biggie with Snoop Dogg at the VMA's. I'll bet Tupac was turning in his grave. Biggie had like, 3 albums, and 2Pac was just a lot more talented.

megamanj2004
10-24-2005, 11:28 AM
LOL@The Chaffeur dissin Puff Daddy hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I can't stand that dude. He's the reason why The Notorious Big's last album Life After Death sucked because Puffy is only interested in making pop music & selling records instead of making street music. He's a shady businessman also. Craig Mack had signed with Bad Boy again after rappin on G Dep's Special Delivery remix a few years ago. Next thing i know, Craig's album hasn't came out yet & he left Bad Boy again. LOL@the people who dissed Lisa Bonet. She looks terrible now. She hasn't done jack since she left A Different World. She was in the Biker Boys movie with Larry Fishburne & Derek Luke. That's the last time i've seen her & she looked terrible in that. Back in the day, she used to be cute. For the person who said John Travolta doesn't acknowledge Welcome Back Kotter, John reunited with the cast of the show a few years ago when ABC network celebrated their anniversary. LOL@Gary Coleman & Jimmie Walker of Good Times tv show hahahahahahahahahahaha. How can they diss anybody on their show & not be happy about their past success on those shows? Jimmie Walker hasn't been cast in anything since Good Times hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Nobody wants to cast him in anything because he's ugly hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Damn, Jimmie Walker's ugly and he's a damn swizzle stick! :lol:

isiahthomas
10-24-2005, 01:03 PM
LOL@Puff Daddy needs to get over The Notorious Big being dead hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yeah he does need to let him rest in peace. Puffy is about to release another Biggie album. I forgot the name of it but i bet the album is gonna be wack. He released a Biggie album after he died 6 years ago called Born Again. That album is wack. Puffy took Biggie's old lyrics from unreleased songs & put them on songs with rappers like Method Man, Redman, Juvenile, BG, Lil Wayne, Birdman, Sadat X, Ice Cube, Black Rob, Junior Mafia, Eminem. Only song i like on that album is Dead Wrong. I wish Death Row records, Interscope records, 2Pac's mom would let 2Pac rest in peace & stop releasing unreleased songs from 2Pac because i'm tired of seeing new albums coming out by 2Pac that has rappers on his albums who he would've never worked with. Putting 2Pac's lyrics over wack beats is a problem also. It's a shame how record companies wanna make money off of dead rappers.

platinumblondelife
10-24-2005, 03:42 PM
LOL@Puff Daddy needs to get over The Notorious Big being dead hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yeah he does need to let him rest in peace. Puffy is about to release another Biggie album. I forgot the name of it but i bet the album is gonna be wack. He released a Biggie album after he died 6 years ago called Born Again. That album is wack. Puffy took Biggie's old lyrics from unreleased songs & put them on songs with rappers like Method Man, Redman, Juvenile, BG, Lil Wayne, Birdman, Sadat X, Ice Cube, Black Rob, Junior Mafia, Eminem. Only song i like on that album is Dead Wrong. I wish Death Row records, Interscope records, 2Pac's mom would let 2Pac rest in peace & stop releasing unreleased songs from 2Pac because i'm tired of seeing new albums coming out by 2Pac that has rappers on his albums who he would've never worked with. Putting 2Pac's lyrics over wack beats is a problem also. It's a shame how record companies wanna make money off of dead rappers.
I love 2Pac but I agree. "Ghetto Gospel" has him together with Elton John?! What. the. ****. Whoever came up with that should be ashamed.

Dr. Thong
10-24-2005, 04:56 PM
I love 2Pac but I agree. "Ghetto Gospel" has him together with Elton John?! What. the. ****. Whoever came up with that should be ashamed.

They do the same thing to dead rock stars. Jimi Hendrix released only a handful of albums in the few years he was a professional recording artist. That number has multiplied exponentially in the years since his passing and his estate is planning to have a new archival Hendrix release every year.

isiahthomas
10-24-2005, 05:21 PM
2Pac's record label put his old lyrics on a song with Elton John? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

PlayBack
08-18-2008, 08:01 AM
My favorite actor right now is Chiwetel Ejiofor. I have seen so many of his films and have yet to been disappointed in any of his performance. The guy is amazing and can literally do every accent possible. His newest film Redbelt is nothing less than excellent. He and David Mammet blew me away. Speaking of Redbelt I just saw this film called Scorpion. Scorpion has similar fighting scenes in the sense that they're realistic in nature. Nothing over the top and a straight forward film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFrHNaq-6qE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI0guJ7apcE

MusicJunkie
09-27-2008, 07:11 PM
I dunno if it counts or not, but what about Shia LeBeauf? The way he distances himself and refuses to ever speak about his Disney past shows a bit of ungratefulness IMO. I can see where he doesn't want to be typecast as a kid actor anymore now that he's in his 20's and has a "serious" career, but it does seem pretty ungrateful the way he ignores his pre-2004 career suddenly when a lot of former Disney/Nick actors who have gone on to bigger and better things still show a sense of gratitude.

catlover79
01-03-2009, 11:56 PM
John Lennon was great to his fans. He loved being in New York because he could walk around and be himself and sometimes be left alone. Other times he was happy to take pics and give autographs. So sad.
I agree!! I just find it so sad (and ironic) that his being so open and friendly with fans and autograph seekers led to his death. Not his fault, of course, but still...ohno:

cleverfun3000
01-04-2009, 11:13 PM
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