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tvje
08-10-2005, 12:04 AM
We live in such a PC world today, I am surprised that no one from the N.A.A.C.P. is organising a boycott of the Dukes of Hazzards movie because of the Confiderate flag on the car.

I am not african american, but I could see african americans being offended by it. Personally, I don't think that flag represents racism. It is just a flag of a short lived country. The buring crosses by the K.K.K. is another story. Still I could see african americans being offended.

Rene
08-10-2005, 12:16 AM
im black and yes im offended but thats not the only reason im not going to see this

Brian
08-10-2005, 12:19 AM
What a coincidence, we were talking about this in my history class.

I think it represents more than just a short-lived country. It represents a rebellious nation that didn't want to stay with the Union. I can see how it represents racism on some level.

That's one reason I'm boycotting it. The other reason I'm doing it is because they shouldn't do remakes of classic shows such as "The Dukes of Hazzard" and casting actors and actresses that aren't very good.

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 12:56 AM
A boycott of the movie over the Confederate flag is ridiculous. Most people down south do not use the flag as a symbol of racism. I'm sure that when most people see the Confederate flag in the movie, given the movie's context, they don't think "racism". It's just a symbol of Southern identity. Some people may use it as a racist symbol, just in the same way some use the Christian cross as a racist or anti-semitic symbol.

The Confederate flag was actually based on St. Andrew's cross, a Christian symbol. Ever notice how it resembles the Union Jack?

Dean Winchester
08-10-2005, 01:55 AM
well, it shows just how much more sensitive the nation has gotten in 25 years. In the early 80's, we all had Dukes Of Hazzard toys, us as little kids thought nothing about the flag on top of their car, it was just some design, and yet now it's that the Dukes are Klansmen.

the Dukes are country boys, nothing more, nothing less. I have never seen anything on the show that would make you think they are racist, if anything, they were the "good guys" while Boss Hogg was the one who was a bad guy.

When I see someone with a Confederate Flag on their car (I like in northern KY, where there's some, and some who aren't), first thing I think is "these guys are white trash", but remember that Bo and Luke Duke were supposed to be rebels (in a good way) and the confederates were rebellious (though not in a good way). If the show was set in NYC and they still had the Confederate Flag on their car, it'd be a completely different story.

Rene
08-10-2005, 02:17 AM
The Confederate flag was actually based on St. Andrew's cross, a Christian symbol. Ever notice how it resembles the Union Jack?

the swastica was the buddhist symbol so does that mean its ok to put it on cars?

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 02:22 AM
the swastica was the buddhist symbol so does that mean its ok to put it on cars?The swastika, in its original form with points facing counterclockwise, was a symbol of good luck in ancient India. The one that Hitler used was an inverted one, meaning anarchy, the elements of nature thrown out of harmony. It's almost like using an upside down cross, a perversion of its original meaning.

Did you also know that the peace sign was originally an anti-Christian symbol?
peacesign: Should we ban those?

Rene
08-10-2005, 02:27 AM
The swastika, in its original form with points facing counterclockwise, was a symbol of good luck in ancient India. The one that Hitler used was an inverted one, meaning anarchy, the elements of nature thrown out of harmony. It's almost like using an upside down cross, a perversion of its original meaning.

Did you also know that the peace sign was originally an anti-Christian symbol?
peacesign: Should we ban those?

alright i admit you got me there but hey im not saying that nobody should see the movie-it is my personal choice not to see it b/c of that. besides im also not going to see it b/c it looks horribly unfunny

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:43 AM
We live in such a PC world today, I am surprised that no one from the N.A.A.C.P. is organising a boycott of the Dukes of Hazzards movie because of the Confiderate flag on the car.

I am not African American, but I could see African Americans being offended by it. Personally, I don't think that flag represents racism. It is just a flag of a short lived country. The burning crosses by the K.K.K. is another story. Still I could see african americans being offended.


Actually, someone from the NAACP is calling for a boycott of the Dukes of Hazzard movie. I saw it on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. :eek:

All symbols of middle America are under attack, by the way. The cross is seen by some as a symbol of slavery because Christianity was forced on blacks during slavery, which is why so many black Americans have adopted Islam. One such Muslim, basketball player Chris Jackson, became Muhammed Abdul-Raouf and regarded the flag as a symbol of racism and oppression. The Confederate flag? No - the Stars and Stripes! When he played for the Denver Nuggets, Abdul-Raouf refused to stand for the national anthem and honor the flag.

As for me, I'm boycotting the Dukes of Hazzard movie not just because I hate Confederate flags unless they are flown by Lynyrd Skynyrd fans, but also for the following reasons:

Jessica Simpson is in it.

There's a scene in which Bo and Luke ride through Atlanta in blackface.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Burt Reynolds makes a terrible Boss Hogg.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

This movie is aimed at the submoronic, lunkheaded teenage white boys who will one day run the country.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Even Ben Jones, the original Cooter from the TV series, hated it.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Did I happen to mention that Jessica Simpson is in it? :lol:

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 11:26 AM
Actually, someone from the NAACP is calling for a boycott of the Dukes of Hazzard movie. I saw it on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. :eek:

All symbols of middle America are under attack, by the way. The cross is seen by some as a symbol of slavery because Christianity was forced on blacks during slavery, which is why so many black Americans have adopted Islam. One such Muslim, basketball player Chris Jackson, became Muhammed Abdul-Raouf and regarded the flag as a symbol of racism and oppression. The Confederate flag? No - the Stars and Stripes! When he played for the Denver Nuggets, Abdul-Raouf refused to stand for the national anthem and honor the flag.

As for me, I'm boycotting the Dukes of Hazzard movie not just because I hate Confederate flags unless they are flown by Lynyrd Skynyrd fans, but also for the following reasons:

Jessica Simpson is in it.

There's a scene in which Bo and Luke ride through Atlanta in blackface.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Burt Reynolds makes a terrible Boss Hogg.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

This movie is aimed at the submoronic, lunkheaded teenage white boys who will one day run the country.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Even Ben Jones, the original Cooter from the TV series, hated it.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Did I happen to mention that Jessica Simpson is in it? :lol:Now I draw the line at blackface makeup. ohno:

TripperFan
08-10-2005, 11:37 AM
That flag must sure have something "bad" attached to it. When my husband and I were in Florida, we did some shopping in the "off tourist" area in a western store.

He loves those shirts like Garth Brooks wears - bold, bright, etc.. One of the shirts he grabbed had the Confederate design on it. We both just liked it because it looked "Americanish" (if that's a term :lol: ) and looked good on him.

Well we got tons of stares at the airport in Orlando and just chalked it up to him looking pretty good in it. :lol: It wasn't until we got on an elevator with a couple of black guys back in Canada and they just GLARED at us and started whispering. That's when I did a couple of googles and found out what it could represent! We just about died. :eek:

He said he still wanted to wear it because it was just a nice looking shirt to him, but I begged him not to - it's o.k. though - I fattened him up enough that within about 6 months he COULDN'T wear it anymore! :lol:

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 11:46 AM
Good ol' boy movies make you root for the sheriff or political boss that's trying to stop the good ol' boys, because if they stop the good ol' boys, there won't be any movie! :lol:

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
08-10-2005, 11:48 AM
That flag must sure have something "bad" attached to it. When my husband and I were in Florida, we did some shopping in the "off tourist" area in a western store.

He loves those shirts like Garth Brooks wears - bold, bright, etc.. One of the shirts he grabbed had the Confederate design on it. We both just liked it because it looked "Americanish" (if that's a term :lol: ) and looked good on him.

Well we got tons of stares at the airport in Orlando and just chalked it up to him looking pretty good in it. :lol: It wasn't until we got on an elevator with a couple of black guys back in Canada and they just GLARED at us and started whispering. That's when I did a couple of googles and found out what it could represent! We just about died. :eek:

He said he still wanted to wear it because it was just a nice looking shirt to him, but I begged him not to - it's o.k. though - I fattened him up enough that within about 6 months he COULDN'T wear it anymore! :lol:
:rofl: :rofl:


Anyways, I saw the movie and thought nothing 'racist' during that scene. The scene was meant for humor purposes only. IMO, I just think people tend to get a bit too PC.

TripperFan
08-10-2005, 11:52 AM
:rofl: :rofl:


Anyways, I saw the movie and thought nothing 'racist' during that scene. The scene was meant for humor purposes only. IMO, I just think people tend to get a bit too PC.


I agree with you there! I find myself even getting a bit paranoid (like in my story). I don't want to offend anyone, and am not the least bit racist - just like the design of certain things.

I've even been criticized by an aborginal (Canada's equivalent to Native Americans) for wearing some jewelry and Indian style jackets though - I LOVE that stuff and even their culture - what's wrong with it? ('course this person was also a kook who grew up with Shania Twain and called her a "skank" - meanwhile, you should see THIS broad! :rolleyes: ) :lol:

Dean Winchester
08-10-2005, 03:19 PM
As for me, I'm boycotting the Dukes of Hazzard movie not just because I hate Confederate flags unless they are flown by Lynyrd Skynyrd fans, but also for the following reasons:

Jessica Simpson is in it.

There's a scene in which Bo and Luke ride through Atlanta in blackface.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Burt Reynolds makes a terrible Boss Hogg.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

This movie is aimed at the submoronic, lunkheaded teenage white boys who will one day run the country.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Even Ben Jones, the original Cooter from the TV series, hated it.

Jessica Simpson is in it.

Did I happen to mention that Jessica Simpson is in it? :lol:

I thought Jessica Simpson's presence is a draw for men actually. Or are you not attracted to female artists you don't like musically? Like a lot of guys might hate Jessica or Britney's music but still would wanna boink them, same with Madonna back in the 1980's. So because you don't like Jessica's music, her washing the General Lee in a bikini isn't enticing to you? lol.

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 03:21 PM
I thought Jessica Simpson's presence is a draw for men actually. Or are you not attracted to female artists you don't like musically? Like a lot of guys might hate Jessica or Britney's music but still would wanna boink them, same with Madonna back in the 1980's. So because you don't like Jessica's music, her washing the General Lee in a bikini isn't enticing to you? lol.I am SOOOOOOOO there. :grineyes: :drool:

Dean Winchester
08-10-2005, 03:27 PM
I am SOOOOOOOO there. :grineyes: :drool:

did you see the Daily Show skit where the guy from the show was showing this NAACP guy the clip from Jessica's video in the bikini, and the guy was still acting really hardheaded and humorless over it when the guy was joking about "you know you'd wanna ride shotgun with her"

Come on!!! If you put a "KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE" logo on top of a car and then put Beyonce or Tyra Banks in a bikini and washing the car, even the most hardened offended white person would be "HELL YEA!! HOT MAMA!!!"

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 03:29 PM
did you see the Daily Show skit where the guy from the show was showing this NAACP guy the clip from Jessica's video in the bikini, and the guy was still acting really hardheaded and humorless over it when the guy was joking about "you know you'd wanna ride shotgun with her"

Come on!!! If you put a "KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE" logo on top of a car and then put Beyonce or Tyra Banks in a bikini and washing the car, even the most hardened offended white person would be "HELL YEA!! HOT MAMA!!!"BEYONCE AND TYRA??? If yer gonna die, MIGHT AS WELL GO OUT WITH A SMILE!!!!! :D

Rene
08-10-2005, 03:34 PM
There's a scene in which Bo and Luke ride through Atlanta in blackface.


youre kidding right?

tvje
08-10-2005, 08:31 PM
As a white person from New York, I have no emotion connection to the flag one way or the other. But with what happened in the last presidental election, it is clear our nation is devided.

I have a proposal to the south, if you promose not to bring back slavery and segergation, you can have your independence, and you can have our president.

tvje
08-10-2005, 08:34 PM
did you see the Daily Show skit where the guy from the show was showing this NAACP guy the clip from Jessica's video in the bikini, and the guy was still acting really hardheaded and humorless over it when the guy was joking about "you know you'd wanna ride shotgun with her"

Come on!!! If you put a "KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE" logo on top of a car and then put Beyonce or Tyra Banks in a bikini and washing the car, even the most hardened offended white person would be "HELL YEA!! HOT MAMA!!!"

One difference for the white race, and why someone like Chris Rock is popular with caucation, is white quilt.

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 08:50 PM
I thought Jessica Simpson's presence is a draw for men actually. Or are you not attracted to female artists you don't like musically?

I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT!!

I never found these three self-important female juvenile deliquents
attractive. You call Jessica attractive? She makes me wanna :barf:

Like a lot of guys might hate Jessica or Britney's music but still would wanna boink them, same with Madonna back in the 1980's. So because you don't like Jessica's music, her washing the General Lee in a bikini isn't enticing to you? lol.


Ahh, you're not su-PERIOR! :p

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 08:56 PM
did you see the Daily Show skit where the guy from the show was showing this NAACP guy the clip from Jessica's video in the bikini, and the guy was still acting really hardheaded and humorless over it when the guy was joking about "you know you'd wanna ride shotgun with her"

Come on!!! If you put a "KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE" logo on top of a car and then put Beyonce or Tyra Banks in a bikini and washing the car, even the most hardened offended white person would be "HELL YEA!! HOT MAMA!!!"

Beyonce who? Oh, that Destiny chick. Never had a thing for her. Tyra Banks? She's actually hot? I don't see it.

BTW, when Beyonce bumped and grinded at a show in front of Grant's Tomb once, some descendants of Civil War veterans - and maybe Stephen Stills - were offended, but a descendant of Grant didn't find it in bad taste. He thought ol' Ulysses S. would have loved it. Don't know about Julia Grant, the missus, who's buried beside her husband.

P.S., Buffy: Cut the superiority complex!

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 08:58 PM
One difference for the white race, and why someone like Chris Rock is popular with caucation, is white quilt.


White quilt? No, my quilt is blue plaid. Got it at the bedding department at Macy's, I believe. ;)

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:01 PM
youre kidding right?


I wish I were, but that's what Roger Ebert repooirted in his review. As Ebert - who's married to a black woman - said, how stupid do you have to be to drive through Atlanta in blackface?

I once got offended when I saw a Puerto Rican woman wearing whiteface in NYC and I walked up to her to tell her off- until I realized she was only a mime. :rofl:

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 09:04 PM
I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT!!

I never found these three self-important female juvenile deliquents
attractive. You call Jessica attractive? She makes me wanna :barf:

HUH???!!! :confused: I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but Jessica Simpson is GORGEOUS!!!! :drool:

Or do you find her less so because of the hype around her?

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:06 PM
HUH???!!! :confused: I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but Jessica Simpson is GORGEOUS!!!! :drool:

Or do you find her less so because of the hype around her?

Maybe that's it, plus the fact that she's so :censored:in' STOO-pid! :eek:

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 09:09 PM
I wish I were, but that's what Roger Ebert repooirted in his review. As Ebert - who's married to a black woman - said, how stupid do you have to be to drive through Atlanta in blackface?

I once got offended when I saw a Puerto Rican woman wearing whiteface in NYC and I walked up to her to tell her off- until I realized she was only a mime. :rofl::lol:

And I guess it makes it almost makes about as much sense as driving through Compton with airbrushed illustrations of Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, and David Duke painted on your pickup, which cranking "Sweet Home Alabama" up to 11 on your boom car stereo, loud enough to rattle everyone's windows!! :lol:

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:28 PM
And don't ever, ever walk into a soul food joint dressed in a yachting uniform with a boombox playing Brooks and Dunn - or try to pay your bill with Canadian money! :rotflmao:

TripperFan
08-10-2005, 09:33 PM
I thought Jessica Simpson's presence is a draw for men actually. Or are you not attracted to female artists you don't like musically? Like a lot of guys might hate Jessica or Britney's music but still would wanna boink them, same with Madonna back in the 1980's. So because you don't like Jessica's music, her washing the General Lee in a bikini isn't enticing to you? lol.

I agree John - just like the original - it was all geared for guys mainly - fast, suped-up cars, the law and a beautiful woman.

Hell - I'm hetro female, but if seeing Jessica in a bikini washing that car doesn't do it for most hetro guys at least, they gotta be dead! ;)

And really, she ISN'T as dopey as they let on - she plays that up a bit - so did Marilyn Monroe - its less "threatening".

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:35 PM
I agree John - just like the original - it was all geared for guys mainly - fast, suped-up cars, the law and a beautiful woman.

Hell - I'm hetro female, but if seeing Jessica in a bikini washing that car doesn't do it for most hetro guys at least, they gotta be dead! ;)

And really, she ISN'T as dopey as they let on - she plays that up a bit - so did Marilyn Monroe - its less "threatening".

Well, you see, TripperFan, I kind of prefer European women - Brits and French mostly - because they have more class than Yankee birds.

Plus, European women are smarter. :p

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:37 PM
P.S. Canadian women - I'm kind of dating one - are smarter than American women too.

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 09:39 PM
And by the way, I refuse to see any car movie unless it involves Volkswagens. Yes, I'm a Love Bug fan - but not a Lindsay Lohan fan. :p

By the way, those Dodge Chargers were so crude.

TripperFan
08-10-2005, 09:45 PM
And don't ever, ever walk into a soul food joint dressed in a yachting uniform with a boombox playing Brooks and Dunn - or try to pay your bill with Canadian money! :rotflmao:
:rofl:

Rene
08-10-2005, 10:10 PM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050804/REVIEWS/50725002/1023

The movie has one offensive scene, alas, that doesn't belong in a contemporary comedy. Bo and Luke are involved in a mishap that causes their faces to be blackened with soot, and then, wouldn't you know, they drive into an African-American neighborhood, where their car is surrounded by ominous young men who are not amused by blackface, or by the Confederate flag painted on the car. I was hoping maybe the boyz n the hood would carjack the General, which would provide a fresh twist to the story, but no, the scene sinks into the mire of its own despond.

ABlairican Pie
08-10-2005, 10:27 PM
One difference for the white race, and why someone like Chris Rock is popular with caucation, is white quilt.So, like Steve M. says, proceed with caution if you buy white quilt? :confused: Why, does it got some sort of safety recall on it, like "not flame-retardant" or something? No worry, I wouldn't be dumb enough to smoke in bed.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't kick Jessica Simpson out for eating crackers in bed. :D

TripperFan
08-10-2005, 10:54 PM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050804/REVIEWS/50725002/1023

The movie has one offensive scene, alas, that doesn't belong in a contemporary comedy. Bo and Luke are involved in a mishap that causes their faces to be blackened with soot, and then, wouldn't you know, they drive into an African-American neighborhood, where their car is surrounded by ominous young men who are not amused by blackface, or by the Confederate flag painted on the car. I was hoping maybe the boyz n the hood would carjack the General, which would provide a fresh twist to the story, but no, the scene sinks into the mire of its own despond.


I haven't seen the movie, but that sure does sound juvenile. I mean, wake up - this is 2005 - audiences are more sophisticated than that. You'd think they would have taken the movie in that direction - actually, that sounds like it might have salvaged it! ;)

Mr. Television
08-10-2005, 10:57 PM
I haven't seen the movie, but that sure does sound juvenile. I mean, wake up - this is 2005 - audiences are more sophisticated than that. You'd think they would have taken the movie in that direction - actually, that sounds like it might have salvaged it! ;)
more proof that the movie sucks. The TV Show would never have anything like that in it.

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 11:29 PM
I haven't seen the movie, but that sure does sound juvenile. I mean, wake up - this is 2005 - audiences are more sophisticated than that. You'd think they would have taken the movie in that direction - actually, that sounds like it might have salvaged it! ;)

And yet, Hollywood keeps taking the easy way out. ohno:

Steve M.
08-10-2005, 11:35 PM
So, like Steve M. says, proceed with caution if you buy white quilt? :confused: Why, does it got some sort of safety recall on it, like "not flame-retardant" or something? No worry, I wouldn't be dumb enough to smoke in bed.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't kick Jessica Simpson out for eating crackers in bed. :D

If you have her in your bed, then you essentially do have a cracker in your bed! :lol:

The only Southern women I was ever attracted to were Mississippians Karen Graham (70's Estee Lauder model) and Sela Ward. They're smarter than the average Southern woman, not to mention smarter than most American women.

How do I know? They left Mississippi, didn't they? :D

Dean Winchester
08-11-2005, 02:34 PM
P.S., Buffy: Cut the superiority complex!

what superiority complex? I'm not the one who threadcraps everytime a Madonna thread comes up because I think I'm going to convert people who've been a fan for 20 years to my way of thinking. So you hate her, good for you. Don't post in her threads just like I don't post in threads about Clay or whoever I don't like.

I think "look, a Madonna board, let's start **** because I am that insecure because I have to let it out for the 52nd time she sucks and talk about how my folk music is better" IS a more superiority complex than pointing out that a lot of men wanna see Jessica prance around in a bikini.

Mikado
08-11-2005, 04:31 PM
im not black, but id certainly be offended by that blackface scene...I also consider the confederate flag as a rascist symbol, mainly because , after the war, rascist groups such as the KKK USED it as such, otherwise, it would simply be an historical flag of a nation that never was....as for the cross being a symbol of oppression, im sure it is to many, such as the native north Americans who had it shoved down their throats at " boarding schools " and by travelling preachers who threatened them with " a place in hell" if they didnt " see the light" . Thank goodness, MY flag only seems to represent a really nice looking tree :D

Fleet
08-13-2005, 12:23 AM
By the way, those Dodge Chargers were so crude.
That's one reason for their appeal. It's their "crude" 440 and 426-Hemi engines which propels them to 13-second 1/4 miles.
Good condition Chargers with those engines are selling for $20,000, $30,000, $50,000 and up (way up).
BTW, why would someone who posts photos of '50s and '60s VWs call Chargers "crude?" The '50s VWs didn't even have a gas gauge! And the '60s VWs had a joke of a "heater." They drew in warm air in from the engine compartment, so if there is an exhaust leak somewhere in the engine compartment, you get some nice carbon monoxide to breathe along with the air from the "heater."
And I have a road test of a '70 VW Bus... its pathetically slow engine took 44 seconds to go from 0-60 mph and it had a top speed of 65 mph! (A '68 Hemi-Charger could do 63 mph in first gear and 107 mph in second!)

Steve M.
08-13-2005, 10:57 AM
That's one reason for their appeal. It's their "crude" 440 and 426-Hemi engines which propels them to 13-second 1/4 miles.
Good condition Chargers with those engines are selling for $20,000, $30,000, $50,000 and up (way up).
BTW, why would someone who posts photos of '50s and '60s VWs call Chargers "crude?" The '50s VWs didn't even have a gas gauge! And the '60s VWs had a joke of a "heater." They drew in warm air in from the engine compartment, so if there is an exhaust leak somewhere in the engine compartment, you get some nice carbon monoxide to breath along with the air from the "heater."
And I have a road test of a '70 VW Bus... it's pathetically slow engine took 44 seconds to go from 0-60 mph and it had a top speed of 65 mph! (A '68 Hemi-Charger could do 63 mph in first gear and 107 mph in second!)


Sorry, Fleet, I was only being sarcastic and facetious.

barwars
08-13-2005, 11:58 AM
I'm not going to see it because it looks like it sucks. Just like the TV show.