Hi everyone,
I just wanted to know if there were any updates on the Kathy Page case, where she was found dead a few yards from her house and her estranged husband was the prime suspect.
I also wanted to know what y'all thought of the case. I personally thought that the husband was guilty.

Thank you in advance.

Her case is profiled at the Parents Against Corruption & Cover-up web site (thepacc.org), along with some other cases featured on UM. This includes the 1991 murder of Tommy Burkett, whose mother, Beth George, co-founded the site (she died of cancer in 2003, without ever having a resolution to her son's death).

Going back to Kathy Fulton Page, I think her husband Steve was the culprit. It's no secret that the homicide case was bungled. My suspicion is that if it weren't for Steve Page's personal connections with the police, Kathy's murder would not have been mishandled. Nor would it be unsolved.

Steve Page rubbed me the wrong way. In the UM interview, he referred to himself in third person when he claimed to be innocent. This behavior struck me as arrogant.

Admittedly, there isn't enough evidence to charge him (or anyone else) with Kathy's death. It's one thing to suspect or know that someone is guilty, but it's another to prove it.

I'll go the other way - I think he's 100% innocent of the crime. I would be offended too if I had been accused of killing my own wife even if we were estranged. Imagine having your kids wondering whether or not their father murdered their mother? - That would kind of piss me off too and cause me to be a bit arrogant or indignent.

I think Steve Page's reaction is normal given the circumstances. I mean from what the segment displayed he wasn't the one who wanted out of the marriage with Kathy but the other way around, his wife leaves him, is off having an affair on another side of town with another guy and then when she turns up dead he automatically gets the finger of blame pointed at him. I'm sorry that would make me mad too. I do hope that whomever killed Kathy Page is caught but in this scenerio I just don't see the cover up that I do in cases like "The Boys On The Tracks" and "Tommy Burkett". - It makes good copy to point the finger at Steve Page and say the jealous estranged husband flew into a violent rage and killed his wife when he found out about the affair. It would make a great "Lifetime Afternoon Movie" but in my mind if we are talking about reality (besides some obvious questions that need to be answered specifically did Steve and Kathy make love that evening) I would file this right beside Sammy Wheeler and the three fools who spent an entire segment and probably a decent amount of money creating the segment just so they could point fingers on who killed Sammy Wheeler.

In the end it was discovered Sammy was killed by a stranger in a random act of violence. Sure there was motives for all three people featured in the Wheeler case to murder Sammy but in the end I wasn't surprised it was a random killing - I wouldn't bolt out of my chair if there was an "update" to the Page case stating the exact same thing happened here.

Later.

I never knew there was an update to the Sammy Wheeler case, thanks for posting that and I do agree his twin brother, Bob Bean & Pat Snead spent the better part of the entire segment throwing the blame from one to the other and the comments were nothing short of hilarious. His brother was saying that Bob Bean was the culprit, Bob saying Pat was guilty and Pat saying it was his twin brother because she was told that he was secretly in love with her,please.. :rolleyes:

this is one of those cases that I always wonder about STILL

I have not seen this story in a while. Did Steve page have demeanor to him that was similar or comparible to that of Chad Noe or Paul Pollis? I don't recall that he did.

I have not seen this story in a while. Did Steve page have demeanor to him that was similar or comparible to that of Chad Noe or Paul Pollis? I don't recall that he did.

Well, based on all the evidence that was presented in the segment, all fingers pointed to him. I think he had the motive, and the means, and he was with her the night she was found dead. To me, it all adds up to him being guilty. I think the only reason he got off was because of his parents' connections with the police department.

For some reason, I don't know why, I want to believe this guy is innocent. I think this is a case that even UM didn't do much in the way of being balanced. The segment seemed geared toward blaming the husband. I would like to see a more balanced look at the case. I am not saying he is innocent, but something doesn't seem right about the way it all went down. Random killers typically don't stage accident scenes as in this case. It was someone that knew Kathy I think. Maybe looking at other suspects might be a good idea. If the husband is guillty or not, it doesn't appear that much effort went into the case either way.

This guy is guilty.

BUMP. Haven't seen anything on this in a while. Anyone have any further thoughts? Does everyone feel that this guy is guilty?

I don't know. I can't decide myself. I do feel that the UM segment was not very balanced. have there been any other shows that have profile this crime? Does anyone know?

I'd like to see the segment again, especially since everyone seems to be split on their opinions with this case.

From what I recall, my impression was that the estranged husband was guilty. They were no longer living together. According to Kathy's sister they hadn't been sleeping together in a while. Kathy was going out that night and Steve came to her house to watch their kids.

Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that.

Kathy left for her date at about 11:30pm. Less than 4 hours later, she was found dead 300 feet from her house. Supposedly, she died in a car accident on her way home from the date, yet she no longer had her make up or jewelry on, was strangled, and had a broken nose. There was blood on her underclothes but not her outer clothing.

I suppose one can claim that she showered at her boyfriend's house after their date, but then where was the jewelry she had been wearing that night? IIRC, it was found back at her house. She had to have come home from her date and removed her jewelry. If that happened, Steve was the last person to see her alive.

I believe the car accident was a completely staged scene. It was set up so it looked like she died in a terrible accident, but the car was 300 feet from her house and was barely damaged. She had no immediately obvious wounds, and the accident was so minor that the drink in the cup holder didn't even spill. That's just not a hard enough impact to cause death, imo. Besides, the cause of death was strangulation, and that definitely doesn't happen in a fender bender.

In the car, her feet were not toward the pedals, as if she were driving, but they were tucked back. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt but she was not thrown forward. I'm assuming that the position of the car would have indicated that the drink, her feet, and her body should have been thrown forward. The car was found with the front end pointing downward in a deep ditch.

When the police went to her house to talk to the husband, the first thing he did was indicate toward the scene of the accident, yet he supposedly had no knowledge that Kathy's body was just down the street. Supposedly, as far as he knew, she was still on her date. He then began alternating between nearly hysterical crying fits and complete composure with no sign of tears.

Among other things, I think the husband knew too much about the death scene ahead of time and lied about the sex being consensual. Kathy's boyfriend passed a polygraph and convinced the police that he was not involved in her murder. IMO, Steve Page raped and murdered his estranged wife because she was leaving him, moving on with her life, and had a new relationship with another man.

Just saw this case today on Spike. I must say, they should look more into the "Italian" family that moved into town. Clearly, if they are Italian, then they are suspects in this case, right? I mean, they must be part of the local "Mafia" as Steve put it. Why don't the police explore this mafia connection Steve speaks of??? SARCASM

Local Mafia!!!! LOL!!! Give me a break man. The fact that he even posed that theory implies his guilt to me.

Just saw this case today on Spike. I must say, they should look more into the "Italian" family that moved into town. Clearly, if they are Italian, then they are suspects in this case, right? I mean, they must be part of the local "Mafia" as Steve put it. Why don't the police explore this mafia connection Steve speaks of??? SARCASM

Local Mafia!!!! LOL!!! Give me a break man. The fact that he even posed that theory implies his guilt to me.

If they were in fact "Mafia" then it was rather unwise for Steve to have accused them of a crime, whether they did it or not.

As far as the two having consensual sex...stranger things have happened. I dated a woman (briefly) years ago that decided that her having sex w/ her ex-husband wasn't cheating. Needless to say, we had a disagreement on that point.

Honestly, given how stupid Steve appears to be and given how much circumstantial evidence points towards his guilt, I'm surprised that this one hasn't been solved before now.
This doesn't speak too highly of the DA's office in Beaumont, TX.

Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that.



I found that a little funny. Look, if my sister-law came on the air to tell the world what she doesn't think her sister (my wife) would do in the "bedroom" I think she'd be way off! Who here thinks their sister in law can predict what her sister will do in the heat of a passionate moment with you? I have my doubts. I mean come on, would Steve and Kathy be the first seperated couple in the history of the world jumping on the opportunity of one of them coming out of the shower and re-kindling a little..........magic? Of course not. This is perfectly normal.

Plus no family member wants to picture their sister making love to her soon to be ex-husband and a new boyfriend in the same night. I get that, but in the real world, this happens.

Secondly, Steve would have to be dumb to dump the body so close to his house. That's poor planning. I don't really buy it.

Also Kathy's sister stated that Steve wasn't at the house to keep an eye on Kathy but it was more for the kids. In other words, Steve wasn't too concerned about Kathy going out with another man, this coming from Kathy's sister!

Their relationship seemed much like any other one from a freshly seperated couple. Steve is a man keep in mind, he just made love to his ex-wife. For lack of a better word, he is........relieved. Ladies you'll understand this and guys you'll definitely know this but a guy is in a more relaxed and carefree state of mind after sex. Is this a time to commit murder? But maybe Steve was glad to have just gotten what he quickly wanted (consensually) and liked the idea that another guy had to deal with her issues (honestly we don't know what kind of wife Kathy was behind closed doors).

Lastly, I know it probably means nothing, but Steve was dressed up in a suit and tie in the interview. No one does that. Don't get me wrong, there have been tons of guilty men who walk around in suits all day but you get the idea that Steve could at least show some class and if he wasn't a dressy kind of guy he wouldn't have done that. There is a reason psychologically that a person who wears a leather jacket and chains to court is more likely to be found guilty than a clean cut guy with a suit.

And the r*pe thing seems fishy. How could that be done without the kids waking up? That's gambling for you.

Just watched this segment on Lifetime. IMO, the car crash was staged. There's just no way a person in a car could run off the road into a ditch and remain seated with no seatbelt and no feet on the pedals. The drink wasn't even spilled! I don't have anything special to contribute here, but I agree that UM didn't do a good job showing both sides of the story. As far as Steve's innocence, I don't think it's an open and shut case. The post before mine brought up some interesting points.

Did they ever do any DNA testing to see if Steve had sex and/or assaulted his wife? I know they said her last sex partner had had a vasectomy, and so had Steve. That, however, is a fairly common surgery among men Kim's age. If they did test the DNA, did they run it against the DNA database of convicted criminals? Was this compromised by her possible recent shower? (No jewelry, no makeup). This crime happened in 1991, was that before DNA testing became prevalent?

Any updates?

Just read the Wiki site, it says Kathy's father, James Fulton paid for the segment. That may be why it seems so biased. I'm not sure how reliable this Wiki is though.

Someone updated the UM wiki and added the father as a possible suspect, I wonder what that is about?

From the UM wiki:

Mr. Fulton beat and sexually assualted his daughter until the tender age of 14 when she finally left his home. After being confronted by a friend about her lifestyle, he went and found her at a hotel where she was prostituting. He became enraged and beat and strangled his own daughter to death. In an effort to cover his misdeeds, his family has launched a huge campaign against Kathy's husband. So far, it appears to be working.
Suspects: Steve Page, James Fulton

Someone updated the UM wiki and added the father as a possible suspect, I wonder what that is about?

From the UM wiki:

Mr. Fulton beat and sexually assualted his daughter until the tender age of 14 when she finally left his home. After being confronted by a friend about her lifestyle, he went and found her at a hotel where she was prostituting. He became enraged and beat and strangled his own daughter to death. In an effort to cover his misdeeds, his family has launched a huge campaign against Kathy's husband. So far, it appears to be working.
Suspects: Steve Page, James Fulton

Hmmmm, given that anyone can edit Wikipedia, it would not surprise me at all if Steve Page or one of his supporters wrote that.

I just found this article about the 20th anniversary of Kathy Page's death which was written only last month. It shows James Fulton and his wife looking through some investigation documents, discusses their desire to find justice and doesn't mention ANYTHING about these sexual abuse allegations or Mr. Fulton being a suspect!
http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/default/article/Vidor-father-seeks-justice-20-years-after-1377056.php

Hmmmm, given that anyone can edit Wikipedia, it would not surprise me at all if Steve Page or one of his supporters wrote that.


I completely agree with you. It's appalling that they would slander her like that, too. Calling her a prostitute after she's been dead for 20 years? I'd say it is extremely unlikely (if that were true, it would not be a new revelation 20 years later.)

I don't think Steve Page is innocent. For one he referred to himself in the third person by saying, "The evidence clearly shows that the perpetrator was someone other than Steve Page." Ok Steve you got my attention. Yet in the entire UM segement not one single shred of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) is presented in favor of Steve Page. Nothing. No alibi corraborated for the time Kathy was supposed to be on her date. Absolutely nothing.

There's really only two people who would have motive enough to become enraged and strangle her that night, and that's her lover and Steve Page. If Kathy decided to break it off with her lover that night, that could be seen as a potential motive, but that is very unlikely. She wasn't going to get all "dolled up" to go see this man at a hotel to just break it off with him. Also he passed a polygraph administered by the local law enforcement. Now Steve on the other hand would definitely seem to have the more likely motive in killing his wife. For one she lied to him and said she was going out with her girlfriend. And two, when he found out she was really at a motel with another man that probably pushed him over the edge. Kathy's body was found without her make-up and jewelry, which seems odd since she was coming from a date with her lover. It just seems blatantly obvious, IMO, that she came home after her date, removed her jewelry and changed clothes before she was murdered. And there's only one person who would have seen her after returning home from her date. Steve Page.

I think Steve Page is guilty and his family being freinds with the police is what saved him. Also seems odd that Kathy would sleep with Steve considering she had a planned night of a passion with her BF at her BFs hotel room.

I think Steve Page is guilty and his family being freinds with the police is what saved him. Also seems odd that Kathy would sleep with Steve considering she had a planned night of a passion with her BF at her BFs hotel room.

I agree. Not saying she deserved what happened, but she definitely made a mistake having the estranged husband watch their kids while she went to see her lover. She should have hired a babysitter. Obviously that's what set him off. She had to have known Steve was capable of violence.

Also seems odd that Kathy would sleep with Steve considering she had a planned night of a passion with her BF at her BFs hotel room.

Yes and her sister in the UM segment said she would never even consider touching Steve again, and that their marriage was in disrepair. I doubt she would have slept with him for that reason alone, not to mention she was planning on having a date with her boyfriend.

This case belongs up there with the Wendy Camp, Dottie Caylor types as a clear cut case of the husband/ex husband definitely did it. Steve Page murdered his ex wife. His story makes no sense. The Beaumont mafia?? Yea ok Steve.

And how the hell do you not put film in a camera before taking CRIME SCENE photos?!?!?!?

Yes and her sister in the UM segment said she would never even consider touching Steve again, and that their marriage was in disrepair. I doubt she would have slept with him for that reason alone, not to mention she was planning on having a date with her boyfriend.

I said this earlier but I can testify that I openly claimed to not want to have anything to do with a former girlfriend (we never married) on more than one occasion only to have that "moment of weakness" with each other where we end up rekindling. Of course Kathy would say that about Steve to her sister. Who among us hasn't told one of our friends to "stay away from that person". Do they always listen? Of course not because we're human and we slip up.

Honestly, do you not think that it is possible for two formerly married people to have a moment when one of them is about to have a shower? Why is that so hard to believe? And why is it hard to believe that Kathy could be involved in a random crime that doesn't implicate Steve or the lover? Or is it possible the lover is a sociopath and managed to pass the polygraph? There is more to this story than meets the eye

I said this earlier but I can testify that I openly claimed to not want to have anything to do with a former girlfriend (we never married) on more than one occasion only to have that "moment of weakness" with each other where we end up rekindling.

The night/day in question that you ended up "rekindling", did you plan on going out on a date with another woman and sleeping with her?

Honestly, do you not think that it is possible for two formerly married people to have a moment when one of them is about to have a shower? Why is that so hard to believe? And why is it hard to believe that Kathy could be involved in a random crime that doesn't implicate Steve or the lover? Or is it possible the lover is a sociopath and managed to pass the polygraph? There is more to this story than meets the eye

Yes, it's entirely possible that two former married people would sleep together, even after they've been separated for years. There is no motive for a random crime, however. Nothing was taken, the "crash" scene was staged (drinks weren't spilled in the car), her body was cleaned, she had no jewelery, and she was strangled. That rules out her lover, since she put on makeup and jewelery before she went out to go see him. However, if she returned home, took them off and showered, there's only one person who she would have encountered who would have had motive enough to kill her. Steve Page.

I said this earlier but I can testify that I openly claimed to not want to have anything to do with a former girlfriend (we never married) on more than one occasion only to have that "moment of weakness" with each other where we end up rekindling. Of course Kathy would say that about Steve to her sister. Who among us hasn't told one of our friends to "stay away from that person". Do they always listen? Of course not because we're human and we slip up.

Honestly, do you not think that it is possible for two formerly married people to have a moment when one of them is about to have a shower? Why is that so hard to believe? And why is it hard to believe that Kathy could be involved in a random crime that doesn't implicate Steve or the lover? Or is it possible the lover is a sociopath and managed to pass the polygraph? There is more to this story than meets the eye

She met her boyfriend in another town (Beaumont). She was killed and then cleaned up before being placed in the car. If the boyfriend was responsible for her death, he would have to drive Kathy's car back to Vidor and stage the accident. He would then have to get someone to come pick him up to get out of the area, which seems like a really unlikely scenario. The only reason to put Kathy in proximity to the Page house is to make Steve look guilty -so why would the lover stage a car accident?

A random crime is even less likely. Someone randomly attacked her, cleaned her up, and then staged a car accident? You only stage an accident if you are trying to save yourself from being accused of a murder. A random attacker would not do that, they would just get the hell out of the area as fast as possible.

Yes, it's entirely possible that two former married people would sleep together, even after they've been separated for years. There is no motive for a random crime, however. Nothing was taken, the "crash" scene was staged (drinks weren't spilled in the car), her body was cleaned, she had no jewelery, and she was strangled. That rules out her lover, since she put on makeup and jewelery before she went out to go see him. However, if she returned home, took them off and showered, there's only one person who she would have encountered who would have had motive enough to kill her. Steve Page.

I agree. The fact that nothing was stolen and the crime scene was staged would lead me to believe it was someone who knew her. Steve Page is guilty as sin.

The night/day in question that you ended up "rekindling", did you plan on going out on a date with another woman and sleeping with her?

It hasn't happened to me that exact way but let's not pretend it can't with other people

It hasn't happened to me that exact way but let's not pretend it can't with other people

Maybe someone youthful, who's still "sowing their wild oats", but I don't see how these are the actions of a married woman with children. Especially when her estranged husband was sleeping on the couch. She obviously did not want to be near him when she slept, why would she give in when he "approached her about sex"?

His story makes no sense. The Beaumont mafia?? Yea ok Steve.

At the beginning of the segment, Steve declares that the evidence clearly shows that the crime was committed by someone other than Steve Page. This is all he came up with. Certainly one of the most absurd theories I've heard on UM presented by an interviewee.

As Cars1986 pointed out, if there was any evidence to indicate that the murderer was someone other than Steve Page, we never saw it in the UM segment.

At the beginning of the segment, Steve declares that the evidence clearly shows that the crime was committed by someone other than Steve Page. This is all he came up with. Certainly one of the most absurd theories I've heard on UM presented by an interviewee.

I agree. He never once brought forth any type of motive as to why this "mafia" would want Kathy dead, and then stage it like it where an accident. Had the "mafia" set up a hit, IMO they would have walked up and shot her, not set the staged scene of an accident.

I'd like to see the segment again, especially since everyone seems to be split on their opinions with this case.

From what I recall, my impression was that the estranged husband was guilty. They were no longer living together. According to Kathy's sister they hadn't been sleeping together in a while. Kathy was going out that night and Steve came to her house to watch their kids.

Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that.

Kathy left for her date at about 11:30pm. Less than 4 hours later, she was found dead 300 feet from her house. Supposedly, she died in a car accident on her way home from the date, yet she no longer had her make up or jewelry on, was strangled, and had a broken nose. There was blood on her underclothes but not her outer clothing.

I suppose one can claim that she showered at her boyfriend's house after their date, but then where was the jewelry she had been wearing that night? IIRC, it was found back at her house. She had to have come home from her date and removed her jewelry. If that happened, Steve was the last person to see her alive.

I believe the car accident was a completely staged scene. It was set up so it looked like she died in a terrible accident, but the car was 300 feet from her house and was barely damaged. She had no immediately obvious wounds, and the accident was so minor that the drink in the cup holder didn't even spill. That's just not a hard enough impact to cause death, imo. Besides, the cause of death was strangulation, and that definitely doesn't happen in a fender bender.

In the car, her feet were not toward the pedals, as if she were driving, but they were tucked back. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt but she was not thrown forward. I'm assuming that the position of the car would have indicated that the drink, her feet, and her body should have been thrown forward. The car was found with the front end pointing downward in a deep ditch.

When the police went to her house to talk to the husband, the first thing he did was indicate toward the scene of the accident, yet he supposedly had no knowledge that Kathy's body was just down the street. Supposedly, as far as he knew, she was still on her date. He then began alternating between nearly hysterical crying fits and complete composure with no sign of tears.

Among other things, I think the husband knew too much about the death scene ahead of time and lied about the sex being consensual. Kathy's boyfriend passed a polygraph and convinced the police that he was not involved in her murder. IMO, Steve Page raped and murdered his estranged wife because she was leaving him, moving on with her life, and had a new relationship with another man.

Great post Tracy

Just watched this and I thought two things stood out straight away

The 'car crash' scene clearly looked choreographed. A fatal car accident would leave a vehicle with much greater damage than was found. Steve's reaction to it seemed at best to be very odd indeed...

Then there's the vesectomy thing. This fella who she's started seeing claims he went with Kathy on the night of her death (and if she's anything like the girl in the reconstruction then he was a lucky boy). He passes a lie detector to the effect of 'yeah, we had sex in a motel and then she went off'. Then a scientifc analysis confirms she got it on with someone who had had a vesectomy.

This new kid on the block had not had one and so we have three possibilities:-

1. He's lying, to the extent of successfully passing a polygraph and has come to the attention of Law Enforcement for no good reason.
2. Both men had sex with her, though the interlude with Steve may or may not have been consensual/part of the events leading to her death.
3. Most worryingly (and deeply leftfield), the test results came back with the result that was wanted by Steve's family. In the absence of evidence that supports a rape/sexual assault, anything that suggests they got it on consensually is a HUGE roadblock to a conviction.

My gut instinct - at the very least Steve knows more than he lets on, and referring to oneself in the third is bad enough when one is famous as a sportsman/actor/musician/whatever.

Last time Dazinho checked, he was none of those things...

Found this article that was made earlier this year that was written by Kathy's remaining daughter: http://texasbillboard.blogspot.com/2012/01/unsolved-mysteries.html

Found this article that was made earlier this year that was written by Kathy's remaining daughter: http://texasbillboard.blogspot.com/2012/01/unsolved-mysteries.html

I wonder if she thinks her father's guilty or not...

How did her sister die?

I wonder if she thinks her father's guilty or not...

That's what I'd like to know too

How did her sister die?

I don't know, it didn't say, but I think she died shortly before Kathy did.

From reading some of the other posts on that blog, the sister who died is Kathy's daughter Monica (the blogger's sister) and she passed in early 2011 at age 27. Kathy died in May 1991.

The lady writing the blog just worded that one post kind of oddly and it makes it sound like her sister died a couple months before Kathy did. She means two months before the 20th anniversary of their mother's death. In a different post, she says that Kathy's daughter died "19 years and 10 months" after their mother.

ATTN: Thor2000 and Unsolved243

I don't want to edit the wikia page on this case because I'm likely to make a mess out of it. But I was wondering if you would be interested in changing a bit of info posted there.

The "results" section says this: Unsolved. Steve Page is still alive and living in Texas; he has yet to be connected to the murder of his wife.

According to this 2007 article http://www.mspnews.com/news/2007/01/01/2203608.htm the murder case is still open and unsolved but Steve Page was found financially responsible for her death in Civil Court, which I guess is some bit of comfort for her survivors. Here's a quote:

Kathy Page's family, believing Steve Page killed her after she left him only two days before, brought the civil lawsuit against him.

After two mistrials, a third jury in October 1999 found in the family's favor by a margin of 11-1.

The jury awarded Kathy Page's relatives $200,000 after finding Steve Page financially liable for her death.

Kathy Page's father, who still hopes for criminal prosecution of his daughter's killer, has maintained the billboard expressing his displeasure with the investigation for years.

According to the billboard Kathy's parents erected, Steve Page's conviction was upheld by an appeals court and he also plead guilty to desecrating her grave repeatedly.

I was just thinking that this might be some useful information to add, since in a way, he actually was found to be connected to her death.

According to the billboard Kathy's parents erected, Steve Page's conviction was upheld by an appeals court and he also plead guilty to desecrating her grave repeatedly.

Wow, thanks for sharing that little tidbit of info. The bolded text really makes me think he's guiltier than hell. If he didn't kill her, why did he feel the need to repeatedly desecrate her gravesite?

From reading some of the other posts on that blog, the sister who died is Kathy's daughter Monica (the blogger's sister) and she passed in early 2011 at age 27. Kathy died in May 1991.

The lady writing the blog just worded that one post kind of oddly and it makes it sound like her sister died a couple months before Kathy did. She means two months before the 20th anniversary of their mother's death. In a different post, she says that Kathy's daughter died "19 years and 10 months" after their mother.

Thanks for clearing that up, how she worded it confused me at first

I've been reading Kathy's daughter blog and the daughter also commented on Kathy's father abuse to her in childhood.... The name of the daughter is Erin Page.

It seems objective , Erin doesn't like Steve or the Fultons, she thinks that the both parts are scum...She was raised by her dad's family but she states that Steve never take care of her after he moved to live with a girlfriend when she was just a child. So, as a parent, he was a very bad one...

But she also blame the Fulton's for other reasons.

She says: "Oh, and leave the out the sexual abuse and Kathy's troubled childhood courtesy of her father. Instead, let's just point a BIG finger at Steve Page. Maybe people will forget Kathy ran away from home. Maybe people won't realize we didn't love her until she died. Maybe this sign will make the regret and guilt go away. Just maybe..."

I wonder if they ever used DNA testing to determine once and for all if it was Steve Page who Kathy had been with? Or on any of the evidence in the car? Knowing how the case was handled by this PD, I'm wondering if they even have the evidence properly stored. Crime scene photos with no film in the camera? That's almost as bad as Sheriff Wampler burning the bed.

Anyone else ever see this article (and billboard) before? It's from 2012:

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Latest-billboard-in-Kathy-Page-slaying-may-cause-4088141.php

It's interesting that on one of the billboards it says that Steve Page was found liable for the death of Kathy in civil court.

If anyone's interested, here's Steve Page's appeal for the wrongful death civil suit that Kathy's family filed against him (it contains a lot of info left out of the UM broadcast):

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-appeals/1406707.html

Ooh! Law! Thanks for the link! :)

EDIT: Very interesting read! I'm glad to see the appellate court didn't see through Steve's B.S. on appeal. I hope this can offer Kathy's family the smallest bit of closure.

I'm not sure who threw this idea out there originally, but I always thought that Steve forced himself on Kathy after she came home from her date and killed her in the struggle, cleaned the body up, re-dressed her, and then staged the crime scene, walking back to the Page house when he was done.

I'm not sure who threw this idea out there originally, but I always thought that Steve forced himself on Kathy after she came home from her date and killed her in the struggle, cleaned the body up, re-dressed her, and then staged the crime scene, walking back to the Page house when he was done.

Fairly obvious with the way he was acting after Kathy's death that he was involved. He wouldn't even let the investigating officers into his house! If innocent, he would have no problem cooperating.

I just saw this segment and wow. I sure hope Steve Page finds the real eye-talian mafia killers one day.

Ugh. Every time Steve talked he gave me the heebie jeebies. Guilty as sin, imo.

Ooh! Law! Thanks for the link! :)

EDIT: Very interesting read! I'm glad to see the appellate court didn't see through Steve's B.S. on appeal. I hope this can offer Kathy's family the smallest bit of closure.

I'm not sure who threw this idea out there originally, but I always thought that Steve forced himself on Kathy after she came home from her date and killed her in the struggle, cleaned the body up, re-dressed her, and then staged the crime scene, walking back to the Page house when he was done.


A year later, my stance on this has not changed. Kathy's death reeks of Steve's involvement. There have been numerous studies done over the years which suggest that the time a person is most at risk for being injured/killed by a partner is WHEN THEY LEAVE THEM.

I suspect that Steve had been thinking that Kathy would eventually "come to her senses" and allow him to move back in. When he realized that she was having a full-blown affair, I suspect it became too much for him. She came home after spending the evening with her lover and and they no doubt had an argument about it. I believe Steve made another attempt to reconcile with her, which she rebuffed. At this point, I believe Steve raped and killed her, plain and simple. This was a crime that was all about establishing control. If Steve couldn't have her, no one else was going to.

I vote to convict.

A year later, my stance on this has not changed. Kathy's death reeks of Steve's involvement. There have been numerous studies done over the years which suggest that the time a person is most at risk for being injured/killed by a partner is WHEN THEY LEAVE THEM.

I suspect that Steve had been thinking that Kathy would eventually "come to her senses" and allow him to move back in. When he realized that she was having a full-blown affair, I suspect it became too much for him. She came home after spending the evening with her lover and and they no doubt had an argument about it. I believe Steve made another attempt to reconcile with her, which she rebuffed. At this point, I believe Steve raped and killed her, plain and simple. This was a crime that was all about establishing control. If Steve couldn't have her, no one else was going to.

I vote to convict.

I think you are spot on with this theory. No doubt in my mind something like that happened and Steve Page is guilty as sin.

Saw this episode today, so sad it's been so many years without a conviction. To me personally it's pretty obvious that her husband killed her after she returned home from her liaison with her lover.

I haven't read through the whole thread but apparently their youngest daughter Monica died in 2011 and the other daughter runs a blog and she blames her father for her mom's death. If you all know all this sorry... carry on lol

this was a prominent billboard in SF 5 years ago

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/16/50/77/3837897/3/920x920.jpg

Wow

Very good episode about the case on the podcast, "Southern Fried True Crime":
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/southernfriedtruecrime/2018/01/22/three-billboards-outside-vidor-texas-the-murder-of-kathy-page

It never occurred to me until listening to this that the Oscar-nominated movie, "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri", was slightly inspired by this case and the billboards which were put up by Kathy Page's family.

Very good episode about the case on the podcast, "Southern Fried True Crime":
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/southernfriedtruecrime/2018/01/22/three-billboards-outside-vidor-texas-the-murder-of-kathy-page

It never occurred to me until listening to this that the Oscar-nominated movie, "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri", was slightly inspired by this case and the billboards which were put up by Kathy Page's family.

I haven't seen the movie, but what's funny about your comment is that when I saw the title "Three Billboards," I thought of Kathy Page. At the time, I dismissed the thought because I'm an admitted UM junkie. :)

Inside Edition has been talking about Kathy Page's case lately, amid it being the inspiration for the movie "Three Billboards". I knew that her youngest daughter, Monica, died in 2011, but didn't realize she killed herself by overdosing on 25 Vicodin pills. So much tragedy. Kathy's sister, Sherry Valentine, doesn't believe her murder was premeditated, but that Steve lost control and accidentally strangled her, then panicked and tried to stage the scene to look like an accident. How do you rape someone but "accidentally" strangle them?

Inside Edition has been talking about Kathy Page's case lately, amid it being the inspiration for the movie "Three Billboards". I knew that her youngest daughter, Monica, died in 2011, but didn't realize she killed herself by overdosing on 25 Vicodin pills. So much tragedy. Kathy's sister, Sherry Valentine, doesn't believe her murder was premeditated, but that Steve lost control and accidentally strangled her, then panicked and tried to stage the scene to look like an accident. How do you rape someone but "accidentally" strangle them?

I don't think you do. I think you rape someone and then "accidentally" strangle them so they don't report you to the authorities...

Rick Page is a sick ****

Rick Page is a sick ****

Who is Rick Page?

Who is Rick Page?

Sorry. I meant Steve Page is a sick ****. Apologies to the Rick Pages of the world.

Inspiration for Oscar-nominated film in which lead won Best Actress.

http://www.insideedition.com/real-story-behind-three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-40961

Inspiration for Oscar-nominated film in which lead won Best Actress.

http://www.insideedition.com/real-story-behind-three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-40961

Do not discount the Oscar won by Sam Rockwell for Best Supporting Actor. Woody Harrelson was also nominated for the same award for the same movie.

Excellent film all around. I was highly impressed.

Sorry. I meant Steve Page is a sick ****. Apologies to the Rick Pages of the world.

:lol:

Anyone know what season/episode it is on Prime?

Season 10, ep. 2

Thanks bud.

Minor update to this case:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/04/18/us/texas-three-billboards-reward-trnd/index.html

This case was featured on Cold Justice last Saturday. There's a new witness that places Steve Page by her car, but the investigators are "still working on it."

On Kathy's daughter's blog, she makes reference to the original autopsy report saying that whoever killed Kathy was left handed. Steve Page is right handed, although some people claim to have seen him doing things (shooting a basketball, writing) with both hands. Also there are rumors that the boyfriend Kathy was meeting on the night of her death was a local married man who thought that Kathy was taking things too fast. Kathy's daughter strikes me as someone who is suspicious of her father, but isn't 100% convinced. For example, she believes that they did in fact have consensual sex on the night of Kathy's murder, because there were no signs of forcible rape. And she is not a fan of Kathy's family.

There are a lot of accusations, lies, and rumors in this case and not much actual evidence. As an outsider, it is seems so simple to look at this case and see who the obvious murderer is. People do not realize how difficult it is to believe someone you care about did something so terrible. I was probably 27 before I could even consider my father as a possible killer. Before then, the automatic response was 'NO WAY', even though I had had mostly bad experiences with my father. And who are you supposed to believe when you KNOW all the adults are lying about something. SOMETHING. I mean, my mother's sister Sherry sent a bomb threat to my bus in junior high. NOT TO STEVE. TO ME. How was I supposed to ever know who to trust?

Too bad the daughter didn’t elaborate on the bomb threat made by Kathy Page’s sister. That was out of nowhere. Can anyone confirm that UM gets paid by the subjects of the show (on occasion even) One things for sure Erin must not of watched too much of UM in the past.

Just saw this Kathy Page segment. It seems obvious what happened here.

Like many others, I strongly suspect SP of being involved in the murder & subsequent obviously staged so-called car accident. Even though he's mentioned as the "person of interest" in the case, there was no mention of whether or not any blood/DNA testing was done on Kathy's body - when there definitely should have been. I believe he has some friends in high places to have avoided getting arrested for this crime.

It's laughable how he talks about the "Beaumont mafia" as possibly being involved in KP's murder - yeah, right.

Sadly, I read that one of KP's daughters died at a young age; and, her mother (interviewed in the segment) has also passed:

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Kathy_Page

I did not know about the connection this case had to the film "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri". Very well-done but tragic movie; I'll have to re-watch this soon.

Steve isn't the most guilty sounding husband in UM history by any means, but I don't like a couple of things he says. Coming up with his own theories about the Italian family that might be involved is peculiar. Of course, there are those husbands (OJ?) that never come up with any ideas as to who killed their wife. He at least does it here, although it isn't convincing. I will say that he has got to be the stupidest husband killer of them all if he really did it.

Let's say he accidentally kills Kathy and then stages the car accident. Why do it so close to her home? It was 100 yards away from her house apparently and Steve was the one in her home babysitting her children. That's just dumb, even if you don't have a lot of time to stage it. It's still idiotic. It is worse than if Don Sherman was guilty of killing Linda (and I don't know to be honest) and he places Linda's skull outside of a restaurant he frequents a couple of times a week. If Don did that then he implicates himself instead of just keeping Linda as a missing person.

It is the same with Steve here. The location of Kathy's body automatically makes him a suspect. Why would he do this?

So I always hesitate on this one because I can see both sides of it.

You always wonder what happens to the kids of these people. Well, as we know their one daughter committed suicide in 2011, and the other one seems to hate both her dad and Kathy's family. And I have to admit, the actions of Kathy's family are bizarre as well.

I guess the classic question is if Steve didn't do it than who did? But there could be other answers to that.

Funny how this inspired an Oscar nominated movie.

Some of what he said doesn't sit well with me, and the mafia theory is laughable on its face. This reminds me a lot of Mark Nichols in that he is the obvious suspect, but there is seemingly not enough evidence for an arrest let alone a conviction.
The fact that his wife enlisted him to watch their kids so she could go off and have an affair, and that fact was essentially brushed aside in the segment, never sat well with me. Obviously that is not a justifiable reason for murder.

Some of what he said doesn't sit well with me, and the mafia theory is laughable on its face. This reminds me a lot of Mark Nichols in that he is the obvious suspect, but there is seemingly not enough evidence for an arrest let alone a conviction.
The fact that his wife enlisted him to watch their kids so she could go off and have an affair, and that fact was essentially brushed aside in the segment, never sat well with me. Obviously that is not a justifiable reason for murder.

But what moron kills his wife and then leaves her body 100 yards from her house, and where he was babysitting? That just doesn't make sense. I guess it is possible Steve could be a really, really dumb murderer, but that's a stretch. Other guys who are seemingly guilty as sin like Paul Pollis and Jule Caylor were smart enough (if they did it) to never have the body show up. Rob Page is another guy.

I have always felt the chance of this being a classic frame up against Steve has never gotten the attention it should have.

I largely agree with you. All I am saying is there doesn't seem to be a better suspect. I don't automatically think he is guilty, but who has the reason to do this? If it's a frame job, then somebody hated either Kathy or Steve, or both, enough to do it.
I also agree that other possibilities didn't seem to be investigated from what we know. No one, including Kathy's family from what the daughter later said, came out of this looking all that good.

I largely agree with you. All I am saying is there doesn't seem to be a better suspect. I don't automatically think he is guilty, but who has the reason to do this? If it's a frame job, then somebody hated either Kathy or Steve, or both, enough to do it.
I also agree that other possibilities didn't seem to be investigated from what we know. No one, including Kathy's family from what the daughter later said, came out of this looking all that good.

Its funny, because normally you sympathize with the family of the deceased. I guess in a way I do, but dang they just never appeared likeable to me. I mean, either they are right about Steve and the billboards all over town are legit, or they literally have ruined a man's life - who is the father of their children (or at least one child left at least) - who has been falsely accused for over 20 years. You'd better be sure you're right if you are doing that sort of thing.

There could have been the man's wife or ex-wife she was with the night she died that was involved. Heck, even the man she was with I have to wonder just how much he knew or saw. He's with her, spends time with her at a hotel and then she doesn't get home and ends up in a bad staged accident? I don't know.

Steve Page comes off as one of the most unlikeable husbands from UM. I think there might be a thread for that. Interesting that Kathy's family also comes off as unlikeable as well, although I did not see it that way. I've only seen the UM segment and have seen it several times lately.

things really make me cringe about Steve's interview. "I approached her for sex" that just sounded strange. "I'm paying for her actions" I know he was alluding to her affair, but good lord she's the one that got killed. it just seems like a very selfish comment to make. and the "Italian family" seems very stereotypical and in all my years of living in Texas I never heard of the Beaumont Italian Mafia. Steve seems like a prick after watching that interview.

But what moron kills his wife and then leaves her body 100 yards from her house, and where he was babysitting? That just doesn't make sense. I guess it is possible Steve could be a really, really dumb murderer, but that's a stretch. Other guys who are seemingly guilty as sin like Paul Pollis and Jule Caylor were smart enough (if they did it) to never have the body show up. Rob Page is another guy.

I have always felt the chance of this being a classic frame up against Steve has never gotten the attention it should have.

Because it was a crime of passion and anger and not long-term premeditation, hence strangulation. Strangulation is a very personal and impulsive way to take someone's life. Also, listening to the guy talk for 30 seconds and its clear he's below average intelligence.

Page discovered that Kathy was with another man while she was out. He stewed and plotted, waiting for her to come home. He raped her and killed her.

A few things:

Funny how Page was so eager to babysit his daughters that evening, but once Kathy was murdered he all but ceased contact with them. Not consistent with a loving father obsessed with parenthood. Page was there to snoop on Kathy that day and confirm his suspicions she was seeing a man.

All the motive, opportunity, physical and forensic evidence points only to this guy murdering his wife...

Unfortunately, the likely reason detectives and cops never pursued husband Page is due to his connections and the socio-political environment of a rural, conservative area of Texas in the early 90s. Things were far more misogynistic and chauvinistic then, and the good Ol' boys likely considered a woman who would leave her husband and have sex with another man "Got what was coming to her".

Its funny, because normally you sympathize with the family of the deceased. I guess in a way I do, but dang they just never appeared likeable to me. I mean, either they are right about Steve and the billboards all over town are legit, or they literally have ruined a man's life - who is the father of their children (or at least one child left at least) - who has been falsely accused for over 20 years. You'd better be sure you're right if you are doing that sort of thing.

There could have been the man's wife or ex-wife she was with the night she died that was involved. Heck, even the man she was with I have to wonder just how much he knew or saw. He's with her, spends time with her at a hotel and then she doesn't get home and ends up in a bad staged accident? I don't know.

The crime scene was ludicrously staged feet from where the husband was at the time. You'd have to be pretty freaking bold to even think of something like that. It would have taken a lot of leg work and organization for someone other than Page to do something so crazy and feel confident to not be spotted.

Its real life. Not the movies. People commit those sorts of acts where they are familiar and comfortable with the area. Like a guy who lived 100 ft away.

Page hasnt been cleared and all rational minds point to him. He's lucky billboards are all Kathy supporters have done to him.

Kathy's car was found at this (https://www.google.com/maps/place/450+Green+St,+Vidor,+TX+77662/@30.1260978,-94.0236244,3a,75y,114.71h,85.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBwMD5kUc1NqKR8UwehD9-w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.377421363738506%26panoid%3DBwMD5kUc1NqKR8UwehD9-w%26yaw%3D114.707708309085!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x86394b19487a264b:0x6927f3f13ee56d76!8m2!3d30.1250918!4d-94.0229503!16s%2Fg%2F11c22qqsr4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDYwMy4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) location, and according to the police the car was facing away from the house she lived in (which is on the street directly in front of the car location two houses down on the right). I entertained the thought that someone else (the unnamed boyfriend) could have done harm to Kathy who tried to set up or frame Steve for it, but the boyfriend wouldn't have been able to ditch the car and walk back to the motel in Beaumont. Unless the boyfriend (or another unknown assailant) had an accomplice that helped them, and there is zero evidence to suggest that...Steve at a minimum, disposed of the car with Kathy's body in it. I say at a minimum (even though deep down I believe he killed Kathy) because I was rereading Steve page's appeal over the civil court case that found him to be responsible for Kathy's death and some oddities stuck out to me. A friend of Kathy's was named Roger Howell. From the appeal (bolded emphasis mine):

Diane Daigle, Kathy's sister, received the news through a call to Crystal Beach around 6:30 a.m. She called Roger Howell and asked him to go be with Steve.

Roger Howell testified that Diane Daigle called him around 8:00 a.m. and asked him to check on Steve. He also claimed that she asked him to look into what had happened to Kathy, although Diane denied it. Roger went to Kathy's place of employment and asked her co-workers about men Kathy might have been seeing.

Erin and Monica woke up at 8:00, having slept through the night and early morning without hearing anything unusual. Someone laundered sheets soiled by one of the girls.

Before lunch, Roger Howell called Charlotte Swearingen at work and told her Kathy was dead. She wondered how he knew to call her there because it was her first day working at this new job.

At the funeral home on Thursday, Steve appeared to feel faint. Roger Howell told Jimmy Fulton that Kathy had gotten wild. Roger asked to view Kathy's body. Jimmy agreed. Roger asked Jimmy to leave the room. Jimmy refused, but did turn his back. Roger touched Kathy's face and body, and made a sketch of her face on a piece of paper. Roger, however, denied touching Kathy, sketching her, taking any pictures, taking any jewelry off of her, or putting any jewelry on her.

If all of this is true, then this guy seems sketchy to me. How would he have known where to contact Kathy's friend Charlotte at her new job? Why did he tell Kathy's brother at the funeral home where his sister was dead that she was "wild"? Why was he showing up at Kathy's job asking if she had been seeing any men on the morning of her death? Why did he ask (and sketch) to see Kathy's corpse alone? If the guy was just a concerned friend of Kathy and Steve, all of the above is very weird to me.

I think in this case it’s obvious Steve did it, the issue is proof which is more difficult, especially if it’s a cover up