I will never pay for a syndicated version on DVD because I could just record the eps myself off cable-Example, Cosby show-lol I know some of you made find this to be extra picky but when I found out 10 seconds were cut from one of the Three's Company season 4 DVD, i never went to go buy it. I still will but it's not a big rush because I want the COMPLETE 4th season, not a 4th season with a missing tag scene. So who else refuses to pay a dime for a TV SHOW on DVD that is CUT? I may pay if it's a short-lived tv show but that's it

If the show doesn't air on cable, I'll get it even if its cut, but like you.... its less of a priority.

With stuff like The Cosby Show, I don't need to pay for something that I can get on TV for free. Luckily, I'll be getting it on DVD for free, so I won't have to worry.

If the show doesn't air on cable, I'll get it even if its cut, but like you.... its less of a priority.

With stuff like The Cosby Show, I don't need to pay for something that I can get on TV for free. Luckily, I'll be getting it on DVD for free, so I won't have to worry.


So you would still watch a CS DVD even if someone gave it to you for free? Not me

So you would still watch a CS DVD even if someone gave it to you for free? Not me

Why not? I watch it on TV cut, why not on my own schedule?

it depends, is the show currently airing? If something like Gimme A Break, One Day At A Time or The Facts Of Life turned out to be the edited episodes (don't get any idea Universal or Sony!!), I would still want to have them because I love the shows and it's not like I'm going to see them on N@N, TBS, TV Land, USA, whatever, I'd be disapointed but I'd still buy them.

I love The Cosby Show and was excited to own the episodes in the form I haven't seen them in since I was five years old. If Best Buy or someone runs a sale for it for $17.99 like they did ALF (which was also notoriously cut), I might consider it, but why pay over $30 when I could get the same versions off TBS or N@N for the purchase of a blank tape?

Depends on the price, like BS79 said. I'm still not sure if I'm getting TCS, but there's no way I'm paying $35+ for it now. I want to see what Urbanworks' excuse is and if they intend to fix this, especially after the lie in their press release.

Why not? I watch it on TV cut, why not on my own schedule?


The only thing that could be exciting about a Cosby show DVD is seeing them UNCUT. Me and you both have seen those first season eps over and over so it's nothing I'm going to put in my DVD player

To me in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal. I mean it would be simply awesome if every show that comes out on DVD was the complete unedited, music in tact show that that you watched on TV. I mean take ALF or the Cosby Show which used the syndicated versions instead of the originals what's missing like 2 minutes? When Seinfeld came out and said the episodes haven't been seen since it's original airing. I've been watching Seinfeld reruns for almost 10 years and I didn't notice a single diffrence. So if that's what the other syndicated shows are like and that's all we get, fine by me. At least we get the show on DVD. For me owning the show is the most important thing, a few minutes or music that's diffrent dosen't really matter I just want my show. I'm not saying I agree with what some studios are doing but i'm just saying if you really want your show isn't that what's important? Also the music thing I know alot of people on the internet have complained about Quatum Leap, Wonder Years & Freaks & Geeks and many many others, saying they won't buy it, how it won't be the same. I can't understand that because for me music is great but if missing i'm not going to not get it. An example Keen Eddie came out on DVD last year it was my favourite show and some of the music was missing. But all the music I liked on the show I just downloaded anyway, so while I noticed some missing stuff it just dosen't bother like it does others. For me like I said the show is the most important thing.

Sorry it got a little long.

The only thing that could be exciting about a Cosby show DVD is seeing them UNCUT. Me and you both have seen those first season eps over and over so it's nothing I'm going to put in my DVD player

The first season is my favorite though. Especially the pilot, the whole "Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No wonder you get Ds in school" conversation between Cliff and Theo is the funniest scene of the entire series, and has me laughing out loud everytime I see it.

To me in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal. I mean it would be simply awesome if every show that comes out on DVD was the complete unedited, music in tact show that that you watched on TV. I mean take ALF or the Cosby Show which used the syndicated versions instead of the originals what's missing like 2 minutes? When Seinfeld came out and said the episodes haven't been seen since it's original airing. I've been watching Seinfeld reruns for almost 10 years and I didn't notice a single diffrence. So if that's what the other syndicated shows are like and that's all we get, fine by me. At least we get the show on DVD. For me owning the show is the most important thing, a few minutes or music that's diffrent dosen't really matter I just want my show. I'm not saying I agree with what some studios are doing but i'm just saying if you really want your show isn't that what's important? Also the music thing I know alot of people on the internet have complained about Quatum Leap, Wonder Years & Freaks & Geeks and many many others, saying they won't buy it, how it won't be the same. I can't understand that because for me music is great but if missing i'm not going to not get it. An example Keen Eddie came out on DVD last year it was my favourite show and some of the music was missing. But all the music I liked on the show I just downloaded anyway, so while I noticed some missing stuff it just dosen't bother like it does others. For me like I said the show is the most important thing.

Sorry it got a little long.

well, I'll put it in a different way.

If one of your favorite albums of all time was remastered on CD, but however, 20 seconds were shaved off each song, would you still wanna buy it?

So you honestly think Sony should go "screw complete Seinfeld episodes" and release the syndicated abominations that air 6 times a day on TBS on DVD instead?

I agree to a degree that having most of a program is better than none. But it's the principal of the thing. Why should we spend our money on a half-assed product? UrbanWorks claimed in the press release that we'd be getting full, uncut episodes. They haven't lived up to their promise, and it's pretty clear to me that they aren't trying to put out a quality release that fans have been looking forward to for years; they're simply trying to find the easiest and cheapest way to make money.

The Full Length Episode I thought is what viewers paid for. The quality is no big deal, I want to see the Network Versions.

well, I'll put it in a different way.

If one of your favorite albums of all time was remastered on CD, but however, 20 seconds were shaved off each song, would you still wanna buy it?

So you honestly think Sony should go "screw complete Seinfeld episodes" and release the syndicated abominations that air 6 times a day on TBS on DVD instead?

Talking about cds, something like that did happen when Prince's 1999 was originally released. My favorite, I mean favorite song, D.M.S.R. was left off the original pressings because a single cd at that time could only hold a certain amount of music. Knowing that, I bought the cd anyway because at the time that was my only option to have that album on cd.

I don't think it's wrong for Felix to feel the way he does. For some people it's just not so important to have the exact original broadcast version of a show on dvd. For some, just having the show is enough, and I can accept their side too. I agree with most here of course that releases should be original and complete, and I'm more likely to not buy something if I know that it's edited. But if it's not a big deal for other consumers, that's okay for them. One person said that the missing footage isn't a big deal, another says that (good) quality isn't a big deal. Neither is wrong if that's their preferences. The only ones wrong in this situation are the companies who knowingly or not put out incomplete or edited product.

TJ posted a link to the Cosby review, it's online now.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/thecosbyshowseason1dvdreview.html

To me, the best part about having shows on DVD is to have them uncut with clear picture and no annoying bugs in the corner of the screen. So whenever I find that a set is edited, I get ticked off. If it's one of my favorite shows, I'd still buy it, as I did for "ALF". However, I've had the season 1 ALF set for almost a year now, I I've only watched a little bit of it. But of course with ALF, I hadn't seen the show in years. Had it been played like "The Cosby Show", I might not have bought it, especially since I now have a DVD recorder.

However with "Too Close for Comfort", I bought season 1, unaware that it was edited episodes. I fell in love with the show, and still planned on buying the rest of the series, edited. Luckily, season 2 was uncut.

As for "Saved by the Bell", it ticks me off so much. I was excited when I thought I was getting the show uncut. And maybe a few of the episodes in the set were uncut (some had the original opening, others didn't). As most of you know, SBTB were mostly syndicated episodes. Fortunately, "The College Years" and "The New Class" are handled by Image Entertainment, uncut. Hopefully they'll do the original series right.

I'm not a fan of "The Cosby Show" and I wasn't planning to buy the set. But I still feel bad for the people who like the show and want the uncut episodes.

To me, the best part about having shows on DVD is to have them uncut with clear picture and no annoying bugs in the corner of the screen. So whenever I find that a set is edited, I get ticked off. If it's one of my favorite shows, I'd still buy it, as I did for "ALF". However, I've had the season 1 ALF set for almost a year now, I I've only watched a little bit of it. But of course with ALF, I hadn't seen the show in years. Had it been played like "The Cosby Show", I might not have bought it, especially since I now have a DVD recorder.

However with "Too Close for Comfort", I bought season 1, unaware that it was edited episodes. I fell in love with the show, and still planned on buying the rest of the series, edited. Luckily, season 2 was uncut.

As for "Saved by the Bell", it ticks me off so much. I was excited when I thought I was getting the show uncut. And maybe a few of the episodes in the set were uncut (some had the original opening, others didn't). As most of you know, SBTB were mostly syndicated episodes. Fortunately, "The College Years" and "The New Class" are handled by Image Entertainment, uncut. Hopefully they'll do the original series right.

I'm not a fan of "The Cosby Show" and I wasn't planning to buy the set. But I still feel bad for the people who like the show and want the uncut episodes.




I'm not that bothered by the news either but if this happened with a show like Three's Company or the Jeffersons, i would be STEAMED!!!!-lol

speaking of Too Close For Comfort. Rhino heard the fans outcry after season 1 was edited and redeemed the series for fans by doing seasons 2 and 3 uncut. Do you think if Urbanworks hears the complaints loudly enough, they will fix their Cosby errors?

speaking of Too Close For Comfort. Rhino heard the fans outcry after season 1 was edited and redeemed the series for fans by doing seasons 2 and 3 uncut. Do you think if Urbanworks hears the complaints loudly enough, they will fix their Cosby errors?
They should and they should do season 1 over again and make them un-edited too, but the people who bought the edited versions probably wouldn't be happy about spending their money twice.

speaking of Too Close For Comfort. Rhino heard the fans outcry after season 1 was edited and redeemed the series for fans by doing seasons 2 and 3 uncut. Do you think if Urbanworks hears the complaints loudly enough, they will fix their Cosby errors?


I believe they will. I sincerely believe that's why they delayed the release of the second volume of Fat Albert cartoons. I can't think of any other reason why they'd delay it other than they realize they didn't have complete eps on the first volume. How the Cosby Show ended up like this is inexplicable though. They should have learned from the Fat Albert situation. I also think Carsey/Werner needs to step in if they're not hands-on directly involved in seeing that their complete episodes are being released.

They should and they should do season 1 over again and make them un-edited too, but the people who bought the edited versions probably wouldn't be happy about spending their money twice.


I can see them doing it again but I don't think they'd outright have people pay again. If they're smart they'll have some sort of trade-in offer or maybe a half price rebate on a complete season 2 if you bought an incomplete season 1. Something where consumers won't be paying for a corrected set after buying an incomplete set. Do something with the proof of purchase tabs and just send a corrected set to consumers free of extra charge. Something!

too bad Fox didn't release it like originally planned. It's pretty obvious Fox released God, The Devil And Bob because they figured "if we release this crap, we're going to be able to do the shows that matter, like The Cosby Show, A Different World and Roseanne". LOL.... fate wasn't in their cards. Even though I bet Fox would've done a better job with TCS than Urbanworks did.

I've never heard of Urbanworks before. What else have they released?

I've never heard of Urbanworks before. What else have they released?

They're best known for releasing Black movies, mostly independent, low budget stuff. They've also released comedy specials, I believe they've put out stuff from Sinbad and Robert Townsend. A previous tv release they did was the first season of Streetball, a series that airs on ESPN. I have that release and there are no problems with it, but then it's only 8 episodes and a far cry from the Cosby Show. Bill Cosby is friends with one of (if the not the head person) leaders of Urbanworks, so that's how come they got Fat Albert, Cosby Show and A Different World over other studios. So far, a bad job with the first volume of Fat Albert and it looks like bad job #2 with Cosby for the same reason: incomplete episodes.

I am a amazed that a sitcom would have to be edited for a dvd?! There are no commercials to air, so why cut them?!?

i bought Will & Grace season 3 and found out the episodes were edited.....But that didnt stop me from buying seasons 1 & 2....i guess i just dont seem to care about full-length episodes...unless its a show i really like................

i bought Will & Grace season 3 and found out the episodes were edited.....But that didnt stop me from buying seasons 1 & 2....i guess i just dont seem to care about full-length episodes...unless its a show i really like................



I wonder why Will and Grace eps would be edited on DVD??? The show is only 7 years old. That sounds ODD

I don't think it's wrong for Felix to feel the way he does. For some people it's just not so important to have the exact original broadcast version of a show on dvd. For some, just having the show is enough, and I can accept their side too. I agree with most here of course that releases should be original and complete, and I'm more likely to not buy something if I know that it's edited. But if it's not a big deal for other consumers, that's okay for them. One person said that the missing footage isn't a big deal, another says that (good) quality isn't a big deal. Neither is wrong if that's their preferences. The only ones wrong in this situation are the companies who knowingly or not put out incomplete or edited product.

Thanks Vashti. Sorry Buffy and to anyone else who thought I don't care that these things are happening on TV DVD. I think every show that comes out on DVD should be unedited music in tact packed with special features and it makes me sad every time I read anoather show is going down that road. Both for the fans and the show. But for me personally (and sometimes I feel I'm the only one on the Internet who feels this way) its all about getting my favourite show on DVD, and i'm ususally just happy and excited because of that. It's a great feeling that I get to own this show and watch any episode whenever I want.

About the music thing again I was talking to my cousin the other day who is a huge Wonder Years fan and everytime I went over to their house and it was on I had to watch. It's the only show she wants on DVD and because I've heard how the music is so essential to the show from people on the internet and how it would be a crime to replace it, I asked her if she remembered the music and she said no and said if it was replaced it woulden't be that big of a deal. So people are diffrent and while I can sympathize with people who want their show the way they want it and feel really bad when it dosen't. People are diffrent I guess.

I wonder why Will and Grace eps would be edited on DVD??? The show is only 7 years old. That sounds ODD

W&G is distributed through Lion's Gate, which doesn't really have the greatest reputation for a DVD company. They were responsible for the infamous ALF DVD.

well, Fox seems to have issues with Wonder Years and music as well. But I suppose it's good that they are trying to clear music rights instead of pulling a Universal and not even bothering. Granted, a lot of music on TV shows is expendable, but some shows do have "their songs". Like I think a lot of Family Ties fans would be pissed if "At This Moment" doesn't appear on the season 5 DVD whenever it comes out, because the song was so important to the show. Some of the WB shows are examples of this. Dawson's Creek is boycotted by a lot of fans, who aren't quite as offended that "some" music is missing off Popular or Felicity or Roswell. Why? DC replaced ALL licensed music, even the theme song. The other shows selected, while Filter's "Take A Picture" which played in the background in a scene at the diner on Roswell was deemed expendable and replaced on the DVD, "Crash Into Me" by Dave Matthews and "I Shall Believe" by Sheryl Crow, which played crucial parts during important scenes, were left entact, and Fox still managed to use the theme song, which was Dido's "Here With Me". On Popular, a LOT AND LOT of songs were missing, the most obvious being a "I didn't know you work out listening to Sheena Easton" reference, when the song on the DVD playing was obviously not Sheena Easton, some songs were used, including all the Madonna songs. I read that it was Maddy's favorite tv show when it aired so maybe she cut them an offer they couldn't refuse to use her songs, and there's like five Madonna tracks used in the two seasons. On The other hand, EVERYTHING from Dawson's Creek was replaced, Sony couldn't even use the Paula Cole theme song, which was synonymous with the show.

I Am Gonna Buy This When It Comes Out...My Best Buy Has A First Week Savings Program (This Past Week I Got Titus For $29.96 Without Tax) Where They Take Off Anywhere Between $10-$15 Of new Releases, And If They Do Do A Second Season Unedited But Don't Redo The First Season Than I Would Feel Empty With Out The First Season Even If It Was Edited, However If The Second Season Is Edited Ill Sell My Set In A Heart Beat. I Funny Thing Is I Have A DVD Recorded And I Still Wanna Buy This...

I will never pay for a syndicated version on DVD

me either.

I want the ORIGINAL broadcast run on DVD.

With stuff like The Cosby Show, I don't need to pay for something that I can get on TV for free. Luckily, I'll be getting it on DVD for free, so I won't have to worry.


I won't buy either.

As long the show is STILL on tv, why buy the DVD seasons?

It is a waste of money.

I am mostly interest in the 1970's shows.

We hardly see them on TV any more.

speaking of Too Close For Comfort. Rhino heard the fans outcry after season 1 was edited and redeemed the series for fans by doing seasons 2 and 3 uncut. Do you think if Urbanworks hears the complaints loudly enough, they will fix their Cosby errors?

I still won't buy the first season of Too Close For Comfort.

I want all UNCUT versions of all tv shows on DVD.

They should and they should do season 1 over again and make them un-edited too.

they should!

then i will buy the first season.

DC replaced ALL licensed music, even the theme song.

I heard they did the same thing with the first season of Married With Children.

the song, Love And Marriage.

As much I loved the BUNDYS, I won't buy the first season.

all songs are important as the UNCUT episodes.

I agreed with the music on THE WONDER YEARS.

the music played a IMPORTANT ROLE on The Wonder Years.

So, why replaced the music?

I heard they did the same thing with the first season of Married With Children.

the song, Love And Marriage.

As much I loved the BUNDYS, I won't buy the first season.

all songs are important as the UNCUT episodes.

I agreed with the music on THE WONDER YEARS.

the music played a IMPORTANT ROLE on The Wonder Years.

So, why replaced the music?

music shareholders can be quite greedy sometimes, and the companies aren't always willing to suck up to the demands.

I heard they did the same thing with the first season of Married With Children.

the song, Love And Marriage.

As much I loved the BUNDYS, I won't buy the first season.

all songs are important as the UNCUT episodes.

I agreed with the music on THE WONDER YEARS.

the music played a IMPORTANT ROLE on The Wonder Years.

So, why replaced the music?


The First Two Seasons Of MWC Have The Origional Theme, The Third Has A New One And No Word On The Forth One Yet...

The fourth one will have the same music as the third one.

am I the only person who skips the opening credits after maybe seeing it once or twice the season? I'll only watch them in the instances that the next chapter doesn't start as soon as the song ends.

While I watched all of Taxi season 1 and 2, I think I saw the opening credits with the Bob James music and the taxicab driving on the bridge about 5 times total when viewing the sets.

am I the only person who skips the opening credits after maybe seeing it once or twice the season? I'll only watch them in the instances that the next chapter doesn't start as soon as the song ends.

While I watched all of Taxi season 1 and 2, I think I saw the opening credits with the Bob James music and the taxicab driving on the bridge about 5 times total when viewing the sets.



I will defintly skip the Fresh Prince opening credits when I buy season 1

am I the only person who skips the opening credits after maybe seeing it once or twice the season?

I don't skip the credits at all.

I enjoyed them so much.

I will defintly skip the Fresh Prince opening credits when I buy season 1

Fresh Prince has one of the best themesongs, thats one of the only series I dont mind listening to the themesong to.

Most of the time, I always skip the themesong. Unless it's Cheers or The Jeffersons, because I think those are good songs regardless.

Fresh Prince has one of the best themesongs, thats one of the only series I dont mind listening to the themesong to.

Most of the time, I always skip the themesong. Unless it's Cheers or The Jeffersons, because I think those are good songs regardless.


The Jeffersons Theme Song?-lol Barwars that was my favorite show but the Theme Song was HORRIBLE!!!

The Jeffersons Theme Song?-lol Barwars that was my favorite show but the Theme Song was HORRIBLE!!!

Fish don't fry in the kitchen....


I think I could listen to it all day long.

While I watched all of Taxi season 1 and 2, I think I saw the opening credits with the Bob James music and the taxicab driving on the bridge about 5 times total when viewing the sets.

I'd watch the season 1 opening credits with the show. But season 2, it was twice as long, so I usually skip over it.

Fish don't fry in the kitchen....


I think I could listen to it all day long.



barwars, the jeffersons was a great show but theme song was bad. i have to agree with the tv guide critic-lol