The nominees for this year's Emmy Awards will be announced this Thursday, July 14. In the sitcom categories, the pickings appear to be fairly slim, so expect many of the same names to show up, including "Everybody Loves Raymond", which will get many sentimental votes since the series has recently ended. Here are my choices for the shows that will not only be nominated, but might also win the Emmys themselves:


BEST SERIES --- Two and a Half Men

BEST ACTOR --- Charlie Sheen "Two and a Half Men"

BEST ACTRESS --- Debra Messing "Will and Grace"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR --- Peter Boyle "Everybody Loves Raymond"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS --- Doris Roberts "Everybody Loves Raymond"

BEST WRITING --- Scrubs

BEST DIRECTOR --- James Burrows (pick any series)

BEST NEW COMEDY SERIES (if necessary) --- Joey

The next 2 categories aren't major ones but I like them anyway. They tend to distinguish between celebrities that can really act compared to those who are only in it for the money (like Jennifer Lopez on "Will and Grace").

OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- MALE Michael J. Fox "Scrubs"

OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- FEMALE Lucy Liu "Joey"

One final thought: Whether it gets in as a comedy or a drama, "Desperate Housewives" will clean up big time. I predict it will win at least 4 Emmys, including Best Drama Series, Best Actress In A Drama Series, and maybe Best New Drama Series, if the Emmys decide to add that in. What do you think? Should new shows be recognized with their own awards? I would love to see it.

I doubt 'Desperate Housewives' will be entered the Drama category. It's always being entered in comedy categories and it's more of a comedy than a drama too. I don't buy that crap that the show is a 'soap', it's more of a dark comedy than anything else.

And in my opinion, if they give Teri Hatcher an Emmy, I will puke. Marcia Cross deserves it more and had better material this season.

Somehow I don't see 'Joey' even being nominated and I hope to God it doesn't as well.

Desperate Housewives is going to be classified as a comedy. I'm a huge fan, but I really don't want it to win. Arrested Development deserves it, yet again. I wouldn't be shocked to see ELR take it though.


ELR, AD, and DH will all definitely be nominted for "Outstanding Comedy Series", with the other two spots going to either Will & Grace, Two & A Half Men, or Scrubs.

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.

Somehow I don't see 'Joey' even being nominated and I hope to God it doesn't as well.


ditto

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.


Yea I think it should be put in the drama category. Their are a lot of dramas over the years that had comedic elements in them and were nominated as a drama. The one big exception was Alley McBeal. I think if they do it, it will be to strengthen up the comedy category because after ELR leaves after this years awards you really don't have a strong emmy show in the category anymore.

Yeah, I think DH really belongs in the drama category.

These are my personal choices for who I want to win in the comedy categories:

Outstanding Comedy: Arrested Development [Although DH would be awesome, too.]
Outstanding Lead Actor: Jason Bateman (AD)
Outstanding Lead Actress: Marcia Cross (DH)
Outstanding Supporting Actor: David Cross or Will Arnett (AD)
Outstanding Supporting Actress: Jessica Walter (AD)

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.

well, dramas are going strong last year, even without DH, it'd be a stronger catagory than sitcoms would be without DH. There's nothing wrong with DH being classified as a comedy, it made me laugh more than Everybody Loves Raymond ever has or the past three seasons of Will And Grace. Being classified a comedy isn't the kiss of death.

If Sex And The City was a comedy, so is Housewives, the only reason people see any difference in the genres of the two shows is that S&TC was 30 minutes and DH is an hour.

Desperate Housewives is a dark comedy, kinda like Six Feet Under is in a way. The comedic elements of DH usually drive some part of the storyline. Without comedy, DH would be just another boring drama.

Desperate Housewives is a dark comedy, kinda like Six Feet Under is in a way. The comedic elements of DH usually drive some part of the storyline. Without comedy, DH would be just another boring drama.

I don't think Six Feet has very much comedy to it. To me, DH is basically what Sex And The City would've been like if expanded to an hour. I believe both shows were in the same genre, it's just easier to call Sex a comedy cause it's 30 mins and Housewives a drama because it's 60, but I think they both have about the same amount of mixture of comedy and drama.

If you notice so many Sex fans are calling DH "the perfect substitution" since S&TC's gone.

I don't think Six Feet has very much comedy to it. To me, DH is basically what Sex And The City would've been like if expanded to an hour. I believe both shows were in the same genre, it's just easier to call Sex a comedy cause it's 30 mins and Housewives a drama because it's 60, but I think they both have about the same amount of mixture of comedy and drama.

If you notice so many Sex fans are calling DH "the perfect substitution" since S&TC's gone.


True, but I think the comedic elements of DH is what makes it so special. By comedy driving the storylines indirectly, it sets it apart from other shows on the air. Without the comedic elements, DH would've just been anothr Knots Landing rip-off.

Desperate Housewives has a definite chance at winning the Emmy for Best Comedy.

If it were going for Best Drama, it's chances wouldn't be so good.

I personally view DH as a primetime soap in the veins of the 80s shows, simply because Marc Cherry has stated several times that he didn't plan on it being soapy, but as he continued to develope it, he decided to put it in the soap category. ABC even promoted it as the next big primetime soap...why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?

why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?

That's not the problem. It's where they'll be able to win the most. In the comedy categories, there is no major competition. ELR has only this year, and Arrested Development is the only other series that will give DH a run for its money.

With DH classified as a comedy, ABC could possibly take home "Best Comedy" and "Best Drama" (Lost).

I Really Hope Desprete Housewives Is In The Comedy Section Even Though I Would Like To See Raymond Win It In It's last Year Becasue I Think Lost Deserves The Best Drama Title Because In My Opinion Lost Had More Of That Drama Appel To Me, However That Won't Do Any Favors For Arrested Development Becasue I Think That With DH In The Comedy Section AD Won't Be Any Competion For It

I think this article sums up DH well.

Dramedy, shmamedy, 'Housewives' a comedy
Posted: Oct. 2, 2004
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Joanne Weintraub
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The premiere of "Desperate Housewives" makes it obvious, in case it wasn't already clear, that "comedy-drama," "dramedy" and even "satire" don't fit every one-hour series that isn't flat-out serious.

This one's a comedy, pure and simple. Well, OK, not so simple. And, with a suicide before the first commercial, not so pure.

Still, there hasn't been a moment in any new sitcom this season as funny as the one where "Housewives" star Teri Hatcher ("Lois & Clark"), as lovelorn divorced mom Susan Mayer, accidentally starts a fire in the house of her romantic rival, brazen bombshell Edie Britt (Nicollette Sheridan, "Knots Landing").

And I've yet to hear a comeback as snappy as harried mom Lynette Scavo's (Felicity Huffman, "Sports Night") warning to her whining children that she acquired Santa's secret cell phone number from "someone who knows someone who knows an elf."

As the suicide, the fire and even the threatening mom suggest, this is a black comedy, the kind more at home on cable. And while it doesn't have either the profanity or the polish of, say, HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm" or even Showtime's "Dead Like Me," it's both more sophisticated and more fun than most network comedies or dramas.

Guided from the beyond

The action is narrated by the late but lively Mary Alice Young (Brenda Strong), the suicide victim herself, as she observes her former neighbors on suburban Wisteria Lane: plucky Susan, predatory Edie and beleaguered Lynette, as well as Gabrielle Solis (Eva Longoria), a sexy young bird in a gilded cage, and Bree Van De Kamp (Marcia Cross, "Melrose Place"), a minor-league Martha Stewart headed for a major meltdown.

For reasons having to do with husbands (absent ones or bad ones), work (too much or not enough) or children (too many and too obstreperous), these five survivors are indeed desperate. So, of course, was Mary Alice - or why would she have taken her life? And what about the cryptic letter that arrived in the mail the very day she died, the one that Susan et al. conveniently get a look at when she's gone?

Suburbia, too, contributes to the desperation, as it famously did in the 1999 movie "American Beauty," also narrated by a dead character. Something at once bland and malign rises up from those green lawns, floats down from those blue skies, hovers invisibly over those hulking SUVs.

We've been here before, not just in "American Beauty" but at least as long ago as Betty Friedan's "The Feminine Mystique" nearly 40 years ago.

Not that creator Marc Cherry ("The Golden Girls") is exactly a feminist fellow traveler. Neither Susan's job nor her kid occupies her thoughts the way single neighbor Mike Delfino (James Denton) does. And when Lynette's husband makes light of her burdens, she hauls off and slaps him in the face, soap-opera-style.

In fact, this soapy element - the cat fights, the hissy fits, the hot sex with the young gardener - is the least interesting thing about the series. Like the title, it's both heavy-handed and a little dated, less retro than just anachronistic.

But don't let that stop you from giving "Housewives" a try. A comedy that actually makes you smile isn't that easy to come by these days.

I personally view DH as a primetime soap in the veins of the 80s shows, simply because Marc Cherry has stated several times that he didn't plan on it being soapy, but as he continued to develope it, he decided to put it in the soap category. ABC even promoted it as the next big primetime soap...why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?

Nobody is saying anything about a soap being horrible. It's just that ABC has a better chance of winning best comedy at the Emmys this year if DH were submitted as a comedy. Not only that, Marc Cherry himself said DH is pretty ambiguous and went on to same that it's equal part comedy and equal part drama.

DH wouldn't stand a fair chance in the drama category, that would be like a dark comedy film being in the drama film category at the Golden Globes. It just won't happen.

im NOT a fan of the show, but I think DH will win in both the comedy AND drama categories.

and then it will win for best guest star.

I think, like at the Daytime Emmys, there should be a category for "special class series" that just can't be classified. I mean, when you look at life, is it always funny or always dramatic? Shows like S&TC and DH are really good at contrasting the two and there should be a category for those types of shows, but at the moment, I doubt there's enough of them on the air to merit its own category.

I think that no matter what category you put it into, "Desperate Housewives" will at least win Emmys for Best Series and for Best Actress for Teri Hatcher, even though the competition will be fiercer in the Drama side. It will be interesting to see how it does compared with ABC's other smash rookie hit "Lost". I'm guessing that it will beat "Lost" handily although neither show will go home empty handed.

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is with "Lost". Let's face it, if I want to see a bunch of people stranded on a deserted island, two of them better be named Ginger and Mary Ann, or I'm not watching!

If you want to take this debate further, I should mention that at both the Golden Globe and People's Choice Awards, where DH did very well in both cases, it won as a comedy series. Will the Emmys follow suit? Stay tuned. Only a couple days are left before we all find out.

I think that no matter what category you put it into, "Desperate Housewives" will at least win Emmys for Best Series and for Best Actress for Teri Hatcher, even though the competition will be fiercer in the Drama side. It will be interesting to see how it does compared with ABC's other smash rookie hit "Lost". I'm guessing that it will beat "Lost" handily although neither show will go home empty handed.

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is with "Lost". Let's face it, if I want to see a bunch of people stranded on a deserted island, two of them better be named Ginger and Mary Ann, or I'm not watching!

If you want to take this debate further, I should mention that at both the Golden Globe and People's Choice Awards, where DH did very well in both cases, it won as a comedy series. Will the Emmys follow suit? Stay tuned. Only a couple days are left before we all find out.

OMG!!! You Didn't, LOL....LOST Is A Very Good Show And It Deserves Best Drama In My Opinion, How Come You Don't Like Lost?

Lost Rocks. :woohoo:

It's official! According to the people in charge of the Emmys, "Desperate Housewives" is a comedy, and a very good one, since it received a high of 15 nominations, tying it with the somewhat overrated "Will & Grace". Here's how the nominations went for the main sitcom categories, along with my comments and predictions for each, with my choices being highlighted:

Outstanding Comedy Series

"Arrested Development" (FOX)
"Desperate Housewives" (ABC)
"Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
"Scrubs" (NBC)
"Will & Grace" (NBC)

The girls win in a walk! The others won't go home empty handed since they all received plenty of nominations and should win something, but when the best series to air in the last decade suddenly shows up and dominates the nominations, that fact will not go unnoticed.

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy

Jason Bateman, "Arrested Development" (FOX)
Zach Braff, "Scrubs" (NBC)
Eric McCormack, "Will & Grace" (NBC)
Ray Romano, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
Tony Shalhoub, "Monk" (USA)

This might be the weakest category of the bunch, which I feel is notable for the absence of Charlie Sheen and Jon Cryer from "Two and a Half Men", two fine actors who deserved better but might be heard from in 2006. For now, just mark it down as Ray Romano's farewell party and leave it at that. If you're looking for an upset, keep an eye on Zach Braff of "Scrubs", my early pick to take next year's honours.

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy

Marcia Cross, "Desperate Housewives" (ABC)
Teri Hatcher, "Desperate Housewives" (ABC)
Patricia Heaton, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
Felicity Huffman, "Desperate Housewives" (ABC)
Jane Kaczmarek, "Malcolm in the Middle" (FOX)

The rules say that you can't split the Emmys three ways because only one person has to win it and that person is Teri Hatcher because I feel she's the best of the three, although I do feel sad that Eva Longoria didn't get picked either. Another slam dunk win for the Housewives here.

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy

Peter Boyle, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
Brad Garrett, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
Sean Hayes, "Will & Grace" (NBC)
Jeremy Piven, "Entourage" (HBO)
Jeffrey Tambor, "Arrested Development" (FOX)

I see this as a two man race between the two Barones. I think Peter Boyle will win simply because he's funnier than Brad Garrett. If any of the other three nominees win instead, then all I can say is "Holy Crap!".

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy

Conchata Ferrell, "Two and a Half Men" (CBS)
Megan Mullally, "Will & Grace" (NBC)
Doris Roberts, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS)
Holland Taylor, "Two and a Half Men" (CBS)
Jessica Walter, "Arrested Development" (FOX)

Another victory for "Raymond"'s gang. Oddly enough, this is where "Two and a Half Men" starts to make its presence felt, with 2 nominations for actresses that don't have nearly as much impact and air time as the show's outstanding lead actors, which I've noted above in the Lead Actor category. The TV Academy must clearly be watching a different show than I am. And where is Nicollette Sheridan? She's not only one of the hottest actresses in prime time today, she can act rings out of most of these stiffs. Her omission is a big mistake!