American cinema is considered the best in the world, which of course, is a crock. It was the best cinema in the world until the big studios assumed more control over the studios to make bigger and more spectacular blockbusters with no artistic value for maximum profits.

The period between the late sixties and the late seventies was considered Hollywood's last golden age for movies like Bonnie and Clyde, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, Easy Rider, Five Easy Pieces, M*A*S*H, Chinatown, The Godfather, Save the Tiger, The Conversation, Taxi Driver, and others. So which movie ended this era? Here are the choices:

Jaws, because it kicked off a wave (no pun intended) of summer blockbusters.

Star Wars, because it kicked off an era of movies with overreliance with special effects and it also kicked off movie merchandising.

National Lampoon's Animal House, because it led to the following - scatological teen movies, scatological frat-boy movies, movies starring "Saturday Night Live" alumni, and John Landis flicks.

National Lampoon's Vacation, because it gave the film's screenwriter, John Hughes, carte blanche to make all of those self-important suburban Chicago-based upper-middle-class teens angst movies.

Rocky II, because it created the moron movie genre and ensured Sylvester Stallons a place in movie history - and let to awful movies whose titles all end in Roman numerals. (In the original Rocky, Rocky Balboa did not defeat Apollo Creed, but Rocky II allowed him to beat him in a rematch and then beat his opponents in Rocky III and Rocky IV turning him from a lovable South Philly boy into an invincible cartoon.)

Some other movie.

What's your vote? :D

I'm voting for Rocky II, for the reasons listed above. Jaws was a decent latter-day Moby Dick, Star Wars, despite its special effects, was still an intelligent sci-fi flick, Animal House gave us Tom Hulce and Tim Matheson (and John Belushi could have been a great actor if not for his untimely death), Vacation reminded me of the failed vacations my family took, and besides, not all John Hughes films were awful.

those are all good movies.

Who voted for "other?" And what's your choice? :confused:

Some of those movies are classics and a couple are real close to being one. :eek:

those are all good movies.


ditto

none of those

Rocky II sucked, but it didn't ruin Hollywood. Everything else is great though.

A "None. Don't Agree" option would have been good for those with a different opinion.

I don't think any of these movies ruined Hollywood, and I liked them all. People love blockbusters and special effect movies. They did way back when too with The Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure. Go way back to the King Kong movies and those types. Special effects have advanced and so has the viewer's demand for them.

There's still a balance of commercial and independent films going on today.

Now if you want to talk about a movie causing a negative impact on Hollywood, a very good case could be made for Gigli. :lol:

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks! :lol:

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks! :lol:

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!


" You have embraced the power of the dark side" :lol:

" You have embraced the power of the dark side" :lol:


SEE - point made!!! :lol: ;)

(wait 'til Max sees this - he's gonna whip out his light saber too!!) :eek:

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks! :lol:

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!

Actually Barbara Streisand was not in Ishtar.

And I'll say this again, the first half hour of Ishtar is hilarious.
The songs that they come up with are hysterical.

Their all good movies, none of them

Actually Barbara Streisand was not in Ishtar.

And I'll say this again, the first half hour of Ishtar is hilarious.
The songs that they come up with are hysterical.

Oh right - it must be her recent Dustin Hoffman connection that confused me! The Barbra Streisand one I'm thinking of was Yentl!! :lol:

Rocky II sucked, but it didn't ruin Hollywood. Everything else is great though.
Yep, I agree

What ruined Hollywood?

Two words - Yahoo Serious.

;)

What ruined Hollywood?

Two words - Yahoo Serious.

;)
:rotflmao: Ain't that the truth.

Now theres a name you don't hear too often. :lol:

What ruined Hollywood?

Two words - Yahoo Serious.

;)
:brent

All those Police Academy movies.

And those Beat Street movies.

my choice would be "other".

Even though it was a very cool movie and was groundbreaking for it's time, I would choose Terminator 2. Once that movie showed how far you can take special effects, Hollywood started quickly coming up with movies that emphasized "cool effects" with very to little plot. And it's still plaguing the industry to this day.

Granted, there was Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Back To The Future, BEFORE T2, but the difference is that those movies would've been fun and entertaining even without the effects because the stories were intriguing. A lot of the SFX orgies like Armageddon, ID4, etc... were bad movies masked by "cool effects".

All those Police Academy movies.

And those Beat Street movies.

I'm more partial to the "Breakin'" series myself.

;)

my choice would be "other".

Even though it was a very cool movie and was groundbreaking for it's time, I would choose Terminator 2. Once that movie showed how far you can take special effects, Hollywood started quickly coming up with movies that emphasized "cool effects" with very to little plot. And it's still plaguing the industry to this day.

Granted, there was Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Back To The Future, BEFORE T2, but the difference is that those movies would've been fun and entertaining even without the effects because the stories were intriguing. A lot of the SFX orgies like Armageddon, ID4, etc... were bad movies masked by "cool effects".How about The Matrix? I'm sure everyone has noticed how everyone has to have those kind of special effects in action/adventure movies.

I think a good case could be made for any of those films ruining Hollywood, but maybe you should go with a crappy series like Die Hard, that featured nothing but violence and special effects, maskerading as a story!

In my opinion The Passion of the Christ ruined Hollywood because it was a movie that made a ****load of money even though it wasn't made by Hollywood, and wasn't even supported by Hollywood.

In my opinion The Passion of the Christ ruined Hollywood because it was a movie that made a ****load of money even though it wasn't made by Hollywood, and wasn't even supported by Hollywood.

And Hollywood is still cursing Mel Gibson to this day.

I never really saw most of these movies but I thought Star Wars was confusing and boring.

I think a good case could be made for any of those films ruining Hollywood, but maybe you should go with a crappy series like Die Hard, that featured nothing but violence and special effects, maskerading as a story!


Die Hard rules!!!!!!!! I've always hated Star Wars. Sorry.

Die Hard With a Vegeance had a funny scene with Bruce Willis driving a taxi and chasing a car through Central Park with Samuel L. Jackson in the taxi, complaining that Bruce drives like he's aiming at the pedestrians in the park. "I'm not aiming at anybody!" Bruce protests.

Suddenly, you a hear a thud.

"All right," Bruce says, "except maybe that mime!"

:rofl:

And Hollywood is still cursing Mel Gibson to this day.
That's true, and Gibson's laughing all the way to the bank. :lol:

I picked ROCKY II on the list.........