sitcoms that were hurt by running too many seasons bringing down the value of its syndicated reruns.

1)happy days(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

2)one day at a time(its syndicated reruns would've been done alot better if it ended a couple of seasons earlier)

3)alice(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

4)different strokes(would be alot more popular in syndication if it ended earlier)

5)all in the family(overkill)

6)the jeffersons(last couple of seasons hurt the show in syndication)

7)the facts of life(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

8)laverne & shirley(a no brainer)

9)beverly hillbillies(if just the black and white episodes had been syndicated i think it would've done alot better in reruns)

10)married with children(milking the formula too long)

11)full house(athough i never like it in the first place)

12)that 70's show(in my opinion i just don't enjoy it anymore and i think next season it will get worse)

13)the cosby show(adding olivia & pam hurt the show reruns in my opinion)

14)family matters(athough i never like it in the first place)

15)step by step(athough i never like it in the first place)

16)roseanne(overkill)

17)threes company(one season too many in my opinion)

18)petticoat junction(when bea benadaret died so did the show)

19)good times(a no brainer)

20)night court( i would've cut its network run by one-third)

21)golden girls(too much of a good thing)

22)ozzie and harriet(15 seasons? i think thats the reason we rarely see it in syndication)

23)my three sons(anybody disagree with me that this show ran too long)

24)newhart(although the final episode maybe the best final for any sitcom)

25)frasier(its last few seasons don't hold a candle to CHEERS last few seasons)

26)malcolm in the middle(in my opinion)

27)make room for daddy

28)whos the boss

29)growing pains(kirk cameron saved,growing pain destroyed)

30)home improvement

31)friends(7 great seasons 3 mediocre seasons)

32)gimmie a break(moving to new york and dropping the kids from the cast hurt the value of its reruns)

i did'nt include the following sitcoms because they are some of the biggest money makers in syndication and are still hold up well today)
1)cheers(all 11 seasons are fresh after all these years)
2)m*a*s*h(correct me if i'm wrong but i think m*a*s*h is alltime biggest money maker for a sitcom in syndicated reruns)
3)seinfeld(will last forever)
4)bewitched(i know alot of people will disagree with me on this one)
5)leave it to beaver
6)i love lucy
7)the andy griffith show
8)the mary tlyer show(all 7 seasons were excellent in my opinion)
9)the simpson(16 seasons and still has alot of good episodes)
10)everybody loves raymond(all 9 seasons were excellent)

anyways i would love to hear everybodys opinion on this subject

some of these I have to disagree with.

#2 - One Day At A Time - that's a show I feel got better as the cast got older.

#7 - The Facts Of Life - the last season was unnecessary, but I loved season 8 and thought Cloris gave her all and Beverly was great.

#21 - The Golden Girls - I think seven seasons was a perfect run.

And in "ones that lasted long enough", I would gladly take the final seasons of Three's Company, The Golden Girls and One Day At A Time over post-Barney episodes of Andy Griffith and post-Radar episodes of MASH. Those are two prime examples of shows that could've gone off earlier. At least TGG and TC were still funny at the end, was MASH?

Roseanne Went 1 Season Too Long and Even Then Some Of the Episodes Were Good SO I Don't Think That's Overkill.

I have to disagree with you BuffySlayer79,
''The Facts Of Life'' was great only with Mrs.Garrett in it.
Charlotte Rae's leave is brought the show too lower ratings,IMHO.
Also the girls were now young women, and Beverly Ann was horrible!
I am so glad it lasted for nine years though!,It was a great sitcom
and many generations could benefit from it today if were ran in syndication.

25)frasier(its last few seasons don't hold a candle to CHEERS last few seasons)

Your Crazy with that comment..

I disagree with:
The Facts of Life - The show was still good in the last few years. They were able to come up with new ideas for episodes which is very hard to do when the show is going on for so long.
Roseanne - I love the last seasons of this show. I think they were better than the first two seasons.
The Golden Girls - This show ended at the right time. Even though I think there were too many episode flashbacks that kept ruining the show, the last season had a lot of funny episodes.
Who's the Boss - the later years of this show are better than the first seasons in my opinion.

I do agree with:
Alice - I always found the Flo and Belle seasons of this show watchable. Once Jolene came into the show, they couldn't come up with any episode ideas and started remaking episodes which ruined this show.
Diff'rent Strokes - the actress that played Maggie in the last season was horrible.
All in The Family - It should have been canceled once Gloria and Mike left the show.
Laverne & Shirley - Should have been canceled once Cindy left the show as Shirley.
Family Matters - The last season was terrible. Especially the actress that replaced Jo Marie as Harriette.
Three's Company - Like Alice, this show did a lot of episode remakes that weren't as good the first time.
Bewitched - even though this show did way too many episode remakes in the last few seasons, I like Dick Sargent better as Darrin than Dick York.

I have to disagree with you BuffySlayer79,
''The Facts Of Life'' was great only with Mrs.Garrett in it.
Charlotte Rae's leave is brought the show too lower ratings,IMHO.
Also the girls were now young women, and Beverly Ann was horrible!
I am so glad it lasted for nine years though!,It was a great sitcom
and many generations could benefit from it today if were ran in syndication.

if you try watching season 8 and got over the fact that Charlotte was gone, you'd see the quality that season was up there with the Eastland seasons. I have friends who prefer the Beverly episodes to Mrs. G.

BTW, ratings weren't THAT bad in the last two seasons, somebody who runs a FOL site scanned a lot of weekly ratings from 86 to 88 and many many times, FOL actually was in the top 20 many times those two seasons (though in the 30's during season-ending ratings). I think the fact that everyone agreed it was time to move on caused the end of the show in 1988, not low ratings, because FOL always won it's timeslot.

I'll take the eighth season without Garrett over the first, sixth and seventh seasons WITH her. The last season did suck a bit IMO, but it was more or less because each character had been exhausted and people like Pippa and Andy were getting too much screentime.

I disagree with:
The Facts of Life - The show was still good in the last few years. They were able to come up with new ideas for episodes which is very hard to do when the show is going on for so long.
Roseanne - I love the last seasons of this show. I think they were better than the first two seasons.
The Golden Girls - This show ended at the right time. Even though I think there were too many episode flashbacks that kept ruining the show, the last season had a lot of funny episodes.

I agree with all of those. It's an unpopular opinion, but these days, I'm much more prone to watch season 8 and 9 reruns than seasons 1 and 2 of Roseanne. Season 3 was when Roseanne, IMO, started breaking the mold and standing out of a crowd.

All In the Family - The plug should had been pulled when Mike and Gloria moved to California. If Norman Lear and CBS ended the series on that note it would ranked up there as a great series finale.
Alice - When the show got to where it was bringing in special guest stars every other episode it's normally the mark of a sitcom has ran its course. Alice truly ran its course after the 5th season. The show recovered well with Belle with Linda Lavin having problems with Diane Ladd she end up leaving the show in the middle of 5th season. Jolene was not the one.
Kate and Allie - The final season was lousy. With Allie marrying Bob would had made a great series finale. Watching Allie as a married woman and Kate hanging around a newly married couple did not look good. The show had the potential of going down as a classic. After Susan St. James had her fourth child in 1986 she looked as though she did not want to be there. Her energy was not quite the same.
Coach - The show changed radically once Hayden and Christine got married. Hayden was not the same person anymore. The move to Florida was not a good one for the show. That final season was not good and it was showing its age. The only redeeming part of the show was Shelley Fabares straight hair and not wearing that godawful frizzy perm.
One Day At A Time -Season 8 was full of transitions and changes and that should had been it final season. Here was all that happened that year:

Mark and Barbara got married.
Julie and Max gave birth to Annie.
Ann met Sam, Mark's father, and they began dating, got engaged and got married.
Alex began dealing with losing his father.
Grandma Romano facing her husband's death.

About most of the 8th season was dealing with many changes of the characters. The final season was a yawn and it showed that it wore its welcome out. It was good to see Ann Romano came out on top with a husband and the opportunity to run her own agency in London. She came a long way.
Sanford and Son - The show was never the same after Redd Foxx battle with the producers and NBC for more money and better working conditions. It seemed that Redd did not want to be there when he was forced to come back to the show. That final season was lame especially the Hawaii episodes.
Bewitched - We all know the story on that one and what hurt the show.
Here's Lucy - It should had ended at season 5. The Lucy act was tiring and TV was changing. Lucille Ball was showing her age in the final season.
The Jefferson's - We know the story on that one and what hurt the show. It was well discussed many times.
Three's Company - The 8th season was bad and many episodes were recycled from the Suzanne Somers seasons.

if you try watching season 8 and got over the fact that Charlotte was gone, you'd see the quality that season was up there with the Eastland seasons. I have friends who prefer the Beverly episodes to Mrs. G.

BTW, ratings weren't THAT bad in the last two seasons, somebody who runs a FOL site scanned a lot of weekly ratings from 86 to 88 and many many times, FOL actually was in the top 20 many times those two seasons (though in the 30's during season-ending ratings). I think the fact that everyone agreed it was time to move on caused the end of the show in 1988, not low ratings, because FOL always won it's timeslot.

I'll take the eighth season without Garrett over the first, sixth and seventh seasons WITH her. The last season did suck a bit IMO, but it was more or less because each character had been exhausted and people like Pippa and Andy were getting too much screentime.
I prefer the 8th season of FOL to the 6th and 7th seasons. Mrs Garrett was only in half of those episodes and I never really cared for the Over Our Heads angle. I think CC rejuvinated the show but by the 9th season it was time to go.

sitcoms that were hurt by running too many seasons bringing down the value of its syndicated reruns.

1)happy days(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

2)one day at a time(its syndicated reruns would've been done alot better if it ended a couple of seasons earlier)

3)alice(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

4)different strokes(would be alot more popular in syndication if it ended earlier)

5)all in the family(overkill)

6)the jeffersons(last couple of seasons hurt the show in syndication)

7)the facts of life(would be alot more popular if it ended a few seasons earlier)

8)laverne & shirley(a no brainer)

9)beverly hillbillies(if just the black and white episodes had been syndicated i think it would've done alot better in reruns)

10)married with children(milking the formula too long)

11)full house(athough i never like it in the first place)

12)that 70's show(in my opinion i just don't enjoy it anymore and i think next season it will get worse)

13)the cosby show(adding olivia & pam hurt the show reruns in my opinion)

14)family matters(athough i never like it in the first place)

15)step by step(athough i never like it in the first place)

16)roseanne(overkill)

17)threes company(one season too many in my opinion)

18)petticoat junction(when bea benadaret died so did the show)

19)good times(a no brainer)

20)night court( i would've cut its network run by one-third)

21)golden girls(too much of a good thing)

22)ozzie and harriet(15 seasons? i think thats the reason we rarely see it in syndication)

23)my three sons(anybody disagree with me that this show ran too long)

24)newhart(although the final episode maybe the best final for any sitcom)

25)frasier(its last few seasons don't hold a candle to CHEERS last few seasons)

26)malcolm in the middle(in my opinion)

27)make room for daddy

28)whos the boss

29)growing pains(kirk cameron saved,growing pain destroyed)

30)home improvement

31)friends(7 great seasons 3 mediocre seasons)

32)gimmie a break(moving to new york and dropping the kids from the cast hurt the value of its reruns)

i did'nt include the following sitcoms because they are some of the biggest money makers in syndication and are still hold up well today)
1)cheers(all 11 seasons are fresh after all these years)
2)m*a*s*h(correct me if i'm wrong but i think m*a*s*h is alltime biggest money maker for a sitcom in syndicated reruns)
3)seinfeld(will last forever)
4)bewitched(i know alot of people will disagree with me on this one)
5)leave it to beaver
6)i love lucy
7)the andy griffith show
8)the mary tlyer show(all 7 seasons were excellent in my opinion)
9)the simpson(16 seasons and still has alot of good episodes)
10)everybody loves raymond(all 9 seasons were excellent)

anyways i would love to hear everybodys opinion on this subject
A lot of those sitcoms have been big syndicated hits so I don't think the bad seasons hurt them to bad.

I don't think Home Improvement was hurt by its length, 8 Seasons was right.
Frasier didn't last too long either, I think the last 2 seasons were better than 5/6 personally.

I hate Roseanne,I don't see people got into watching that one. But
then again it was about a dysfunctional family and their problems.
I hated Roseanne's loudy whiny voice too. I didn't care much
for '' Married With Children '' either,I think Katey Sagal and Christina
Applegate acted really horrible on that show.But the show I wish
that would end forever is The Simpsons. I tired of that cartoon!
I mean it's been on the air for about sixteen years. I was in grade school
when show started.I wouldn't care less if they went off the air.
I did purchase T-Shirts and got a Bart Simpson piggy bank one year
for Christmas.But I have to admit,I'm not even nostalgic for that fad again!

i think will hurt the Simpsons is the cartoon beacuse and it not able to do when make get a year older and not able to see Bart & Lisa go to Junior High & High School not see them date and not seeing maggie go to school it a very good show let face beacuse it a cartoon they are not able to change it

any new opinions?

Better in later eps/seasons:

Facts of Life, The - IMO, the later seasons of this show WAS definitely about growing up and unlike Diff'rent Strokes, Silver Spoons, and Punky Brewster, and also Home Improvement, and most other shows that focused on the kids of the show, FoL's puberty episodes were more watchable than the bulk fo the beginning of the Eastland years, IMO.



I agree with:

Diff'rent Strokes - Shouldn't have never had Mr. Drummond get married in the 1st place. Second, I liked Dixie Carter (much better than Mary Ann Mobley who repalced her for the '85-'86 season) but I disliked the Maggie character to a T! And don't even get me started about Sam.

Happy Days - Should of died down once Richie (Ron Howard) left. Show became too focused on Fonzie.

Laverne and Shirley - The quality of this show went south w/ the California-era, although therer were a few good eps. here and there, but it really should of ended when Cindy Williams left the show.

The Cosby Show - Olivia was Ok in her 1st season but got annoying afterwards. Don't even get me started w/ Cousin Pam, Martin, and the grandfathers mantas.

All in the Family - Like another poster said, it should've ended when Gloria and Mike left. When this show fumbled in the ratings, it costed CBS as a whole the #1 spot.



Other IMOs:

Chico and the Man - The post-Freddie Prinze eps. hindered this show from beign seen in most syndication markets, plus the fact that it only had 80+ eps.

Silver Spoons - This one is a toss-up. I liked the earlier seasons b/c of that awesome train and arcades. I liked the later seasons b/c they had better storylines.

Gimme a Break! - The S6 eps. were tedious and mediocre at best. Plus, the absence of the other cast members outside of Telma Hopkins, Joey and Matthew Lawrence, and John Hoyt also nearly ruined this show's chances in syndication.

I will only comment on the ones, that I have followed through the whole run, because those are the only ones I know enough about. Most of the other shows probably never came to Sweden, or they only were aired in Sweden before I was born or before I was old enough to remember them.


11)full house(athough i never like it in the first place)
I think it was equally good all the way through. It may not be my favorite either, but it's good enough to watch, if nothing better is on.

12)that 70's show(in my opinion i just don't enjoy it anymore and i think next season it will get worse)
They should have ended the show, when Topher Grace wanted that time off. I haven't even bothered with watching that season with the other guy, so I really shouldn't say it's bad, because I don't know it is, but I can't see how it could be any good. But maybe I'll watch that season one day, just out of curiousity.

13)the cosby show(adding olivia & pam hurt the show reruns in my opinion)
I didn't like Olivia either. She was so unneeded and annoying! However, I'm actually one of Pam's few defenders. She was probably only brought into the show because Vanessa went off to college and hardly was seen anymore, and she actually was more interesting than Vanessa in my opinion.

14)family matters(athough i never like it in the first place)
I like this show, but they made two major mistakes: (1) Getting rid of Judy instead of working on her character, and (2) having Steve end up with Laura instead of with Myra. Many people say Steve's inventions becoming less and less realistic and Steve becoming the focus of the show are this show's jump the shark factors, but I never had anything against that, even though it's clear that the show changed over the years.

15)step by step(athough i never like it in the first place)
I liked this show too, even though it was even better when Cody was still around (I mean, duh!) and when the kids were younger.

17)threes company(one season too many in my opinion)
I've never seen this show, except in a Swedish version from the 90s. And this Swedish 90s version was only like three seasons, I think, so it didn't become too long either.

21)golden girls(too much of a good thing)
Even though I maybe haven't watched every episode of this show, I actually think this one was equally good all the way through too.

I pretty much agree. Roseanne, MWC, 70's show season 8

I would add Sabrina, the Teenage Witch to the list (4-7 gets bad) would not include Home Improvement or Step by Step (later shows with Rich are a lot than the older shows).

Havent really seen the later years of Drew Carey but would that be a show to add?

I so agree with you about "Sabrina". I liked the High School seasons, but not the college seasons.

I'm a big fan of Three's Compagny but,when Susanne Sommers was gone,it never been the same.Too bad they didn't take another actress to play Chrissy instead of bringing her awful cousin Cindy.Pricilla Barnes as Terri was good but,not enough to bring the show back.

I so agree with you about "Sabrina". I liked the High School seasons, but not the college seasons.
The college seasons stunk because they threw the whole original premise out the window. And having Harvey dump Sabrina OFFSCREEN...total copout. Okay, Sabrina goes to college and is on her own...fine, 18 year olds do that. But they forgot to make it funny or something. And 4 years to do 3 years of HS, but 2 years to do 4 years of college? Suspension of Disbelief doesn't even work there.

Admittedly I don't mind season 7 though, because they messed with Sabrina's mind. But Aaron...omg, horrible addition there! Trainwreck.