I watching an episode of Maude the other day and Florida said

"i want to continue to work for Maude for two more years and then i can quit because the children will be old enough to be on their own"


Which means that Florida didn;t have a young kid, only older teeenagers, so that also means that........................................................




Feel free to talk with me, I'm ready-lol

Here we go again that doesn't make Good Times not a spinoff. James would still be working and the two older kids would work so Florida could quit because they'd have two less kids to worry about.

Here we go again that doesn't make Good Times not a spinoff. James would still be working and the two older kids would work so Florida could quit because they'd have two less kids to worry about.


I will check again but i'm sure she said out of the house. meaning they would be on their own.

Good Times = SPIN-OFF
CASE CLOSED!!!

Wait, there's more ...


But Good Times was a spinoff of Maude

Good Times = SPIN-OFF
CASE CLOSED!!!

Wait, there's more ...


This Case will never be Closed on this site-lol

Good Times = SPIN-OFF
CASE CLOSED!!!

Wait, there's more ...

I think he's only debating it for fun or to get attention.

This Case will never be Closed on this site-lol

FUNNY!!!

hehe

FUNNY!!!

hehe


Yeah this debate was and will always be the most memorable on SitcomsOnline.com I became good friends with several after arguing for several weeks about this-LOL

Often details in spin-offs dont jive with the earlier show, such as Frasier Crane being an only child with a dead scientist as a father on Cheers ....then suddenly gaining a brother and a cop for a Dad on "Frasier"..... Would you then say Frasier wasnt a spin-off of Cheers???( It can't be by your logic * )
* And if it wasnt, then what were Sam, Woody, Dianne and Lilith doing on the show?

Sorry Sol - SPINOFF BABY!!! :D (remember, I was there)!! :lol:

Sorry Sol - SPINOFF BABY!!! :D (remember, I was there)!! :lol:
You were? Funny , you dont LOOK like Thelma to ME :rolleyes:

Good Times was already in Production before Esther Rolle Left Maude, which means well you know the rest.

I watching an episode of Maude the other day and Florida said

"i want to continue to work for Maude for two more years and then i can quit because the children will be old enough to be on their own"


Which means that Florida didn;t have a young kid, only older teeenagers, so that also means that........................................................




Feel free to talk with me, I'm ready-lol


SOLOMON, my goodness. This is a weak statement. It does not stand up. Besides, one Maude episode, Florida said she had "three beautiful, black kids". I have the episode on tape to back it up. However, you do bring conflict, controversy and life to the lives of the other members on the board. LOL.

SOLOMON, my goodness. This is a weak statement. It does not stand up. Besides, one Maude episode, Florida said she had "three beautiful, black kids". I have the episode on tape to back it up. However, you do bring conflict, controversy and life to the lives of the other members on the board. LOL.



Explain Florida Saying her kids will be old enough in a couple years to be on their own

"We have three, beautiful black kids". I am majoring in production at school. Writers and prodcers have the rights to make any creative changes they please. Many other shows have done it. Did you read Mikado's statement? The poster makes great points. The fact that her children are almost grown does not make for good foundation in your argument at all. Besides, she was right. Thelma and J.J.'s characters would have been 15 and 16 during the first season of Maude had they been introduced whether Michael was included in the equation or not. Shows make changes all the time. I can understand the creators not wanted to rely on the success of "Maude" in order for Good Times to be a success, but just because the idea was concieved before "Maude" does not mean it is not a spinoff. I have posted this many times before but "Knots Landing" was concieved before it's parent series "Dallas" but the idea was shelved and brought to light through "Dallas". Shows do that all the time. I major in Television and Film and from seeing it on TV, it is so obvious. Plus, are there any "Good Times" series episodes with Flo and James/Henry Evans circa 1972? I think not.

Then this would mean that The Jeffersons wasn't a spinoff from All In The Family. Look at how different Jenny and her parents are in their first AITF episode as compared to TJ.

Then this would mean that The Jeffersons wasn't a spinoff from All In The Family. Look at how different Jenny and her parents are in their first AITF episode as compared to TJ.
Yea but they were the same characters, just played by different actors.

Then this would mean that The Jeffersons wasn't a spinoff from All In The Family. Look at how different Jenny and her parents are in their first AITF episode as compared to TJ.




Yes there was a Different Helen, Tom, and Jenny in the episode-"Lionel's Engagement" but that was in January of 1974. When it came time for the Jeffersons to be spinned off, The same Willises that was in the Jeffersons Pilot were also in the First episode of The Jeffersons. So yes the Jeffersons is a SPINOFF. Good Times is Not

IS SO! :p

:lol:

Yes there was a Different Helen, Tom, and Jenny in the episode-"Lionel's Engagement" but that was in January of 1974. When it came time for the Jeffersons to be spinned off, The same Willises that was in the Jeffersons Pilot were also in the First episode of The Jeffersons. So yes the Jeffersons is a SPINOFF. Good Times is Not


From what I have been seeing, it seems as though you are arguing that it is based on your own opinion. It is very clear and always will be............. that Maude did participate in launching Good Times onto TV. :D

From what I have been seeing, it seems as though you are arguing that it is based on your own opinion. It is very clear and always will be............. that Maude did participate in launching Good Times onto TV. :D



Well explain why some CBS affialates aired the first ep of Good Times on Feb 1, 1974 while Florida depature on Maude was aired on Feb 5, 1974

Well unfortunately, that still does not prove anything. LOL. Besides, someone on the board stated that those two airdates were not accurate because they were around when the shows debuted. But then again, maybe the individual was mistaken. I know my TV book does have those dates too but even so, that is absolutely noooo ground base to prove that GT was not spun off by Maude.

Well unfortunately, that still does not prove anything. LOL. Besides, someone on the board stated that those two airdates were not accurate because they were around when the shows debuted. But then again, maybe the individual was mistaken. I know my TV book does have those dates too but even so, that is absolutely noooo ground base to prove that GT was not spun off by Maude.


Really? So Florida already being in Chicago while her farewell ep on Maude hadn't aired yet means nothing?-lol


Feb 1, 74-Evans having rent problem

Feb 5, 74-Florida still on Maude


LOL

Uh, RTVC, you are aware that the network was well within their rights to air out of sequence if they opted to, right? LOL. The way the shows were aired have nothing to do with the fact that one was spun off from another in any way, shape, or form.

Uh, RTVC, you are aware that the network was well within their rights to air out of sequence if they opted to, right? LOL. The way the shows were aired have nothing to do with the fact that one was spun off from another in any way, shape, or form.



I wish i still had a copy of the 74 Article with Executive Producer Alan Manings saying that Good Times was not a spinoff.

You could settle the issue by just imagining an alternate universe with 2 Floridas :lol: