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dawsongirl
05-04-2005, 03:45 PM
I'm reading my anatomy book, and it says:

Tay-Sachs disease (a disease affecting only the Jewish race)

I thought Judiasm was a religion, not a race. :confused:

Seinatra
05-04-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm reading my anatomy book, and it says:



I thought Judiasm was a religion, not a race. :confused:


I think you is right.

vienna waits
05-04-2005, 03:57 PM
We talked about this in sociology... a religion not a race.

James"Thunder"Early
05-04-2005, 03:58 PM
I'm reading my anatomy book, and it says:



I thought Judiasm was a religion, not a race. :confused:It's a religion and an ethnicity more than a race.

dawsongirl
05-04-2005, 04:19 PM
Ah. So the book is dumb and not me. :lol:

Max Whittaker
05-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Ah. So the book is dumb and not me. :lol:


A fundementilist I once knew said it is a race. This is an issue that actually can get quite heated. For some reason, it mattered a great deal to him to prove to me that Jew is a race.

Mijada
05-04-2005, 05:18 PM
It's a religion and an ethnicity more than a race.

That's what I always thought too.

Superstar
05-04-2005, 05:25 PM
Ah. So the book is dumb and not me. :lol:
:lol:

Seinatra
05-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Seems like your book may be wrong on two accounts, as this indicates it effects more than those of Jewish descent.

While anyone can be a carrier of Tay-Sachs, the incidence of the disease is significantly higher among people of eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jewish descent. Approximately one in every 27 Jews in the United States is a carrier of the TSD gene. Non-Jewish French Canadians living near the St. Lawrence River and in the Cajun community of Louisiana also have a higher incidence of Tay-Sachs. For the general population, about one in 250 people are carriers.

http://www.genome.gov/page.cfm?pageID=10001220

Seinatra
05-04-2005, 05:26 PM
A fundementilist I once knew said it is a race. This is an issue that actually can get quite heated. For some reason, it mattered a great deal to him to prove to me that Jew is a race.

A fundementilist what?

Max Whittaker
05-04-2005, 05:33 PM
A fundementilist what?
Whoops! He claimed to be a christian.

Rebel Queen 1980
05-04-2005, 05:34 PM
My mom has a book about Judaism, I read it and the introduction page
opens saying '' Judaism is more than a religion,It is a way of life.''

Seinatra
05-04-2005, 05:40 PM
Makes sense, but what religion isn't?

Seinatra
05-04-2005, 05:41 PM
Whoops! He claimed to be a christian.

Do you suspect he wasn't one?

TripperFan
05-04-2005, 05:43 PM
I'm reading my anatomy book, and it says:



I thought Judiasm was a religion, not a race. :confused:

Funny, years ago when my brother was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease, the doctor told my mother than it was only seen in young, Jewish males!!!

Now you hear about Crohn's in the general population all the time.

I would say its a religion and an ethnicity more than a race, but I think they hope to be considered a race. I know they feel that being Jewish is more than just a religion - its part of the striving to get them back to Isarael.

dawsongirl
05-04-2005, 05:56 PM
Seems like your book may be wrong on two accounts, as this indicates it effects more than those of Jewish descent.

While anyone can be a carrier of Tay-Sachs, the incidence of the disease is significantly higher among people of eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jewish descent. Approximately one in every 27 Jews in the United States is a carrier of the TSD gene. Non-Jewish French Canadians living near the St. Lawrence River and in the Cajun community of Louisiana also have a higher incidence of Tay-Sachs. For the general population, about one in 250 people are carriers.

http://www.genome.gov/page.cfm?pageID=10001220 (http://www.genome.gov/page.cfm?pageID=10001220)



Oh good. Why am I bothering with this stupid thing then?? :lol:

dawsongirl
05-04-2005, 05:58 PM
Funny, years ago when my brother was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease, the doctor told my mother than it was only seen in young, Jewish males!!!

Now you hear about Crohn's in the general population all the time.



How weird. My so-called uncle has that and he's far from Jewish!

TripperFan
05-04-2005, 06:37 PM
How weird. My so-called uncle has that and he's far from Jewish!


Oh I know - turns out its got to be total crap, because my mother had it, and my other brother got it in his forties. There's also a chance I'll get it. It does run in families, but other than that, from what I've studied about it since, it can affect anyone - its actually a viral thing. :confused: :confused: So who knows!!! They have done a lot of research in it the past two decades, so I'm sure much has changed.

Either that, or some young Jewish guy, got it on with a Christian gal and there went the bloodlines!!!

Hey - I kid - I kid!! ;)

barwars
05-04-2005, 07:00 PM
I think people from Israel might be called Jews, but I'm not positive.

I guess it is a race.
If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish for the rest of your life.... no matter what religion you practice.

But it's definitely a religion.

Georgia's on my Mind
05-04-2005, 08:26 PM
Its a religion AND a race

robyrob
05-04-2005, 08:35 PM
As long as as its not an EXCITING NEW BOARDGAME! from Milton-Bradley
or EXCITING NEW REALITY SHOW! I dont care.

TripperFan
05-04-2005, 08:38 PM
I think people from Israel might be called Jews, but I'm not positive.

I guess it is a race.
If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish for the rest of your life.... no matter what religion you practice.

But it's definitely a religion.


Actually if they're living in Israel, they're called Israelis>

I can check with my friend. She's currently living in Tel-Aviv.

Max Whittaker
05-04-2005, 09:05 PM
Do you suspect he wasn't one?

Well, you see, I have a problem with people who claim to be christian and then go around tormenting small animals and his little sister, in addition to repeating hateful rheteric he picked up from his father. So, personally, I don't think he is as good a christian as he claims.

Sorry. Off topic.

Steve M.
05-04-2005, 09:41 PM
Mormons are a race - as a result of all that inbreeding from polygamy! :lol:

TripperFan
05-04-2005, 09:45 PM
Mormons are a race - as a result of all that inbreeding from polygamy! :lol:


I know you meant that as a joke, but just to clarify, the majority of Mormons are not polygamists - in fact they're against it and hate the small number of offshoots who continue to practise it. ;) (Hate giving a whole group of people a bad name for the sake of a few nutjobs - just like Muslims)!! ;)

Ags2000
05-04-2005, 10:04 PM
Well, I've never considered myself a Jew, but I am a descendent of a Jew. My Great-great grandfather was a Jew when he came to this country. He converted to baptist and became a Southern Baptist Preacher. My family has been southern baptist ever since.

D

ABlairican Pie
05-05-2005, 12:59 AM
Jewishness is both a religion and an ethnicity. You can be a non-religious Jew as well as be a "Gentile" and convert to the religion. Jewishness as an ethnicity is based on Hebrew Semites in the area of Palestine ever since Biblical times, who had undergone the Diaspora in the First Century B.C.E. During Hitler's Final Solution, you didn't need to be a religious Jew to face persecution., Even having a distant Jewish relative was enough to incarcerate you.