Gwen Stefani did something that looked damn near impossible in today's hip hop driven climate (given, Hollaback Girl is very hip hop driven, but when did Justin Timberlake or Christina hit #1 with pop songs that were hip hop driven?). She has become the first pop/rock artist since Nickelback from Xmas 2001, NOT associated with a sales-driven American Idol single, to hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart.

I knew that pop/rock was on it's way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson went to #2, but Gwen finally broke the ice and hit #1. I think chart diversity is cool, but it's been to the point where pop artists have been DOA on the singles chart at least in terms of #1 hits, so it's nice to see Gwen show that pop music isn't completely dead.

But isn't Eve rapping on that track? And the song itself has a heavy urban/reggae influenced beat. Gwen may be considered a pop/rock artist but that's not your typical pop/rock song.

Never mind, I assumed you meant Rich Girl.

But isn't Eve rapping on that track? And the song itself has a heavy urban/reggae influenced beat. Gwen may be considered a pop/rock artist but that's not your typical pop/rock song.

you're thinking of Rich Girl, which recently peaked at #7 or #8. Hollaback Girl does kinda have a hip hop vibe to it, but it's more or less a cheerleader type anthem ala Mickey. Needless to say, I am SHOCKED it's a #1 hot 100 single, especially when I thought the song was a throwaway when I first heard the album.

you're thinking of Rich Girl, which recently peaked at #7 or #8. Hollaback Girl does kinda have a hip hop vibe to it, but it's more or less a cheerleader type anthem ala Mickey. Needless to say, I am SHOCKED it's a #1 hot 100 single, especially when I thought the song was a throwaway when I first heard the album.


Yeah, I made a mistake, I was thinking of the other song. Still Gwen is sort of borderline. If it were Gren Day or Rob Thomas, it would really be something. I thought it was an accomplishment that Green Day did as well as they did with Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

LOL, I was like "finally!" when I heard the news this morning. I liked this song the first hundred times I heard it (and that was even before "Rich Girl" was released.) I always knew it was going to be her #1, hopefully "Bubble Pop Electric" is next!

Kelly Clarkson might finally get to #1, her new single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" seems to be doing quite well, and so is Mariah with "We Belong Together."

LOL, I was like "finally!" when I heard the news this morning. I liked this song the first hundred times I heard it (and that was even before "Rich Girl" was released.) I always knew it was going to be her #1, hopefully "Bubble Pop Electric" is next!

Kelly Clarkson might finally get to #1, her new single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" seems to be doing quite well, and so is Mariah with "We Belong Together."

I agree. I don't have an issue with r&b/hip hop artists at #1, but you gotta admit 3 1/2 years was a little too long of a monopoly (well, I don't count "A Moment Like This" or Clay's single, because both songs went to #1 solely on high sales, and Kelly's song only got modest airplay and Clay's got zilch here). Even in the late 1970's when disco was overexposed, there were non-disco tracks that topped the charts, and yet people look back at the disco era in retrospect that "disco was too big and too overplayed", it's run wasn't as huge or as long as the 3 1/2 year run that r&b/hip hop ruled. There are a lot of songs like Hey Ya, Crazy In Love, Yeah, and the sort that certainly were #1-worthy and really were as big as the charts made it, but a lot of songs that one would think would be a #1 but wasn't hip hop radio-friendly didn't make it to the top.

I think every genre has songs that have "#1" to it. But the past few years it seems like hip hop has had such a stranglehold on the singles chart that it was like pop and rock music just upped and died. Even songs such as "Here Without You", "She Will Be Loved" and "Bring Me To Life" that easily would've been #1 hits in 1999/2000, had to settle for #5 or so, behind hip hop tracks that seemingly weren't nearly as overplayed.

Does anyone else find it funny that Gwen hits #1 when Jennifer Lopez is started to flop? J. Lo was the artist who really made hip hop music accessable to audiences that shunned it before. She was the one who really turned gay men and preppy schoolgirls hip hop friendly, whereas when Mariah tried it a few years earlier, it hurt her instead of helped. Probably because when she hooked up with Ja Rule, everyone was getting burnt out on bubblegum pop music, and it was a refuge, but then it ended up becoming the same monster that teen pop had become.

I'm glad, I love Gwen. It would be cool if Hollaback Girl did the same thing over the next few weeks.

I knew that pop/rock was on it's way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson went to #2, but Gwen finally broke the ice and hit #1.

Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

don't be so damn defensive, I was listening to Green Day when you were in diapers. You probably are too young to remember the first time they were popular back in the summer of 1994, I was there. I remember when Woodstock 94 transformed them into superstars practically overnight, and when my entire class was singing Basketcase on the bus during a field trip. I can't believe I'm having to defend myself.

The point was, Green Day had a #2 single... AND THEY WEREN'T R&B/HIP HOP. R&B/Hip Hop acts have pretty much monopolized the singles charts since 2002, so for any artist who doesn't fit the label can hit #2 on the Hot 100 chart is freaking miraculous. And I said pop / rock as in two different genres, not the same thing. Either way, we're both in agreement that Green Day isn't r&b or hip hop music, so I don't see what your point in correcting me is, because I was saying "I knew pop and rock were on their way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson were managing to score #2 hits on the Hot 100".

I miss the old Gwen

I'm happy for Gwen! I think that she still rocks just like when she was with NoDoubt.

I miss the old Gwen
you mean the No DOubt Gwen?

that ****'s bananas!

Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

You don't consider "Minority," "Holiday," or "Nice Guys Finish Last" pop/rock?... Because that's what they sound like to me.

Plus, isn't pop/rock a form of alt. rock?

you mean the No DOubt Gwen?

Well, she is the same person. :confused:

You don't consider "Minority," "Holiday," or "Nice Guys Finish Last" pop/rock?... Because that's what they sound like to me.

Plus, isn't pop/rock a form of alt. rock?

what!?!? you mean to tell me Green Day have songs that aren't on the American Idiot album?!?!? lol

Well, she is the same person. :confused:
That did sound stupid actually :lol: I meant the type of music No Doubt did.

I was surprised that Gwen Stefani topped the hot 100 also. What is really missing from the upper echelon of the hot 100 are what would for lack of a better term be called "adult contemporary" songs. No song like that has gone to #1 (outside of those American Idol tunes) in about 5 years. I think the last one was I Knew I Loved You by Savage Garden in 2000. Christina Aguilera came close with Beautiful in 2003, but if you check the songs on the adult contemporary format so far this year only Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway has made the top 10 in both that format and the regular hot 100. Many adult contemporay hits either don't make the hot 100 at all or chart in low to middling positions, which is weird because these tunes get played as background in offices, elevators, malls etc so they seem to be a lot more popular than the charts would indicate.

My uncle thought she was singing, "cause I ain't no Harlem black girl."

ROFL!!!

You don't consider "Minority," "Holiday," or "Nice Guys Finish Last" pop/rock?... Because that's what they sound like to me.

Plus, isn't pop/rock a form of alt. rock?

I love those songs! :) I've always thought of them as Alt. rock

don't be so damn defensive, I was listening to Green Day when you were in diapers. You probably are too young to remember the first time they were popular back in the summer of 1994, I was there. I remember when Woodstock 94 transformed them into superstars practically overnight, and when my entire class was singing Basketcase on the bus during a field trip. I can't believe I'm having to defend myself.

The point was, Green Day had a #2 single... AND THEY WEREN'T R&B/HIP HOP. R&B/Hip Hop acts have pretty much monopolized the singles charts since 2002, so for any artist who doesn't fit the label can hit #2 on the Hot 100 chart is freaking miraculous. And I said pop / rock as in two different genres, not the same thing. Either way, we're both in agreement that Green Day isn't r&b or hip hop music, so I don't see what your point in correcting me is, because I was saying "I knew pop and rock were on their way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson were managing to score #2 hits on the Hot 100".

You make it seem as if I am attacking you!!!!!!!!!! I stated a simple fact. and BTW, I have all the albums so don't judge my age.

You make it seem as if I am attacking you!!!!!!!!!! I stated a simple fact. and BTW, I have all the albums so don't judge my age.

well, your "Green Day is alt/rock, not pop/rock" post, not realizing that had nothing to do with what I was talking about, made it sound like you thought I was some 12 year old who had no idea that Green Day existed until American Idiot and knew nothing about them, when the fact was, I was a huge fan of Green Day from 94-97, I still like them but not to the extent I did eight years ago. Actually, I think it's great that Green Day is popular again, because I remember still liking them after the backlash from the Insomniac album, and everyone was all "you still like Green Day? they're over! Bush (not the president, but Gwen Stefani's husbands band) rules". Yet now look how big Green Day is, and look at how washed-up Bush is. Same applies with Weezer, I used to get laughed at for still liking them, and yet they're still well-loved while a lot of the groups that were supposedly "cool" at the time are all washed-up.

I think most people would consider Green Day pop-punk as opposed to alternative. They brought that to the mainstream ages before Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, etc.... did and unlike those, GD had credibility.

My uncle thought she was singing, "cause I ain't no Harlem black girl."

ROFL!!!

lmao...thats grounds for a good parody