View Full Version : Why you think Paul Pollis is guilty
MetalHybrid 04-22-2005, 11:54 PM I will mention that bloodstain in his garage in the floor, but they can't compare it so they can't prove it is/was his wife's blood. This was talked about briefly on a previous thread. What are some more details that make you think he and his folks got away with murder?
compulsive dvd 04-23-2005, 01:22 AM This guy gave the absolute worst interview I have ever seen on the show. He gave a vibe that just said try and catch me.
Awsi Dooger 04-23-2005, 03:34 AM Which case is that? For some reason, I'm not connecting the name.
Based on the creepy interview description, I default to the guy whose wife disappeared and he supposedly went shopping with his little daughters. Then they suspected his parents of cleaning up the house. The back shed was locked and had footprints leading up to it indicating she might have been placed there. Now that guy was weird. If he ever goes to trial, i strongly recommend he doesn't testify, for his sake. I haven't seen the episode in months/years but can still hear his voice, "It's a shed..."
If that's not the case, so sorry. The name isn't one I automatically associate with a face and segment.
Which case is that? For some reason, I'm not connecting the name.
That's the 1994 disappearance of Charlotte Nagi Pollis, a resident of Girard, Ohio. She is profiled at the Doe Network site. You can go to that profile for more details on the case. Here is the link:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1151dfoh.html
toddjharp 04-23-2005, 03:01 PM Problem is, it is rare for one to be convicted of murder without a body. If Charlotte has not been found for 11 years then her body probably will never be found.
On an earlier thread I started about this one, someone presented the theory of that maybe Charlotte's mother did it and asked if we noticed that she could not look the camera in the eye.
Also, in an interesting turn of events, Charlotte's daughter, Layla Pollis, was kidnapped in 1998 by Charlotte's mother.
Problem is, it is rare for one to be convicted of murder without a body.
Although there are some cases in which someone was convicted of murder without a body, it is understandable that there is generally a lot of unwillingness to charge someone with a "no body" murder. If the person were acquitted and the victim's corpse was found after the fact, that person could not be retried for that same case, because of double jeopardy laws.
crystaldawn 04-23-2005, 09:11 PM I don't have any doubts that he is guilty. There is a very good chance that he had help though. Don't you just love it how he sticks up for his own family when he says "I didn't have anything to do with it, nor did my family have anything to do with it......that I know of." What a guy!
Awsi Dooger 04-24-2005, 01:48 AM That's the 1994 disappearance of Charlotte Nagi Pollis, a resident of Girard, Ohio. She is profiled at the Doe Network site. You can go to that profile for more details on the case. Here is the link:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1151dfoh.html
Thanks for the link, Kane. That is the case I was trying to describe in my earlier post. Your link helped refresh my memory.
Gad, she was 5-7 and 300 pounds. No wonder there is suspicion the other family members were involved. Otherwise, all you would have to do is check the hubby for back strain or worse. I didn't know they made sheds that big.
I'm finally starting to picture the husband, thanks to the quote from crystaldawn. Goofy brown mustache and unstable guy all around. Let's sick Nancy Grace on him.
MetalHybrid 04-24-2005, 02:10 AM There was a similar case that took place two years earlier in Oklahoma where two women and one of their daughters were last seen in a mall parking lot. The woman's family thought that the husband, named Chad, and his family were guilty of something. Your thoughts on this.
crystaldawn 04-24-2005, 08:24 AM Don't get me started on that story....... :lol: It was the Wendy Camp story and the ex was so obviously guilty! I doubt too many people on the board will disagree with me on that. The only thing that has saved him and his mom (so far) is he discarded the bodies where no one has found them yet. I think the grandma, Ida, knew what was going to happen but had them drop her off not because of the arguing but so she wouldn't be directly involved. What I never understood is RS said someone who knows the family claims to have seen Cynthia (the little girl) several months after their disappearance. Police think this is a credible sighting. What? I, of course, hope she is alive and well but what are the chances? Plus if she was, she would be old enough to tell police what happened to her mom and aunt.
toddjharp 04-24-2005, 04:45 PM I think she was more like 5'2" and 300 pounds. That may have been a misprint. It's possible to put that all into a shed, but Paul definitely must have had help if that was the case.
Blackhawks2004 04-24-2005, 07:39 PM My wife and I watched this segment and both think he is not guilty. The impression that I get is that her family is devistated by the loss of their daughter and are grabbing at anything. I really dont think the guy did it or had anything to do with it, but that's just me.
Ninjaman 04-25-2005, 04:03 AM It is possible that UM primarily presented the side of the story to show that he was guilty. However, how does one deal with the testimony of the daughter, where she said something about "we saw our mom's face in the bag"? At least the way that UM showed it, it seem pretty obvious that he had something to do with her disappearance.
toddjharp 04-25-2005, 06:04 AM According to the psychologist interviewed, he claimed that the child(ren) had been coached to say that. If so it may or may not be true.
crystaldawn 04-25-2005, 11:04 AM Also didn't he leave town for a while soon after she disappeared? I think it was right around the time he agreed to take a polygraph but then never showed up for it. He claims he left because of all the people driving by and staring. I always thought he could have been disposing of her body (if it was in the shed and then they moved it) while he was gone. If he truly thought his wife could possibly come back you would think he wouldn't have left town temporarily, he would have wanted to stick around in case she came back. But in my opinion, he knew she wasn't coming back.
toddjharp 04-25-2005, 12:16 PM Yes, he left town. In his letter he stated "I love my wife and would never do anything to hurt her intentionally." It sounded like what he said on the UM interview.
Blackout 04-25-2005, 04:36 PM I agree with someone above who mentioned he gave the worst interview I've ever seen on UM, regardless of whether he was innocent or guilty
toddjharp 04-25-2005, 07:12 PM It was kind of like on the Wendy Camp segment when they interviewed her former grandmother in law, Ida Pruitt. She stated:
"Beverly and I did not have nothing to do with their disappearances."
Even worse was Camp's ex-husband.
kadrmas15 09-07-2006, 04:54 AM Well well, I was searching on this case and found something interesting. A certain Paul Pollis age 40 of Howland, Ohio and his 2nd wife Deborah Toda have both been arrested. Pollis was arrested in late July after he was indicted on charges of money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. I dont know if he is out of jail now but he was being held on 450 thousand dollars bail in the Mahoning County Jail. Pollis is set to go on trial starting October 11th. Pollis's wife is being held on 1.5 million dollars bail. She was charged with aggravated grand theft after she stole more than 1 million dollars over a two year period from a dialysis clinic where she worked as a bookkepper. It appears Pollis might be going to prison for something at least. This is indeed the same Paul Pollis whose wife disappeared because it is mentioned later in the article:
http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/286696689784714.php
LooksLikeCRicci 09-07-2006, 11:12 AM Thanks for the link... part of me wants to say that Polis's arrest has been mentioned on the boards before, but in any case, I never get tired of hearing about him in trouble. :)
Obviously, I am in the camp that he killed his wife. If you look at the note he left when he disappeared, it said "I love my wife and would never hurt her intentionally." Who's to say that her killing wasn't accidental and Paul panicked and called his parents to help him cover the crime?
Just a theory.
kadrmas15 09-07-2006, 01:49 PM Well CRicci that could be a very good possiblity. It could be that Paul and Charlotte got into some kind of argument and one way or another he killed her by accident and then as you said panicked and called his parents over to help him get rid of her body. Paul for sure had to have a minimum of one person help him move Charlotte's body. Probably two. His parents did probably help him and her body probably was in that storage shed. I cant think of any other reason why he wouldnt let Charlotte's relatives look in there.
LooksLikeCRicci 09-07-2006, 03:11 PM It would also explain why there was such a mad cleaning streak in the Polis household before the cops came...
Awsi Dooger 09-07-2006, 08:01 PM Thanks for the link... part of me wants to say that Polis's arrest has been mentioned on the boards before, but in any case, I never get tired of hearing about him in trouble. :)
Obviously, I am in the camp that he killed his wife. If you look at the note he left when he disappeared, it said "I love my wife and would never hurt her intentionally." Who's to say that her killing wasn't accidental and Paul panicked and called his parents to help him cover the crime?
Just a theory.
No, you're supposed to say just my two cents, or just sayin'. :)
I've handicapped the posters here so don't confuse me in my advancing age.
Here's the link to a different thread on this case that has some of the recent weird stuff: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159581
level headed 07-19-2007, 02:09 AM The person you have been wondering about regarding is it Paul Pollis or not. Yes, the one was Paul and the other someone close to him but definitely not his mom. His mom is everything she appears to be, very saintlike and she would give the shirt off her back to help someone. As far as his dad, if he knew Paul committed a crime, he would be the first to call the police and turn him in. The parents themselves are very law abiding citizens. I know the family but will remain as distant as I can here so as not to have it become known who I am. I am not here to condem or defend as I am fairly unbiased regarding this case. As far as Layla, the daughter, her uncle has recently filed for custody of her due to the fact that Paul is in prison but the judge thus far has decided to not touch the case. The uncle may be facing charges due to the fact that the little girls grandmother has kidnapped her and that is a federal crime. Someone must not have done their homework on that one.:rolleyes:
crystaldawn 07-19-2007, 08:47 AM The person you have been wondering about regarding is it Paul Pollis or not. Yes, the one was Paul and the other someone close to him but definitely not his mom. His mom is everything she appears to be, very saintlike and she would give the shirt off her back to help someone. As far as his dad, if he knew Paul committed a crime, he would be the first to call the police and turn him in. The parents themselves are very law abiding citizens. I know the family but will remain as distant as I can here so as not to have it become known who I am. I am not here to condem or defend as I am fairly unbiased regarding this case. As far as Layla, the daughter, her uncle has recently filed for custody of her due to the fact that Paul is in prison but the judge thus far has decided to not touch the case. The uncle may be facing charges due to the fact that the little girls grandmother has kidnapped her and that is a federal crime. Someone must not have done their homework on that one.:rolleyes:
Thanks for posting levelheaded. Its nice to get someone on here who knows the family but isn't on here lecturing us for thinking Paul Pollis is responsible for Charlotte's disappearance. My personal opinion was that Paul's mother came across as nice in the segment. One thing I didn't really get (and you maybe you can give your opinion) was that his parents were supposedly helping him clean the house from top to bottom right after Charlotte went missing. By the UM segment it was more like a spring cleaning than just everyday housekeeping. I don't necessarily think the parents were in on it if Charlotte was killed that night, but wouldn't they be suspicious if Charlotte went missing and Paul is asking them to do all this heavy cleaning?
You mentioned the uncle is filing for custody of Layla. Do you mean Charlotte's brother? It doesn't make much sense why he would try and get custody of her since she is still missing unless he knows where they are and once he gets custody the grandmother and Layla plan to return to the family.
Btw any idea how long Paul will be in prison?
level headed 07-19-2007, 11:40 AM I don't have all your answers but I do know that Uncli Ali has filed for temporary custody and what they plan on doing after that I am not aware of at this time. I would only assume she is marrying age now and that may have something to do with it. It is true that they get paid to marry off the daughters in Yemen. Paul was sentenced to 1 yr and has served 3 months. No release date has been set at this time.
I wondered the same thing; while he didn't seem to be a stand up guy, and there were a few inconsistencies in his story, I wasn't 100% convinced of his guilt.
ohyeah100582 09-19-2007, 12:10 PM Doe anyone know what happened to Paul Polis's wife who embezzeled 1.6 million dollars? Is she in jail. I would appreciate any update or link to any current articles. Thank you.
LooksLikeCRicci 09-19-2007, 08:49 PM You should run a Google search on Deborah Toda. I believe she is also in jail, but I can't be totally certain.
crystaldawn 09-19-2007, 09:28 PM You should run a Google search on Deborah Toda. I believe she is also in jail, but I can't be totally certain.
I found a blurb about her that said she was sentenced to 25 years. The article itself wouldn't load up though so I don't know any other specifics.
JRA2000TL 09-20-2007, 09:53 AM After watching that segment again, that guy looks guilty as sin. As another poster stated, his interview was really horrible and to me, had no credibility whatsoever. On top of cleaning the house, leaving after the incident, and having a neighor drive by and see his car backed up to the house, I mean c'mon.....he did it. Now that he's in jail or something else tells you he's not this great family man.
Anyway, I'm a little behind on the game. I'm trying to get caught up by watching all the UM volumes of episodes I haven't seen in over 10 years. Most of you guys are on top of these and have follwed them up to present time--I haven't quite made it that far yet.
After watching that segment again, that guy looks guilty as sin. As another poster stated, his interview was really horrible and to me, had no credibility whatsoever. On top of cleaning the house, leaving after the incident, and having a neighor drive by and see his car backed up to the house, I mean c'mon.....he did it. Now that he's in jail or something else tells you he's not this great family man.
Anyway, I'm a little behind on the game. I'm trying to get caught up by watching all the UM volumes of episodes I haven't seen in over 10 years. Most of you guys are on top of these and have follwed them up to present time--I haven't quite made it that far yet.
Because no man cares if his house is that clean! :lol:
level headed 03-26-2008, 01:06 AM Toda did get 25 yrs in prison. Paul was released about 6 weeks ago.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 06-13-2008, 04:53 AM Obviously, I am in the camp that he killed his wife. If you look at the note he left when he disappeared, it said "I love my wife and would never hurt her intentionally." Who's to say that her killing wasn't accidental and Paul panicked and called his parents to help him cover the crime?
Almost word-for-word what O. J. wrote. Were phone records checked for a call from Paul's house to his parents that night? The cleaning thing was the most suspicious part of it. If a close relative is missing, your FIRST THOUGHT would be to clean the house...why? Because police and reporters might come over and you want to impress them with your clean house? Cleaning every part of every room was to cover where the crime took place. His parents must have known that and cared enough about keeping his a$s out of jail to go along with it.
level headed 06-05-2010, 11:50 PM Toda did get 25 yrs in prison. Paul was released about 6 weeks ago.
level headed 06-06-2010, 12:02 AM Layla his daughter is safe and living in the same area she was born in. Parents sometimes do things to protect their children but covering up murder is incomprehensible. Paul is a convincing liar. He is a very calculating person but his sense of being untouchable gets him everytime. He is due to get out of prison in September of this year and reliable sources say his parents and son have turned their back on him finally.
mwcarolina 06-06-2010, 03:12 PM Layla his daughter is safe and living in the same area she was born in.
i thought Layla was missing too???? Hopefully she's been found and they arrested Charlotte Pollis' mother. I think both Paul Pollis and Charlotte's mom are morons. I think Paul's guilty, but coaching Layla isnt right. I think Paul's guilty because of many reasons, one was his interview where he came off as cocky and arrogant, but others reasons are, him NOT taking the polygraph test, the fact that we still havent found Charlotte, the padlock on the shed and not allowing them to enter it, and the witnesses. I think what Paul did was hire a friend to help him move and had his parents watch the kids while he did his crime.
level headed 11-03-2010, 11:40 PM There will be some more news soon relating to this case. There are more clear facts. It is correct that NO MAN cares if his house is that clean and if my wife was missing I would be looking for her. Since Mom and Dad have money the very least would be a private detective not an attorney for the son that is supposedly innocent. I know this is different than my original postings but it will become clear why in the future. Thanks to all the people that care about justice.
Goldiegrl 07-06-2011, 05:28 PM It's so annoying that every time a girlfriend or wife disappears they automatically think it is the husband or boyfriend. The police don't even look at anyone else, I remember a case(not an UM case) where a girl got killed and the police instantly pegged her boyfriend as the killer completely ignoring the fact that there was a sex offender living in her building who ended up being found GUILTY of killing her. On this segment they also mentioned the size of the wife compared to the husband it would be very noticeable and hard for him to carry he body away from the house and don't believe that neighbor, who pays attention to what their neighbor is doing at their car or what they are putting in it, or who is in the backseat?
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 07-07-2011, 05:54 AM He acted guilty and if not him who else? Were his parents covering for him, or were they all covering for someone else? Who else would have motive, means, and opportunity?
Judyhymesisalive 04-18-2016, 11:48 AM I really think they got into an argument and Paul hit her or bashed with something and it got out of control from there. Like other posters have said parents do things for their kids to protect them.
wiseguy182 04-18-2016, 12:00 PM I really think they got into an argument and Paul hit her or bashed with something and it got out of control from there.
I don't know, I think she fell asleep as soon as they got home.
LooksLikeCRicci 04-18-2016, 02:01 PM Totally off topic, but Layla Nagi is on Facebook. She's the spitting image of her mother and very very pretty.
Interesting note: One entry on her page noted the anniversary of her mother's disappearance and commented that "I will not stop until he's put away for good."
Hmm. Guess you know who SHE thinks offed her mom.
Judyhymesisalive 04-18-2016, 03:01 PM https://www.facebook.com/layla.nagi.5 is this her?
LooksLikeCRicci 04-19-2016, 12:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/layla.nagi.5 is this her?
Yes. You have to scroll down quite a bit to see, but she puts a picture of Charlotte up on May 6, 2011.
On March 12, 2011, she makes the post I commented on earlier-- regarding never forgetting her mom after 17 years and fighting until "he" is put away.
Judyhymesisalive 04-19-2016, 01:41 PM Yes i did scroll down and see it. She looks very like her Mother. I also noticed a 'Aden Pollis' on her friends list, i wonder if that's her brother?
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