1.I found it so weird when a trader is looking for the COMPLETE SERIES of a certain TV Show. My question is who has time to copy an entire series?

2.Second thing I find weird is a trader is looking for hard to find tv shows on DVD when the show hasn't been found on VHS-lol


Those are the two things that makes me laugh so hard when tape trading.

solomon

i collect shows as complete series here are some of the reasons why

1.instead of having shows all over the place my tapes can be neatly labelled and are often already in airdate order,thanks to some very efficient traders :D

2.i often get requests for particular episodes and i don't have to scratch my head wondering if i have it .i recently sent 2 episodes of a show half way round the world just so the trader could complete his set !! ;)

3.completing a series piece by piece can be very time consuming and very costly for someone like me,so i like to get it over and done with.

it is surprising just how many people out there do have complete sets of shows even rare ones.i would say for the good dozen or more shows that i am after i have recieved offers for complete sets on everyone of them.
also the time taken to make copies for me doesn't seem to bother most traders/sellers as long as i am wiling to pay/trade accordingly!! :wave:

solomon

i collect shows as complete series here are some of the reasons why

1.instead of having shows all over the place my tapes can be neatly labelled and are often already in airdate order,thanks to some very efficient traders :D

2.i often get requests for particular episodes and i don't have to scratch my head wondering if i have it .i recently sent 2 episodes of a show half way round the world just so the trader could complete his set !! ;)

3.completing a series piece by piece can be very time consuming and very costly for someone like me,so i like to get it over and done with.

it is surprising just how many people out there do have complete sets of shows even rare ones.i would say for the good dozen or more shows that i am after i have recieved offers for complete sets on everyone of them.
also the time taken to make copies for me doesn't seem to bother most traders/sellers as long as i am wiling to pay/trade accordingly!! :wave:



So are you usually ready to wait more than a month to receive the complete series of a certain show once you start a trade?

yes!

i am prepared to wait a month or two if i think it will be worth it.often i get surface mail 8 weeks just to keep costs down,so my package usually takes that long anyway!
for one show i wanted i was prepared to wait 6 months and that was for only half the series!!!!! :crazy:

I don't miind waiting and have waited as well.


and the DVD requests are not unusual because it is actually faster to make than VHS tapes. I have a burner that isn't hooked up to my computer. Ten minutes and the DVD is done. Ten minutes of copying over six hours on VHS.

I can turn it around and say it is amazing how many people out there have not discovered how more efficient and quick it is to trade DVDs and have much better quality than to still be stuck in the middle ages with primative VHS tapes.

But that is just me. The future is a reality. why do you think this is no longer considered the TAPE TRADING board. and now just the trading post.

I as a DVD trader am laughing at you.

believe me! if i could afford a dvd recorder i would have one now,they are so much better than tapes.a lot of the shows i am receiving now are offered to me on dvd.another thing is it is so much cheaper for traders/sellers to send sample dvd's so i can view the quality that i get a better chance of not getting burned! :wave:

I don't miind waiting and have waited as well.


and the DVD requests are not unusual because it is actually faster to make than VHS tapes. I have a burner that isn't hooked up to my computer. Ten minutes and the DVD is done. Ten minutes of copying over six hours on VHS.

I can turn it around and say it is amazing how many people out there have not discovered how more efficient and quick it is to trade DVDs and have much better quality than to still be stuck in the middle ages with primative VHS tapes.

But that is just me. The future is a reality. why do you think this is no longer considered the TAPE TRADING board. and now just the trading post.

I as a DVD trader am laughing at you.




I'm talking about RARE TV SHOWS from 30 years ago that never went into syndication. Why the hell would i ask for that on DVD?

I don't miind waiting and have waited as well.


and the DVD requests are not unusual because it is actually faster to make than VHS tapes. I have a burner that isn't hooked up to my computer. Ten minutes and the DVD is done. Ten minutes of copying over six hours on VHS.

I can turn it around and say it is amazing how many people out there have not discovered how more efficient and quick it is to trade DVDs and have much better quality than to still be stuck in the middle ages with primative VHS tapes.

But that is just me. The future is a reality. why do you think this is no longer considered the TAPE TRADING board. and now just the trading post.

I as a DVD trader am laughing at you.



Are you still looking for the Original First Episode of the Flip Wilson Show that aired on NBC in 1970 with all commercials on DVD?-LOL

If its on VHS it could easily be transferred to dvd, therefore making it not an unusal request.

Liam

If its on VHS it could easily be transferred to dvd, therefore making it not an unusal request.

Liam


That is true but you still hae to find out if the show even EXIST before asking for it on DVD. Take a show like One Day at a Time, it has been hard to find this show on VHS for years so it's silly to look for it on DVD.

I found it so weird when a trader is looking for the COMPLETE SERIES of a certain TV Show. My question is who has time to copy an entire series?
With most people (it seems to me) now doing dvds and with dvd burning speeds now up to 16X, time is hardly a factor so far as copying is concerned. The amount of time you'd spend building a complete series doing it episode by episode is vastly longer. It is sooo much more convenient to do it in one fell swoop.

Second thing I find weird is a trader is looking for hard to find tv shows on DVD when the show hasn't been found on VHS
True that if a video isn't available on any format then it's not going to show up on dvd either, but IF it is available on VHS then clearly it's only a matter of time till someone who has a copy gets around to archiving it onto dvd. Unfortunately, there is no central database to determine what's been found and what hasn't so all one can do is ask around for what they're looking for. I'm not so sure that I would call that weird - how would one ever know if what they wanted was available or not if they didn't ask?

With most people (it seems to me) now doing dvds and with dvd burning speeds now up to 16X, time is hardly a factor so far as copying is concerned. The amount of time you'd spend building a complete series doing it episode by episode is vastly longer. It is sooo much more convenient to do it in one fell swoop.


True that if a video isn't available on any format then it's not going to show up on dvd either, but IF it is available on VHS then clearly it's only a matter of time till someone who has a copy gets around to archiving it onto dvd. Unfortunately, there is no central database to determine what's been found and what hasn't so all one can do is ask around for what they're looking for. I'm not so sure that I would call that weird - how would one ever know if what they wanted was available or not if they didn't ask?


When it comes to very hard to find tv shows, DVD should be considered a Plus. Someone on here was looking for Brady TV Shows and I informed him I have the very rare BRady Bunch Variety Hour from 1977 and then he asked was it on DVD. I said no and he never replied back-lol I guess he think this is 2056

When it comes to very hard to find tv shows, DVD should be considered a Plus.
Perhaps. It depends upon whether or not the person who has very hard to find tv shows has a dvd recorder or not. If they do, it should be expected, not considered a plus.

I have a theory that says that no show is hard to find. It either exists and can be found with varying degrees of effort, or it simply doesn't and therefore is impossible to find. For examples I would say that (most episodes from) the last 2 seasons of Mannix and the series Loves Me, Love Me Not simply do not exist anywhere. Sort of like the post you made a while back about one missing episode of Joannie Loves Chachi where the guy who recorded the rest of the series missed one ep - did anybody else record (and keep) it? Or does it not exist for the getting? What do you think, any merit to that?

the very rare BRady Bunch Variety Hour from 1977

The thing with rarity is that old shows like that, where there is likely only one master copy around, only remain rare if they are not traded. If you didn't record that BB Variet Hour yourself, then you got it from someone. How many people did the guy you got it from trade it to as well? How many people have you traded it to? And how many of them have traded it? etc. Rarity loses meaning pretty quickly once something gets out into the trading community. Rest assured that someone in the community will put it onto dvd well before 2056, if it hasn't been done already.

Perhaps. It depends upon whether or not the person who has very hard to find tv shows has a dvd recorder or not. If they do, it should be expected, not considered a plus.

I have a theory that says that no show is hard to find. It either exists and can be found with varying degrees of effort, or it simply doesn't and therefore is impossible to find. For examples I would say that (most episodes from) the last 2 seasons of Mannix and the series Loves Me, Love Me Not simply do not exist anywhere. Sort of like the post you made a while back about one missing episode of Joannie Loves Chachi where the guy who recorded the rest of the series missed one ep - did anybody else record (and keep) it? Or does it not exist for the getting? What do you think, any merit to that?



The thing with rarity is that old shows like that, where there is likely only one master copy around, only remain rare if they are not traded. If you didn't record that BB Variet Hour yourself, then you got it from someone. How many people did the guy you got it from trade it to as well? How many people have you traded it to? And how many of them have traded it? etc. Rarity loses meaning pretty quickly once something gets out into the trading community. Rest assured that someone in the community will put it onto dvd well before 2056, if it hasn't been done already.




Well when I say rare, i mean that the show is not being shown on cable and hasn;'t been for years or on VHS or DVD. I'm still looking for Checking In and have come to the conclusion that it doesn;t exist. Hopefully I'm wrong but I know I would never ask for it on DVD-lol

Well when I say rare, i mean that the show is not being shown on cable and hasn;'t been for years or on VHS or DVD. I'm still looking for Checking In and have come to the conclusion that it doesn;t exist. Hopefully I'm wrong but I know I would never ask for it on DVD-lol

putting another spin on what your saying!

i would also not ask for a show that i considered to be in the pocession of 1 or 2 traders if it could be put on dvd.and here's why

1. i now consider the tape trading boards to be more of a sellers market than a buyers market.i used to be able to ask every question known to man and the trader/seller would happily answer them.i was averaging more than 10 replies per request.but now i ask only the bare minimum because the person on the other end gives up a lot easier and i am also only averaging about 3 replies

2.when i know a show is scarce i just want to receive it in any format i can play,i now let the trader/seller tell me wether it can be put on dvd

what frustrates me is if this was a perfect world we could take a master copy of a show we all wanted, form a group and distribute that copy to every member who would make a copy for themselves and then hand it back to the ringleader.i have heard this done on other sites/groups but there would have to be lots of rules and regulations!! :wave:

putting another spin on what your saying!

i would also not ask for a show that i considered to be in the pocession of 1 or 2 traders if it could be put on dvd.and here's why

1. i now consider the tape trading boards to be more of a sellers market than a buyers market.i used to be able to ask every question known to man and the trader/seller would happily answer them.i was averaging more than 10 replies per request.but now i ask only the bare minimum because the person on the other end gives up a lot easier and i am also only averaging about 3 replies

2.when i know a show is scarce i just want to receive it in any format i can play,i now let the trader/seller tell me wether it can be put on dvd

what frustrates me is if this was a perfect world we could take a master copy of a show we all wanted, form a group and distribute that copy to every member who would make a copy for themselves and then hand it back to the ringleader.i have heard this done on other sites/groups but there would have to be lots of rules and regulations!! :wave:



They do that on a Sports Trading Board I'm apart of. They call it WEEDING. Someone will create a post and ask-"anyone want someone Weed?-LOL Or I have some new weed"

i don't think weed would play well in my vcr it wouldn't track properly and the picture would be about 8th generation!!! :D :D

Well when I say rare, i mean that the show is not being shown on cable and hasn;'t been for years or on VHS or DVD.
So what you're really saying, is that by "rare" you don't necessarily mean, well, "rare", since lots of shows that aren't released and haven't been broadcast in years circulate in trading circles.

Take a show like One Day at a Time, it has been hard to find this show on VHS for years so it's silly to look for it on DVD.
I'm pretty sure I can get eps of it on dvd. Should I try? Or should I not because that would make me silly?

I'm talking about RARE TV SHOWS from 30 years ago that never went into syndication. Why the hell would i ask for that on DVD?


Perhaps because the collector transferred it from his VHS to DVD. did that ever seep into your brain?

That is true but you still hae to find out if the show even EXIST before asking for it on DVD. Take a show like One Day at a Time, it has been hard to find this show on VHS for years so it's silly to look for it on DVD.


No. I found it on DVD. Transferred from VHS but still DVD. The only thing silly is yourself my friend.

lazygrae!! did you still want that show 'mod squad' because i have found a trader who has this show,i am not sure if it is the broadcast version you are looking for though?? :wave:

i don't think weed would play well in my vcr it wouldn't track properly and the picture would be about 8th generation!!! :D :D


LOL-No i mean that a trader announces he has WEED. So he sends the Master to another Trader and that Trader has to make a copy of the Master for 3 others Traders and then pass the Weed to another trader and that trader does the same. So no it wouldn't be 8th generation cop-lol

No. I found it on DVD. Transferred from VHS but still DVD. The only thing silly is yourself my friend.


You didn't find Sh%T on DVD. Stop lying Dude.

Jason: Very interested. Just got a bunch more MTMs today myself - only need about 15 more to complete the set. How is that going for you?

The only thing silly is yourself my friend.
:lol: :lol:

You didn't find Sh%T on DVD. Stop lying Dude.


Ok I'm a liar. LOL. I am so out to impress you. LOL

Nobody digs what you are saying man.

DVD is what it is now.

People archive shows on DVD now.

Spend some of your illegally earned money and by yourself a burner. and a recorder and transfer you list to DVD.

There is somebody on One Day at a Time board right now offering VHS copies of it..

Deal with it. Your whole argument is a moutain out of a molehill and you know it.

VHS indeed. LOL.

You didn't find Sh%T on DVD. Stop lying Dude.
Don't misunderstand me, I have no idea if he found it or not. But what makes you so certain that he didn't that you'd publicly call him a liar?

LOL-No i mean that a trader announces he has WEED. So he sends the Master to another Trader and that Trader has to make a copy of the Master for 3 others Traders and then pass the Weed to another trader and that trader does the same. So no it wouldn't be 8th generation cop-lol

I don't know what this weed stuff is you are mumbling about but I suggest you stop smoking it as it is distorting your sense of reality.

Ok I'm a liar. LOL. I am so out to impress you. LOL

Nobody digs what you are saying man.

DVD is what it is now.

People archive shows on DVD now.

Spend some of your illegally earned money and by yourself a burner. and a recorder and transfer you list to DVD.

There is somebody on One Day at a Time board right now offering VHS copies of it..

Deal with it. Your whole argument is a moutain out of a molehill and you know it.

VHS indeed. LOL.




WEll everyone can't buy a DVD recorder. Maybe I will be a DVD Trader in 2008/2009

Don't misunderstand me, I have no idea if he found it or not. But what makes you so certain that he didn't that you'd publicly call him a liar?


because he has the mentality of a five year old when they cry "liar liar"

What is so rare about friggin one day at a time. It aired on E only a few years ago as well as a ton of metromedia channels.


I don't care that he calls me a liar. He just wants to be right. and is a fish out of water because nobody is buying into what he is selling.

What else do you expect from a person that has to sell illegal bootlegs for a living?

I don't know what this weed stuff is you are mumbling about but I suggest you stop smoking it as it is distorting your sense of reality.


I explained how the Weed Works.

WEll everyone can't buy a DVD recorder. Maybe I will be a DVD Trader in 2008/2009


Well good. A lot of us have them now. and transferred our VIDEO collection to DVD. Took me forever but I did it. Now whenever I make a trade a DVD is just a matter of minutes. And I ask for DVD because I don't have the time to sit there and transfer them to DVD myself. Plus I save that generation.. If it is something I really want I will do it. But I have not had too much trouble finding people with complete sets of shows on DVD. This very board is full of them.

Well good. A lot of us have them now. and transferred our VIDEO collection to DVD. Took me forever but I did it. Now whenever I make a trade a DVD is just a matter of minutes. And I ask for DVD because I don't have the time to sit there and transfer them to DVD myself. Plus I save that generation.. If it is something I really want I will do it. But I have not had too much trouble finding people with complete sets of shows on DVD. This very board is full of them.


It seems like this Trading board has no traders who carry tv shows from 1970-79. To me this board is full if traders with shows from the 90's and after or the 60's and before. No 70's shows. I might be the only one

It seems like this Trading board has no traders who carry tv shows from 1970-79. To me this board is full if traders with shows from the 90's and after or the 60's and before. No 70's shows. I might be the only one

You can't be serious.

You can't be serious.


I never see Anyone post shows from the 70's on this board. Most of the shows I obtained from the 70's were from other boards. Seems like the majority is all 90's and after.

I never see Anyone post shows from the 70's on this board. Most of the shows I obtained from the 70's were from other boards. Seems like the majority is all 90's and after.
This site isn't as active as some trading boards, and the majority of people are looking for 90's and after. Now, that is true.

I think "rarely" would be more accurate than "never". For example, I posted my search for Room 222, if you recall.

This site isn't as active as some trading boards, and the majority of people are looking for 90's and after. Now, that is true.

I think "rarely" would be more accurate than "never". For example, I posted my search for Room 222, if you recall.



I meant that most of the time, traders on this board don't post the shows they have in their collection from the 70's.

I meant that most of the time
You know, it would be a lot clearer to everybody if you would just say what you mean in the first place. As opposed to saying "never" when you mean most of the time, "very rare" when you mean not in syndication etc.

We'll see how your new thread goes, although it will hardly prove anything if it doesn't get overwhelmed with responses. Many people have their lists online here and it is certainly possible that they aren't willing to re-type them, or even cut and paste them just for the sake of responding to your post. Your wording almost guarantees that you won't get any responses from anybody who don't want to trade with you. I can think of one trader on this board who collects 70s shows that you probably won't hear from simply because you called him a liar earlier in this thread. Alienating people so they don't respond will not make you right. You can disprove the 'I'm the only one here with 70s shows' theory by doing your own research going through old posts. Right now there are at least 6 posts on the 1st page alone dealing with 70s shows. All you have to do is look.

Hi,
I would consider my own collection to span the 1930s thru the present day with movies, serials, tv shows, etc etc etc, now in the realm of about 20,000 plus programs. Amazingly enough, I have never done a list or catalog and I keep it straight in my head (most of the time). my point is, I rarely post my trading list b/c it is too large and I have never done it. I like to work off of folk's want list as I find it much easier and convenient for all involved. However, there are times I miss a trade b/c I do not have the list done. Anyhow the point of my post is that there are plenty of us on here who have large older collections, we just do not post it.

Also, as for dvd, I prefer dvd for many reasons, 1. NO generation loss 2. Convenience and cheap to ship 3. The future, they will last much longer and are easier to store and take up much less storage space.

Another comment much like others, if something is out there in any form (16mm film, vhs, etc) it can be put on dvd today with relative ease.

As for trading, if you trust and have traded with folks long enough, you can always do what I do, if someone is dying for a show but they can't make copies, I do it for them, (works for me since I get what I want at a higher generation). I have also archived stuff for folks in trade as well as converted PAL too. Whatever works on a particular trade.

I never see Anyone post shows from the 70's on this board. Most of the shows I obtained from the 70's were from other boards. Seems like the majority is all 90's and after.

please put a list of all the complete series you have from any time period, and i would be quite pleased to trdae with you

please note i said complete series, i dont want a hodge podge of unconnected episodes

loren

...I can think of one trader on this board who collects 70s shows that you probably won't hear from simply because you called him a liar earlier in this thread. Alienating people so they don't respond will not make you right. ...
Graeme,

When deciding who I will trade with, it is more important to me to work with someone honest and polite than with someone that has a goldmine.

Months ago I refused a trade with one of the most well known traders primarily because of his attitude on the board and in personal emails. Life is too short to subject myself to rude behavior. There are plenty of other fish in the sea. Eventually, the shows I'm looking for do come around. It's just a matter of time.

By the way, I've got a great lead on a large set of Room 222. I'll let you know if something pans out. :wave:

For the longest time I have been searching for "The White Shadow"

To my knowledge the last time it was aired was on ESPN Classic (about 3 years ago)
Before that, I think it was on NiK@Night

DOES ANYBODY HAVE EPISODES FROM "THE WHITE SHADOW" ???


I will trade anything for this !!!


Thx
Joker

Here's another strange one...

Recently, a trader asked if one of my series' was a shortened version, and I told him that I would check and get back with him at a later date.

Meanwhile, my husband told me that I really needed to bow out of some trades to relieve some of the pressure of being overwhelmed with too many agreements. So I emailed the trader and told him that although I wasn't certain nor had I even checked the series in question, I had a suspicion that they were, indeed, the shortened version. Disappointed in me, the trader emailed me, accusing me of being dishonest. :crazy:

heres 2 more cents worth

a while back a guy responded to my wanted post, i clearly stated TRADE, after a couple emails a trade was not possible

but of course a $ 50 per tape price was avaible

well now all of a sudden a couple months later this same person emails me and suddenly wants to trade

wouldnt you know that the episodes i wanted and he wanted $ 50 for, all of a sudden were not on the trade list

morale of the story, many times a person makes their own problem by being greedy, i sell discs all the time at a fair price when someone doesnt have a trade i need to offer. i sell at $ 3 to 4 a disc. perhaps asking for $ 50 a tape is a good reason to pass on a future deal.

i think so

i find if your fair with people and do what you say, one will get a lot of trade action

I'm talking about RARE TV SHOWS from 30 years ago that never went into syndication. Why the hell would i ask for that on DVD?

At one time al tv shows were stored on vhs tapes as that was the only medium. My collection consists of 95 percent shows from the 50's and 60's and even some from the late forties, all has been transferred to dvd while not sold comercially. When you copy or transfer from tape to dvd there is no loss in quality but when you dub tape to tape, the second generation is many cases is unwatchable. With dvds the 15th copy is as good as the first. I have no idea how tape traders handle full series that say are on 17 tapes. The time frame is enormous. You can burn 15 dvds easily in one day so my question is why wait mos when you don't have to? Dvds are now 40 cents a piece and I can put 5 one hour shows on them and they will look great. Do that on a tape and boffo. It's quicker, costs less, gives a better prodcut, takes up less space in the house and doesn't self destruct like tapes.

Tapes were great and so was the model T Ford.

Harvey

Tapes were great and so was the model T Ford.
Harvey
:lol: :rotflmao: :rofl:

Harvey,

Here here, great post and right on point.

I still have 16mm films, but they have all been archived to dvd since they will eventually go by the "wayside" due to age. VHS will go bad too, although I have to admit, some of the tapes I have from the early 80s are in good shape and sometimes better shape than some of the more recent ones, they must have made them better than, they are definitely heavier!

Tom

Tapes produced in the '80s definitely are heavier, and I think of higher quality, too. I do remember paying $35 for a single blank VHS tape back in 1978 - a major reason why so little off-air material exists from the 1970s - equipment and tapes were so expensive (I took out a $2500 loan to buy my first VCR) that you had to be really selective about you taped. And doing a trade could take months back and forth, since it was all done by mail or by telephone - no instant e-mail. A lot of people who traded back then have long since left the hobby, or like me, left for a long time and have come back.

One of the great advantages to DVD for me is archiving precious tapes - I don't get rid of the tapes, but I've taken a snapshot of the tape to preserve it. Every time you play a tape, you scrape a little more magnetic material off the substrate - a minute amount, yes, but over time you will see degradation of the tape. So transferring to disc means I can put some of my old stuff into circulation without further endangering my originals. So I get to watch the stuff too. Plus, I've still got a lot of stuff on Beta and PAL, and the machines I have for playing those tapes back are getting older and aren't so easy to replace.

In terms of trading, I've become very careful about what I will copy at any given time - if it's on disc already, I'm much more likely to agree to a trade. If I've got to transfer it, I may well refuse a trade right now because there are other shows ahead of it in priority to me. I only have so much time and so many VCRS and only one DVD recorder, so unless I'm trading for something I want badly, I'm dictating the order in which programs get transferred to disc. There have been a couple of people who've gotten angry with me for not being willing to drop everything and convert the show they want from my collection - these are often the same people who don't have anything I want, as well. :<

A downside I see to the whole-hearted embrace of DVD trading is that there are still a lot of great traders out there with truly rare and wonderful stuff who are still using only VHS (or Beta). Tape trading takes time, frequently a lot more time than it takes to do a disc trade. Patience is a key element in that type of trading. It should be in any kind of trading, IMHO, but it's especially important where duplication has to be done in real-time. The instant gratification quality of disc trading does seem to be encouraging a lack of patience among newer traders. This lack of patience (and in the case of some, lack of manners) can alienate old-school traders (and frighten newbies). I tend to go by the mantra, "Manners matter."

The instant gratification quality of disc trading does seem to be encouraging a lack of patience among newer traders.
We've also seen tape traders get vehement with DVD traders in defense of videos. The moral of the story is to respect each other's likes/dislikes and agree to disagree because one day any of us may change our preference. After putting most of my collection onto DVDs, I cringe with the thought of a different form of media taking the place of DVDs.

Expressing ones opinion about their preferences is a far cry from name calling, and mud slinging, which is why posts have been deleted within recent days. ohno:

The main point is everyone may not be able to get a DVD recorder at this time which is why they are currently VHS traders. So stop looking down n folks who are not able to be DVD only traders. I can't stand snobbish traders

Snobbishness is one thing. Being able to have the liberty to pick and choose who we will trade with is another story. We should be able to say no without being called a snob or other nasty names.

Snobbishness is one thing. Being able to have the liberty to pick and choose who we will trade with is another story. We should be able to say no without being called a snob or other nasty names.



Well SitcomOnline should have two different Trading Boards, one for DVD only and the other VHS only and that would put an end to all this silly stuff.

Not a bad idea, but most traders trade both video and DVD, depending upon how rare the show is.

I also dislike snobish people and in no way would I look down upon anyone. I also do not have or intend to buy a dvd recorder in the near future as it serves no purpose to me but then again i never saved tapes either.

I began by collecting old time radio progrmas in mp3 format and still listen to them. About 5 years ago a neighbor of mine showed me what he was doing. With a capture card in his computer and a vhs machine hooked up to the computer, he would dump the contents of the tape to the hard drive in what is called a mpeg file. Burning it with Nero gave us a vcd. We scoured the libraries for as many tapes as we could. On a cd you were able to put 8o minutes of video, if movie longer, then 2 vcds. So we were saving these films not on tape but on cds. Not being interested in the new shows we didn't tape off tv. Then came dvds and that opened new doors, you could take tapes if you had and burn them to dvds. I had no tapes but I started trading my vcd collection. I grew up with the b westerns as a kid and have about 400 in vcd format. Traded many of those for dvds. Think at the time it was 3 vcds for one dvd. Started picking up old tv shows. Remember all you need and I believe it was pointed out is 2 or 3 good sets and you can trade them many times over. Example, today I picked up over 100 Highway Patrol and yes, I watched it in the 50's and 4 dvds of Jack Benny.

So my collection grew and let me say now what's so important. I met a lot of nice people along the way. The one lady I trade with extensively on this site is Agent 13, a nicer person you can't find. If one of us has, we send to each other and the other will make it up sometime down the road. Today I sent her Mike Hammer's again from the 50's. These are 42 episodes and if on tape and copying in real time would take days and days. I live in a 3 bedroom co-op and if my daughter didn't marry and give me that room to store the dvds my wife would put me in the street. Tapes would be ludicrous. No room.

Costs. 7 dvds of Hammer at 40 cents a piece or $2.80. Postage, first class about a buck forty five. Have no idea what it would cost to mail a bunch of tapes but I'm sure more.

So to conclude, I have nothing against tape traders, everyone to their choice but then again I'm not for creamed spinach either

With most people (it seems to me) now doing dvds and with dvd burning speeds now up to 16X, time is hardly a factor so far as copying is concerned.

It is a factor if you have a stand alone DVDR. Mine records in real time, just like a VCR.

So to conclude, I have nothing against tape traders, everyone to their choice but then again I'm not for creamed spinach either
I died laughing when I read this one, Harvey. :lol: :happyface

Well spoken, Harvey, my number one trader, though I don't like to advertise that too loudly lest you become so popular you end up finding yourself too busy to trade with me. :D