I think these shows will still be on the air ten years from now.

ER is the one I see an end to soonest, especially with Wyle's exit.

Why doesn't NBC just axe it now? I mean, they are way too leanient on their dramas. The way NBC's going, they should've kept Friends on despite the cast leaving (unless a few would've stayed an 11th year) and replace the departed with new actors. IMO, ER without Clooney, Edwards and Wyle is like Friends without Aniston, Cox and Perry.

er i still enjoy it but its not what it once was

I think L&O will be on forever, the revolving cast works for what the show, because the main characters aren't all that important.

ER will most likely be gone the soonest.

As for The Simpsons, I've heard 2009 as a possible final year.
That would be nice, 20 seasons even, although I think it could go for 25.

I foresee ER ending the soonest.


It'd be pretty damn cool if The Simpsons went on for 20 years. :D

Originally posted by Riff
The Simpsons.

No matter how many viewers she manages to drive away, Gail Berman always seems to avoid the chopping block, so as soon as she runs out of things to cancel, she'll turn her attention to America's no-longer-favorite cartoon family.

All it takes is one look at the ratings of stuff like "LAX" and "American Dreck" to see just how much NBC still needs "Law & Order" and "ER."

"ER" will go before "L&O," though. They own "L&O" now, thanks to the Universal merger, and "ER's" license fee is astronomical. i like your name for american dreams thats what i think of that show too im a dick clark fan from wayback but this show stinks and as far as accuracy goes the flintstones was more accurate than american dreams i dont usally bash shows here but since you dont like it ether i just thought i would rant

Originally posted by Riff
All it takes is one look at the ratings of stuff like "LAX" and "American Dreck" to see just how much NBC still needs "Law & Order" and "ER."

Riff, what's "American Dreck"?

American Dreams.

I see "ER" gone within the next two seasons. It's setting nearly weekly series lows now and is losing its timeslot for the first time ever. That wouldn't be so bad were the show not costing NBC $7 million dollars an episode. Last week, the show drew 16.8mil viewers, a far cry from the 20-23 million is was drawing just two years ago, and less than half of what it used to draw. I don't think NBC will turn a profit this year anyway, especially with the loss of Thursdays and "Law & Order" taking a beating. The network is in third place on the season in adults- a demo which is owned just a year ago. Over the next two years I see NBC doing some major restructuring, just like ABC has done over the past few years. It needs to come up with something fresh if it is to win viewers back. Basically, it needs to find some scripted shows that don't have the words "Law" or "Order" in the title.

On that note, it has renewed "Medical Investigation" for a full season, which is doing surprzingly well on Fridays. The other new shows though, are not doing so well. "LAX" is likely to be gone by December, and "Father" probably won't live to season a second season. "Hawaii" has been cancelled, while "Joey" has been renewed, but a second season is a lot more iffy than it was just a month ago. This year will also likely see the end of "American Dreams" (series low last week) and "Third Watch." Oh well, I guess NBC can always expand out on Dateline again...

Even though I love ER I think it will be gone within a few seasons as well. NBC is losing viewers left and right. Despite the fact that I really hate how pathetic The Simpsons has become I cannot see it ending any time soon. And Law & Order seems to have some sort of pact with the devil to never be cancelled.

Last night, NBC averaged just 13.8 million viewers- "ER" hit another series low (16.2mil) and "Joey" drew just 11.4mil. NBC really needs to do something drastic on this night- what it has obviously isn't working.

Originally posted by Riff
The Simpsons.

No matter how many viewers she manages to drive away, Gail Berman always seems to avoid the chopping block, so as soon as she runs out of things to cancel, she'll turn her attention to America's no-longer-favorite cartoon family.

All it takes is one look at the ratings of stuff like "LAX" and "American Dreck" to see just how much NBC still needs "Law & Order" and "ER."

"ER" will go before "L&O," though. They own "L&O" now, thanks to the Universal merger, and "ER's" license fee is astronomical.


In every post, why must you bash shows? Geesh, it gets annoying, if you don't like them fine, but you don't need to bash them with every single post :rolleyes:



Anywho, I think ER will be gone this year or next, for some reason, I have a feeling this is ER's last season, we just won't find out till early next year though, but don't quote me on that ;)

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
In every post, why must you bash shows? Geesh, it gets annoying, if you don't like them fine, but you don't need to bash them with every single post :rolleyes:

I agree, just because a show is low-rated doesn't mean it's a bad show. By Riff's logic (saying that Scrubs and Arrested Development suck because they aren't pulling in 20 million viewers a week), American Idol is the greatest show on television :rolleyes:

About the ER thing, that would be a big surprise, but by May NBC will probably be looking for a series to send off just for the short term ratings gauin:)

:lol: I like that last choice. I voted ER though.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I agree, just because a show is low-rated doesn't mean it's a bad show. By Riff's logic (saying that Scrubs and Arrested Development suck because they aren't pulling in 20 million viewers a week), American Idol is the greatest show on television :rolleyes:

Actually "Desperate Housewives" would be, but then again, it really is the greatest show on television.

Originally posted by JT
Actually "Desperate Housewives" would be, but then again, it really is the greatest show on television.

Nope, CSI would be.

Not to say CSI is bad TV, I just don't personally like it.

The Simpsons. Does anybody ever get bored of hearing the same old ****? Like D'oh! and Ay caramba. Man, heck it's not even that funny. You only laugh like 2 or 3 times if you watch 1 episode. In Family Guy, Seth McFarland is creative and makes Family Guy hilarious. I dare anybody to watch just 1 family guy episode and tell me how many times you have laughed.

Originally posted by Sargent Stewie
The Simpsons. Does anybody ever get bored of hearing the same old ****? Like D'oh! and Ay caramba. Man, heck it's not even that funny. You only laugh like 2 or 3 times if you watch 1 episode. In Family Guy, Seth McFarland is creative and makes Family Guy hilarious. I dare anybody to watch just 1 family guy episode and tell me how many times you have laughed.

It's entertained viewers for 16 seasons, so they must be doing something right. ;)

Originally posted by PZelda
It's entertained viewers for 16 seasons, so they must be doing something right. ;)

Personally, seasons 3 - 9 were the best seasons of the show. I still prefer the first two over the last couple of ones, but they haven't found their footing yet, so it was a bit boring at times. And now, it's just terrible. I'll still catch an episode once in a while, and others watch out of loyalty, but the show has lost that part that made it so great seasons ago, at least in my opinion.

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
Personally, seasons 3 - 9 were the best seasons of the show. I still prefer the first two over the last couple of ones, but they haven't found their footing yet, so it was a bit boring at times. And now, it's just terrible. I'll still catch an episode once in a while, and others watch out of loyalty, but the show has lost that part that made it so great seasons ago, at least in my opinion.

I agree that 3-9 were the best of the show. (I think it peaked at 6), but bad Simpsons is better than a lot of TV.
Sure, its not as great as it was at one point, but I still find it entertaining.

Originally posted by barwars
I agree that 3-9 were the best of the show. (I think it peaked at 6), but bad Simpsons is better than a lot of TV.
Sure, its not as great as it was at one point, but I still find it entertaining.

Exactly...If I had a choice between watching the Simpsons and reality shows for eternity, I'd pick Simpsons. :D

All things must come to an end. if you ask me "ER" has one more season left. "Law and Order" will finish up in 2010 just in time to tie with "Gunsmoke" as longest running drama and "The Simpsons" will most likely complete in 2009, unless something happens to change that.

Unless The Simpsons can stop the ratings decline, with the voice actors all making 300,000 an episode now, the show will quickly become unprofitable.

Originally posted by db108108
Unless The Simpsons can stop the ratings decline, with the voice actors all making 300,000 an episode now, the show will quickly become unprofitable.

Merchandising alone should keep The Simpsons around for a long time.

I was 3 when the Simpsons started and will be in my mid twenties if it ends this decade

Originally posted by db108108
Unless The Simpsons can stop the ratings decline, with the voice actors all making 300,000 an episode now, the show will quickly become unprofitable.

we already are guarenteed new Simpsons until 2009