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Brent88 10-20-2004, 05:30 PM 'Amazing Race' Sends 'Clubhouse' to Saturday Bench
(Wednesday, October 20 11:00 AM)
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) CBS isn't benching struggling freshman drama "Clubhouse," but the network seems to have decided that the show isn't worthy of a place in its starting rotation. The network has cleared out the Tuesday 9 p.m. ET time slot for "The Amazing Race 6," sending "Clubhouse" off to the weekend, effective immediately.
The latest "Amazing Race" will have a two-hour premiere on Tuesday, Nov. 16. "Clubhouse" will make its Saturday 8 p.m. premiere on Nov. 6.
"Clubhouse" hasn't been a total failure, averaging 9.18 million viewers for its first two episodes, but the show has lost around five million viewers per week from its lead-in "NCIS," which has become a clear hit in its second season. In addition, CBS' decision to add "Clubhouse" and drop reliable veteran "The Guardian" was done in the hopes of attracting younger viewers, but the baseball series has failed to deliver in the 18-49 demographic.
In its past two weeks, the fictional diamond action of "Clubhouse" has been smacked around by FOX's coverage of real playoff baseball. "Clubhouse" will now become the only scripted series to air new Saturday episodes on any network.
"Clubhouse" moves into the time slot originally set aside for the latest installment of "Amazing Race." CBS scheduled the Jerry Bruckheimer reality show for Saturdays before "Amazing Race 5" developed into a summer ratings hit for the network, following four seasons of solid, but unremarkable ratings.
In addition to averaging 10.73 million viewers per week during the summer, making it the season's most watched reality offering, "Amazing Race" won its second consecutive Emmy for outstanding reality program.
Mr. Television 10-20-2004, 05:35 PM This is probably the beginning oof the end for Clubhouse. Its to bad too because its a good show. I was also a fan of the Guardian and was upset when CBS canceled it. Maybe that'll teach a network not to cancel a hit series in the hopes it can do better in a given timeslot. It should have been at least brought back as a backup series.
CliffClavin 10-21-2004, 11:54 AM Damn that F'n Amazing Race :mad:
Chelsea 10-22-2004, 12:13 AM Think about something though: It'll be the ONLY Original Programming on Saturday Nights. The ONLY (New) Fish in town.
While obviously a Saturday night move will take down numbers somewhat, it's numbers relative to timeslot SHOULD be outstanding...And if it does even remotely well, it just might inspire CBS and/or to fill the rest of Saturday with original programming.
CliffClavin 10-22-2004, 10:27 AM EDIT :crazy:
Chelsea 10-22-2004, 11:10 AM Not movie, move (Though movies never exactly tear up ratings anyway)
Saturday nights have been ratings anathema since the Early 1990s. Even top-rated shows like Desperate Housewives, in their Saturday night repurposings, can only pull around a 5.0-ish.
Brent88 10-22-2004, 03:32 PM Originally posted by CliffClavin
Damn that F'n Amazing Race :mad:
I love The Amazing Race. It pulled EXCELLENT ratings during the summer on Tuesdays at 10. Clubhouse is the problem.
db108108 10-22-2004, 10:13 PM Clubhouse sunk to 7.5 million viewers this Tuesday, down 45% in viewers and 33% in adults from "NCIS." Obviously, with those kind of numbers, the show doesn't deserve the timeslot.
dawsongirl 10-23-2004, 01:04 AM This sucks and CBS can burn in hell. Morons...it was up against BASEBALL. Give it a chance when baseball isn't on.
dawsongirl 10-23-2004, 01:05 AM Originally posted by Brent88
I love The Amazing Race. It pulled EXCELLENT ratings during the summer on Tuesdays at 10. Clubhouse is the problem.
Take into consideration that it has only aired in the summer though. It might not work as well in the fall/winter.
db108108 10-23-2004, 03:46 AM It may have been up against baseball, but that only marginally effect it's lead-in and lead-out. What's the excuse? The show got a great timeslot to premiere in- Sundays at 8pm, and it bombed. Now it's bombing on Tuesdays. It lost 45% of its lead-in. No other network would accept this. With the surge in ratings for NCIS, why should CBS wait around to see if the show might pick up some steam, which isn't likely when ratings are already so low? Better to give another show a chance- "TAR" is likely to draw in the 4-5 range in adults, double what "Clubhouse" is averaging.
And with the widespread hype that TAR got leading into its finale, and the hype that it will get leading into its premiere, I wouldn't be surprized if it eclipses the 13 million it drew for its finale. Keep in mind- the 9pm timeslot is pretty much wide open.
Brent88 10-23-2004, 11:39 AM Originally posted by dawsongirl
This sucks and CBS can burn in hell. Morons...it was up against BASEBALL. Give it a chance when baseball isn't on.
Why are other shows that are going up against baseball doing very well? NCIS, Survivor, The Apprentice and countless others. What about Desperate Housewives? It's not baseball, it's that people aren't watching.
Oh and Summers typically have lower viewership anyway. It may not do as well, but when Clubhouse is doing even worse, why not give it a chance? If it doesn't work, move it to another slot. It's not that bad.
db108108 10-23-2004, 06:40 PM You're thinking of Complete Savages with Mel, not Clubhouse.
spunkygirl 10-23-2004, 07:06 PM Originally posted by Riff
"Clubhouse" should have never made it past the pilot stage. It was obviously only picked up because Mel Gibson is an exec producer and "Passion of the Christ" made a gabillion dollars at the box office. And so they cancelled "The Guardian," thinking they were going to get better demos, and this is what they got. After seeing the pilot, I knew it was gonna be one of those shows that airs 4 or 5 times before it (excuse the pun) strikes out.
It just baffles me that CBS can finally take the 18-49 crown in a year when everything they've done has been dumb. They don't even have this week's "CSI: NY" episode posted on their website. The only new hit they have (maybe -- who knows if they accidentally killed it), and they don't know what episode they're airing??
Mel is not the producer of Clubhouse, he's the producer of Complete Savages.
Besides, all shows deserve a chance to succeed
barwars 10-23-2004, 08:53 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Besides, all shows deserve a chance to succeed
That's true, but only to a certain extent.
From my understanding, Clubhouse isn't a big hit with critics.
If a show fails to find an audience and doesn't impress critics, its time to let it go.
spunkygirl 10-23-2004, 09:01 PM Originally posted by barwars
That's true, but only to a certain extent.
From my understanding, Clubhouse isn't a big hit with critics.
If a show fails to find an audience and doesn't impress critics, its time to let it go.
Critics what do they know? Not much IMO ;) I never listen to critics, like I'm gonna let them dictate to me on what to watch or not to watch :p
Hmmm if that's true we probably wouldn't have Cheers or Seinfeld, etc. :)
barwars 10-23-2004, 09:03 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Critics what do they know? Not much IMO ;) I never listen to critics, like I'm gonna let them dictate to me on what to watch or not to watch :p
Hmmm if that's true we probably wouldn't have Cheers or Seinfeld, etc. :)
But thats the difference.
Critics adored Cheers and Seinfeld.
This is why Arrested Development got renewed, it will win more awards than FOX could dream of.
barwars 10-23-2004, 09:04 PM Not all shows can be kept on forever, shows need to fail for others to be a success.
Think about this.... if all of ABC's new shows from last year succeeded, we would have never seen Desperate Housewives.
spunkygirl 10-23-2004, 09:05 PM Originally posted by barwars
But thats the difference.
Critics adored Cheers and Seinfeld.
This is why Arrested Development got renewed, it will win more awards than FOX could dream of.
True, but AD isn't very highly rated, maybe they should cancel it? That's why I say critics don't mean anything IMO. Yes a show can be critically acclaimed and be low rated, or can be high rated with no critcal acclaim, don't both count?
barwars 10-23-2004, 09:08 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
True, but AD isn't very highly rated, maybe they should cancel it? That's why I say critics don't mean anything IMO. Yes a show can be critically acclaimed and be low rated, or can be high rated with no critcal acclaim, don't both count?
AD isn't high rated, but it gets more critical acclaim than any other show on TV. Critics LOVE Arrested Development.
Both do count.
But if a show has neither (Clubhouse), its just not working.
spunkygirl 10-23-2004, 09:10 PM Originally posted by barwars
AD isn't high rated, but it gets more critical acclaim than any other show on TV. Critics LOVE Arrested Development.
Both do count.
But if a show has neither (Clubhouse), its just not working.
That I agree with if it, has neither then yes :), but I do still think all shows deserve a chance, if not networks could be passing on a show that might be the next Cheers, Seinfeld, etc... :)
barwars 10-23-2004, 09:13 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
That I agree with if it, has neither then yes :), but I do still think all shows deserve a chance, if not networks could be passing on a show that might be the next Cheers, Seinfeld, etc... :)
What made Cheers and Seinfeld stick around though was that they were good.
Neither would have lasted if they got those ratings and the quality, of say, the monstrosity that is Listen Up.
spunkygirl 10-23-2004, 09:16 PM Originally posted by barwars
What made Cheers and Seinfeld stick around though was that they were good.
Neither would have lasted if they got those ratings and the quality, of say, the monstrosity that is Listen Up.
Very true :)
:lol: I have never heard of Listen Up
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