PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PENNNY!!!!!!!!!!


The only thing that i never liked about the Series

I don't remember a lot about the Penny episodes at all, since I can't see any of the reruns currently. Hopefully that will change if they release ALL the seasons on DVD. I do remember liking the 4 part episode where she first came on and was abused. That seemed like a fairly involving, well written 4 parter. Still not as good as the ones WITH James, though . . .

I really disliked the episodes with Carl, though. Seemed like those episodes were going NOWHERE.

With me, it's no secret what I dislike the most about "Good Times'': The Constant Moralizing.

It's one thing when the moral actually has something to do with the theme pf the show, but GT, more than any of Norman Lear's other series, absolutely wallowed in the crusading, often to the detriment of the series, as well as ofttimes straining credibility (if you're starving and about to be evicted, you're not going to be too particular when money drops out of the sky and right into your lap, right? Well, not as far as the Evans family is concerned, that's for sure!!)

People, I watch a situation comedy strictly for laughs, nothing else...I don't want to be bombarded every week with someone else's agenda on a weekly basis (..unless, of course, it's well-written...and "Good Times", for the most part, and especially after the third season, was most certainly NOT!)

When JJ had the audacity to show off his bare chest to the world...YUCK!

BOOKMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOKMAN!!!!!!!!!!


The only thing that i never liked about the Series

Keith.

Originally posted by mr roper
Keith.

Keith was the worst!

James left, Keith, and just about the whole last season. You could tell nobody wanted to be there anymore.

the fact that the family could never quite catch a break. they would get some great news about something (a new job, scholarship, contest, commercial) and then right before the commercial break, they get kicked down again.



where, please tell me, are the good times?

Keith and the way Willona just walks into their apartment. Friend or not, you knock first.

Keith's impersonations

Man, Keith had some horrible impersonations, didn't he?

The very sight of Keith!:rolleyes:

when thelma married keith.

Originally posted by nerrad
Keith and the way Willona just walks into their apartment. Friend or not, you knock first.

Either she had her own set of keys or they left the door open, neither of which makes any sense.

Originally posted by gidgetgrape
Keith's impersonations Especially when Keith was impersonating Bill Cosby; he was quite terrible, and it was not remotely funny...

"This meat is tougher than the Dallas defense". The absolute other thing, speaking of Keith, that I disliked about GT was Keith's injury. How in the world can a person destroy their knee, rupture ligaments, rupturing tendons, have a doctor tell you that you probably won't be able to play football again, by tripping over James Evans, Jr is a mystery in itself. :lol: :confused: :lol: :confused:

Originally posted by nerrad
"This meat is tougher than the Dallas defense". The absolute other thing, speaking of Keith, that I disliked about GT was Keith's injury. How in the world can a person destroy their knee, rupture ligaments, rupturing tendons, have a doctor tell you that you probably won't be able to play football again, by tripping over James Evans, Jr is a mystery in itself. :lol: :confused: :lol: :confused: :lol: For real!:lol:

keith was a *****, straight up. His attitude was poor, also.

Now I love Winona... and you'll probably hate me for saying this, but sometimes I felt her "rants" were a little too long and sometimes totally off topic... she'd just breeze in... do her thang and then go... This is only judged on Season 2 though (like when she did that radio dj impersonation).

Originally posted by robby76
Now I love Winona... and you'll probably hate me for saying this, but sometimes I felt her "rants" were a little too long and sometimes totally off topic... she'd just breeze in... do her thang and then go... This is only judged on Season 2 though (like when she did that radio dj impersonation).

I agree completely. The radio impersonation was too long and the church service she did when Florida was not able to get a job at her boutique. I'm sure there are more.

Ha ha, I was gonna add the Preaching one too! By the way TV Show Analyzer, I've just ordered Season 3 and I'm in love with Good Times all over again! Thanks for recommending Season 2 earlier.

Originally posted by robby76
Ha ha, I was gonna add the Preaching one too! By the way TV Show Analyzer, I've just ordered Season 3 and I'm in love with Good Times all over again! Thanks for recommending Season 2 earlier.

Yeah the show had a lot of energy in season 2

The fact that they waited until the last season to get out of the ghetto, through miraculous means.

Originally posted by hatwink
The fact that they waited until the last season to get out of the ghetto, through miraculous means.


Atleast they could have had the Evans Family move out the Projects. If not out the Ghetto, defintely a better place to love in the Ghetto.

Lack of continuity! The writers should've at least killed off Carl Dixon or something rather than go on as if he'd never existed.

Carls episodes were boring!

When James died, also when Flo went off and married Carl, We should have at least seen their wedding.

The comeback lines people used on that show.. I understand they may have been popular in the 70's but I find them so corny. It's also annoying when the audience goes wild when someone says something funny.

[QUOTE=GeorgiaboyJeff!]The comeback lines people used on that show.. I understand they may have been popular in the 70's but I find them so corny. It's also annoying when the audience goes wild when someone says something funny.[/QUOTE


I think the explosion of the crowd is what gave the show a lot of energy

PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PENNNY!!!!!!!!!!


The only thing that i never liked about the Series


Usually we agree but Penny is not who (or what) I disliked about the show.
As for what I disliked--don't get me started--its a long list. ( If anyone insists on my listing reasons I'll be happy to give them--but be warned--there are quite a few)

The comeback lines people used on that show.. I understand they may have been popular in the 70's but I find them so corny. It's also annoying when the audience goes wild when someone says something funny.
I just wish all the loud crowd noise was edited out of the DVDs!! I don't mind laughter or a laugh track, but the loud cheers and applause when someone enters a room gets really old REALLY fast. :mad:

I just wish all the loud crowd noise was edited out of the DVDs!! I don't mind laughter or a laugh track, but the loud cheers and applause when someone enters a room gets really old REALLY fast. :mad:

They sure do (and make me want to groan)

They sure do (and make me want to groan)
You mean you're not groaning already, Rich?? :lol:

I can't believe no one loves the FOOT STOMPING from the audience-lol

I can't believe no one loves the FOOT STOMPING from the audience-lol
I think you're the only one at SO who does, Sol. :lol:

I think you're the only one at SO who does, Sol. :lol:


Why don't you like the Foot stomping/loud cheer/laughter from the audience

Why don't you like the Foot stomping/loud cheer/laughter from the audience
I never said I don't like audience laughter - but I don't like it when the audience goes crazy with the cheering just because someone walks into the room, etc. Happy Days was definitely the worst offender in this category.

I never said I don't like audience laughter - but I don't like it when the audience goes crazy with the cheering just because someone walks into the room, etc. Happy Days was definitely the worst offender in this category.


What about when the crowd exploded from funny moments?

What about when the crowd exploded from funny moments?
I didn't mind that.

You mean you're not groaning already, Rich?? :lol:


What can I say, IMO Good Times is a misnomer. If it weren't for Willona, the only character I LOVED on the show, I never would have watched it. The Jeffersons it ain't!

With me, it's no secret what I dislike the most about "Good Times'': The Constant Moralizing.

It's one thing when the moral actually has something to do with the theme pf the show, but GT, more than any of Norman Lear's other series, absolutely wallowed in the crusading, often to the detriment of the series, as well as ofttimes straining credibility (if you're starving and about to be evicted, you're not going to be too particular when money drops out of the sky and right into your lap, right? Well, not as far as the Evans family is concerned, that's for sure!!)

People, I watch a situation comedy strictly for laughs, nothing else...I don't want to be bombarded every week with someone else's agenda on a weekly basis (..unless, of course, it's well-written...and "Good Times", for the most part, and especially after the third season, was most certainly NOT!)

Amen, Amen!!! That's what killed A Different World--being TOO DAMN PREACHY. The only show that can give a lesson and still keep the laughs to this day is Roc.

What about when the crowd exploded from funny moments?

I liked the audience from Good Times it was a natural audience. It makes the viewing experience much better. I have never been a fan of laugh tracks, especially during corny punchlines.

I always hated Thelma's bitchyness and whiny antics. It was cute for a minute but during the last couple years it was unnecessary. I also hated the goody too antics of Florida. It's so contridictory that she wants to be ms. morals but yet she has kids living in the projects. I always wished that someone would have told her that during the series.

I didnt like Keith( i wish James could have been there when he hit Thelma), jj and Thelma arguing towards the end of the show(they were too old for that) or that congressman or whoever he was

^ I think you mean Alderman Fred Davis - or Balderman Davis, as Willona called him. :lol:

DYN-O-MITE!!!!

It's cute the first 2 or 3 times - but then it's indescribably annyoing.

^ I think you mean Alderman Fred Davis - or Balderman Davis, as Willona called him. :lol:


Yeah that's him.:lol:

Keith.

Agreed. The character just never seemed to fit. And I used to cringe whenever he and Penny were exclusively in scenes together because I knew those dang Mae West and/or "my little chickadee" guy imitations were rapidly approaching.:) .

I wasn't lying. It's a long list.

1. Mrs. Bookman

2. The Life and times of Bookman ( an adopted cancer survivor, who goes back to school to get his diploma)

3. J.J.' s infactuation with "dynamite". Nobody found it odd that a kid is obsessed with blowing things up.
Dynamite Greeting Cards, Michaels and the Dynomites, Dynoman , Dynowoman.
He couldn't be more creative?? He was an artist for crying out loud!!

4. White JJ "The Ivory Prince"

I agree completely. The radio impersonation was too long and the church service she did when Florida was not able to get a job at her boutique. I'm sure there are more.
Willona the Preacher. :lol:

She did that too abt the hams after James died. And when she and Florida did that stupid thing (it was to really kill airtime) during the episode TOO OLD BLUES as they pretended to be rich ladies, talking and talking with Willona talking that nasal talk with those sunglasses on. This occurred right after Florida sent the kids to the store to buy chips. God I hate that scene. So stupid. There could have been a better way to kill airtime.

Willona the Preacher. :lol:

She did that too abt the hams after James died. And when she and Florida did that stupid thing (it was to really kill airtime) during the episode TOO OLD BLUES as they pretended to be rich ladies, talking and talking with Willona talking that nasal talk with those sunglasses on. This occurred right after Florida sent the kids to the store to buy chips. God I hate that scene. So stupid. There could have been a better way to kill airtime.



Just watch that ep yesterday and watching J.J and Thelma go to the store to buy chips would have been more entertaining-lol

Just watch that ep yesterday and watching J.J and Thelma go to the store to buy chips would have been more entertaining-lol
For real. Seeing them arguing on the way, stepping over Ned the Wino, etc. Something would have been better than that scene with Flo and Willona. :lol: They sure went to the store and got home fast too. :lol:

For real. Seeing them arguing on the way, stepping over Ned the Wino, etc. Something would have been better than that scene with Flo and Willona. :lol: They sure went to the store and got home fast too. :lol:


That was the most goofiest and pointless GT moment of the entire show

That was the most goofiest and pointless GT moment of the entire show
Ya think? I am sure we can think of a couple more if we really think abt it. :lol:

Ya think? I am sure we can think of a couple more if we really think abt it. :lol:


The show is a real treasure trove of cliches, tired story lines, misplaced casting, things being worked to death, etc.--maybe that's my weird fascination with it--it's such a concise vehicle for studying all that can be wrong (or weak) within a show. Look how many everyone's has come up with!

The show is a real treasure trove of cliches, tired story lines, misplaced casting, things being worked to death--maybe that's my weird fascination with it--it's such a concise vehicle for studying all that can be wrong (or weak) for a show. Look how many everyone's has come up with!
I love how you put that..."treasure trove"...:lol:

You are right Rich. We have had so many conversations here on the GT abt thee most miniscule things. :lol:

I love how you put that..."treasure trove"...:lol:

You are right Rich. We have had so many conversations here on the GT abt thee most miniscule things. :lol:

And it's interesting when you compare it to The Jeffersons, a show that was so cleverly done and strong in many ways.

And it's interesting when you compare it to The Jeffersons, a show that was so cleverly done and strong in many ways.
I can't even begin to think of any moment of the Jeffersons where a scene was a "waste" or was made simply to kill airtime.

I can't even begin to think of any moment of the Jeffersons where a scene was a "waste" or was made simply to kill airtime.


Absolutely. To know "The Jeffersons" is to love "The Jeffersons", IMHO.

And it's interesting when you compare it to The Jeffersons, a show that was so cleverly done and strong in many ways.


So many connections between the Jeffersons and Good Times

I can't even begin to think of any moment of the Jeffersons where a scene was a "waste" or was made simply to kill airtime.


The scene with Tom's Uncle Bertram and Mother Jefferson getting to know each other-lol

really? I thought it was kind of cute the way he was buttering her up (and you knew she was just loving it). But we all have our own takes.

really? I thought it was kind of cute the way he was buttering her up (and you knew she was just loving it). But we all have our own takes.


I started doing something else during that scene

I started doing something else during that scene

Great Weezie picture King!!!! :thumbsup:

Great Weezie picture King!!!! :thumbsup:


Thanks Rich

was it just me or did it seem like the actor who played james yelled when he talked? whenever good times comes on, i have to turn down the volume on the tv. :lol:

I really didn't like how they always got into everyone's business, especially Florida and Willona. Even Micheal, Thelma, and later on, Keith, got into other people's business.

I also hated how everyone except for J.J and Penny, got on their soapboxes, even during the little things.

When James or Florida were absent from the show. When they were there, it was dynomite!

There were a lot of little things that I hated about Good Times. One, if James was in the Army why couldn't he get a VA loan and buy a house?

I hated that Alderman Davis and Sweet Daddy would fish around the Evans' house and hassle them but when James was alive, it was a different story.

I hated that Alderman Davis and Sweet Daddy would fish around the Evans' house and hassle them but when James was alive, it was a different story.
James liked Alderman Davis. And why did Alderman Davis go and bug them abt voting for him? As if the Evans' vote meant more than anyone else's? :lol: Did they have that much pull? :crazy:

Were they really the influential family in the projects? Have you noticed how poorer families thought that their house was the bomb? LOL.

Were they really the influential family in the projects? Have you noticed how poorer families thought that their house was the bomb? LOL.
:rofl: :brent

Yeah, they thought the apartment was so cool...they didn't look at the kitchen though, did they? :crazy:

Well, they were the George and Weezy of the ghetto.

"You can get a great apartment like this too if you:

Spend years in the army and don't inquire about military base housing".

:rofl:

Someone else had posted abt James being in the Army and obviously he left the Army in good standing, what benefits would he have been entitled to? James was in the Korean War. Does it matter how long you have been out of the military?

:rofl:

Someone else had posted abt James being in the Army and obviously he left the Army in good standing, what benefits would he have been entitled to? James was in the Korean War. Does it matter how long you have been out of the military?


I thought that you're pretty much on your own Up until you hit like 65 then you start to get your pension every month plus your SSI (I believe not sure). That's why there are a lot of old ex military people now who are on welfare. Now if you were hurt while in duty and you leave the army then you’ll get benefits.

What I don't understand is, if James went into the army, why didn't get have his GED then? That's one of the main reasons why people sign up, for the free education.

:rofl: :brent

Yeah, they thought the apartment was so cool...they didn't look at the kitchen though, did they? :crazy:



I thought only EDDIE THE BULLY was impressed with the Evans Apartment. Who else was impressed?

Weren't those girls who robbed the Evans' of their lotto money impressed too?

Weren't those girls who robbed the Evans' of their lotto money impressed too?



Oh yeah I forgot about them-lol

That old man who was dying seemed to like the place as well.

That old man who was dying seemed to like the place as well.


Well that means all those people should have LOVED willona's apartment

Well that means all those people should have LOVED willona's apartment
:lol: They would have for sure. She had a damn fine place. But everyone seemed to drop in on the Evans', including Willona.

Keith.


I didn't like Keith either.. What a waste...

1.) Killing off James (John Amos/Esther Rolle together made the show...it was never the same after he was gone)

2.) The Bookman jokes. I know he wasn't always the greatest guy...but all their fat jokes about him just got old.

3.) Keith's impressions. I don't mind the character, but only when he uses his real voice!

Keith was the worst!
Yes, he was! :X)

I didn't mind Penny most of the time, but I cringe when she does Mae West. Yuck! :p

1.) Killing off James (John Amos/Esther Rolle together made the show...it was never the same after he was gone)

2.) The Bookman jokes. I know he wasn't always the greatest guy...but all their fat jokes about him just got old.

3.) Keith's impressions. I don't mind the character, but only when he uses his real voice!


Keith did a good impression of Bill Cosby-lol

Keith is the equalivent of spending a day at the dentist office with your most annoying family member, who won't shut up...

Keith was the death of the show. Esther Rolle should have never left...

Agreed! Her acting was not that good either

Kieth didnt fit in, also, the absense of the father and mother just made it seem strange; the warmth of family just died, and so did the show.

Try watching Sienfield or Friends without the "Canned Laughs" those shows would not have lasted a season.

One thing about "Good Times",was that in the first two seasons(especially season one)James acted like he was proud to have him as his son.But come third season,when Jimmie Walker as J.J.. kind of overshadowed the rest of the cast-in the opening of season 3 it says starring Esther Rolle,John Amos with Ralph Carter,Bernadette Stanis AND Jimmie Walker as J.J.,when before it said Starring Esthe Rolle,John Amos,with Ralph Carter,Bernadette Stanis ,Jimmie Walker.Also,in that season,when Thelma and J.J.argued,James always sided with Thelma,and belittled J.J.a lot-That got old.I don't recall any episode where James sided with J.J.when J.J. and Thelma argued.