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TVFactFan
09-02-2004, 06:34 PM
Jeffersons,


is What's Happening also more appealing than the Jeffersons if both DVD's were on the same shelf?

barwars
09-02-2004, 07:50 PM
Its not necessarily true that The Jeffersons is less appealing than S&S and GT, Columbia Tristar never mentioned anything about sales being bad for it. (but they most likely were)

spunkygirl
09-03-2004, 10:36 AM
I agree with what barwars said, it was probably the sales were low :(

TVFactFan
09-03-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Angela Micelli
I agree with what barwars said, it was probably the sales were low :(


Yeah i came to the conclusion that GT and S&S appeal to a larger amount of TV fans than the Jeffersons because the Jeffrsons DVD probably had LOW SALES. It's obvious thAt GT and S&S didn't have low sales because they both had 2 seasons released on DVD in the same year. TJ last release was June-2003

spunkygirl
09-03-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Yeah i came to the conclusion that GT and S&S appeal to a larger amount of TV fans than the Jeffersons because the Jeffrsons DVD probably had LOW SALES. It's obvious thAt GT and S&S didn't have low sales because they both had 2 seasons released on DVD in the same year. TJ last release was June-2003

Yeah that has to be it. S&S and GT aren't bad shows, but they must appeal to a broader audience.

I dunno, maybe now that Isabel has passed they'll finish releasing the series, I think there'd be a higher interest in the series than before since she's passed

barwars
09-03-2004, 04:37 PM
Which is weird, because The Jeffersons was the most successful during its original run.

I think S&S and GT sold more because TJ had been in syndication forever, while S&S just came back recently, and GT has really had too much exposure.

spunkygirl
09-03-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Which is weird, because The Jeffersons was the most successful during its original run.

I think S&S and GT sold more because TJ had been in syndication forever, while S&S just came back recently, and GT has really had too much exposure.

That's a possibility too, some shows can do great in syndication and sell poorly on DVD. It makes me wonder how well Everybody Loves Raymond will sell, since I can't seem to turn a channel without seeing that show.

Mad About You from what I've read has done poorly in syndication, and I think that affected the DVD sales as well.

TVFactFan
09-03-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Which is weird, because The Jeffersons was the most successful during its original run.

I think S&S and GT sold more because TJ had been in syndication forever, while S&S just came back recently, and GT has really had too much exposure.


The Jeffersons only did better than S&S in the 76-77 season. And it just barely finished above S&S

1976-77 TV season

TJ-#24
S&S-#27

barwars
09-03-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
The Jeffersons only did better than S&S in the 76-77 season. And it just barely finished above S&S

1976-77 TV season

TJ-#24
S&S-#27

The Jeffersons -- 11 Seasons
Sanford & Son -- 6 Seasons

And, I think TJ had more awards too, because well, it was a better show.

TVFactFan
09-03-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by barwars
The Jeffersons -- 11 Seasons
Sanford & Son -- 6 Seasons

And, I think TJ had more awards too, because well, it was a better show.


Actually S&S is a little better than TJ but i never thought GT was.

barwars
09-03-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Actually S&S is a little better than TJ but i never thought GT was.

S&S gets repetitive, whereas I could watch TJ for hours and hours without getting sick of it.

As for GT, its tied with S&S.
I laugh more at GT, but I laugh harder at S&S, if that makes any sense.

barwars
09-03-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Which is weird, because The Jeffersons was the most successful during its original run.

I think S&S and GT sold more because TJ had been in syndication forever, while S&S just came back recently, and GT has really had too much exposure.

I meant to say "GT hasn't really had too much exposure"

spunkygirl
09-03-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by barwars
S&S gets repetitive, whereas I could watch TJ for hours and hours without getting sick of it.

As for GT, its tied with S&S.
I laugh more at GT, but I laugh harder at S&S, if that makes any sense.

:nod: S&S I can stand in moderation, I've seen GT once or twice, and never cared much for it, so IMO TJ is the best :D

barwars
09-05-2004, 12:39 PM
Ahh, rest assured The Jeffersons fans.... Solomon brings news that Season 3 may be released in early 2005, just in time for the 30th Anniversary. That's the Seasons 3-11 on DVD anniversary, correct??

TVFactFan
09-05-2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Ahh, rest assured The Jeffersons fans.... Solomon brings news that Season 3 may be released in early 2005, just in time for the 30th Anniversary. That's the Seasons 3-11 on DVD anniversary, correct??

I was saying the 30th anniversary of the Show-mid jan 2005

Dean Winchester
09-05-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
The Jeffersons only did better than S&S in the 76-77 season. And it just barely finished above S&S

1976-77 TV season

TJ-#24
S&S-#27

yea, but take into consideration The Jeffersons ran 11 seasons compared to 6.

The Jeffersons was hitting it's peak around 1980-1982, in it's 7th and 8th seasons.... S&S was dead by it's 7th season.

I think the reason S&S sells more than Jeffersons is because TV Land just got S&S not too long ago, and before that, it hadn't been seen in years. The Jeffersons OTOH were a regular syndication and rerun staple for 20 years. It's a show many people feel they've already seen the episodes enough time, like when Cosby Show comes out on DVD, I think a lot of potential sales will have been lost because of people who have seen the episodes more than enough on TBS and N@N in the past 5 years.

Plus, The Jeffersons is an "early tv-dvd release", meaning a lot of places don't even carry them anymore. I think if Columbia went ahead and released season 3, and then came up with a "buy all 3, save $10" deal for a place like Best Buy, I think sales would go up considerably and we'd see a seasons 4-11.

TVFactFan
09-05-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
yea, but take into consideration The Jeffersons ran 11 seasons compared to 6.

The Jeffersons was hitting it's peak around 1980-1982, in it's 7th and 8th seasons.... S&S was dead by it's 7th season.

I think the reason S&S sells more than Jeffersons is because TV Land just got S&S not too long ago, and before that, it hadn't been seen in years. The Jeffersons OTOH were a regular syndication and rerun staple for 20 years. It's a show many people feel they've already seen the episodes enough time, like when Cosby Show comes out on DVD, I think a lot of potential sales will have been lost because of people who have seen the episodes more than enough on TBS and N@N in the past 5 years.

Plus, The Jeffersons is an "early tv-dvd release", meaning a lot of places don't even carry them anymore. I think if Columbia went ahead and released season 3, and then came up with a "buy all 3, save $10" deal for a place like Best Buy, I think sales would go up considerably and we'd see a seasons 4-11.



I think S&S is just a funnier show. S&S was above GT and TJ when it came to entertaiment. But i did think TJ would be a little more appealing to TV FANS than GT

spunkygirl
09-05-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Ahh, rest assured The Jeffersons fans.... Solomon brings news that Season 3 may be released in early 2005, just in time for the 30th Anniversary. That's the Seasons 3-11 on DVD anniversary, correct??

:woohoo: Maybe that's what they were waiting on for the release to coincide with the anniversary :D

spunkygirl
09-05-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
yea, but take into consideration The Jeffersons ran 11 seasons compared to 6.

The Jeffersons was hitting it's peak around 1980-1982, in it's 7th and 8th seasons.... S&S was dead by it's 7th season.

I think the reason S&S sells more than Jeffersons is because TV Land just got S&S not too long ago, and before that, it hadn't been seen in years. The Jeffersons OTOH were a regular syndication and rerun staple for 20 years. It's a show many people feel they've already seen the episodes enough time, like when Cosby Show comes out on DVD, I think a lot of
potential sales will have been lost because of people who have seen the episodes more than enough on TBS and N@N in the past 5 years.

Plus, The Jeffersons is an "early tv-dvd release", meaning a lot of places don't even carry them anymore. I think if Columbia went ahead and released season 3, and then came up with a "buy all 3, save $10" deal for a place like Best Buy, I think sales would go up considerably and we'd see a seasons 4-11.

I agree, I have always felt that a show that is shown on two or networks a day that it can hurt DVD Sales, it makes me wonder how Everybody Loves Raymond will sell.

I have gone to several stores I can't find the first two seasons of the Jeffersons anywhere :(

barwars
09-05-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Angela Micelli
:woohoo: Maybe that's what they were waiting on for the release to coincide with the anniversary :D

I never knew you were a fan of The Jeffersons.... very cool.

spunkygirl
09-05-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by barwars
I never knew you were a fan of The Jeffersons.... very cool.

Yeah I have always liked the Jeffersons, I have been a Sherman Hemsley fan for as long as I can remember :D

barwars
09-05-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Yeah I have always liked the Jeffersons, I have been a Sherman Hemsley fan for as long as I can remember :D

awesome. I hope you find the DVDs soon!

Classic TV Fanatic
09-05-2004, 08:22 PM
I love The Jeffersons and it's my favorite Norman Lear show tied with Sanford and Son. I hope whoever owns this series puts the rest of the seasons out on DVD. As a fan, I would definitely buy them.

TVFactFan
09-05-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Angela Micelli
I agree, I have always felt that a show that is shown on two or networks a day that it can hurt DVD Sales, it makes me wonder how Everybody Loves Raymond will sell.

I have gone to several stores I can't find the first two seasons of the Jeffersons anywhere :(



They have seasons 1 and 2 of the Jeffersons on EBay and Amazon.com I currently bidding on season 1 of the Jeffersons.

Classic TV Fanatic
09-08-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
yea, but take into consideration The Jeffersons ran 11 seasons compared to 6.

The Jeffersons was hitting it's peak around 1980-1982, in it's 7th and 8th seasons.... S&S was dead by it's 7th season.

I think the reason S&S sells,it hadn't been seen in years. The Jeffersons OTOH were a regular syndication and rerun staple for 20 years. It's a show many people feel they've already seen the episodes enough time,

I would have to disagree. If I recall right, TBS played Sanford and Son in the evening for a large number of years, The Jeffersons did not. Since TBS was a national tv station like it is today, such classics shows as Sanford and Son were available to see in reruns. Moreover, I also recall that TBS played The Jeffersons in the wee hours of the morning for most of the time. Another thing is ... The Jeffersons has a larger amount of episodes than Sanford and Son and thus it's more likely that ALL of the S&S were seen PLENTY of times by the viewer. Anways, that's my point of view.

TVFactFan
09-08-2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Classic TV Fanatic
I would have to disagree. If I recall right, TBS played Sanford and Son in the evening for a large number of years, The Jeffersons did not. Since TBS was a national tv station like it is today, such classics shows as Sanford and Son were available to see in reruns. Moreover, I also recall that TBS played The Jeffersons in the wee hours of the morning for most of the time. Another thing is ... The Jeffersons has a larger amount of episodes than Sanford and Son and thus it's more likely that ALL of the S&S were seen PLENTY of times by the viewer. Anways, that's my point of view.


I guess more people just think Fred Sanford is funnier than George Jefferson.

Dean Winchester
09-08-2004, 11:59 PM
I don't see why Columbia doesn't just follow a pattern and release each season around the same time as S&S. Sanford and Jeffersons season 1 both came out the same day, yet S&S is up to season 5 and Jeffersons is still stuck at season 2. I wonder if the morons at Columbia remember they still have Jeffersons.

Classic TV Fanatic
09-09-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I don't see why Columbia doesn't just follow a pattern and release each season around the same time as S&S. Sanford and Jeffersons season 1 both came out the same day, yet S&S is up to season 5 and Jeffersons is still stuck at season 2. I wonder if the morons at Columbia remember they still have Jeffersons.

Maybe they want to get one show done with (Sanford and Son) and finish the next one later (The Jeffersons). That could be a possibility ...

barwars
09-09-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Classic TV Fanatic
Maybe they want to get one show done with (Sanford and Son) and finish the next one later (The Jeffersons). That could be a possibility ...

Solomon emailed Columbia Tristar and they wrote back that Season 3 of The Jeffersons may be coming early 2005.
So, I think you have the exact idea that CT has in mind.

Dean Winchester
09-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Classic TV Fanatic
Maybe they want to get one show done with (Sanford and Son) and finish the next one later (The Jeffersons). That could be a possibility ...

you'd figure the one with more seasons would be the higher priority. Waiting for the complete 11 season run of a series is more grueling than a 6 season show... and Columbia is not helping matters by waiting 18+ months per season. This is NOT The Simpsons where there's a valid excuse (commentaries being done during season hiatus)