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you know ive just read the whole fight thread, and its funny.
cause i think barwars complained that cliff clavin didnt list his source from where he got his Frasier factoid from.
but if you go back to the original post.....he did list the source.

so whats the problem??

:wave:

Originally posted by SitcomDude74
you know ive just read the whole fight thread, and its funny.
cause i think barwars complained that cliff clavin didnt list his source from where he got his Frasier factoid from.
but if you go back to the original post.....he did list the source.

so whats the problem??

If you read the tiny print below the post it says "Edited blah-blah-2004 at blah:blahPM"
He fixed it after I complained.

Originally posted by CliffClavin
barwars,
When did you tell me to stop sending you pm's ?

The beginning of July, because you were sending me PMs asking me questions like "so how was your big 4th of July party?".... when I never said anything about having and/or going to a 4th of july party.
Plus, the constant "where are you?" and "come to the survivor thread!" messages.
But its over.... forget it.

ok.

if we have to include sources when we post, do we need to have an index and a bibliography? just wondering, dont want to step on any toes.

Originally posted by SitcomDude74
ok.

if we have to include sources when we post, do we need to have an index and a bibliography? just wondering, dont want to step on any toes.

You dont have to for everything, its just CliffClavin was coming off as if he suddenly realized it.

Originally posted by SitcomDude74
ok.

if we have to include sources when we post, do we need to have an index and a bibliography? just wondering, dont want to step on any toes.

It becomes a problem when you copy and paste somebody else's fanfiction or post a word-for-word article from TV Tome claiming it's your own. I think Cliff now understands why posting sources are important. Right, Cliff?

Right,Chambers.:)

thats all well and good.

but i must point something out.

The Cheers episode guide thats on this message board and was posted by DianeChambers87......thats taken directly, verbatim, from the book "Classic Sitcoms" by Vince Waldron. Thats about 80 pages taken directly from a published book. I didn't notice any source lisitng at all for that. And im not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to have that there. If you are going to complain about not giving credit to TVTome for a little factoid, how do you feel about 80 pages from a mass produced book?

SitcomDude please don't start up a fight, this was between barwars and Cliff Clavin and was quashed so just end it.

Originally posted by SitcomDude74
thats all well and good.

but i must point something out.

The Cheers episode guide thats on this message board and was posted by DianeChambers87......thats taken directly, verbatim, from the book "Classic Sitcoms" by Vince Waldron. Thats about 80 pages taken directly from a published book. I didn't notice any source lisitng at all for that. And im not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to have that there. If you are going to complain about not giving credit to TVTome for a little factoid, how do you feel about 80 pages from a mass produced book?

I didn't notice that - I joined right about when she left the boards. I have a TV Tome guide in the Frasier board too and I cited the source.

But erm I'm not here to pick on Cliff. And I don't think this argument is going anywhere. But Brian should add the source for the Episode guide.

I'm not starting a fight.
I'm just curious actually. I've noticed that Episode Guide before and im actually surprised that it's there. You guys could really get in trouble. Has anyone ever said anything about this before??

I just stopped it.

To be honest, I never bothered to even check that episode guide before. Are you sure of the source?

I'm absolutely sure.
I'm holding the book right now.
"Classic Sitcoms" by Vince Waldron published by Silman-James Press in 1997 (2nd edition-Revised and Expanded).

It's actually a great book, that's not my complaint. But thats the entire "Cheers" chapter you got word-for-word on your message board here.

And as it says under the copyright in the book:
"All rights reserved. No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner whatsoever without written permission from the publisher,except in the case of brief quotations embodied in certain articles and reviews."


Could be trouble.

Yup - it's Classic Sitcoms.

http://classicsitcoms.com/shows/cheers1.html

That's a bad job by you guys.
Bad job.

The thread was locked, so I never cared enough to notice.

well if you guys are serious about naming sources and all that you should somehow include it on their or remove it all together.

Originally posted by barwars
The thread was locked, so I never cared enough to respond.

Actually, if nobody reads them anyway, episode guides are kind of a waste of space. It's much easier to go online than to refer to these.
barwars - should I delete the one I put up in the [i]Frasier[/i ] board? I know I've never used it.

Originally posted by Chambers
Actually, if nobody reads them anyway, episode guides are kind of a waste of space. It's much easier to go online than to refer to these.
barwars - should I delete the one I put up in the [i]Frasier[/i ] board? I know I've never used it.


Good idea.
Because most the time they get updated anyways.

As for the Cheers guide.... scrap that too.

:nod:

Yeah just go to tvtome.com & imdb.com I go to those sites all of the time.;)

I agree.
TVTome is a great sight.
I often refer to their episode guides.

the thread cannot be completely deleted....All I can do is unstick it and credit the source.

To keep the other thread on topic, I split the thread into two.