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ILOVETV86 08-20-2004, 08:58 PM I noticed that today's tv shows arent as down to earth as they used to be. Now a days, they use only sexy-type actors and actresses (most of the time). Some shows dont do down to earth topics. ANybody else think the same or different as me?
Brian 08-20-2004, 09:01 PM I think most of today's sitcoms are not as good as the sitcoms from ten to fifty years ago. Nowadays the prime time line-ups are too rich in reality TV shows. The dramas have been excellent the past few years, though, and keep getting better. There's a lot of them I'm looking forward to this season.
I think today's sitcoms are very true to life.
I spend my day surrounded by young and thin hot people.
Don't you?
;)
ILOVETV86 08-20-2004, 09:06 PM lol................very funny :)
dawsongirl 08-21-2004, 02:53 AM It looks like writers have run out of good ideas and are now using all the ideas writers in the 50s-80s threw away. Depressing.
barwars 08-21-2004, 10:15 AM Arrested
Development.
'nuff said.
Petrie Malone 08-21-2004, 10:43 AM Originally posted by dawsongirl
It looks like writers have run out of good ideas and are now using all the ideas writers in the 50s-80s threw away. Depressing.
TV just needs better writers, they'll come... eventually.
barwars 08-21-2004, 10:56 AM Current Sitcoms I Like:
Arrested Development
Curb Your Enthusiasm
The Simpsons
Scrubs
The Drew Carey Show
8 Simple Rules
According To Jim
My Wife and Kids
George Lopez
Less Than Perfect
The King of Queens
Two and a Half Men
The Bernie Mac Show
South Park
But there only a select few that I'd put up as being "good shows". (Arrested Development, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Simpsons, and Scrubs) I enjoy the others, but they aren't anything that would be Emmy-worthy.
Other Current Shows I Like:
Saturday Night Live
Last Comic Standing
Reno 911!
Chappelle's Show
Late Night with Conan O'Brien
The Late Show with Dave Letterman
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn
Crossballs
Survivor (not as much anymore)
The Amazing Race (not as much anymore)
Crank Yankers (not as much anymore)
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 01:38 PM Originally posted by ILOVETV86
I noticed that today's tv shows arent as down to earth as they used to be. Now a days, they use only sexy-type actors and actresses (most of the time).
name me one actor on Everybody Loves Raymond with maybe the exception of Patricia Heaton (and I guess Doris Roberts isn't so unattractive for the geriatric crowd) who are considered sexy?
Petrie Malone 08-21-2004, 01:53 PM TV has ALWAYS had attractive people on it since the '50's (Lucy and Desi), Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore in the '60's, Mary again in the '70's, and so on...
I think in today's world, people are placing more and more of an emphasis on sex appeal, and sadly, less and less of an emphasis on talent. I read a great article around the time of the Friends finale this past May talking about the negatives Friends has brought to TV. One of the top items on that list was "Good Looking People are Good at Comedy." They proceeded to mention Lucille Ball, Dick Van Dyke, Mary Tyler Moore, and Bill Cosby were all great comedians and attractive people, but you don't always have to be good looking to be funny. Maybe the TV industry will someday understand that!
barwars 08-21-2004, 01:58 PM The now cherished "fat gut/hot wife" sitcom formula prooves that.
I dont find the wife funny on any of those shows.
Whereas on the few that I like, the husband gets all the laughs.
factsoflife 08-21-2004, 02:16 PM I wouldn't really consider The Drew Carey Show current, considering they are just buring off episodes that were filmed about a year or two ago. and the fact that its done after this summers run.
barwars 08-21-2004, 02:28 PM Well its currently airing new episodes, so I consider it current.
They were filmed during the 2003/2004 TV season by the way.
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 03:25 PM Originally posted by barwars
The now cherished "fat gut/hot wife" sitcom formula prooves that.
I dont find the wife funny on any of those shows.
Whereas on the few that I like, the husband gets all the laughs.
well, attractive and thin aren't necessarily hand in hand. Kevin James (well, the "thinner" KJ, not a few years ago but nowadays) and Mike O'Malley (even tho I think he could stand to lose a little weight, he wasn't a bad looking guy at all back in his Nickelodeon days when he was thinner) are two prime examples of the "fat guy/hot wife" tv caricatures who IMO are both reasonably attractive in a "big guy" sense. There are a lot of people out there who like "cubs". But with most of those shows, the wives are just there for sex appeal and the husbands are the ones who get the laughs.
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 03:28 PM current tv shows I watch:
South Park
Nip/Tuck
The Simpsons
Charmed
Arrested Development
Six Feet Under
barwars 08-21-2004, 04:30 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
well, attractive and thin aren't necessarily hand in hand. Kevin James (well, the "thinner" KJ, not a few years ago but nowadays) and Mike O'Malley (even tho I think he could stand to lose a little weight, he wasn't a bad looking guy at all back in his Nickelodeon days when he was thinner) are two prime examples of the "fat guy/hot wife" tv caricatures who IMO are both reasonably attractive in a "big guy" sense. There are a lot of people out there who like "cubs". But with most of those shows, the wives are just there for sex appeal and the husbands are the ones who get the laughs.
Sometimes its works great.... The King of Queens
Others.... Yes Dear.... no so much.
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 05:28 PM Originally posted by barwars
Sometimes its works great.... The King of Queens
Others.... Yes Dear.... no so much.
I think the problem with Yes Dear was crappy writing and scripts. All four actors are reasonably funny in other projects (basing Anthony Clark from Ellen and Boston Common, Mike O'Malley from Life With Roger, Jean Louisa Kelly from Mad About You and Liza Snyder from Jesse), but yet the show was bad. I think had the show had better writing but kept the same cast, the show could've been comedic brilliance, especially considering some of the guest stars they've had.
barwars 08-21-2004, 05:35 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I think the problem with Yes Dear was crappy writing and scripts. All four actors are reasonably funny in other projects (basing Anthony Clark from Ellen and Boston Common, Mike O'Malley from Life With Roger, Jean Louisa Kelly from Mad About You and Liza Snyder from Jesse), but yet the show was bad. I think had the show had better writing but kept the same cast, the show could've been comedic brilliance, especially considering some of the guest stars they've had.
It was definately a case of good acting/bad writing.
Some of my favorite series suffer from this.
But, my top favorites of all time have great writing for the most part.
barwars 08-21-2004, 05:36 PM They did have a lot of good guest stars.
Vicki Lawrence is always good, and I really like Brian Doyle-Murray
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 05:41 PM Originally posted by barwars
It was definately a case of good acting/bad writing.
Some of my favorite series suffer from this.
But, my top favorites of all time have great writing for the most part.
what really sucked was that Life With Roger was cancelled after 20 episodes... and Mike received more laughs per episode than he got an entire season of Yes Dear. Boston Common was also a very funny show too that met an early unfair demise.
Both should've had their biggest success with those series, and not Yes Dear
barwars 08-21-2004, 05:43 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
what really sucked was that Life With Roger was cancelled after 20 episodes... and Mike received more laughs per episode than he got an entire season of Yes Dear. Boston Common was also a very funny show too that met an early unfair demise.
Both should've had their biggest success with those series, and not Yes Dear
20 episodes practically is a season :lol:, But thats besides the point.
Ive never seen other series, but Ive heard you specifically mention them both before.
If they ever find their way to DVD -- Id probably pick them up.
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 05:53 PM Originally posted by barwars
20 episodes practically is a season :lol:, But thats besides the point.
it's ratings were actually going up when WB axed it. But they pulled it because they were debuting Buffy The Vampire Slayer around that time and put that in it's timeslot. But you know, while Roger was a fun show (if it ever came out on DVD, I'd be one of the 5 people buying it), Buffy was the better series as a whole anyways, lol.
Dean Winchester 08-21-2004, 05:56 PM I am not a King Of The Hill fan either. I dunno why, I never could get into it.
I think part of it is resentment towards Mike Judge. When KOTH took off, he decided two tv shows at once was too much and he axed Beavis & Butt-Head. While B&B was moronic at it's best, it WAS funny as hell.
Funny thing few people point out is that Hank Hill IS Tom Anderson from B&B, but 20 years younger. The voice he gave for both characters was identical.
gOoSe 08-21-2004, 06:57 PM Originally posted by barwars
Arrested
Development.
'nuff said.
yeah i agree a great example of bad tv...;) :p (i had to say it lol) but to be serious B&B were never funny. so im not suprised KOTH isnt either.
Chambers 08-21-2004, 07:59 PM Originally posted by gOoSe
yeah i agree a great example of bad tv...;) :p (i had to say it lol)
What don't you like about it...or were you just joking? Just curious.
Mr. Monitor 08-21-2004, 08:21 PM The problem with todays comedies is that they're just remakes of other TV shows. The jokes are stale and the situations have been done to death and are unconvincing.
But as someone stated, they're are a couple of good ones still out there.
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