Today I was talking to her about Evanescence and she said I can not go to any of their performances until i'm 18 because she's concerned about the "Weird goth people":rolleyes: who go to them. Plus she's trying to turn me into a prep and she told me if I say the word goth in her presence she'll take away the computer. it's almost if she'd stop loving me if I turned goth.

it really pisses me off how she constantly descriminates against gothic people. not like i am trying to be goth, but i feel like it is extremely mean to descriminate on goths just because of how they dress:mad: she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social:o

Thats pretty harsh. The thing about saying goth in front of her seems a little extreme

Alot of people discriminate against goths etc., most people are scared of them! That thing about people who are depressed are low life people, seems pretty unfair, alot of people can just become depressed.:(

I also hate when people think depression isn't a serious problem. The only people who understand depression are those with it. I had a friend who seemed to have depression and I was the only one who understood him.

I've never known anyone with depression but likes most people I'm down sometimes.

I re-read your first post about your mom not loving you if you turned goth, well maybe she just thinks goths are people who are depressed and cause trouble

Whats so great about that "Goth" think anyway?

she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social

Some people are depressed because they have difficulty socialising.

Over here, discrimination against goths is very bad. In the US, you probably have to go all out to be a goth- makeup and stuff, but here, wearing all black has you labelled a goth. I know some 'goths' and a few times people just shout 'goths' or tease them.

It's just a different lifestyle- everyone's minds work different- some people are happy as preps, some aren't. In fact- what you should do to piss of your mom is, if you have a rocky horror cast near you- start going to rocky horror in fishnets instead!

goths scare me. i walked in hot topic a few weeks ago and just got stared at...screw them, just because i dont look like a freak i cant go into their store? im better than that.. and wtf with all these parents being so neorotic....but i guess its better than having those bratty kids you see running around

Well, personally, I dont like the goths, and I wound never be goth, but saying the word "goth" around her and getting the comp. taking away is kind of ridicoulus :rolleyes:

Do Goths even shower?

Why does listening to Evanescence make you goth?

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
Why does listening to Evanescence make you goth?

I don't know. I have a red and black Evanescence picture on my desktop (it will be my next avatar) and I am into goth music. My mom is afraid I'll become goth and she is against them.

Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
goths scare me. i walked in hot topic a few weeks ago and just got stared at...screw them, just because i dont look like a freak i cant go into their store? im better than that.. and wtf with all these parents being so neorotic....but i guess its better than having those bratty kids you see running around

what you said lol

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
I don't know. I have a red and black Evanescence picture on my desktop (it will be my next avatar) and I am into goth music. My mom is afraid I'll become goth and she is against them.

Well maybe you should dress up as a goth to scare her

Sorry, but that's really stupid. Really.. really stupid.

Evanescence isn't even 'goth' music.

your mom needs a life.

Originally posted by Nirvana
your mom needs a life.

Sometimes I just want to tell her that but she would punish me in some way and I'd get in more trouble than I should :rolleyes: anyway i tell her she doesn't have to like them but she doesn't have to discriminate against them

I've tried telling her Evanescence wasn't bad but she thinks that the people who go to their concerts are "low life weird goths", the kind of people she doesn't want me around.

Originally posted by I am Him
Do Goths even shower?

Yes they do, just like everybody else.

You should prove to her some way that goths are nice people too (I don't know any but I'm sure they are nice):)

I've told her that different people have different taste and some like goth and some don't. I told her that if she was goth she wouldn't like being discriminated against but she doesn't listen.

But I guess thats the way some people think, and we can't do anything to change it

WHY are Evanescence GOTH? Better yet, what IS goth? Wearing weird make-up and being sad?

My mom says Evanescence is goth because of the way the band dresses and how their songs are dark and sad sounding. I'm just referring to them as goth because that's my mom's reason for not letting me go to their concerts. What's so wrong with goths?:o

Your mom sounds like one of those people that I'd be yelling obscenities at and telling them just how idiotic they REALLY are within 5 minutes of meeting her. Heck, I've already made a career out of criticising her, and I've never met the woman.

Let's just start from the top:


Today I was talking to her about Evanescence and she said I can not go to any of their performances until i'm 18 because she's concerned about the "Weird goth people" who go to them.


There are weird people at EVERY concert. It's a fact of life. I've yet to ever see a concert where there was absolutely NO weirdos.

Goths aren't weird, they just don't look at everything the same way as the average Joe and Jane, and that's what freaks the sh..er..crap out of people. So they're a little different, big da..ng deal. Everyone's got their own skew So what?

Plus she's trying to turn me into a prep

*shudders*

and she told me if I say the word goth in her presence she'll take away the computer.

Hilarious. I know you're serious, but that's the funniest thing I've read all day. I mean, good lord, punishing someone for saying a word that describes a subset of people? Is your mother THAT freakin...heck, I don't know WHAT the word is for THAT. Prudish, uptight, snobbish...I'm at a loss here. Thesaurus, anyone? That's just asinine.

it's almost if she'd stop loving me if I turned goth.

OK, as much as I've lambasted your mother, I'm going to defend her, in a way, for once. She's your MOTHER for crying out loud. As uptight and snobbish as she seems to be, she would NEVER stop loving you. She might do some freaky things to "try to turn you around" (shudders), but, deep down, she'd still love you. Besides, somehow I have trouble picturing you as a goth...

it really pisses me off how she constantly descriminates against gothic people.
It pisses me off, and I don't even know the woman. Your right, she SHOULDN'T discriminate against people just because of how they are. It's one of the most f'ing stupid things any human being can do, and people who practice such discrimination against people should be ashamed.

not like i am trying to be goth, but i feel like it is extremely mean to descriminate on goths just because of how they dress

Glad to see the apple fell far from the tree, and you appear to be FAR more tolerant. As I said, it's NOT right, but some people are snobby little asshols that can't tolerate anything that's even slightly different than themselves.

she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social

Speaking from quite a bit of experience, that's just plain ignorant. That...(breathes). Obviously, that woman has never suffered from it, or she WOULD know better. Dammit, don't you think I tried to be social. That I TRIED to be friendly? Hell yeah, but, even the slightest little thing would get me down into a funk I'd take a couple days to recover from. Still do occasionally. Depression can do that to ya. And low-life? That's the biggest steaming pile of horse-fed steaming bullshi I've ever read in my LIFE. Depression can strike ANYONE down. People have gone from perfectly happy and contented to suicidal in a matter of weeks and moths due to it. Life'll do that. I'd try to make a valid point, but that's just kinda hard at this point. I'm THAT mad.

EDIT: Of course, since no one reads my posts, what would it matter if I made a valid point or not...

None of this would have happened if you were still watching Leave it to Beaver.

I still do:)

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
Plus she's trying to turn me into a prep

There's nothing wrong with being a prep! :o



I've gotten into fights with friends over the whole goth thing. My friend Leah wants to be a goth and I invited her to this church thing and she told me that she couldn't go because she's goth and goths don't beleive in God. I told her that she was an idiot and she told me I was everything a prep stood for and I told her that I don't give **** if I am a prep.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being a prep either. One of my friends discriminates against preps and I told him that it is a way people choose to be. I am not a goth but I don't like discrimination. But I agree with my mom on the account that preps are people with a lot of class and it's good. But I tell her that isn't an excuse to discriminate against goths

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
I don't know. I have a red and black Evanescence picture on my desktop (it will be my next avatar) and I am into goth music. My mom is afraid I'll become goth and she is against them. First of all...Evanescence is not goth. If you tell someone that you listen to goth music because you like Evanscence, they will laugh in your face.

And you mother has never been to an Evanescence concert. There are no "goths" there. At least not in my experience. There's just normal people. Real "goths" generally hate Evanescence anyway.

And you're probably too young to go to an Evanescence concert, considering that you'd probably get trampled.

And jesus christ...you don't just all of a sudden turn into a prep or a goth. You don't wake up and say "Gee. I feel like being a goth today. Let me adorn myself in black makeup and worship satan." I dont get how people think they can choose what they want to be.

Honestly, don't people have better things to do with their time than figuring out what they "are??"

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
There's nothing wrong with being a prep! :o



There's a decent number of people who'd disagree with that. Of course, I personally don't care one way or the other, as both types have their drawbacks and superiorities...


...and I invited her to this church thing

Mistake 1. Trying to force religion upon someone looking into the Gothic is DEFINITELY not a smart thing to do.


and she told me that she couldn't go because she's goth and goths don't beleive in God.

Not quite. There's more than 1 flavor of Gothicism. A decent number satanic fringes, well..., but, there are other flavors of Goth that aren't nearly as Satanic, and actually still do follow God...they just prefer some to most of the elements of the Goth lifestyle.

I told her that she was an idiot

Mistake two. If you're trying to get someone to see your point of view, don't call 'em an idiot.

and she told me I was everything a prep stood for and I told her that I don't give **** if I am a prep.

Well, good for you for standing for what you believe. Granted, you've not only alienated your friend, but have probably increased the probability of them doing exactly what you didn't want, but...

Originally posted by AllIWantIsYourClutch
Honestly, don't people have better things to do with their time than figuring out what they "are??"

That's exactly my point. We're all people, why lay names on people?

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
That's exactly my point. We're all people, why lay names on people?

Because some people are nothing but ignorant, judgmental imbeciles who can't see that simple truth you mentioned.

Just wondering, whats a prep?

i have a friend who dresses like a goth and she isn't depressed she just likes that kind of style

Originally posted by RurryMicelli
Just wondering, whats a prep?

as I put it, someone with class.

Originally posted by Superstar
You should prove to her some way that goths are nice people too (I don't know any but I'm sure they are nice):)


they are.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
as I put it, someone with class. Well you must not know too many so-called preps then.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
them. Plus she's trying to turn me into a prep



i doubt that is true but that is really ****ty of her to not respect you for who you are.

she does, she is afraid I'll turn goth (I don't know why)

Originally posted by AllIWantIsYourClutch
Well you must not know too many so-called preps then.

I should change that to "as my mom puts it".

Originally posted by AllIWantIsYourClutch
Well you must not know too many so-called preps then.

What are they?

I don't know. All I know is that people at my school look down apon preps:rolleyes: we're all people, who cares if we are "goth or prep".

But aren't "Goths" just as stuck up as the people they accuse of being stuck up?

I mean really, would a goth hang out with someone that wasn't a Goth? I doubt it.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
I don't know. All I know is that people at my school look down apon preps:rolleyes: we're all people, who cares if we are "goth or prep".


it's like were all stereotyped. ohno:

Originally posted by I am Him
But aren't "Goths" just as stuck up as the people they accuse of being stuck up?

I mean really, would a goth hang out with someone that wasn't a Goth? I doubt it.

My friend turned goth because that's what his girlfriend was and she might not have accepted him if he wasn't. She should have appreciated him for who he was, not how he dressed.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
My friend turned goth because that's what his girlfriend was and she might not have accepted him if he wasn't. She should have appreciated him for who he was, not how he dressed.

*sigh*
That happens a lot. My friend wants to be "popular" and its starting to change him....

that is my problem with goths too however (and most discriminated minorities)- they're so pissed about being discriminated they too discriminate people. I mean, i'm not a prep, not a goth either (sort of a hybrid! I wear the brand name 'prep' clothes, yet I'm as depressing sometimes as a goth- well, that's how it works in the UK!)- but still, if you go to a club with goths you've to be 'all out goth' or they'll all discriminate. Same with other minorities

A month ago I read in the paper that the British government have been studying teenage behaviour and have come up with 9 groups of teenager. I read the basic summary of each group (cant remember what the names of each where) and laughed a lot at how off target they were!

Originally posted by Seth Thrasher
EDIT: Of course, since no one reads my posts, what would it matter if I made a valid point or not...

I read everyword and agree...

As long as it's not hurting anyone, ****ing be yourself. No one "goth" or whatever the hell is the same. Damn stereotypes...

Originally posted by RurryMicelli
Just wondering, whats a prep? I see it as someone who think they're better than everyone else...you can be a prep no matter what you wear. Clothes should have nothing to do with it. You wear all black and think you're better than everyone else? You're a prep. You shop at A&F and think you're better than everyone else? You're a prep. Doesn't matter.

Iam in fact is attracted to that goth look on girls its really damn sexy.

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
WHY are Evanescence GOTH? Better yet, what IS goth? Wearing weird make-up and being sad?
I believe that's emo, goths usuallly are more angry than sad

I'm sorry, but what does gloth mean?

And again, I'm sorry about that, Avril's Sk8er boi! :(

Originally posted by FullHouseFan8795
I'm sorry, but what does gloth mean?



Thats what they call those kids that make themselves up to look like Edward Scissor hands. Minus the scissor hands of course.

Originally posted by I am Him
Thats what they call those kids that make themselves up to look like Edward Scissor hands. Minus the scissor hands of course. :lol:

Originally posted by FullHouseFan8795
I'm sorry, but what does gloth mean?

And again, I'm sorry about that, Avril's Sk8er boi! :(
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.

2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god.

Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.

2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god.

Oh, that's sad.

goth/noun

A style of rock music characterized by an intense or droning blend of guitar, bass, and drums,often with mystical or apocalyptic lyrics. Also, a performer or follower of this music or the youth subculture which surrounds it, favouring a white-faced appearance with heavy black make-up and predominantly black clothing.A back-formation of Gothic; the style of dress and some elements of the lyrics evoke the style of gothic fantasy.GOTH grew out of the punk movement in the late seventies, with bands like Siouxsie and the Banshees making the transition from punk; by the mid-eighties it had attracted large numbers of British youngsters to its subculture. One of the most noticeable things about the GOTH look is its elaborate dress code, including black leather, crushed velvet, heavy silver jewellery, and pointed boots, combined with long hair, white-painted faces, and heavy black eyeliner. Although this gives a rather gloomy appearance, most GOTHS are actually peace-loving vegetarians who see themselves as the heirs to the hippie movement of the sixties. The leading performers of the music(also called GOTH ROCK OR GOTH PUNK) include SISTERS OF MERCY,whose leader Andrew Eldritch reportedly chose his pseudonym from the OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, where the adjective eldritch is defined as 'weird, ghostly, unnatural frightful, hideous'.A more middle class and tame version of the GOTH subculture, based on INDIE music and ethnic clothes, is dismissively known as DIDDY GOTH among young goths.


Gothic (from yahoo dictionary)

SYLLABICATION: Goth·ic
ADJECTIVE:1a. Of or relating to the Goths or their language. b. Germanic; Teutonic. 2. Of or relating to the Middle Ages; medieval. 3a. Of or relating to an architectural style prevalent in western Europe from the 12th through the 15th century and characterized by pointed arches, rib vaulting, and a developing emphasis on verticality and the impression of height. b. Of or relating to an architectural style derived from medieval Gothic. 4. Of or relating to painting, sculpture, or other art forms prevalent in northern Europe from the 12th through the 15th century. 5. often gothic Of or relating to a style of fiction that emphasizes the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate. 6. gothic Barbarous; crude.
NOUN: 1. The extinct East Germanic language of the Goths. 2. Gothic art or architecture. b. 4. A novel in a style emphasizing the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate.

WORD HISTORY: The combination Gothic romance represents a union of two of the major influences in the development of European culture, the Roman Empire and the Germanic tribes that invaded it. The Roman origins of romance must be sought in the etymology of that word, but we can see clearly that Gothic is related to the name Goth used for one of those invading Germanic tribes. The word Gothic, first recorded in 1611 in a reference to the language of the Goths, was extended in sense in several ways, meaning “Germanic,” “medieval, not classical,” “barbarous,” and also an architectural style that was not Greek or Roman. Horace Walpole applied the word Gothic to his novel The Castle of Otranto, a Gothic Story (1765) in the sense “medieval, not classical.” From this novel filled with scenes of terror and gloom in a medieval setting descended a literary genre still popular today; from its subtitle descended the name for it.

urbandictionary.com is a good place to get in touch with the real world.

haha this is so true.

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A form of dance that takes every ounce of your time and money. Causes extreme fusturation and anger. The evil slave driver, also called your ballet instructor, takes all of your money and still gives you crappy parts. High ammounts of stage make-up are required.

Guy: "Can you go to the movies on Friday?"
Girl: "No I'm so sorry I have ballet"
Guy: "Saturday?"
Girl: "No I'm so sorry I have ballet"
Guy: "Sunday?"
Girl: "No I'm so sorry I have ballet"

You get the point....

Maybe your mom will budge on this like she did with the Chat-Chat board issue...

I tried giving her the benefit of the doubt before, coining her as possibly just as an over-protective mom who doesn't want her kids to be exposed to off-color topics (because she didnt want you in this board). But NOW, I know she is most definitely a narrow-minded, out-of-touch mother. Too bad some of us can't set her straight on issues she is CLUELESS about. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
urbandictionary.com is a good place to get in touch with the real world.

Lol, I agree.

Instead of asking what this-and-that means, you folks might try looking in a dictionary; either the official one OR urban...depending on the word. Thank you, and ta-ta.

"Goths" are so phony. They make me laugh.

cool pic:lol:

and in response to Cashodeen: I agree. I know she is just thinking of me, but the way she does it comes across annoying and narrow-minded.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
WHY are Evanescence GOTH? Better yet, what IS goth? Wearing weird make-up and being sad?

I know some GOTH's and most are really nice, they just dress that way to get attention, and to stand out.

They aren't bad people, they aren't evil. Alot of people assume they are just because of the way they dress

That's the thing. My mom said when people dress goth they are ignored, unsocial people looking to stand out by looking weird.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
...she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social:o

No no no, she's wrong about that. Being more social does not bring long-term happiness. That being said, I disagree with her on that, and I agree with her on one thing; I don't like goths' attitude either. But not because of the way they dress or act. It's that, they are selfish people. I mean look, what's the whole reason they all admit they're goth? "I don't fit in with any groups, and people think I'm weird and hate me." "I, I'm, me". They are only thinking about themselves and how pathetic (they think) their lives are. If they were just more (not necessarily out-going) positive and have an attitude of a servant, I doubt they'd feel so insecure. Why should anyone have the attitude of a servant even to people who are rude to them or snub them? Responding to ill-doings against you with kindness is a sign of character. In my case, sometimes I am able to do it, sometimes I fail. No one can become perfect, but we should not allow that to discourage us; we should still try to serve other people.

*gets flamed*

Originally posted by ConservativeBalla
No no no, she's wrong about that. Being more social does not bring long-term happiness. That being said, I disagree with her on that, and I agree with her on one thing; I don't like goths' attitude either. But not because of the way they dress or act. It's that, they are selfish people. I mean look, what's the whole reason they all admit they're goth? "I don't fit in with any groups, and people think I'm weird and hate me." "I, I'm, me". They are only thinking about themselves and how pathetic (they think) their lives are. If they were just more (not necessarily out-going) positive and have an attitude of a servant, I doubt they'd feel so insecure. Why should anyone have the attitude of a servant even to people who are rude to them or snub them? Responding to ill-doings against you with kindness is a sign of character. In my case, sometimes I am able to do it, sometimes I fail. No one can become perfect, but we should not allow that to discourage us; we should still try to serve other people.

*gets flamed*

I agree with some parts of what you said (not the goths being selfish though), but still, they shouldn't be discriminated against.

That is such bull ****. Evanescence isn't even goth in the first place. Although they have depressing songs it doesn't make it all gothic and evil. Let alone she won't even allow you to say the word 'goth'? Good god.

I love Evanescence, as well as the Gothic lifestyle. I wouldn't necessarily call myself "a goth" even though everyone i know thinks i am. I hate it when people judge others who dress like that and think they're evil satan worshippers. They're normal people who have a different style and beliefs. My depression is severe, and it's what brought on me to be dressing and acting like this. I only wear black clothes, partly so i can just fade away and go unnoticed. I have Evanescence and Bauhaus lyrics on my wall to express how i feel, and although my dad hates what kind of styles and beliefs i'm into and he wishes i can be bright and cheery again, even an ******* like him can accept that this is the way i am.

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
she told me that she couldn't go because she's goth and goths don't beleive in God.
:rofl:

Originally posted by safety pin
That is such bull ****. Evanescence isn't even goth in the first place. Although they have depressing songs it doesn't make it all gothic and evil. Let alone she won't even allow you to say the word 'goth'? Good god.

I love Evanescence, as well as the Gothic lifestyle. I wouldn't necessarily call myself "a goth" even though everyone i know thinks i am. I hate it when people judge others who dress like that and think they're evil satan worshippers. They're normal people who have a different style and beliefs. My depression is severe, and it's what brought on me to be dressing and acting like this. I only wear black clothes, partly so i can just fade away and go unnoticed. I have Evanescence and Bauhaus lyrics on my wall to express how i feel, and although my dad hates what kind of styles and beliefs i'm into and he wishes i can be bright and cheery again, even an ******* like him can accept that this is the way i am.

My father's even worse. When he heard I like Evanescence he said "Don't become one of those depressed goths who drinks blood and goes against everything righteous and pure!" Ugh!:mad: Some people are way too judgemental.

Originally posted by I am Him
But aren't "Goths" just as stuck up as the people they accuse of being stuck up?

I mean really, would a goth hang out with someone that wasn't a Goth? I doubt it.
that would define 'prep'.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social:o
Sorry but that pisses me the hell off. Depression is an ILLNESS, and i got mine from being social. i learned through experience that everyone will always hate me and here there is no such thing as a real friend.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
My father's even worse. When he heard I like Evanescence he said "Don't become one of those depressed goths who drinks blood and goes against everything righteous and pure!" Ugh!:mad: Some people are way too judgemental.
that is so dumb. first of all very few people drink blood. and they don't "go against everything righteous and pure." some might, but it doesn't define "goth" or "depression."

That pisses me off too. People can't control whether they have depression or not. Just because someone is pushed to the limit and can't stand it anymore doesn't make them low-life and antisocial.

One of my friends tried to make friends, got teased, and was miserable. He cried everyday, thought he had no friends, and had a miserable life. Nobody understood him but me and our other friend. I don't know what it's like having depression but it pisses me off when people condemn them when they don't know what it's like.

Originally posted by safety pin
that is so dumb. first of all very few people drink blood.

Even very few is too many puke:

I remember when I started a thread about how goths make me laugh and everyone got pissed at me. :lol:

Originally posted by safety pin
that is so dumb. first of all very few people drink blood. and they don't "go against everything righteous and pure." some might, but it doesn't define "goth" or "depression."

he's the type who can't stand anyone who thinks differently than him. I don't know what I believe in, and he tries to force his religion apon me. I've told him over and over that it is MY decision what I believe in and he says that "because i'm his son I should believe exactly what he believes":rolleyes:

I think you should be more respectful to your parents and quit starting threads knocking them.

Maybe this thread should be closed. I know this thread was disrespectful but I still don't think my parents were right about goths and depressed people.

Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
None of this would have happened if you were still watching Leave it to Beaver. :lol:

Your mother seems pretty strict on the things you do. I understand why, because you are young and Im sure shes only doing it for your best interest, but thats a little harsh. And um, may I ask what your Dad thinks of this?

Originally posted by ?I Love Clay Aiken?
:lol:

Your mother seems pretty strict on the things you do. I understand why, because you are young and Im sure shes only doing it for your best interest, but thats a little harsh. And um, may I ask what your Dad thinks of this? His parents are divorced.

Originally posted by RurryMicelli
His parents are divorced. o0o ok thanks. Yeah, I just read to how his father is even worse. My bad.

Originally posted by ?I Love Clay Aiken?
:lol:

Your mother seems pretty strict on the things you do. I understand why, because you are young and Im sure shes only doing it for your best interest, but thats a little harsh. And um, may I ask what your Dad thinks of this?

I agree. I know that it is because she's concerned and has my best interest in mind, but sometimes it comes across harsh. I don't mean to sound like a disrespectful, bratty kid when it comes to this.

I am 29 and still get bossed around. Would love to be that Brandon Lee character Eric Draven in The Crow and kill those people that hurt me right back when I get in that mood.

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
I am 29 and still get bossed around. Would love to be that Brandon Lee character Eric Draven in The Crow and kill those people that hurt me right back when I get in that mood.

edited

No but it has always been like the good happens to the bad and the bad happens to the good.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
I am 29 and still get bossed around. Would love to be that Brandon Lee character Eric Draven in The Crow and kill those people that hurt me right back when I get in that mood.
i wish i could kill everyone at my school. i publicly announced in PE that i hope everyone in that class dies. i know you all are gonna give me **** for this but you don't understand.

Originally posted by safety pin
i wish i could kill everyone at my school. i publicly announced in PE that i hope everyone in that class dies. i know you all are gonna give me **** for this but you don't understand.

Unfortuuately it's usually people like that who live forever:rolleyes: and i won't give you **** for this because there have been people I've wanted to die (this boy who harassed me and my friends, a stalker in my class, and others who make my life miserable).

Originally posted by AKA
I think you should be more respectful to your parents and quit starting threads knocking them. I agree. If I were a parent, I would let my 12 year old kid go to an Evanescence concert either. Chances are, she just made up an excuse to tell you that you can't go.

Originally posted by ?I Love Clay Aiken?
o0o ok thanks. Yeah, I just read to how his father is even worse. My bad.

No problem ;)

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
she also says that all people with depression are low-life people who need to get more social:o

I'd like your mother to tell me that to my face. :boxing:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I'd like your mother to tell me that to my face. :boxing:
There's nothing i do better than PWNING ignorant people who judge others with depression and such like. :grr:

Originally posted by Seth Thrasher
Speaking from quite a bit of experience, that's just plain ignorant. That...(breathes). Obviously, that woman has never suffered from it, or she WOULD know better. Dammit, don't you think I tried to be social. That I TRIED to be friendly? Hell yeah, but, even the slightest little thing would get me down into a funk I'd take a couple days to recover from. Still do occasionally. Depression can do that to ya. And low-life? That's the biggest steaming pile of horse-fed steaming bullshi I've ever read in my LIFE. Depression can strike ANYONE down. People have gone from perfectly happy and contented to suicidal in a matter of weeks and moths due to it. Life'll do that. I'd try to make a valid point, but that's just kinda hard at this point. I'm THAT mad.

EDIT: Of course, since no one reads my posts, what would it matter if I made a valid point or not...

:woohoo:

I'm depressed right now. So I guess I'm a low-life. :rolleyes: I have never been, nor will I ever be, a low-life. This woman is 6x the lowlife I am.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
:woohoo:

I'm depressed right now. So I guess I'm a low-life. :rolleyes: I have never been, nor will I ever be, a low-life. This woman is 6x the lowlife I am.

Then again, how do we know she actually said these things? Kids tend to exaggerate.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I'd like your mother to tell me that to my face. :boxing: :lol:

However, I agree. I was depressed in May when my grandfather died. I guess I was a lowlife :rolleyes:

All you need to know about Gothics. (http://maddox.xmission.com/gothics.html)

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
he's the type who can't stand anyone who thinks differently than him. I don't know what I believe in, and he tries to force his religion apon me. I've told him over and over that it is MY decision what I believe in and he says that "because i'm his son I should believe exactly what he believes":rolleyes:

Just out of curiosity...are your folks Catholic?


I despise people who push religion or their beliefs on me.

Originally posted by safety pin
i wish i could kill everyone at my school. i publicly announced in PE that i hope everyone in that class dies. i know you all are gonna give me **** for this but you don't understand.

I understand. I want my ex-bosses to die. They are the 2 most worthless humans on Earth and are wasting valuable air.

Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind


2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god.

don't forget that stupid rumor that they also like to have ceromonies where they sacrifice animals. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by AKA
Then again, how do we know she actually said these things? Kids tend to exaggerate.

So do adults. I wouldn't put it past anyone to say something that ignorant.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Just out of curiosity...are your folks Catholic?


I despise people who push religion or their beliefs on me. Why does it have to be Catholic? Those bible-thumping "born-again" Protestants are far worse.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
"Don't become one of those depressed goths who drinks blood and goes against everything righteous and pure!" .



:snorts: :rofl: sorry but thats just ridiculous. (sp?)

this topic blows.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Why does it have to be Catholic? Those bible-thumping "born-again" Protestants are far worse.

Because 90% of the devout Catholics I've run into are that way.

Originally posted by Dutabi84
All you need to know about Gothics. (http://maddox.xmission.com/gothics.html)
stereotypical

Originally posted by Dutabi84
All you need to know about Gothics. (http://maddox.xmission.com/gothics.html)



ohno:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Because 90% of the devout Catholics I've run into are that way. Maybe it's different here. :lol:

JK. Seriously, I understand what you're saying. Many devout Catholics are very hard to get along with. But I've been to a Catholic school and a "Born Again" Christian school, and many of those people are one million times worse. I've got multiple stories to prove that, but I won't get into it here.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Because 90% of the devout Catholics I've run into are that way.

90% of the Catholics you've met are ...what....0.000001% of the Catholics of the entire world probably. This thread is trying to combat stereotyping and saying things like that don't really help...

Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.

2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god. Perfect definitions. The second group needs to die.

Originally posted by Chambers
90% of the Catholics you've met are ...what....0.000001% of the Catholics of the entire world probably. This thread is trying to combat stereotyping and saying things like that don't really help... :nod: I totally understand people's problem with some outspoken religious people. But singling out Catholics, and even bringing religion into this was kind of bs. I hesitated to even write my negatives comments about it, but if we're going to go there, I, myself have run into more problems with devout Protestants than Catholics. There are, however, devout people of both who are just fine.

I'm stepping out of this thread. The end.

This thread is going to cause nothing but problems.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Just out of curiosity...are your folks Catholic?


I despise people who push religion or their beliefs on me.

i agree. my dad is and he tries pushing beliefs on me.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by AKA
Then again, how do we know she actually said these things? Kids tend to exaggerate.

that's an overgeneralization

Oh my lord...I posted waaaaay back on page 2-3 and left for the day. This thread is STILL going??

Good lord...ohno:

have you ever asked your mom if she remembers what it's like to be a kid?

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Because 90% of the devout Catholics I've run into are that way. Thank God I'm not devout. I was brought up Catholic, but I'm more...what's that word for...thinking anything is possible...agnostic er something.

I had a Christian friend who thought that anyone who dressed like that just didn't believe in God and that's why they're lives were awful. That's why religion pisses me off :rolleyes: She'd always go "If I didn't have God in my life I'd be one of those scary people who dress all in black" and whatever. Yet she knew me and I wasn't exactly believeing in God...and I am always goofy and stuff in school around her. I just don't understand their way of thinking.

Originally posted by AKA
I think you should be more respectful to your parents and quit starting threads knocking them. :clap

Originally posted by mr roper
This thread is going to cause nothing but problems. I like it. It's fun when people disagree :)

I think making this thread was a mistake. I hate coming across as a bratty kid

Originally posted by RurryMicelli
:lol:

However, I agree. I was depressed in May when my grandfather died. I guess I was a lowlife :rolleyes:

That's different, because you were in mourning. The period of time each person is in mourning varies, and is perfectably understandable. :)

Originally posted by AKA
I think you should be more respectful to your parents and quit starting threads knocking them.

Yepyep.

Originally posted by *A TV People*
Perfect definitions. The second group needs to die.
If it weren't for the second group, everyone wouldn't be whining and crying about labels all the time. label elitism is THE most annoying thing in the world right now. I cannot explain how much it pisses me off when people constantly call others poseurs because they label themselves, like a wide variety of music genres, or just show interest in a label like punk or goth. I want them all to die right now and let people do what they like. :rolleyes:

everyone should be able to like what they like without being stereotyped and "categorized"

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
everyone should be able to like what they like without being stereotyped and "categorized"

...but we can't. that's the way the world is. :grr:

Originally posted by skyhigh25789
...but we can't. that's the way the world is. :grr:

that's part of why it sucks:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
everyone should be able to like what they like without being stereotyped and "categorized"
Yeah, the only problem i have with labels is the way everyone abuses them. "Hey, you're not a punk, you can't wear that!" for crying out loud i wish people would just grow up. it almost intimidates me to become a music artist because of all the criticism i'd get "omg! she can't like metallica if she likes christina aguilera! POSER!" but i don't give a **** because the fact that they can't get a grip and stop restricting people from liking different styles is their problem and not mine. I can honestly say that i generally hate teenagers.

Originally posted by safety pin
Yeah, the only problem i have with labels is the way everyone abuses them. "Hey, you're not a punk, you can't wear that!" for crying out loud i wish people would just grow up. it almost intimidates me to become a music artist because of all the criticism i'd get "omg! she can't like metallica if she likes christina aguilera! POSER!" but i don't give a **** because the fact that they can't get a grip and stop restricting people from liking different styles is their problem and not mine. I can honestly say that i generally hate teenagers.


:lol: yea my sister says im a poser because i like Queen, Aerosmith, Sheryl Crow, and Pink. my dad once said to me that you are a poser yourself if you are that insecure to call other people posers. and you couldn't walk two feet in my school with a Hurley shirt on without getting asked "Why are you wearing that? Do you surf?" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Seth Thrasher
Mistake 1. Trying to force religion upon someone looking into the Gothic is DEFINITELY not a smart thing to do.



I wasn't forcing religon on her! She wanted to do something with me that day and I said I couldn't because I had to help out at church so I invited her. I wasn't forcing her to do anything!:o


She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
B. I shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
E. I read teen magazines
F. I don't cut my wrists
G. I worship God
H. I listen to Britney Spears
I. I hate when people make fun of preps
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
L. I use the words "like" and "totally"
M. I'm proud to be a girl

Originally posted by Miss Vicki
Yepyep. I disagree :)

See, the kid was just getting his opinion out. I doubt he was exaggerating anything, and if so...he probably doesn't realize it, it's just how he sees the way his parents are acting. I don't think he'd directly lie about their words, which were pretty harsh, and being it's a message board he has every right to bring up that topic.

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
B. I shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
E. I read teen magazines
F. I don't cut my wrists
G. I worship God
H. I listen to Britney Spears
I. I hate when people make fun of preps
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
L. I use the words "like" and "totally"
M. I'm proud to be a girl
... Oh my lord.

She cuts her wrists? That is really stupid, and dangerous. Wrist cutting is deadly. If she does it to be a goth (assuming she does it in the first place), she probably doesn't even know why people do it.

Originally posted by safety pin
... Oh my lord.

She cuts her wrists? That is really stupid, and dangerous. Wrist cutting is deadly. If she does it to be a goth (assuming she does it in the first place), she probably doesn't even know why people do it.

:nod: :yeahthat
Thats a terrible thing to do. My cousin's friend was caught cutting her wrists in the bathroom and she was expelled :eek:
Plus, you could die by cutting your wrist. Its really dangerous

Yes, she cuts her wrists. She came to school one day with cuts on her wrists and she said that she did it to be goth. I sent her to the guidance counsler.

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
Yes, she cuts her wrists. She came to school one day with cuts on her wrists and she said that she did it to be goth. I sent her to the guidance counsler.

Sounds to me like she needs to seek help. Cutting wrists cause others do it, is just strange, that to me leads me to believe there's deeper emotional problems, that maybe she does it to get attention too :(

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Sounds to me like she needs to seek help. Cutting wrists cause others do it, is just strange, that to me leads me to believe there's deeper emotional problems, that maybe she does it to get attention too :(


She gets too much attention!

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
I sent her to the guidance counsler.
Good for you. Risking your life to be cool is nuts. i can't even believe that. i will admit that i cut myself when i'm really hurt because it always seems to make the pain go away, which makes it addicting. i'm not saying it's ok, i wish i had a better way to deal with depression but i don't. but doing it by absolute choice just to be a goth is going too far, and she needs help if she chooses to be that way.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
So do adults. I wouldn't put it past anyone to say something that ignorant.

I don't know. Something tells me that our young Skater Boy may be stretching the truth pretty far to support his point.

Originally posted by safety pin
Good for you. Risking your life to be cool is nuts. i can't even believe that. i will admit that i cut myself when i'm really hurt because it always seems to make the pain go away, which makes it addicting. i'm not saying it's ok, i wish i had a better way to deal with depression but i don't. but doing it by absolute choice just to be a goth is going too far, and she needs help if she chooses to be that way.

O.T.: I have a question for you. I know somebody who deals with pain the same way you do - except her case doesn't seem to have anything to do with depression. Being an overly sensitive person, she's developed a habit of getting rid of pain before contemplating what the pain is all about. I was wondering whether cutting is predominantly linked to depression. I'm asking this out of curiousity - this person has already started to get help. Do you have any insights?

Originally posted by AKA
I don't know. Something tells me that our young Skater Boy may be stretching the truth pretty far to support his point. Assuming ohno:

Originally posted by *A TV People*
Assuming ohno:

That's right; it's an assumption. Doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Originally posted by Chambers
O.T.: I have a question for you. I know somebody who deals with pain the same way you do - except her case doesn't seem to have anything to do with depression. Being an overly sensitive person, she's developed a habit of getting rid of pain before contemplating what the pain is all about. I was wondering whether cutting is predominantly linked to depression. I'm asking this out of curiousity - this person has already started to get help. Do you have any insights?
I think most people who cut themselves have depression, but i suppose some people who do it don't have the illness.

Originally posted by AKA
That's right; it's an assumption. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. Or right.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
But singling out Catholics, and even bringing religion into this was kind of bs.

Thank you. I enjoy spreading bull**** around. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by safety pin
i learned through experience that everyone will always hate me and here there is no such thing as a real friend.

Bull****.

Originally posted by *A TV People*
I disagree :)

See, the kid was just getting his opinion out. I doubt he was exaggerating anything, and if so...he probably doesn't realize it, it's just how he sees the way his parents are acting. I don't think he'd directly lie about their words, which were pretty harsh, and being it's a message board he has every right to bring up that topic.

Everyone should be allowed to vent despite if they're "knocking" or "disrespecting" someone.

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
F. I don't cut my wrists
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
M. I'm proud to be a girl

I'm a prep!

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I'm a prep! Me 2!1 :happyface

[B]I wasn't forcing religon on her! She wanted to do something with me that day and I said I couldn't because I had to help out at church so I invited her. I wasn't forcing her to do anything!:o
Point. See, sometimes, you tend to overread things, and you make an ass out of yourself. And this morning, I do believe I overread your post just a little. Apologies.

She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
B. I shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
E. I read teen magazines
F. I don't cut my wrists
G. I worship God
H. I listen to Britney Spears
I. I hate when people make fun of preps
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
L. I use the words "like" and "totally"
M. I'm proud to be a girl

If those things are qualifications for a prep, then I know quite a few people who are preps. Oy....

Originally posted by AKA
Then again, how do we know she actually said these things? Kids tend to exaggerate.

True. But, barring the mother coming on here to defend herself, it's essentially the original poster's word against, well, no word....

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I'm a prep!
go away u s2pid prep n leave us gothz alone.

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky


She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
B. I shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
E. I read teen magazines
F. I don't cut my wrists
G. I worship God
H. I listen to Britney Spears
I. I hate when people make fun of preps
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
L. I use the words "like" and "totally"
M. I'm proud to be a girl


i guess im a prep then too

Originally posted by safety pin
go away u s2pid prep n leave us gothz alone.

Like, why?? I'm just being friendly. *gum pop* Have you guys seen the latest sale at the Gap?!

I'm sorry. My mom doesn't really care that I'm a cutter-goth/skater punk, I guess I should be thankful for that.

Every1 should be entitled to rant about their parents or whatever

I doubt Sk8er Boi is stretching the truth, I believe all of it:cool:

Originally posted by AKA
I don't know. Something tells me that our young Skater Boy may be stretching the truth pretty far to support his point.

Oh, thanks for making that bashing thread. I was REAL insulted by it. not:mad:

Iam very attracted sexy goth girls ! :nod: :drool:

Originally posted by Mrs. Ducky
I wasn't forcing religon on her! She wanted to do something with me that day and I said I couldn't because I had to help out at church so I invited her. I wasn't forcing her to do anything!:o


She says that I'm a prep because:

A. I like the color pink
B. I shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
c. I wear makeup
D. I brush my hair
E. I read teen magazines
F. I don't cut my wrists
G. I worship God
H. I listen to Britney Spears
I. I hate when people make fun of preps
J. I care about my apearance
K. I don't hide my body in baggy pants and sweatshirts
L. I use the words "like" and "totally"
M. I'm proud to be a girl



D,F,G,J,andM are stupid. You're a prep because you are a decent human being? Well i guess im a prep. :wave:

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
Oh, thanks for making that bashing thread. I was REAL insulted by it. not:mad:


just ignore him :rolleyes:

Originally posted by skyhigh25789
just ignore him :rolleyes:

Thanks. You are a good friend:D His other thread got locked:happyface

edited. i shouldnt have got involved.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
His other thread got locked:happyface

Too bad.

Originally posted by Rainbow Rooster
Too bad.

your avatar rocks. :eyes:

Originally posted by skyhigh25789
i thought it was against the rules to make a thread bashing a member? :confused:


If it was a thread bashing him, it would say stuff about him that is mean and isn't nice. The thread was a PARODY thread. It didn't bash anybody.

Originally posted by skyhigh25789
i thought it was against the rules to make a thread bashing a member? :confused:

it wasn't bashing me, it was making fun of this thread which was also making fun of me. he's done that before.

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
Thanks. You are a good friend:D His other thread got locked:happyface


That sucks.

I didn't close the other thread so it would be continued on this thread. End it please, or this one gets locked too.

sorry Janice.

hmmm sorry about your situation. And sorry that AKA had to make a dumb parody of your thread. That was rude

I hate labels.
And I hate people who always try to be "different" by dressing "different". But then they have a bunch of friends that dress exactly the same way!!

Anways, you're only what -- 12, right??
I was never allowed to go to a concert at 12, hell -- Im not even sure if I can go to a concert now (no interest, at the moment).

And about the Catholic/"bible thumping" Protestants (a term I LOVE by the way)

Once again, adding my own generalization, but only based on my own life events -- "Bible Thumping" Protestants have been (in my life experiences anyway) much more judgemental than Catholics.

I myself am Catholic, although certainly not devout.

But what very few people know is that the Nazi's hated Catholics as well as Jews.

(which doesnt make any sense, because Christianity came from Catholicism, which came from Judaism)
That's like killing your Grandpa.... in a sense.


Sorry, OT.

Originally posted by barwars
And I hate people who always try to be "different" by dressing "different". But then they have a bunch of friends that dress exactly the same way!!
Usually people who dress "different" are just staying away from styles that are mainstream or what most of their peers wear, knowing that there are other people in the world that look like them.

Originally posted by safety pin
Usually people who dress "different" are just staying away from styles that are mainstream or what most of their peers wear, knowing that there are other people in the world that look like them.

But its stupid if you ask me. Because then -- they dress exactly like their friends. So their not different than anybody! They just get cast aside into a clique.

You can call me whatever you want. Although Goth would be kind of dumb.... because nothing about me fits the stereotype of being Goth. Preppy -- I dont care, because I KNOW Im better.



;)

Originally posted by safety pin
Usually people who dress "different" are just staying away from styles that are mainstream or what most of their peers wear, knowing that there are other people in the world that look like them.


:raises hand:

Originally posted by 8SimpleRules
And sorry that AKA had to make a dumb parody of your thread.

I'm not.

Originally posted by 8SimpleRules
That was rude

I think you missed the whole point of the thread.

um hello? didn't Janice just say to end this thread? :rolleyes:

[/threadjack]

i was watching something on the news a coupla years ago where they were interviewing some young teens about piercings and stuff - my favorite response was:

"I wanna be different and express my individuality, just like all of my friends"

Originally posted by robyrob
[/threadjack]

i was watching something on the news a coupla years ago where they were interviewing some young teens about piercings and stuff - my favorite response was:

"I wanna be different and express my individuality, just like all of my friends"

:lol:

Originally posted by robyrob
[/threadjack]

i was watching something on the news a coupla years ago where they were interviewing some young teens about piercings and stuff - my favorite response was:

"I wanna be different and express my individuality, just like all of my friends" :rotflmao:

I hate teengers. Is that possible, Uncle Roby, being that I am one? :( :)

Originally posted by AKA
I'm not.
:lol:

Originally posted by *A TV People*
:rotflmao:

I hate teengers. Is that possible, Uncle Roby, being that I am one? :( :)
Fear not, child, for I am the same way. I HATE teenagers, their stupid trends and their annoying obsessions with sex and drugs. **** us. We all need to die.

Originally posted by safety pin
Fear not, child, for I am the same way. I HATE teenagers, their stupid trends and their annoying obsessions with sex and drugs. **** us. We all need to die. Let's form a cult! :triplets

Originally posted by *A TV People*
:rotflmao:

I hate teengers. Is that possible, Uncle Roby, being that I am one? :( :)

Me 3!! I know I'm not a teen, but I hated them when I was. I didn't fit in. :crying:

Originally posted by robyrob
[/threadjack]

i was watching something on the news a coupla years ago where they were interviewing some young teens about piercings and stuff - my favorite response was:

"I wanna be different and express my individuality, just like all of my friends"

:rofl:!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Avril's Sk8er Boi
it wasn't bashing me, it was making fun of this thread which was also making fun of me. he's done that before.

:rolleyes:

It was a PARODY. It was filled with sarcasm. Sheesh.

I'm not thinking about that thread anymore. It's all over and done.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Those bible-thumping "born-again" Protestants are far worse.

Can I get a label...?

*puts in pocket*

Guess it's my "group's" turn to be discriminated against. Oh wait-- we've been discriminated against, mocked, and laughed at since after Adam's sin.

And just to let you know, Cashodeen, I pray for you every night and will continue to do so.

Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
What is "goth"???
I used online dictionary and google image search, but I can't figure out what that is !! Plese tell me that ?

Goths are what they call youths that like to dress up like Edward Scissor hands.

Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
What is "goth"???
I used online dictionary and google image search, but I can't figure out what that is !! Plese tell me that ? Why did you bump this up?

Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
What is "goth"???
I used online dictionary and google image search, but I can't figure out what that is !! Plese tell me that ? I dont really know how to explain it....

Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
Thank you, now I can imagine how they look like. Are those people discriminated like gay people ? And, is Miss.Avril Lavigne "goth"? cause she looks like Edward Scissor hands (I mean her make-up).

No. She is what you call, "Skater punk".

And just because people wear really dark eye makeup, doesn't make them "goth" or "punk". Some of the prepiest girls I know are going really heavy on the eye makeup and trying to be all "goth". But they should really stop, cause they look like idiots.

Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
What is "goth"???
I used online dictionary and google image search, but I can't figure out what that is !! Plese tell me that ?
It really is hard to explain, but usually goth is basically free thinking and not listening to morals and rules of society just because that's "just how it is". A goth is just someone into the goth scene. the lifestyle, clothes, music, etc. Annoying label elitists who have their panties in a bunch and sarcastically say "omgomgomg look, i'm wearin goth stuff, m i a goth now?!?!1/1" are just making it more difficult to explain and further making these labels that they "hate" into a bigger deal.

i should just write an essay about how there's nothing wrong with labels and label elitists are the most annoying and stupid people ever. i'm being literal and honest when i say they're my absolute biggest pet peeve of society and they annoy me more than any other kind of person. i <3 labels. up yours man.

Originally posted by safety pin
It really is hard to explain, but usually goth is basically free thinking and not listening to morals and rules of society just because that's "just how it is". A goth is just someone into the goth scene. the lifestyle, clothes, music, etc. Annoying label elitists who have their panties in a bunch and sarcastically say "omgomgomg look, i'm wearin goth stuff, m i a goth now?!?!1/1" are just making it more difficult to explain and further making these labels that they "hate" into a bigger deal.

i should just write an essay about how there's nothing wrong with labels and label elitists are the most annoying and stupid people ever. i'm being literal and honest when i say they're my absolute biggest pet peeve of society and they annoy me more than any other kind of person. i <3 labels. up yours man.


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Originally posted by safety pin
It really is hard to explain, but usually goth is basically free thinking and not listening to morals and rules of society just because that's "just how it is". A goth is just someone into the goth scene. the lifestyle, clothes, music, etc. Annoying label elitists who have their panties in a bunch and sarcastically say "omgomgomg look, i'm wearin goth stuff, m i a goth now?!?!1/1" are just making it more difficult to explain and further making these labels that they "hate" into a bigger deal.

i should just write an essay about how there's nothing wrong with labels and label elitists are the most annoying and stupid people ever. i'm being literal and honest when i say they're my absolute biggest pet peeve of society and they annoy me more than any other kind of person. i <3 labels. up yours man.

Everyone I know who hates labels hates it because they aren't labeled as what they want to be. Like I have a friend trying to be goth. And he's a prep so he hates labels because of it.

The sad truth is that Goths are normally far more trendy than preps, in the sense that it seems preps generally give little thought to fashion they just happen to shop in the same places, where as goths all do the same things as eachother in order to be nonconformists



Watch the episode of Southpark "Raisins"

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
The sad truth is that Goths are normally far more trendy than preps, in the sense that it seems preps generally give little thought to fashion they just happen to shop in the same places, where as goths all do the same things as eachother in order to be nonconformists



Watch the episode of Southpark "Raisins" Hahaha, **** yeah. Tis very true.

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
where as goths all do the same things as eachother in order to be nonconformists



Watch the episode of Southpark "Raisins"
You can't base all goths on that episode, let alone on an unrealistic show like south park. saying "goths all do the same things as eachother in order to be nonconformists" is ENTIRELY an overgeneralization.

I didnt base my opinion on that episode, that episode was so funny becuase it expressed what I already knew to be true