What shows do you think didn't live up to ratings N@N or TV Land hoped for them? Give answers and explain why. For example, I would not list a show like Coach as a N@N disappointment because I don't think N@N ever had any hope for it

Nick at Nite

Welcome Back Kotter - Nick at Nite had a whole Welcome Back week and then devoted Kotter Fridays to the show in the summer of 1995. When the show premiered in the regular lineup at 11PM, it was gone less than a year later

color Bewitched - It's quite obvious that the B&W episodes of Bewitched were a huge hit for N@N for many years but when the color episodes launched in 1998, Bewitched was pushed back to 11:30PM by the summer and hit overnite in 1999. I think the color ones never quite got the same ratings the B&W ones did

WKRP in Cincinnati - I don't think N@N ever had huge hopes for this but it must have really tanked for them because it was down to once a week about 3 months after it started airing

Facts of Life/Dif'frent Strokes - I will never get why they left the lineup as quickly as they did because I thought they were doing well in the ratings

TV Land

Batman - TV Land couldn't have been more excited about Batman coming... it even got some airtime on N@N but it was not too long before Batman was shelved to bad time slots and then it disappeared before it's contract even expired

Mary Tyler Moore - I don't think it ever lived up to it's N@N ratings. After 8 years on N@N, by the time it got to TV Land primetime, it was probably not doing as well and it soon got pushed to a morning time slot. I expect it'll rebound and be strong if it comes back in a few years

I'll add more as I think of some... share your thoughts!

Nick at Nite

Laverne & Shirley - Nick at Nite treated this show good up until Spring 1999 (marathon, day in block party summer, nice prime-time slot in fall/winter) when the show lost the 10:30pm airing. From that day forth, it was seldom seen in prime-time or in one of the future block party summers.

WKRP In Cincinnatti - Recieved an introduction marathon, however no prime-time slot. It was one of those show that got pushed to the "backburner".

The Lucy Show - Once I Love Lucy debuted, this show moved quickly to the wee hours of the night and was never, EVER treated like the same. Unfortunitely, the show remained in the graveyard until N@N pulled the plug on it in July of 1996.



TV Land
Laverne & Shirley - Didn't last long in Twice as Nice and lasted only six months on network.

The Bob Newhart Show - TV Land has had the rights to this show for over two years or so and they are NOW beginning to re-air it?

Carol Burnett & Friends - Dropped from prime-time within a month after it's network debut.

All In The Family - Was quickly faded out in prime-time ... only to be moved in a late night slot.

We'll have to see about Murphy Brown. It never was a big syndicated hit anyway.

Besides Batman, I like all the shows discussed so far.

I only get Nick at Nite so I have a few shows that disappointed me that they didn't get the treatment they deserved.

Family Ties--shoved to late nights
Charles In Charge--was shown in late nights only and they skipped the Pembroke episodes that aired on CBS
WKRP In Cincinatti--treated terribly
Maude--In 1999,they aired this show for about a month along with All In The Family,The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son. That really disappointed me when they dropped the show and the way they edited Sanford and Son as well. Sanford and Son was also was dropped after that month.
The Wonder Years--poorly treated

Originally posted by benjamoon
What shows do you think didn't live up to ratings N@N or TV Land hoped for them? Give answers and explain why. For example, I would not list a show like Coach as a N@N disappointment because I don't think N@N ever had any hope for it

Nick at Nite

Welcome Back Kotter - Nick at Nite had a whole Welcome Back week and then devoted Kotter Fridays to the show in the summer of 1995. When the show premiered in the regular lineup at 11PM, it was gone less than a year later

color Bewitched - It's quite obvious that the B&W episodes of Bewitched were a huge hit for N@N for many years but when the color episodes launched in 1998, Bewitched was pushed back to 11:30PM by the summer and hit overnite in 1999. I think the color ones never quite got the same ratings the B&W ones did

WKRP in Cincinnati - I don't think N@N ever had huge hopes for this but it must have really tanked for them because it was down to once a week about 3 months after it started airing

Facts of Life/Dif'frent Strokes - I will never get why they left the lineup as quickly as they did because I thought they were doing well in the ratings

TV Land

Batman - TV Land couldn't have been more excited about Batman coming... it even got some airtime on N@N but it was not too long before Batman was shelved to bad time slots and then it disappeared before it's contract even expired

Mary Tyler Moore - I don't think it ever lived up to it's N@N ratings. After 8 years on N@N, by the time it got to TV Land primetime, it was probably not doing as well and it soon got pushed to a morning time slot. I expect it'll rebound and be strong if it comes back in a few years

I'll add more as I think of some... share your thoughts!
ABout FOL, yeah, FOL was doing excellent in ratings but dumb Nick@Nite canceled it for some stupid reason

I agree that Diff'rent Strokes and Facts of Life didn't last as long on N@N as they should have. DS was later moved to TNN...didn't last long on there either. :(

As for TV Land, Family Ties must have been a disappointment. They played that 48 hour marathon last winter, which was awesome. Then, they played the show twice a day...and now only once a day. (in the middle of the night, mind you)

Some shows on TV Land

Mr. Ed.- It was a staple of Nick at Nite for several years and was on TV Land first schudule but this time they treated this show with no respect pushed back to th elate night and then started airing it on Sundays only and they disapper from the schudule. But they put it back on the schudule for now.

Barney Miller- They treated the show fairly nice for a year. Then they pushed it back into the late night.

Charlie's Angels- Same with Barney Miller.

Dennis the Menace/Donna Reed- You think that they would give those shows that put Nick at Nite on the map they would give those shows a little respect? No, They not only show every episode they only showed about 30-35 episodes the had right to :mad:

It seems like N@N is dissapointed in anything thats not Cosby related. i'm sick of it being The Cosby Show every second of the friggan night..... sick i tell you.

let's not forget Wings...fantastic show in a horrible time slot.

Also, Head of the Class and Perfect Strangers. Awesome shows aring at 3 or 4 in the morning!

All the titles listed I agree with as well.

Wings, less than a month on N@N and shoved to timeslot Siberia. I don't believe the ratings were that bad.

Family Ties, I always thought it did well on N@N but I guess I was wrong.

Originally posted by factsoflife
It seems like N@N is dissapointed in anything thats not Cosby related. i'm sick of it being The Cosby Show every second of the friggan night..... sick i tell you.

That's about to change, TCS is being reduced to two shows a night, The Fresh Prince is gonna be their overplayed show when it debuts :rolleyes:

How about Coach on N@N? Didn't seem to last too long in primetime or overnight.

Originally posted by Sid
Some shows on TV Land



Dennis the Menace/Donna Reed- You think that they would give those shows that put Nick at Nite on the map they would give those shows a little respect? No, They not only show every episode they only showed about 30-35 episodes the had right to :mad:

I agree with you 100% and would say the same thing for My Three Sons.

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Wings, less than a month on N@N and shoved to timeslot Siberia. I don't believe the ratings were that bad.


Quite a while back I posted on the Nick at Nite/TV Land official message board about why they did a week long Wings marathon but then pulled it almost entirely from their lineup, showing it only late at night. I actually got a response from the moderator of the board saying that Wings didn't pull in the ratings they had hoped for. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know, that sucks. :mad: I always thought it was a very funny show.

I haven't tuned much to Nick at Nite. Eversince Tvland came to my cable company, I haven't watched Nick at all. I did find that Nick was showing more 1980 shows vs Tvland has more older shows. Most of the 1980's shows I saw when they were in production or didn't appeal to me in the first place.

on "THE E! TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY" once, they did "Welcome Back, Kotter" & Gabe Kaplan was saying what the problem was whe N@N showed it. He was saying when they started showing it, it was doing good and getting good ratings, then they got to the later episodes after John Travota left (exept for a few episodes where he made guest appearences) Gabe Kotter wasn't around in 99% of the episodes, and ABC made all these changes to it that caused it to suck, and sudenly the ratings on N@N for it dropped off.
So some similar probably also happened when TV LAND showed it.

I realize this is rather old, but still thought I'd respond. I'll have to think on N@N. My thoughts on TVL's biggest ratings disappointments:

Night Court
Highway to Heaven
Benson
227
Wings
Family Ties
Murphy Brown
Miami Vice
Simon and Simon/Knight Rider [I guess, given the way they were yanked]
Star Trek
I Dream of Jeannie
Barney Miller

I'm sure I'm missing some.

It seems like N@N is dissapointed in anything thats not Cosby related. i'm sick of it being The Cosby Show every second of the friggan night..... sick i tell you.

They haven't given anything non Cosby, Roseanne, or Fresh Prince related a chance?

Laverne & Shirley on both networks... N@N got me hooked then moved it to a dreaded 3:30 am slot for about a year... and then eventually dropped it entirely.

I don't even watch N@N anymore, because as soon as you get used to a show or lineup, it's already on it's way out. I miss the VARIETY that we used to see on N@N...

At least Lifetime Real Women airs L&S 4 times a day, in a row. That's always a treat.

Yes... unfortunately, I don't get the network, but I was still glad to see it being aired somewhere...

I think Batman came on TV Land at 6:00 pm and 6:30 pm Central Time

N@N also treated Head Of The Class, Who's The Boss?, and Perfect Strangers like crap. They were only on in ther wee WEE hours. At 4 and 5am.....WTB? Had a marathon, the it was in the 10 o`clock hour, and after a week or 2, it was shoved to 3am.

perfect strangers, 227, chalres in charge, a different world

N@N also treated Head Of The Class, Who's The Boss?, and Perfect Strangers like crap. They were only on in ther wee WEE hours. At 4 and 5am.....WTB? Had a marathon, the it was in the 10 o`clock hour, and after a week or 2, it was shoved to 3am.
actually WTB was on at 10 pm for a couple of months. it joined in june then had a good marathon timeslot for july and august, then in most of september it was on at 10 PM. it wasn't til like October that it moved to the wee hours. only a couple of months but nowadays shows have that timeslot for like, 3 weeks.

Designing Women... taken off the schedule after what, a month?

Charles in Charge I believe only had one run on N@N.

Family Ties
The Wonderyears
whos the boss?
perfect strangers

Designing Women... taken off the schedule after what, a month?

Technically, the show still is on the schedule, every third day at 5am.

Sorry I missed it. When is the Bob Newhart Show airing?




TV Land

The Bob Newhart Show - TV Land has had the rights to this show for over two years or so and they are NOW beginning to re-air it?

TVLand,after saying last year,that when they returned "The Munsters" and "The Addams Family"to their lineup,that "The people have spoken".But did they listen?For a while,it appeared that they DID.But then they moved the shows from timeslot to timeslot,so that NOBODY could find them.First,they aired them at the 4:30-5:30 PM (3:30-4:30 PM Central) slot in the afternoon.Then they moved it to the 3:30-4:30 PM (2:30-3:30 PMCentral)slot in the afternoon.And NOW they've moved them AGAIN,with "Green Acres",to weekend mornings ONLY.Why couldn't they have left them as is?It boggles the mind.

I Don't Know If this Count But The Jeffersons First Aired On Tv Land In 2002 For 9-10 Months

Technically, the show still is on the schedule, every third day at 5am.
Ugh....They might as well just take it off.

It seemed like Cheers was doing okay on N@N for a while, but then it went to TVLAND, and it really hasn't been a hit there.

Okay The Jeffersons Were On Tv Land From February 2002-December 2002 And Were Not Treated Will.

It seemed like Cheers was doing okay on N@N for a while, but then it went to TVLAND, and it really hasn't been a hit there.

I always remember it airing every night at 10pm and 10:30pm for a long time before it moved to TVLand. But it's weird how many shows do very well on NAN, and then when they move to TV Land, they bomb. Wonder why that is . . .

Their whole current schedule is a disappointment to me, I don't even bother watching anymore unless I flip through the stations and catch Sanford And Son or Good Times.

Their whole current schedule is a disappointment to me, I don't even bother watching anymore unless I flip through the stations and catch Sanford And Son or Good Times.


The Primetime Schedule on the weekends STINKS on TVLand. TVland's best night is Mondays, Cosbyshow, Three's Company, and Good Times.

It seems like N@N is dissapointed in anything thats not Cosby related. i'm sick of it being The Cosby Show every second of the friggan night..... sick i tell you.
N@N seems to be disappointed in everything that's not Fresh Prince related in the past year

N@N seems to be disappointed in everything that's not Fresh Prince related in the past year


yeah and Roseanne too...