She was not spinned off into her own show, Esther Rolle was given her own show. So there is no connection between Maude and Goodtimes. The 1974 Issue Of Ebony Magazine supports this and it states that the characters that John Amos Esther Rolle portrayed on Maude were written off the show so that Amos and Rolle could star in their own show. So these characters were not spinned off into their own show like George and Louise Jefferson were when they departed All in the Family. So there is no longer a mystery about why the Husband had a different name on Good Times, no longer a mystery why Florida was living in Chicago and not the state of NY and n longer a mystery why the Evans were a struggling family when Florida's husband was supposed to have a better job on Maude. So Maude did not spinoff Good Times in 1974, it just said goodbye to the characters Henry and Florida Evans.

And everything you stated, supports the fact that you do not know what a spin-off is.

Which brings me to a question: Why are you so obsessed with trying to denounce Good Times as being a spinoff of Maude? What's the big deal?

Originally posted by boechsner
And everything you stated, supports the fact that you do not know what a spin-off is.

Which brings me to a question: Why are you so obsessed with trying to denounce Good Times as being a spinoff of Maude? What's the big deal?

You must did not read my post. It states in the 1974 Ebony that the Florida and henry Evans characters were big hits on Maude and wanted to GIVE them their own show not spinoff the charaters. So those two characters were WRITTEN Out so that they could give Esther Rolle a brand new show of her own. And that's why it was based in Chicago because it was a different type of show. If Good times was a spinoff it would have still been based in NY. And you asked me what's the big deal? Anyone should be able to see that Good times has nothing at aLL to do with Maude. Now there should be no more discussion about this especially since I explained it was inside the Ebony Magazine. I'm not making this up, i'm just saying that I was right and have been saying Good Times wasn't a spinoff for the longest. I bet if you call Norman Lear, he will tell you the same thing.

Originally posted by SOLOMON

You must did not read my post. It states in the 1974 Ebony that the Florida and henry Evans characters were big hits on Maude and wanted to GIVE them their own show not spinoff the charaters. So those two characters were WRITTEN Out so that they could give Esther Rolle a brand new show of her own. And that's why it was based in Chicago because it was a different type of show. If Good times was a spinoff it would have still been based in NY. And you asked me what's the big deal? Anyone should be able to see that Good times has nothing at aLL to do with Maude. Now there should be no more discussion about this especially since I explained it was inside the Ebony Magazine. I'm not making this up, i'm just saying that I was right and have been saying Good Times wasn't a spinoff for the longest. I bet if you call Norman Lear, he will tell you the same thing.

When a person is 'given' a show, that show can be a spinoff. Case in point, some sources state that Audra Lindley and Norman Fell were given their own show in The Ropers. However, TR is obviously a spinoff.

<sarcasm>I guess everything that's ever been done about GT being a spinoff of Maude on specials and in written text is wrong and after all these years someone is finally right. :rolleyes:</sarcasm>

Originally posted by Sean Snow


When a person is 'given' a show, that show can be a spinoff. Case in point, some sources state that Audra Lindley and Norman Fell were given their own show in The Ropers. However, TR is obviously a spinoff.

<sarcasm>I guess everything that's ever been done about GT being a spinoff of Maude on specials and in written text is wrong and after all these years someone is finally right. :rolleyes:</sarcasm>



Yes the Ropers was a spinoff because t was based in CA, Yes the Jeffersons was a spinoff because it was based in NY, Yes Maude was a spinoff because it was based in NY, Yes Laverne and Shirley was a spinoff because it was based in WI, GOOD TIMES WAS BASED IN CHICAGO And they were poor. The situation of Good Times was completely different, The city was different, and the Husband 's name was different. WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE SAID????????????????????????????????

But the name of Esther Rolle's character on both Maude and Good Times was Florida Evans, even though Henry became James and they suddenly lived in Chicago. This really confused things. If they wanted to be clear that Good Times was not a spinoff of Maude and that they were new characters, they should have given Florida a new name.

On the other hand, maybe Norman Lear figured the controversy(it is or is it not a spinoff) would keep people talking about both shows(which it has!)

"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?

Originally posted by hawaii five-o
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?


There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois.

Go suck an egg. Nobody cares, Sitcom Analyzer. Everyone knows that Good Times is a spin-off and your constant discussion of this point is just making you sound stupider and stupider.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Go suck an egg. Nobody cares, Sitcom Analyzer. Everyone knows that Good Times is a spin-off and your constant discussion of this point is just making you sound stupider and stupider.

I already said GOOD TIMES is not a spinoff, I said everything I had to say. But you are bumping up old threads. I don't even discuss this topic anymore. As far I'm concerned, MAUDE AND GOOD TIMES ARE IN NO WAY RELATED!!!!!!

GeeBee, funny seeing you here! Are you the same GeeBee from Muppet Central? :wave:

Good Times was a great show, spin-off or not. I think if it wasn't a spin-off, though, they'd have changed Florida's name. How many people are there in the world named Florida, anyway? And how many of them just happen to be African-American housekeepers?

I hope Maude gets a DVD release one day. I really dig it, especially the episodes with Florida.

Originally posted by astro4004
GeeBee, funny seeing you here! Are you the same GeeBee from Muppet Central? :wave:

Good Times was a great show, spin-off or not. I think if it wasn't a spin-off, though, they'd have changed Florida's name. How many people are there in the world named Florida, anyway? And how many of them just happen to be African-American housekeepers?

I hope Maude gets a DVD release one day. I really dig it, especially the episodes with Florida.



THank You. Glad to see someone else sees that GT was not in no way connected to Maude.

Originally posted by hawaii five-o
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right? Not to mention,unlike Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley,Mork & Mindy wasn't even set in Milwaukee or the 1950s & 60s.So I guess Mork & Mindy wasn't a spin off from Happy Days after all.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois. Yes but the character of Mork was first introduced in a dream that Richie Cunningham had.The next thing we knew,Happy Days developed a new spin off.Not only that,but when Mork visited Richie and Fonzie at the Cunningham house for the second time,it wasn't a dream.There was no explanation for how a dream of Richie's suddenly came true either.

Originally posted by Pug Lover
Yes but the character of Mork was first introduced in a dream that Richie Cunningham had.The next thing we knew,Happy Days developed a new spin off.Not only that,but when Mork visited Richie and Fonzie at the Cunningham house for the second time,it wasn't a dream.There was no explanation for how a dream of Richie's suddenly came true either.



But Fonzie guest Starred on Mork and Mindy, Maude never was mentioned or appeared on Good Times

Benson was a spin off of Soap but he never return to Soap or anyone other than Jessica Tate came to visit Benson in his new home and new state.

I was reading pass post someone keep claiming Good Times was not a spin-off of Maude and saying Henry name was different maybe his name was Henry James Evans or something like that.


What is with that TV person?

Originally posted by Benson
I was reading pass post someone keep claiming Good Times was not a spin-off of Maude and saying Henry name was different maybe his name was Henry James Evans or something like that.


What is with that TV person?


Because GT was set in Chicago and it was ever explained how Florida arrived in Chicago from Harlem.

Originally posted by Benson
Benson was a spin off of Soap but he never return to Soap or anyone other than Jessica Tate came to visit Benson in his new home and new state.


It was already explained by the executive producer of Good Times in 1974 that it was not a spinoff because it was ONLY ONE character-(Florida) and that character was changed.

Oh brother I got a headache just from reading the post on this one

but here it goes

The character Florida was Created on Maude
There for it is a spin off
back then they didn't really pay much attention to to how much things matched, when it came to the story.
They did that alot back then

Originally posted by Trishalla
Oh brother I got a headache just from reading the post on this one

but here it goes

The character Florida was Created on Maude
There for it is a spin off
back then they didn't really pay much attention to to how much things matched, when it came to the story.
They did that alot back then


Not True

I HATE TO BREAK THE NEWS TO TO YOU BUT IF YOU READ THE BACK OF THE DVD SET FOR GOOD TIMES
IT WILL TELL YOU THAT GOOD TIMES IS A SPIN OFF FROM MAUDE
AND NOW THAT IT IS IN PRINT ON THE GOOD TIMES BOX SET YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOUR SELF AND SEE

Originally posted by Trishalla
I HATE TO BREAK THE NEWS TO TO YOU BUT IF YOU READ THE BACK OF THE DVD SET FOR GOOD TIMES
IT WILL TELL YOU THAT GOOD TIMES IS A SPIN OFF FROM MAUDE
AND NOW THAT IT IS IN PRINT ON THE GOOD TIMES BOX SET YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOUR SELF AND SEE


THEY ARE WRONG!!!!

I recall an edition of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" that asked the question (Which show was a spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family). Maude was one of the multiple choice questions but was the wrong answer. It seemed to be a spinoff but was not a direct spinoff I suppose. Most certainly the character was based on the Maude Character.

Originally posted by GeorgeWBushGOP
I recall an edition of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" that asked the question (Which show was a spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family). Maude was one of the multiple choice questions but was the wrong answer. It seemed to be a spinoff but was not a direct spinoff I suppose. Most certainly the character was based on the Maude Character.



It was explained in a 1974 Jet Magazine that Good Times was not a spinoff of Maude because the show was based on Eric Monte's life growing up in Chicago. That's why show was based in the city of Chicago. Eric Monte was the creator of Good Times.

Originally posted by GeorgeWBushGOP
I recall an edition of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" that asked the question (Which show was a spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family). Maude was one of the multiple choice questions but was the wrong answer. It seemed to be a spinoff but was not a direct spinoff I suppose. Most certainly the character was based on the Maude Character. so WHAT WAS THE ANSWER???

*kills self - doesn't get million dollars*

Oops. the correct answer was checking in. Sorry to keep you in suspense.

Originally posted by GeorgeWBushGOP
Oops. the correct answer was checking in. Sorry to keep you in suspense.


I'm conident that CHECKING IN was the only spinoff of a spinoff in TV History

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
THEY ARE WRONG!!!!

LOL LOL LOL I hate it to you SOl, but it is! LOL. Guys for those of you who are not familiar with the history between some of us on this baord, we have been debating about this spinoff thing for almost 2 years. Shameful, huh? I also took a look at TV Land's African American's in TV and Ron Glass the announcer said Good Times was a Maude Spinoff. :lol: :lol: :lol: Excuse me for a moment....................










AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

Originally posted by ThomasE
LOL LOL LOL I hate it to you SOl, but it is! LOL. Guys for those of you who are not familiar with the history between some of us on this baord, we have been debating about this spinoff thing for almost 2 years. Shameful, huh? I also took a look at TV Land's African American's in TV and Ron Glass the announcer said Good Times was a Maude Spinoff. :lol: :lol: :lol: Excuse me for a moment....................










AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!





A new member confirmed that GT was not a spinoff. He said he was watching Who wants to be a millonare and the question was what show was the only spinoff of a spinoff and the answer was.............CHECKING IN, a spinoff of the Jeffersons

It's a spinoff as clear as day...really clear.

Originally posted by Benson
Benson was a spin off of Soap but he never return to Soap or anyone other than Jessica Tate came to visit Benson in his new home and new state.

Benson did pay another visit to Jessica in the hospital in 1980 when he thought that she was going to die but she did pull through.

Sometimes things are reworked when characters are spun-off into their own shows. It's been decided that Laverne & Shirley is a spin-off of Happy Days. I couldn't agree more. But when Laverne DeFazio and Shirley Feeney made their debut on Happy Days, they were not nearly as poor as they were on their own show, and they were more sexual and confident on Happy Days than they ever were on Laverne & Shirley. A big enough inconsistency, yes? And yet, Laverne & Shirley is definitely a spin-off of Happy Days.

TVSitcomAnalyzer, if you want to continue to argue that Good Times is not a spin-off of Maude, then so be it. But clearly, if the show Maude never existed, then neither would Good Times. To me, the consistencies between the Florida Evans that existed in both shows far outweigh the inconsistencies. But I have to ask you this, why is it so darn important to you whether people regard it as a spin-off? I mean who cares?

No offense pal, as I'm sure you have a full life (or I hope you do), but you make yourself look awfully odd getting so worked up about something that none of us wakes up worrying about in the morning. You kind of look like you're anal retentive and that you have way too much time on your hands. I know I have more important things to concern myself with...

Ed

Originally posted by Edster2973
Sometimes things are reworked when characters are spun-off into their own shows. It's been decided that Laverne & Shirley is a spin-off of Happy Days. I couldn't agree more. But when Laverne DeFazio and Shirley Feeney made their debut on Happy Days, they were not nearly as poor as they were on their own show, and they were more sexual and confident on Happy Days than they ever were on Laverne & Shirley. A big enough inconsistency, yes? And yet, Laverne & Shirley is definitely a spin-off of Happy Days.

TVSitcomAnalyzer, if you want to continue to argue that Good Times is not a spin-off of Maude, then so be it. But clearly, if the show Maude never existed, then neither would Good Times. To me, the consistencies between the Florida Evans that existed in both shows far outweigh the inconsistencies. But I have to ask you this, why is it so darn important to you whether people regard it as a spin-off? I mean who cares?

No offense pal, as I'm sure you have a full life (or I hope you do), but you make yourself look awfully odd getting so worked up about something that none of us wakes up worrying about in the morning. You kind of look like you're anal retentive and that you have way too much time on your hands. I know I have more important things to concern myself with...

Ed



I'm not worked up-lol It's just a TV discussion. And you can't compare Laverne and Shirley to Good Times in this case because L&S was defintely a spinoff of Happy Days. Both shows were based in the same era, neighborhood, and there were several crossovers.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
It was already explained by the executive producer of Good Times in 1974 that it was not a spinoff because it was ONLY ONE character-(Florida) and that character was changed.

Most spinoffs only include one character spining off.
For example.... Frasier and Joey.

Originally posted by barwars
Most spinoffs only include one character spining off.
For example.... Frasier and Joey.

Good Times was created in 1971. So there is no way it can be a spinoff.

Where does it state GT was NOT a spinoff of Maude? Because there are several hundred resources I have that state that it was. And that person who stated Who Wants to a Millionaire was a blatant liar.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Where does it state GT was NOT a spinoff of Maude? Because there are several hundred resources I have that state that it was. And that person who stated Who Wants to a Millionaire was a blatant liar.


Sorry Brian, Checking In is the only spinoff of a spinoff in TV History.

says who?

Originally posted by Brian Damage
says who?


According to Who wants to be a Millionare-LOL

That episode doesn't exist.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I'm conident that CHECKING IN was the only spinoff of a spinoff in TV History

I'm not.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I'm not.


I don't know why, Jeffersons was connected to All in the Family and Checking In was connected to the Jeffersons. Two spinoffs with STRONG explanation on the Jeffersons and Florence NEW SITUATION.

All in the Family spun off Maude and Maude spunoff her maid Florida Evans into Good Times.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I'm conident that CHECKING IN was the only spinoff of a spinoff in TV History

Not really, there are others I'm pretty sure ;)

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Not really, there are others I'm pretty sure ;) Models Inc. was spun off from Melrose Place which was spun off from Beverly Hills 90210.

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Not really, there are others I'm pretty sure ;)


That's the only one. Checking IN-1981. No other spinoffs.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
That's the only one. Checking IN-1981. No other spinoffs.

Read the above post :p

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Read the above post :p


Ok then that's 2.

In a sense, I can see what you're saying. The Florida Evans character WAS created on MAUDE, but the show Good Times had already been created by Eric Monte and Mike Evans. When Lear decided to bring the show to the air in February of 1974, he used the character of Florida Evans already created on MAUDE to get it started. Her name and the actor portaraying her husband Henry(John Amos) would both be used as the parents. Only THIS show takes place in Chicago where it has been stated that they have lived for a number of years. At first I was clueless as to how you could say GOOD TIMES was not a spinoff, but once you think about it, it sort of makes sense.:wave:

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
A new member confirmed that GT was not a spinoff. He said he was watching Who wants to be a millonare and the question was what show was the only spinoff of a spinoff and the answer was.............CHECKING IN, a spinoff of the Jeffersons

That's not true anyways.

Gomer Pyle USMC is a spinoff of The Andy Griffith Show, which was a spinoff of Make Room for Daddy.

Originally posted by Jefffalan
In a sense, I can see what you're saying. The Florida Evans character WAS created on MAUDE, but the show Good Times had already been created by Eric Monte and Mike Evans. When Lear decided to bring the show to the air in February of 1974, he used the character of Florida Evans already created on MAUDE to get it started. Her name and the actor portaraying her husband Henry(John Amos) would both be used as the parents. Only THIS show takes place in Chicago where it has been stated that they have lived for a number of years. At first I was clueless as to how you could say GOOD TIMES was not a spinoff, but once you think about it, it sort of makes sense.:wave:



Exactly, and there was no need to give an explanation as to why the Evans lived in Chicago and not NY because it wasn't a spinoff. The last Evans episode of Maude has nothing to do with the first episode of Good Times.

Last Episode of Maude-Florida doesn't have to work because her husband gets a promotion at the firehouse in New York City


First Episode of Good Times-Evans on the verge of being evicted from a housing project in Chicago

So what? The stories don't always have to intersect to be a spinoff. Good Times was, is and always will be a spinoff.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Sorry Brian, Checking In is the only spinoff of a spinoff in TV History.

ohno: Nope Beverly Hills 90210 spun off Melrose Place which spun off Models, Inc :)

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Exactly, and there was no need to give an explanation as to why the Evans lived in Chicago and not NY because it wasn't a spinoff. The last Evans episode of Maude has nothing to do with the first episode of Good Times.

Last Episode of Maude-Florida doesn't have to work because her husband gets a promotion at the firehouse in New York City


First Episode of Good Times-Evans on the verge of being evicted from a housing project in Chicago

Why does an explanation have to be given, that doesn't mean it's not a spinoff if they don't give an explanation.

So was Florida ever on Maude? Yes? Then that makes it a spinoff, it would not be a spinoff if she wasn't still Florida Evans.

Sounds to me like there's evidence of it being a spinoff but yet you've set your mind against that.

Case in point, Wings isn't a spinoff of Cheers, but yet Cheers characters appeared on Wings. No Wings character were on Cheers, now that would NOT be a spinoff.

Sorry Solomon your arguments are very weak

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
ohno: Nope Beverly Hills 90210 spun off Melrose Place which spun off Models, Inc :)


Oh i always thought Checking In was the only spinoff of a spinoff

Originally posted by Angela Micelli
Why does an explanation have to be given, that doesn't mean it's not a spinoff if they don't give an explanation.

So was Florida ever on Maude? Yes? Then that makes it a spinoff, it would not be a spinoff if she wasn't still Florida Evans.

Sounds to me like there's evidence of it being a spinoff but yet you've set your mind against that.

Case in point, Wings isn't a spinoff of Cheers, but yet Cheers characters appeared on Wings. No Wings character were on Cheers, now that would NOT be a spinoff.

Sorry Solomon your arguments are very weak



Angela, I have interviewed several people who came along during that time and read hundreds of tv guides, books and magazines from the 1970's and after all my research, Good Times was not a spinoff. There was even a 1974 TV Guide promo that said-"Don't Miss the New TV Comedy" It said nothing about Maude's Former Maid makes.

Good Times would have never existed if Maude had not come on. a spinoff doesn't always make reference to it parent show or it has goofs that make it seem like it isn't a spinoff. example, Day by Day is considered a spinoff of Family Ties, but you only find that out when one characters makes reference to Steven Keaton and even then it's not clear it is a spinoff. there is also confusion about Out of the Blue being a Happy Days spinoff, because the characters were never really shown, but there was a crossover between them. spinoffs aren't always clear about their roots. but, it is clear that Good Times is a spinoff, because it uses the Florida character.

Originally posted by King Forrester
Good Times would have never existed if Maude had not come on. a spinoff doesn't always make reference to it parent show or it has goofs that make it seem like it isn't a spinoff. example, Day by Day is considered a spinoff of Family Ties, but you only find that out when one characters makes reference to Steven Keaton and even then it's not clear it is a spinoff. there is also confusion about Out of the Blue being a Happy Days spinoff, because the characters were never really shown, but there was a crossover between them. spinoffs aren't always clear about their roots. but, it is clear that Good Times is a spinoff, because it uses the Florida character.




I will give you my response in regards to Out of the Blue being a spinoff of Happy Days on the Spinoff Board. I have said enough in regards to Good Times not being a spinoff and feel i supported my argument.

Originally posted by King Forrester
Good Times would have never existed if Maude had not come on. a spinoff doesn't always make reference to it parent show or it has goofs that make it seem like it isn't a spinoff. example, Day by Day is considered a spinoff of Family Ties, but you only find that out when one characters makes reference to Steven Keaton and even then it's not clear it is a spinoff. there is also confusion about Out of the Blue being a Happy Days spinoff, because the characters were never really shown, but there was a crossover between them. spinoffs aren't always clear about their roots. but, it is clear that Good Times is a spinoff, because it uses the Florida character.



Out of the Blue is not a spinoff and my reason is on the One Year Wonder Board.

Spinoff or not, Good Times wouldn't have happened if it were not for Maude.

Originally posted by barwars
Spinoff or not, Good Times wouldn't have happened if it were not for Maude.

lol

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
lol

Why is that funny??

Originally posted by barwars
Why is that funny??


I'm laughing because your statement is false. The show was created before Maude in 1971. Back in 1971 it was called the Black Family and then changed to Good Times in late 1973 early 1974. Maude was created in 1972

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I'm laughing because your statement is false. The show was created before Maude in 1971. Back in 1971 it was called the Black Family and then changed to Good Times in late 1973 early 1974. Maude was created in 1972

That may be true.... but it wouldnt have been the Good Times we know.

Esther Rolle and John Amos most likely wouldn't have been cast together if the producers hadnt seen their chemistry on Maude.


In 1971, Jimmie Walker probably wouldnt have been JJ, and JJ was the show.

Originally posted by barwars
That may be true.... but it wouldnt have been the Good Times we know.

Esther Rolle and John Amos most likely wouldn't have been cast together if the producers hadnt seen their chemistry on Maude.


In 1971, Jimmie Walker probably wouldnt have been JJ, and JJ was the show.


Wat does Rolle and Amos have to do with the fact the show was already created way before Maude was on CBS? Just admit that GT is not connected to Maude so we can end this silly debate.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Wat does Rolle and Amos have to do with the fact the show was already created way before Maude was on CBS? Just admit that GT is not connected to Maude so we can end this silly debate.

Im saying this on a completely different level than whether its a spinoff or not.

Would GT be GT, if Rolle and Amos weren't in it?? No.
Would they have been in it if they hadn't worked together on Maude?? Probably not.

Originally posted by barwars
Im saying this on a completely different level than whether its a spinoff or not.

Would GT be GT, if Rolle and Amos weren't in it?? No.
Would they have been in it if they hadn't worked together on Maude?? Probably not.

Tht we will never know

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Angela, I have interviewed several people who came along during that time and read hundreds of tv guides, books and magazines from the 1970's and after all my research, Good Times was not a spinoff. There was even a 1974 TV Guide promo that said-"Don't Miss the New TV Comedy" It said nothing about Maude's Former Maid makes.

When NBC does advertising for Joey, they don't say check out this spinoff of Friends, they say stuff like check out the #1 new comedy from the maker of FRiends...etc. That part of your argument is weak.

Good Times was not intended as a spinoff of Maude, it only was tied to it to give it a headstart. the Florida character was popular and they needed a mid-season replacement, so they decided to take advantage of the popularity Florida and put her in this script they were taking a chance on tying it to the high rated Maude even if it didn't make sense. it was profitable to call it a spinoff. spinoffs aren't always tied to their parent show in every element like the same city. we need to agree to disagree on this subject.