I came across a website concerning missing persons. Tami Lynn Leppert's sister had posted a lot of information looking for any leads on where her sister was. She said Unsolved Mysteries had some details wrong (like the color car she was in, her clothes, etc.). She also said something I had never heard before, that Tami may have been 2 or 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. Has anyone heard this before?

The Unsolved Mysteries segment never mentioned that she was pregnant and neither did the family members that were interviewed. They just just said they felt while she was away filming a TV movie, that she saw something she was not supposed to (maybe a murder or a drug exchange) and feared for her life. She became paranoid and even asked her mother what she thought if she knew that someone was trying to kill her.

When she went for a ride with her boyfriend/friend (or friend), the segment said she was just in a skirt, t-shirt and in her bare feet. The boyfriend said after arguing, he dropped her off at a corner and she just vanished.

My opinion - The boyfriend/friend must have done something to her. He claims that he dropped her off on a corner, in broad daylight in her bare feet. Naturally, she would have called home for someone to pick her up. People would have noticed her. She couldn't have run away. She didn't have any money, just the clothes on her back.

Sorry for bumping up a thread that is so old, but the other ones about Tami Lynn are locked.

So someone is posting on another board about Tami Lynn. Claims she was a prostitute providing the Girl Friend Experience and that the whole disappearance was fabricated to distance her and that lifestyle from her mother's business.

I don't know who this person is or if they are full of crap, but it's still interesting. Post #26 is the person answering the questions I posted.

http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6763#post780305

I've always been perplexed about this one. Look, I know hindsight is 20/20, but if I am Tammy's mother, I would literally push that information out of her head and have her tell me what she saw and then alert the cops. Hey if someone is out to get you the last thing you should do is keep it a secret if they are coming after you anyways.

But this is something we will likely never find out IMO

Atomicfizz,

That person has only been a member of that message board since 5/23/2009.

From the way he's talking in circles, I think he just likes to hear himself talk, play word games, and get people confused. I think it's all BS.

If he's actually got real info or any connection to the family/case, he'd say something worth listening to. Tammy's sister has never been afraid of going anywhere she needs to online, letting people know who she is and that she's desperate to find her missing sister.

Mystery boy just likes the attention he's getting by being "mysterious", imo.

That same person has posted on these message board under the screen name "true." Yes, he claim's that Tammy is alive and a prostitute, and that her disappearance was staged because people would pay more money to be with a "missing" girl. He also claims that her mother and sister were/are in on it and that UM was used as publicity to get Tammy more business.

While this is an interesting version of events, this person comes off as such a whack-job, and deals in so many vagaries, that I'm 95% sure he's a troll. My two-sentence summary of his story required about 4 private message exchanges before he would actually come out and say what (he thought) happened. Oh, and then he claimed I was an idiot for not deducing his meaning from all of his meandering posts. If he's going to claim that Tammy's family are a bunch of sickos, then he better have the goods to back it up.

Yeah, that's pretty much what he's doing to me over there, acting like I'm the crazy one who is too stupid to comprehend his posts. In the mean time, they are completely nonsensical. Then I ask questions and get more nonsense. He acts like I have all these beliefs that I will never change. No, if someone credible comes along and tells me facts that can somehow be backed up I will change what I think. I don't know these people. How can I think anything other than what I have been presented with? The person is obviously a wack job. I like how he says one thing then you call him on it and then he backpedals too. I mean I hope more than anything she is alive and well, but why cause people (or even just Suzanne, since he thinks she is the only one who does not know about this, because her twin sister who is in law enforcement and therefore under a gag order) this pain? It's been 25 or however many years... why not come clean now if (BIG IF) this story is true, since this was put out there and there is now public interest. :rolleyes:

Oh, I just went back and read through my PM's with that guy. He also accused me of being in on the grand conspiracy too :confused:

Oh brother. Yep, he's a nut.

Just start answering all his posts by quoting ancient philosophers and throwing in some latin. ("Sic gorgiamos allos subjectatos nunc" in nonsensical fake latin that is the Addams Family motto. It means, "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us." And it's kinda fitting, since that guy is trying to be king of that message board and subdue the normal members there.)

After that, switch to asian influences and maybe go to ichingonline.net and ask it a few questions. Then post the answers to him as if they have some real meaning to the conversation.

Here's what I got after I asked the I-ching "is she alive?" and throwing the coins. (btw, I don't believe in this stuff, but if it's useful for messing with the troll's head, go for it. lol)

The I-ching told me:

A Prince who shouts orders but will not walk among his people may as well try to command the four winds.

A playful Zephyr dances and delights beneath indulgent Heaven and a strong, addictive temptation, is much more dangerous than it seems. (in latin: tentatio est plus periculosus = temptation is very hazardous)

I found it weird that nobody ever saw Tami walking around barefoot in the streets.

I came across a website concerning missing persons. Tami Lynn Leppert's sister had posted a lot of information looking for any leads on where her sister was. She said Unsolved Mysteries had some details wrong (like the color car she was in, her clothes, etc.). She also said something I had never heard before, that Tami may have been 2 or 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. Has anyone heard this before?

Linda Curtis filed the police report at Cocoa Beach Police department, where it and the Court House is walking distance from the glass bank.

Linda was not in the car to see where Tammy got out, but she was back in Rockledge where they were living, where she supposedly last saw Tammy. The reason she went to Cocoa Beach Police Department was because she and Tammy had previous dealings and connections with the CBPD. There was even a matter of a probation Tammy had to serve which means the police had all teh information they needed already about Tammy, though they became ignorant that day about details regarding Tammy and remain so even today.

The police report was filed out supposedly based on what Keith told Linda, but it was done by Linda non the less. It was also Linda whom had the Florida Today newspaper staff writer contact Billy Cox, whom wrote previous articles on Tammy's career as well as stories of her missing. Linda was a Talent Agent/Scout and had Galaxy (a Barbizon franchise ?) and as such she had developed contact in the industry from even back when she was a Beauty Queen (Yes Linda was a Beauty Queen and once held the title of "Miss Hav-A-Tampa".)

Anyways it was through Linda's efforts to promote missing Tami that she got a spot on Unsolved mysteries and later a improved version with a so called reinactment.

The common factor here is whos hand is behind the promotion and story line.
The story line is filled with un-named theys and what and hear-says and these all are tools of cons, leaving the viewing public to make believe to fill in the blanks.

There is a lot people who do not know Tammy or Linda of Wing , etc... that have said plenty that is not true and denied anything the goes against the promoted story line.

Walter Lebowitz is a disbarred Florida Lawyer but he is where Tammy went upon leaving the Scarface set. Point is they had consultation from a person educated in the law and its manipulation. He was disbarred in the 70's as you can find with an internet search.

The police are under a gag order as the vanishing act was planned and they (Tammy and her mother and co.) went through legal means to get the gag order (as Walter would had advised them to do). Tammy even obtained evidence of sanity per the judges order (and since Linda herself delt with mental institutes she knew what was needed and how to get it.)

Suzanne and her twin sister Sandra were adopted out at around age one, as this was during a time when Linda was dealing with a mental institute as a patient and not believe to be able to take care of the twins. Suzanne claims to have never met Tammy or Linda though Sandra is or was a member of Law Enforcement and as such she is bound by the same gag order and as such you will never hear from Sandra on this matter.

To believe what is promoted from the unsolved mysteries episodes is to believe who?
Linda, as all the material unsolved mysteries is based on was generated by ....Linda.

The Police know Linda lied about a lot of things.... But they are under a gag order.

The promotion itself is an intentional mystery and misdirection. Pretty much the promotion of teh exact opposite of what really happened and where viewers might look.

Poor innocent missing child (Linda initially tried to promote Tammy as being 17, not an adult, when she vanished - though the police had probation information showing otherwise). Tammy as a call girl is the opposite of poor innocent child and as the police are under a gag order, she is not really missing though she did get an identity change and probably why Keith gave her $300 and Tammy wanted him to take her down south Florida (Walters place to pick up the new ID and pay him).

There are a lot of people who do not know Tammy but from only the media. They have nothing to contribute to the honesty of what happened. But there are those of us who did know Tammy, family and friends and what accumulation of information has come from these people, supports a planned vanishing act and prostitution, even prior to the vanishing act. From fantasizing and thinking about doing so as a kid to first hand experience of those who were played, deceived in order to build momentum of the danger story.

Why? Simply because there was a need to separate Tammys call girl career from Lindas Child based talent business in the publics eyes.

Linda later got recognition from Life magazine for being one of the countries top Child Talent agents/scouts. This could not have happened had the truth been known.

While there is the general public that may have resistance to the hard reality of what happened, I'm certain that within the show business industry there are those who would not be so supprised.

As a comparison base of what the media can promote and the general public believe.
Perhaps someday we will find WMD in Iraq and that in comparison to this matter?

As an example fo Linda Curtis promotional talent, She managed to get a show by the name "Real People" to do a segment on Wing. Of those you will see in the segment are Wings father, Patrick Flanagan whom himself is a notable person and his then girl friend, Suzanne Strausberg (Lee Strausberg daughter. For those who do not know, Lee is well known for training actors and IIRC, method acting). As a piece of trivia, in that segment there is a pencil drawing of Wing, drawn by myself and based on a photo of Wing that was in a Galaxy talent catalog.

It is not unreasonable to believe Tammy herself may very well have participated and be in online promotions of the cover story and even message threads. Even here.

This calculation is based on a matter of mysterious calls that number far beyond the wrong number excuse that friends and family have received over the years and believed to be from Tammy. For her to be doing that, she'd likely be online too. And in hindsight there are those who might even believe she was doing so at times under the guise of Suzanne. Perhaps and likely even through Suzannes online accounts.

And that would be fitting of teh practice of promoting the opposite of what is, how?

Oh, I just went back and read through my PM's with that guy. He also accused me of being in on the grand conspiracy too :confused:

LOL me too.

I found it weird that nobody ever saw Tami walking around barefoot in the streets.

Apparently she was not barefoot. It was a mistake by UM.

But I do agree that it seems like an amazing coincidence that she just happened to run into Joe P. Serialkiller without first stepping into some building or being seen walking along the street.

While I disagree with that nut's prostitute theory. I do believe it is not
out of the question that Tammy may have been raped at some point at that party.
Or was coerced into doing "tricks" for movie bigshots or criminals that were associated with movie execs.

Rape. Maybe that's why she flipped out and couldn't tell anyone :(

I remember when I first read of Tiffany Session's disappearance. I thought of so many other young women who just disappeared in Fla that decade and remain missing. So many strikingly beautiful young women. This is only a partial list of teens or twenty somethings missing in the 80's from Fl who remain missing. The list of murdered teens and twenty somethings is pages and pages long

Rosario Gonzales, http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gonzales_rosario.html
Beth Kenyon,
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kenyon_elizabeth.html
Tammy Lynn Leppert,
http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/bicaremissingpersonscoldcases
Carol Elaine Donn
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1087253&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
Ellen Akers
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=11276
Barbara Jean Barkley
http://www.pinellas-park.com/Departments/Police/cold_case_file.asp
Diana Harris
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/harris_diana.html

Peggy Sue Houser
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/houser_peggy.html
Robyn Adler
http://charleyproject.org/cases/a/adler_robyn.html
Charlotte Doles ,
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/person/viewMissingPerson-92947.a
Shari Lynn Farner .
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/person/viewMissingPerson-191799.a
Darlene Webb ,
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=4223
Linda Kay Carroll .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=11153
Tinze Lucinda Huels .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=10495
Kaycee Lemire .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=11286&st=0
Colleen Emily Orsborn .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=11199
Angela Loraine Westberry .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=7542
Carol Leigh Woolsoncroft .
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=7524
Billie Jean Hall
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=13267
Martha Jean Lambert
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=11896
Virgina Joyce Wilson
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=7528
Angela Renae Ambrocio
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=4743&st=0
Tavia Elizabeth Bailey
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=3286
Sheri Lynn Swims
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/swims_sheri.html
Cindy Lee Smith
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=2403
Shiela Dinese Williams
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=7529
Heidi Ann Zampell
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=7482
Michelle Louise Harley
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=14140&st=0
Deborah Kim Green
http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/index.php?showtopic=42201&st=0&

Apparently she was not barefoot. It was a mistake by UM.

But I do agree that it seems like an amazing coincidence that she just happened to run into Joe P. Serialkiller without first stepping into some building or being seen walking along the street.

While I disagree with that nut's prostitute theory. I do believe it is not
out of the question that Tammy may have been raped at some point at that party.
Or was coerced into doing "tricks" for movie bigshots or criminals that were associated with movie execs.

Rape. Maybe that's why she flipped out and couldn't tell anyone :(

That's a great theory, Mastermind. Countless rapes go unreported becuase the victims are either too scared, humiliated or both. It would also explain her strange behavior. Such a traumatic experience would torment her mentally, and she might have invisioned the rapist following her all the way back home.

This is a very interesting and troubling case. I'm certain that there are a lot of facts that were either false or not disclosed by UM, as evidenced by the fact that Tammy was not barefoot at the time of her disappearance. But the rape theory sounds very plausible, especially considering how Tammy changed after coming back from a party.

Apparently she was not barefoot. It was a mistake by UM.

But I do agree that it seems like an amazing coincidence that she just happened to run into Joe P. Serialkiller without first stepping into some building or being seen walking along the street.

While I disagree with that nut's prostitute theory. I do believe it is not
out of the question that Tammy may have been raped at some point at that party.
Or was coerced into doing "tricks" for movie bigshots or criminals that were associated with movie execs.

Rape. Maybe that's why she flipped out and couldn't tell anyone :(

This case has fascinated me for the past day. I have read the exchanges between timothy rue and suzanne for a while now. Everything is just so darn bizarre in this case.

I wish Timothy Rue didn't come across so strong. It detracts away from his credibility and makes himself sort of nutty. WIth that said, he says somethings that I've come to think of as true. Watching the UM segment, I felt she met with foul play. one thing that was never clarified to me is tim's relaitonship with tammy. was he a boyfriend?

However seeing the banter between the two as well as other posts. This Tim Rue guy might have a point. There are been posts and other independent sources that have seem to corroborated what he said. For example, there was a matt wingo from another board that had to shut down the tammy thread due to suzanne acting bizzarre. it appears that did in fact happen. I dont know if it was on this site as well where a poster did try to attempt to show some evidence that tammy did in fact check out of a mental institution a few weeks after her reported missing.

I mean who exactly is suzanne. I know she is tammy's half sister who was given up for adoption. one strange thing about this is that we do not hear anyone else besides suzanne looking for her. To me, that is strange. Usually the entire family unites to find. In so many heated conversations, i have yet to see anyone of her other relatives say anything. Usually when someone is missing like this entire familes and communities and friends come out and do something. I find that somewhat strange as well.

i dont think she met foul play, i mean in broad daylight no one saw anything?

and what is up with keith's ex wife posting about keith trying to kill her and him saying things about tammy.

I'm just so baffled by this case. I feel like she did leave on her own volition though. any thoughts guys?

mastermind said this in a different thread phanekim i thought he made a lot of sense.

Theres's a chance she could be alive for a couple of reasons. The fact that she seemed to want to convince her mother that she was well enough to leave the house unsupervised leans toward a type of plan to leave.

There is also the pregnancy issue, which could have convinced her to leave.

Also the fact that being in Florida, she's not that far from leaving US territory.

If she left to live somewhere in Latin America, she could stay out of sight indefinitely.

In regards to missing persons you can classify them in these categories
1. Runaways
2. Fugitives
3. Disorientated Individuals/Mentally Ill
4. Murders missing the bodies
5. Abductions

I think the key to most of these unsolved missing persons cases is determining which category to put the individual in.

Runaways are only trying to avoid being found by specific individuals (family, friends, etc...) they are not necessarily trying to avoid the law. They'll usually only do whats necessary within the law. They still use their social security number even the real name at times. Runaways usually make preperations for their departure(take money, sometimes say goodbye, quit jobs)

Fugitives are actively trying to avoid being found by the law. They are potentially constantly moving and using fake aliases.

Disorientated people are not trying to run away from anyone. If anything they are trying desparately to be found and find out who they are!! They are only traveling or acting out of basic survival. They are not trying to run to the border or hide. They usually will go directly to police, doctors, shelters and other authorities to find out their identity or get help. Those peoplealso are trying to help find that persons identity.

Murders without bodies are still murder cases. You have suspects, potential witnesses to the act, POIs, potential crime scenes. You just don;t have the body. People usually don't just disappear without prior motivation or history that would lead them to runaway.

Abductions involve another party that is trying to prevent the victim from leaving by any means necessary. The victim will only be kept alive as long as he/she has use to he abductor. Sexual abductions usually end in murder. Kidnappers will usually always contact in order to get their ransom demands. Child or amorous abductions(abductions with the intent to marry the victim) are cases were the victim will usually be kept alive for an indefinite time period.

The problem with Tammy Lynn Leppert is that she could fit all 5 categories. It's very likely she may have runaway, been abducted, murdered, is disorientated or is running away from the law.

The thing is UM doesn't give much information as someone say the police or her close circle has.

one thing i've picked up just reading the banter between suzanne and tim on several sites is that they really do know the situation better than us.

i mean its in my nature to let things rest...and the police seem to already (on the UM clip) be on the idea she left on her own volition.

I just find it amazing that there are a lot of people posting and getting into passionate discussions about her who also are linked to her revealing tidbits.

One thing that has been proposed is serial killer. Thing is serial killers , unless somehow linked to the victim, do not necessarily take steps to hide the body. So either she is deceased by foul play from someone close to her or she has left and not wanted to be found.

i mean i am just a UM fanatic who is just curious but I just have questions. I don't get so many things to this case. Yet, this poster on the other sites, timothy rue proposes a somewhat feasible proposition. if he didn't come across as so emotional and so defensive, I think there might be some credence to what he's been saying.

I have a lot of questions as just a curious person but the parties that do seem to be in the know ...their actions just baffle me.

One thing that has been proposed is serial killer. Thing is serial killers , unless somehow linked to the victim, do not necessarily take steps to hide the body. So either she is deceased by foul play from someone close to her or she has left and not wanted to be found.



Actually some serial killers do go to great lengths to hide their victims. There are still victims of Christopher Wilder, for example, that have yet to be found...and that was when he was on the run. I don't believe they have found all of Ted Bundy's victims either. Serial killers come in all shapes, sizes and MO's. South Florida was rife with them in the eighties as well. Earlier in this thread I posted a list of young teens or twenty somethings that remain missing from south florida in the 80's. The list of those found murdered is much much longer.

This case made headlines aplenty when it first happened and repeatedly in the years after. Tammy's mother was pretty good with the press and had a friend in Billy Cox, the reporter who did many of the articles. This Tim fellow is mentioned in none of them but Linda's love for her daughter and Rick Adam's love for his friend shine through.

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One thing that has been proposed is serial killer. Thing is serial killers , unless somehow linked to the victim, do not necessarily take steps to hide the body. So either she is deceased by foul play from someone close to her or she has left and not wanted to be found.


Actually some serial killers do go to great lengths to hide their victims. There are still victims of Christopher Wilder, for example, that have yet to be found...and that was when he was on the run. I don't believe they have found all of Ted Bundy's victims either. Serial killers come in all shapes, sizes and MO's. South Florida was rife with them in the eighties as well. Earlier in this thread I posted a list of young teens or twenty somethings that remain missing from south florida in the 80's. The list of those found murdered is much much longer.

It should also be pointed out that she could have been killed by just some lonely guy who took a liken to her and things got out of hand. He doesn't necessarily have to be a serial killer.

Here are my follow up questions then...

If there was a lonely guy who took a liking to her and the source of her outbursts. Why didn't they file anything to the cops. I know that if I was getting harassment from someone I would have contacted the cops and the cops would have investigated it more...tracking mail/phone calls.

As for serial killer, from my really realy amatuer web sleuthing, because they are not linked to the victim in any way, do they not actively hide the body. Could bodies/victim not found be more a function of not being found rather than an active attempt at disguising it which makes it more likely for body to be found? So if tammy had met foul play at the hands of a serial killer we might have just not found the body?

ANother thing I do not get is why you would get into a car without ID of any sort or your purse. If you were scared for yourlife, why would you ask to get dropped out of the car. If tammy was as traumatized as she was, why would she even go out so shortly after getting released from the hospital. I've had a friend close one who had a nervous breakdown it took her a hwile to get the courage to get out.

another thing I want to ask is who is timothy rue. I know suzanne said tim was not close to tim but the other sources of this forum said tim was close to her. Who exactly is he?

and about a single poster who was posting about info about tammy visiting the shrink after her disappearance according to court files. What was her deal? If I was a relative of tammy i would think this is a great lead. I didn't quite understand suzanne's reaction to that because I do not think that poster was saying anything rude.

EDIT: this is an add on...this is more to do with mastermind's theory. I do think leaving on her own will and serial killer are feasible options.

I will say this and then I do not want to say any more.The LE and FDLE say He was not a friend of tammy's and did not know her real well and does not know anything.I work directly with the CBPD and the FDLE.We called them in many years ago.They use me as a family contact.We are the ones who have done the work to find tammy.There has been some people rude and disrespectful to me and the police did not like it.The police and the FDLE do not think I have acted bizzare in any way at all.They work with me and have for many years now.There is not alot known really out there on tammy.I do know the CBPD and the FDLE are reivestigating her case.So if you know something please contact the CBPD or the FDLE or me concerning any thing on tammy.

edited because of spelling

another thing I want to ask is who is timothy rue. I know suzanne said tim was not close to tim but the other sources of this forum said tim was close to her. Who exactly is he?


I'm assuming you're referring to the person who posted here was under the name "true." I wouldn't go too far down this guy's rabbit hole until he starts backing up his claims with solid proof. It's very easy for him to sit here and say that we're all so naive and that he's been in touch with Tammy, but he's never produced one bit of evidence that she's actually alive and prostituting herself. And the minute someone demands facts, then he accuses then of being part of the conspiracy. If Tammy was for sale and being marketed as herself as he claims, she would be relatively easy to find for someone who posed as a buyer, right? It's all smoke and mirrors and the convenience of internet anonymity at this point.

suzanne,

have you talked to her family and friends at the time...like rick on the UM segment? What did they say? I believe you wern't close to them intiial but i think now you are?

Also, why did the police state on the UM segment that they talked to friends and those friends said that she was having family problems and was thinking about leaving.

Was there contact between debbie and tammy as tim stated a few weeks after? debbie is tammy's sister...and since you guys possibly in contact, is this true or fabricated by tim?

sorry if i getting too into it but this case is very fascinating...i'm sure most posters would agree. besides the patsy write strychnine case....this one is up there.

Her family and friends have not heard from her.No one was around tammy for many years before she came up missing.Tammy tried to call a few people.She never got in contact with any one.I have talked to pretty much all family members and friends about 14 years ago.My ex husband and I have done extensive investigation with the FDLE and the CBPD.They use me as a family contact.They thought she ran away at first.They tell me now no one has heard from her.There is not much to discuss and I please really do not want to any more.The FDLE and CBPD are investigating her case again and do not appear to like tammy on these message boards any more.So please just call the FDLE or CBPD if you know something on my sister tammy.

It should also be pointed out that she could have been killed by just some lonely guy who took a liken to her and things got out of hand. He doesn't necessarily have to be a serial killer.

Not only might she not have encountered a serial killer, but the possibilities are literally endless. She could have been killed and already found as an Jane Doe. Believe me, all Jane Does are not listed publically. In fact, if you watch the FLUIDDB site, you will see cases being added regularly, some thirty and forty years old that no one has ever heard of before.
There is also the possibility that Tami ran away, and met with foul play later. There is the possibility that Tami is alive and well and living anonymously somewhere. What seems most unlikely to me is that Tammy ran away to be a prostitute. That makes no sense to me at all...

suzanne,

Was there contact between debbie and tammy as tim stated a few weeks after? debbie is tammy's sister...and since you guys possibly in contact, is this true or fabricated by tim?

.

I believe I have read Debbie saying that a call was taken by Debbie's ex husband that he later told Debbie was Tammy. This was supposed to have happened shortly after her disappearance, but I don't know how accurate that was...how well the ex husband would have recognized Tammy's voice, the likelihood of some prank call given the publicity over Tammy's disappearance, etc

I'm assuming you're referring to the person who posted here was under the name "true." I wouldn't go too far down this guy's rabbit hole until he starts backing up his claims with solid proof. It's very easy for him to sit here and say that we're all so naive and that he's been in touch with Tammy, but he's never produced one bit of evidence that she's actually alive and prostituting herself. And the minute someone demands facts, then he accuses then of being part of the conspiracy. If Tammy was for sale and being marketed as herself as he claims, she would be relatively easy to find for someone who posed as a buyer, right? It's all smoke and mirrors and the convenience of internet anonymity at this point.

ITA

There is not much really known on tammy's disappearance or much to really discuss.The CBPD and FDLE are looking into all this again.So please call the CBPD or the FDLE or me if you know anything on my sister Tammy.Here is one of the family websites I made for my sister Tammy if you know something.I also try to help other missing persons and especially unidentified John and Jane Does.

http://wwwgeocitescomfindtammy-suzannec4444.blogspot.com/

Edited to add something and spelling.

I watched this segment again recently. I think when she went to the party she went to w/ her friends that weekend, she tripped some LSD or some other acid that fried her brain. Not completely fried, but enough to screw with her head. She was still a few fries short of a Happy Meal the day she took off. Possibly she encountered foul play of some sort while she was traveling or she's just a dead Jane Doe somewhere in a grave and/or morgue.

Some acids in certain concentrations, especially ones that have fillers put in can do a number on someone. There have been cases of people who tripped on LSD and ended up institutionalized because their wiring was permanently screwed up.

I watched this segment again recently. I think when she went to the party she went to w/ her friends that weekend, she tripped some LSD or some other acid that fried her brain. Not completely fried, but enough to screw with her head. She was still a few fries short of a Happy Meal the day she took off. Possibly she encountered foul play of some sort while she was traveling or she's just a dead Jane Doe somewhere in a grave and/or morgue.

Some acids in certain concentrations, especially ones that have fillers put in can do a number on someone. There have been cases of people who tripped on LSD and ended up institutionalized because their wiring was permanently screwed up.

That's very much a possibility

1.Wouldn't the doctors notice something like that when they examined her? I'm just asking, i don't really know the answer.

2.Would an LSD or drug trip last that long and that sporadically? I mean she was getting better to a point, wouldn't that indicate that she was getting past the effects.

Keep in mind that what exactly caused Tammy to go nuts is only relevant if you believe that the people who caused that ailment were the one's that contributed to her disappearance.

The object of this case is to find Tammy, not necessarily explain her actions.

I will say this and then I do not want to say any more.The LE and FDLE say He was not a friend of tammy's and did not know her real well and does not know anything.I work directly with the CBPD and the FDLE.We called them in many years ago.They use me as a family contact.We are the ones who have done the work to find tammy.There has been some people rude and disrespectful to me and the police did not like it.The police and the FDLE do not think I have acted bizzare in any way at all.They work with me and have for many years now.There is not alot known really out there on tammy.I do know the CBPD and the FDLE are reivestigating her case.So if you know something please contact the CBPD or the FDLE or me concerning any thing on tammy.

Thanks, Susan.This does answer some nagging questions I have had.

Suzanne has committed libel against me and this board has shown itself to be a willing accessory to that crime.

Perhaps she'd like to name the officers she claims told her such things and perhaps they can prove one way of the other what she claims they have said. Of course the officers originally on the case are probably retired by now. So how would those on it now know anything at all. They are as dumb now as they were back then, because there is a court gag order.

a link to Tammy's last known whereabouts

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=468+N+Atlantic+Ave+Cocoa+Beach&sll=28.350618,-80.60894&sspn=0.117534,0.222988&gl=au&g=N+Atlantic+Ave,+Cocoa+Beach,+FL,+USA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=468+N+Atlantic+Ave,+Cocoa+Beach,+Brevard,+Florida+32931,+United+States&ll=28.32691,-80.609334&spn=0.001837,0.003484&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=28.326826,-80.609645&panoid=l0u61Q4SDaDE2mNH3F8scg&cbp=12,276.77,,0,2.99

Anyone know how far this is from her home?

I have to imagine that if she wanted to go home, she had enough money for a cab ride back, home. Heck maybe even a busride.

[QUOTE=Mastermind]Anyone know how far this is from her home?

Cocoa Beach is due east of Rockledge across the two bays.

Cocoa Beach is due east of Rockledge across the two bays.

So it is a considerable distance for a cab ride.

Makes you wonder why the guy was wiling to drive her that far, why he didn't just drop her off earlier.

That argument must have been long and considerable, and NOT just about drivving to Ft Lauderdale.

very confusing, I think that this guy got off lightly.

The theories I am going at in this case are in this order:

1. The man in the car was indeed her boyfriend (and father of her child) and he murdered her during an argument and dumped her body. This argument may have been about getting an abortion.

2. Tammy decided to lam it and leave her family. Add that to her having a child to take care off that would hurt her acting career, this became an easy decision for her. The threats against her may have been real or a reaction to the Hollywood life.

3. Tammy left that morning to get an abortion in Ft Lauderdale. When her boyfriend refused to to pay and take her, Tammy decided to go on and get the abortion on her own. Two scenarios may have occured:
a. Tammy hitchhiked and was killed by psychopath or a person with amorous intentions
b. A Judith Hymes scenario may have occured where she died in a complication.

Is it ethical to still discuss this topic since Tammy's sister said previously law enforcement doesn't like discussions like this.

However, I wonder what the money laundering angle of this case was.... I thought the producers/directors had some connections to organized crime???:confused:

However, I wonder what the money laundering angle of this case was.... I thought the producers/directors had some connections to organized crime???

That may have prompted Tammy to wig out. But I don't believe the theory that they killed her for this reason.

How would they know that Tammy was going out that day or she would be abandoned?

Is it ethical to still discuss this topic since Tammy's sister said previously law enforcement doesn't like discussions like this.



How could it be unethical when none of us (I hope) are official police investigators on the case? All of us here are simply speculating based on information that Police have voluntarily released about the case.

The only reason I paid more than average attention to this case is because of that guy, Timothy Rue, who says that Tammy's disappearance was a cover for her call girl career. There is a long thread on one of the UM episiodes where people have "debated" him, so to speak (I use the term "debate" lightly because his responses seemed similar to that of a child constantly repeating "I know you are, but what am I").
His user name is "thr33s3as", which if you search for "threeseas.net" you will find his website, where he talks about this thing he calls "abstraction physics." I always thought that a physics abstraction paper was more or less a concise summary of your science project. In this case, it's more or less a declaration of a new and ground-breaking type of software he invented, with no real data showing how he invented it or how he plans to develop it. If reading his bizarre posts on Tammy Leppert aren't enough for you, I suggest you check it out.
Anyway, it looked to me like this guy knows what he's talking about to some extent. He does a lot of name dropping, and the fact that he's been pointed out by an involved party as "that guy from Georgia who was obsessed with Tammy" shows that there may be some truth to his knowledge of the family.
Check it out, it would be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.

-Jarek

The CBPD and FDLE are disgusted with him and other people who were rude to me and disrespectful to Tammy on a few boards.They say he is no friend of Tammy and does not know anything.He learns all this and tries to put himself in the story.you can call them LE and the FDLE and they will back up what I say.I am the family contact they have always used. I.He is not correct at anything here.It's just what he thinks with no proof to back it up.He sounds very disgruntled towards Tammy like he is trying to cut her down.It's sad and I find it very strange in my opinion.This is the crap the CBPD and FDLE does not want any more on boards.He and other people have not put up any proof(facts )to back up what they say and LE says it is not correct.LE and the FDLE does feel this is jepordising the investigation.They are actively reinvestigating my sisters case again.They do not like tammy on these boards any more.I had no trouble from any untill about a year ago.The police and FDLE have shut down other threads on other boards and they removed them.the CBPD detective Cooper 321-868-3326 and agent Bliss with the FDLE really only want for people to contact them if you know anything.I think they are sick of this.That is why I am not writting alot on any more boards.They are not working with any other boards on Tammy's case.You are to call only the police.Please call them if you know anything on my sister Tammy.

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Well, first of all, I want to make it clear that I do not want to show any disrespect.
I guess there are two ways that I could possibly understand this Tim guy.

I agree, he seems like a nut. Just like you say- someone who knows nothing and is able to fake it well enough to engage others in debate about Tammy's true fate. However, from what I've read, there is only one noteworthy discrepency in his story, regarding his relationship to Tammy.
He first says "Linda offered me Tammy" but later downplays the notion that they were ever romanticly entangled. Now if the age shown on his profile is accurate, he would have been in his mid to late twenties when Tammy was in her teens, meaning a relationship in the time frame discussed would have been illegal. So when he was later asked why he didn't report this knowledge that she was being prostituted at an early age, he said something like "I didn't see it" - yet by his own admission, she was "offered" to him.

Now, because I only find one significant discrepency does not mean I believe him- he is obviously a few bricks short of a load. But the lack of contradictions seems to indicate that he has had this story in the works for quite a while, as if it has been thought out. Also, I think his dedication to making replies to everyone who posts on the topic, whether they are simply expressing sympathy or whether they are giving their two scents, is significant and should be questioned. Have the police ever questioned this man during their investigation? In my opinion, it looks as though they have reason so to do.
On one hand, he could be a random whacko with too much time on his hands. But on the other hand, he could be someone who had something to do with her disappearance, is obsessed, and wants to create an alternative story for what really happened.
When a bunch of people come together in amiable discussion over the matter and someone bursts in with rudeness and wild accusations, then he/she immediately stands out, especially in this case. Tim is trying his hardest to persuade people that he is the only one who speaks the truth about Tammy, but his lack of credentials raises suspicion. If that suspicion turns into a lead for the case, then how can these message boards be harmful?

I think it is unfortunate that people can be so rude and disrepectful regarding a missing persons case, but these message boards are an excercise in free speech. I do not think it is up to law enforcement, local or federal, to mitigate whether discussions such as these should or should not be carried out.
It may be the only way to get to the truth.

-Jarek

I do not think you are being rude.I do thank you.The LE and FDLE have every right to not want a thread if it's not helping to find Tammy.This is the FDLE and CBPD case.Not ours.They have the final say so in everything.Apparantly they had the power to completly pull a thread off one board and delete it and they did.They are the boss.They want us to call in a lead on Tammy if someone knows something.not write it on a board.We are not trained or qualified.They are.There has been rudeness to me and to Tammy from another board and him.I never had anyone being rude to me here or any board untill about a year ago.Yes,the police are very disgusted with all this.They are sick of all this.If there is any criminal activity it should be handled by the police.Not put on a message board with no facts to back anything up.It's the way things are being said.People came over here awhile ago and swore up and down I wasn't who I said.They said I was Tammy,ect...It was just real sick and ********.I was cut down and treated very badly.I did not appreciate it at all.The FDLE and police perceived it as rude and disrespectful and they just don't want it any more.The police,Everyone already knew who I was.It was again verified who I am not long ago.We called the FDLE in 1997.I have always been the family contact because we are the ones who have done the work to find her.The FDLE and police did shut some of those threads and boards down and removed them and locked others.I think the police want to put her information on there and to call them if you know anything.They are deffinantly tired of all the discussions.There is not much known on Tammy's case.I do know talking to LE the accusation very rudely made about Tammy being a prositute never lead to what happened to Tammy.It just sounded so disgruntled the way he said it.Like he was trying to belittle her and So what if she was a prostitute.I've seen no facts of this.Who cares.There are still alot of people who love Tammy very much and want to know she is ok.I just think the police and I just want her thread to be respectable and not hinder or disrespect anyone or Tammy.I told the police I would not talk on boards any more.I just want the threads respectable so people will want to look for her.Tammy deserves that.I think we just need to let the police and FDLE handle this now.I care about her very much.

Well, first of all, I want to make it clear that I do not want to show any disrespect.
I guess there are two ways that I could possibly understand this Tim guy.

I agree, he seems like a nut. Just like you say- someone who knows nothing and is able to fake it well enough to engage others in debate about Tammy's true fate. However, from what I've read, there is only one noteworthy discrepency in his story, regarding his relationship to Tammy.
He first says "Linda offered me Tammy" but later downplays the notion that they were ever romanticly entangled. Now if the age shown on his profile is accurate, he would have been in his mid to late twenties when Tammy was in her teens, meaning a relationship in the time frame discussed would have been illegal. So when he was later asked why he didn't report this knowledge that she was being prostituted at an early age, he said something like "I didn't see it" - yet by his own admission, she was "offered" to him.

Now, because I only find one significant discrepency does not mean I believe him- he is obviously a few bricks short of a load. But the lack of contradictions seems to indicate that he has had this story in the works for quite a while, as if it has been thought out. Also, I think his dedication to making replies to everyone who posts on the topic, whether they are simply expressing sympathy or whether they are giving their two scents, is significant and should be questioned. Have the police ever questioned this man during their investigation? In my opinion, it looks as though they have reason so to do.
On one hand, he could be a random whacko with too much time on his hands. But on the other hand, he could be someone who had something to do with her disappearance, is obsessed, and wants to create an alternative story for what really happened.
When a bunch of people come together in amiable discussion over the matter and someone bursts in with rudeness and wild accusations, then he/she immediately stands out, especially in this case. Tim is trying his hardest to persuade people that he is the only one who speaks the truth about Tammy, but his lack of credentials raises suspicion. If that suspicion turns into a lead for the case, then how can these message boards be harmful?

I think it is unfortunate that people can be so rude and disrepectful regarding a missing persons case, but these message boards are an excercise in free speech. I do not think it is up to law enforcement, local or federal, to mitigate whether discussions such as these should or should not be carried out.
It may be the only way to get to the truth.

-Jarek


zzzz. beating dead horse. you will never get the truth because both sides will start saying crazy things then get the topic closed. rinse and repeat.

Good to know, Phanekim. Thank you for saving me the time.

I know the police and FDLE have not thought I acted bad in anything in any way at all.They work with me on finding my sister Tammy and always have.I have done everything I can for many years to find Tammy.I am letting the CBPD and FDLE handle everything now and seeing what they can find out now.It's thier case.They are actively reinvestigating her case again.Yes,you are right.This is exactly what the CBPD and FDLE do not want any more.Any more fighting.There are not two sides.The police work with me.Not with them or any message boards.I had no problems with anyone for many years and I do not want any more problems any more and neither do the CBPD and the FDLE.Please call CBPD detective Cooper 321-868-3326 and agent Bliss with the FDLE if you know anything on my sister Tammy.

I don't remember where but i seem to remember reading on a missing website dedicated to Tammy that someone may have seen her and recognized her but she seemed to be going under another name.

Like she was trying to hide

I can say that I have had the same experiences with this fellow as Suzanne has had. I don't know about there being "sides", but you need a decoder ring, a tin foil hat, a scribe and at least three prophylactics if you are going to deal with him. Tammy deserves to be found, Suzanne deserves answers and the respect that should go along with her years-long search. If that is a side, consider me squarely there. I have known Suzanne for years, known of her search for years and she has my utmost respect.

Good to know, Phanekim. Thank you for saving me the time.

this case is actually one of the more stranger cases. i know you have actual interest in there like i used to have but like you i delved into it deeper and didn't like what i found. there was a thread about this even in here that had to be erased.

if you ask me tammy is alive and probably didn't meet foul play. as for all the other stuff tim rue is saying, i dont know. even in the UM episode, the police suggest this and also there is every indication that she probably alive.

Quite frankly its a game of dare between tim and tammy if you ask me. it appears that tim was obsessed with tammy. it appears he was pretty distraught over her disappearance. but his posts are very provactive and seem to have ounce of truth to them. They seem extreme though and i dont think it matters whether its true. I know his intention though, for years he didn't know if she was alive and he probably now knows for himself that she is alive. from what i've read this is probably why he says very extreme stuff. The only person that can really have it erased is tammy herself. by having it erased or proving it wrong she has to reveal herself. in fact, i believe this has been done. the other side could be as many as two or more that will pose as different screen names and try to discredit him from all directions. this is why its impossible to actually figure out who is actually curious because sometimes it maybe even one person or several people in collusion to start a pretend conversation over the internet to make it seem tim rue is clearly out of his mind. hence the cycle begins. the only way to break it is if there are truly interested people that stop this however they all eventualy give up cause there are many other cases out there to worry about.

i hope you stay with this forum because there are many other cases taht deserve to be talked about more than this in my opinion.

Thank you porch light.That means alot to me.I will say this.It's coming directly from the LE and FDLE and they are the ones saying he does not know anything and they are very adamant he is not a friend of Tammy.He treats Tammy very bad.In my opinion and others opinion he hears things and then puts himself in the story.He's not harassed.He went on all these boards willingly and most of these boards were not talking about him at the time.I do know he just heard not long ago Tammy being a prositute.There were no facts to back this up.He had never said anything before on this.LE and the FDLE already looked into all this.It didn't lead to anything or where she is.If she was a prostitute maybe she didn't want to do it any more.I don't think she would go right back into it like he says.That doesn't make any sense to me.The police are sick of it and so is everyone else.The FDLE wanted him to rethink whether he really saw Tammy(a year later?).He is just not correct at most of what he is saying.He is very rude and disrectful to tammy and I.I'm sick of it and your D**n right I'll call him on the crap.He and everone needs to back things up with facts.This is obnoxious.My twin sister wants nothing to do with all this and that's very smart.Every one thinks this is all sick especially for the last year people from another board and a few starting trouble.The police do not want those boards on Tammy's case now.There was no trouble any where before that.All this is very disfunctional.That is why most boards were locked or removed.There was alot of disrespect to me and Tammy.That really is not helping to find tammy.It's not.

I will say this.I just talked to Detective Cooper and They say Tammy is not found dead or alive.I believe him when he says that.He says they are going down different ave's.I don't know what he means by that.The FDLE in 1997 when we called them in said Tammy had contacted no one in years she was gone.I really don't think they would lie to me.I can't find her alive and I can't find her dead.I am still looking for her as a unidentified Jane Doe some where.so if any one has a match(I know of the ones on the doe network.So any new ones I need too)I strongly believe if she was killed it was not what she or the family was into.It was because of what she knew about someone else.someone did threaten to kill her about 2 weeks before she came up missing.Her fear was real.I'm am very much starting to believe if she is not dead she is in the witness protection program.I would like to say if someone knows where Tammy is please call the police or the FDLE.I don't want to look for her dead any more.It really has bothered me alot.I don't know what to do any more but to let the CBPD and the FDLE try to find her.

edited for spelling.corrections

I pray you find your answers, Suzanne. Tammy deserves to be found, and you all deserve some peace of mind. Keep your head up and your eyes on the prize. People who do not know what went on with the belligerents don't need to know anyway. Those who are curious nonetheless can make their own judgements by just reading this thread http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=144362&highlight=leppert

Thank you porchlight.The posters giving me a hard time were proven to be imposters from another board.The threads were reported to the CBPD and the FDLE.Friend was found not to be a friend of Tammy's and not to have been grown up with Tammy and was reported to the CBPD and the FDLE.This is the crap the police do not want any more.They are sick of all this and so am I and why threads were closed and locked or deleted.I am just going to let the CBPD and FDLE handle all this now.Please call Detective Cooper with the CBPD 321-868-3326 or Agent Bliss with the FDLE if you know anything on my sister Tammy.I pray we finally find Tammy too.

wow that was quick. like clockwork.

wow that was quick. like clockwork.
Phanekin, perhaps you are not aware of the work I do, but I have google alerts set up for dozens of missing persons cases. It is necessary for my work at porchlight. I have these alerts set up not only for the basic terms like "missing persons", "missing girl" etc. but I also have them set up for specific names of missing persons. Thus I get an alert when people start discussing Tammy Lynn Leppert. Since Suzanne is a personal friend of mine, since Suzanne and I worked together at Doe Network (where I was family liaison...hence it was my job to assist family members of missing persons), since Suzanne and I work together at Porchlight, since I have followed Tammy's case (along with my own foster sister who went missing from South Florida in the eighties as well) religiously, you can expect me to participate in conversations about her. It is not a conspiracy, though. Just a friendship and a cause very near and dear to my heart.
I own the following board http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/index.php?act=idx with ten thousand cases (missing and unidentified persons) at a minimum listed. I have several other boards covering various parts of the globe. It is something I have devoted three decades to. All information on our boards is open to any one who wishes to view the cases, no membership necessary.

Thanks for posting that old thread, porchlight. I have to admit, I didn't have the stamina to read the whole thing at once, maybe I will finish it later. From what I did read though, I was thoroughly creeped out. How did that one guy (newyorkrx) end up getting all that information on Tim Rue? Past work, career aspirations, etc. Is he a private investigator or something? The only thing that was confirmed for me was that I had read that Tim was a carpenter, and his work history corroborated that, and also pointed to a possible situation where he met Tammy and her mom building a set or filming a pegeant or something. Seems so weird that he would not want to admit that when asked. Did you guys see that photo of him? CREEPY! Seeing Tammy's photo in the background gave me chills. I almost wish I had never paid attention to this case, because the more I read, the more questions I have that will probably never be answered.
People pretending to be someone else on message boards; creepy old dudes with pictures of Tammy on their walls; adamant accusations being made 25 years after the initial incident; cryptic information and changing stories. The whole thing is too much to handle.

-Jarek

What I can't help but ponder about this case is Tammy's whereabouts. This Tim fellow alleges that Tammy is still alive and working in prostitution or something like that. If that's the case, where are all the eye witness reports of Tammy? Again, it seems hard to believe unless she works in an obscure country. The lack of sightings leads me to think that's she's most likely dead. :(

The theory regarding strong drugs could have screwed with Tammy's brain might hold some weight. It'd be interesting to find out what kind of people Tammy hung out with. They could have been involved in hardcore drugs or something like that. It was Florida in the 80's...

It was Florida in the 80's...
That sort of says it all, actually. The place was rife with drug wars, serial killers, and yet still full of those "beautiful people" and all their dreams. The list of twenty somethings who went missing from fla in just the 80's alone is mindboggling....considering the real growth had yet to come. The list of murdered is even longer.

I have one hundred persons missing from fla (of all ages) in the eighties alone listed here
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showforum=846

Thanks for posting that old thread, porchlight. I have to admit, I didn't have the stamina to read the whole thing at once, maybe I will finish it later. From what I did read though, I was thoroughly creeped out. How did that one guy (newyorkrx) end up getting all that information on Tim Rue? Past work, career aspirations, etc. Is he a private investigator or something? The only thing that was confirmed for me was that I had read that Tim was a carpenter, and his work history corroborated that, and also pointed to a possible situation where he met Tammy and her mom building a set or filming a pegeant or something. Seems so weird that he would not want to admit that when asked. Did you guys see that photo of him? CREEPY! Seeing Tammy's photo in the background gave me chills. I almost wish I had never paid attention to this case, because the more I read, the more questions I have that will probably never be answered.
People pretending to be someone else on message boards; creepy old dudes with pictures of Tammy on their walls; adamant accusations being made 25 years after the initial incident; cryptic information and changing stories. The whole thing is too much to handle.

-Jarek

Don't be too creeped out by the photo. It is quite an old one.
As for reading the whole thread...get your decoder ring and the book of runes first....you'll need the help! lol!

NewYorkx and others are EXACTLY why many family members with missing loved ones do not and will not participate on message boards. There have been so many families attacked, vilified, scrutinized, accused, libeled, stalked, etc by wingnuts on the internet. When one of those wingnuts has LE connections or a PI license, and no morals, chaos can ensue. It is a fine line to walk between curiosity and respecting someone's privacy. Some people do not even see the line however.

As for Tammy's case, there are so many possibilities. Tammy was an up and coming local "star" with great potential. I remember newspaper articles of the day covering her disappearance and her mother's search. I do not consider myself a sleuther, rather just someone who searches for missing persons, primarily within the listings of unidentified persons. So I just look for Tammy anywhere and everywhere. I do believe that she has likely met with foul play, just given the circumstances, length of time without contact, etc. But certainly there are several examples of people being found alive and well after many years. Just going on the odds though, it doesn't look good for Tammy, I fear.

Thanks for posting that old thread, porchlight. I have to admit, I didn't have the stamina to read the whole thing at once, maybe I will finish it later. From what I did read though, I was thoroughly creeped out. How did that one guy (newyorkrx) end up getting all that information on Tim Rue? Past work, career aspirations, etc. Is he a private investigator or something? The only thing that was confirmed for me was that I had read that Tim was a carpenter, and his work history corroborated that, and also pointed to a possible situation where he met Tammy and her mom building a set or filming a pegeant or something. Seems so weird that he would not want to admit that when asked. Did you guys see that photo of him? CREEPY! Seeing Tammy's photo in the background gave me chills. I almost wish I had never paid attention to this case, because the more I read, the more questions I have that will probably never be answered.
People pretending to be someone else on message boards; creepy old dudes with pictures of Tammy on their walls; adamant accusations being made 25 years after the initial incident; cryptic information and changing stories. The whole thing is too much to handle.

-Jarek

Jarek, i don't know if you are legit or not. But you are right there are a lot of people pretending to be many people on all the boards out there. Let me tell you right now you are only receiving one side of the story. Another thing i'd like to point out is that a lot of the stuff that has been said by the other side has been taken off. The POV you are seeing right now isn't as nice as it may seem.

the problem with this is you are reading very filtered information. a lot of the people tied with this case have had their personal information posted up. it has gotten nasty to the point that both sides have found out information about each other and blasted each other with alot of times false information. its really dirty and nasty. If you had followed this case and know what posts were posted without it being erased...you would have a better picture. because right now, you cant possibly. it just becomes so downright shady it even gives me the creeps.

you want a start on hearing the other pov on this?

without getting off topic why dont you ask porchlight about her foster sister. this is public information...nothing that would constitute a personal attack. why don't you ask her about that case.

why don't you ask tammy's real family members who grew up with tammy and knew her what they think and what they think of suzanne. not saying anything just posting questions.

there is another side of this story that is being squelched.

bottom line is (once you've read everything) and both sides can agree to this is that tammy left on her accord and does not want to be found. one side wants to control and ensure that no one is snooping in her life and the other side wants to stop being pestered about it cause of their association to her. whatever the case...this is why i said let it rest.

Ok,I will say this and hopefully we can just not bring all this crap up again it is not helping to find Tammy.This is what the police do not want any more.First I will say again.There are not two sides.The CBPD and FDLE work with me.Not with them or any other board.I want to clarify it is the CBPD and FDLE that deleted and shut down threads.The FDLE and CBPD told them not to be on Tammy's case.I have been out here for many years and never had a problem with any one untill then.I asked them to take Tammy off thier board because they were rude to me.They then went to try and find just any family member to go on thier board.Other people would not go.People were extremely rude and disrespectful to me and the police and FDLE did not like it.I will say again the LE and FDLE does not think I have done any thing wrong.I was not rude to any one.I should never had to be defending my self from anyone or anything.I am the family member.I have been out here on the internet and the CBPD and FDLE for about 15 years now.Why would the police let that go on like that for that long if I wasn't who I said I was.They were proven wrong.The police have always worked with me and my ex husband as the family contact and still do.This is my mother that gave birth to me.There were false alligations against me.All of them were reported to the CBPD and the FDLE and all of them were proven false.The police will verify this.I would like to clarify.I never said to not give DNA.The police and FDLE will verify it was me that suggested to them and the family to give DNA.There is just alot of things said that were not true.

There's no real family members.We are all family members,blood from the same family trying to find Tammy.I met pretty much everyone in my family but one sister about 15 years ago.My ex husband and I never heard of her out here and the police never heard of her in the police department.They would have called her back.No one in the family knew where she was and hadn't heard from her and could not tell me where she was.I talk to her daughter.Everything seems fine.I mean no disrespect.I really don't.We just hadn't heard from her any where.I do not want to fight with any one.I care for her very much.I just don't care for that board and neither do the LE and FDLE.This other board tried to cause problems that are not there with the family and the family does feel that way.That was very sad.If she watched these people disrespect me and thought that was ok I would be very hurt.I talk to other people in the family now.My twin sister and met pretty much every one in the family,uncle jimmy and others about 15 years ago and no one shunned us and no one treated us bad.I won't let any one else talk bad about them either.This is my blood family.My sister and I were told by the family and other people associated with the family that none of us were brought up with Tammy the whole time.We were all taken away pretty much one by one at a earlier age before the age of about 9,10.No one was around tammy for many years before she came up missing.Tammy apparantly called a few family and friends for awhile to see if she could live with them.Tammy's mother is my birth mother that gave birth to me and my sister and she very much wanted to know us.This is my blood family and I don't have to answer to anyone on the boards or any where and the police are not saying I do.I have worked very hard for about 15 years now to find my sister Tammy.

All the age progressions missing persons information is from me and my exhusband.I think the police just want a respectable thread for Tammy.It is not that I or the police don't want things known.First there needs to be proof and facts to back things up and not done in a way to slander Tammy,the family,or any one.If there is any criminal activity I think the FDLE and CBPD would like to handle that.Let's leave family stuff that isn't true out of all this.concentrate on the little bit of facts that are known on Tammy's disappearance to help find her.If you know any thing on my sister Tammy please contact Detective Cooper with CBPD or agent Bliss with the FDLE.Please no more fighting or bashing.It is not helping to find Tammy.I know I do not want any part of it.Please.I will continue to look for Tammy with the police untill I know if she is ok.Alot of people care very much for Tammy and just want to know if she is ok.

If Tammy left on her own.I feel she needs to be found or please just tell the police so I and other people that care do not have to look for her dead any more.I think maybe your right.We should just leave all this alone.

Edited for spelling.Corrections

I honestly believe that many of these old cases will not be solved with traditional investigative techniques. After all, if the professionals have not found these investigative leads, civilians are not likely to. Many missing persons are FOUND. however (alive or dead) by circumstance, accident and serendipitous occasions. Every pair of eyes searching is another beacon of hope for the lost. Which means the work that Suzanne and others, including those here, those from UM etc are all helping further those lucky circumstances. Make copies of posters, make websites, talk up missing persons, volunteer, search the john and jane doe files for matches, attend a vigil...there are so many things people can do to help find those who are lost to us. Everyone deserves a name, and everyone deserves answers about their missing loved ones. Leaving the Porchlight on until they all come home.

I readily agree that the information available has not been all-inclusive. When I first saw the UM episode, I felt very sorry for Tammy. 300 pageants by the age of 16, no mention of having a father at all, unchaperoned out of town parties at a young age, a "stage mom" who's affection is probably spread thin amongst all of her clients - not to mention the added problem that most pageant families have, where affection is only gained through winning.
I may not have known the family personally, but these are the thoughts I had based on the information given by UM.

The reason I gave up reading that old thread was because there were too many posts trying to argue another post that was 'never' posted. It was giving me a headache and draining me of my sympathies. I realized that all I can do is speculate until I'm blue in the face.

I will never be in the inner circle of those 'in the know,' nor do I want to be. It sounds like constant torture.
And if anyone is in fact keeping dark secrets about this matter, just remember that the Truth will set you free.

Jarek

I do know I wasn't arguing with any one and shouldn't have had to.It's obvious people were being very rude on that thread.I was defending myself and trying the best I could to explain things.I do know they were proven by the police wrong at everything.I do know I do not have to answer to any one and the police are not saying I do.I have worked very hard to find Tammy for a long time now.And the police and I and other people are trying to find out that truth.I do feel some one knows the truth.I have always said some one needs to start talking.I do feel our mother did care very much of what became of tammy and I feel we all care very much for Tammy.Someone did threaten to kill her about 2 weeks before she came up missing.There is just alot of things said that people really do not know what happened and we are trying to find out.That's why it probably is best to put her information out and call the police or FDLE if they know something on my sister Tammy.There is just alot of speculation and nothing really known.I pray the FDLE really do find out something this time.they are reinvestigating her case again.It's just been way too long.I've done everything I can to find Tammy.I don't know what else to do any more but to just let the LE and FDLE see what they can find.I pray we all can find out what happened to Tammy.

Edited for spelling and to add I pray we can find out what happened to Tammy.

I readily agree that the information available has not been all-inclusive. When I first saw the UM episode, I felt very sorry for Tammy. 300 pageants by the age of 16, no mention of having a father at all, unchaperoned out of town parties at a young age, a "stage mom" who's affection is probably spread thin amongst all of her clients - not to mention the added problem that most pageant families have, where affection is only gained through winning.
I may not have known the family personally, but these are the thoughts I had based on the information given by UM.

The reason I gave up reading that old thread was because there were too many posts trying to argue another post that was 'never' posted. It was giving me a headache and draining me of my sympathies. I realized that all I can do is speculate until I'm blue in the face.

I will never be in the inner circle of those 'in the know,' nor do I want to be. It sounds like constant torture.
And if anyone is in fact keeping dark secrets about this matter, just remember that the Truth will set you free.

Jarek

I feel you man. this case attracted me for some reasons it did for you. it has definately drained me of my sympathies as well. there is a lot more than meets the eye with this case. i do not think we'll ever definately find the truth. what actually is more disturbing right now is the half-truths and distortions in this thread.

remember with the internet, anyone can claim anything and it would be very hard to verify.

It might be a confusing case.But I do know alot of people love and care about Tammy very much and want to know she is ok and that is what it should be all about.

Someone had said earlier that Tammi's mom has died. Is that true?

Some things to keep in mind in this case:

1. Usually in missing persons cases, you usually don;t have a prelude to the disappearance. In this case you do: Tammy's paranoia, her talk about money launderers. Usually when you have such a back story, that points to the disappearance NOT being a random act.

2. The day Tammy disappeared was not a normal day for her. She specifically wanted to do something that day that had a modicum of difficulty as well as importance. What was it that she had to do that day that was so important.

3.If Tammy were going to lam it. Her pregnancy becomes a huge consideration and potential

4. so much of this case hinges on the story of the last person that saw her. This man gives us the motives, last location and time she disappeared. Just imagine if even one of these details is incorrect, how much the parameters of this case changes.

5. If Tammy is alive..we potentially are looking for three people. (Tammy, her child, and a potential enabler.)

6. If Tammy was even remotely involved in prostitution prior to the disappearance, I have to imagine she was a fairly popular for tricks. Wouldn;t there be some "johns" ad other "prostitutes" to come forward and say they knew her?

Someone had said earlier that Tammi's mom has died. Is that true?

Yes. here is a snip from the article


MOTHER DIES WITHOUT AN ANSWER TO MYSTERY OF MISSING DAUGHTER
by Billy Cox
Florida Today
Oct 5, 1995

Modeling Agent, Linda Curtis, died early Wednesday morning without resolving her greatest sorrow -- the fate of her daughter.

Curtis, 54, passed away at Florida Hospital in Orlando, following a blood infection she contracted over the weekend. She had been diagnosed as terminally ill months ago from kidney and liver failure.

"We kept her going through artificial means for as long as we could. Those were her wishes," said photographer Wing Flanagan, her longtime partner, "Her heart just gave out."

A Cocoa native, Curtis attained nationsl prominence in the 1980s for coaching so many girls to victory in beauty pageants. In 1983, however, her life turned upside down with the disappearance of her 18-year old daughter, Tami Lynn Leppert.
snip

Some things to keep in mind in this case:

1. Usually in missing persons cases, you usually don;t have a prelude to the disappearance. In this case you do: Tammy's paranoia, her talk about money launderers. Usually when you have such a back story, that points to the disappearance NOT being a random act.

2. The day Tammy disappeared was not a normal day for her. She specifically wanted to do something that day that had a modicum of difficulty as well as importance. What was it that she had to do that day that was so important.

3.If Tammy were going to lam it. Her pregnancy becomes a huge consideration and potential

4. so much of this case hinges on the story of the last person that saw her. This man gives us the motives, last location and time she disappeared. Just imagine if even one of these details is incorrect, how much the parameters of this case changes.

5. If Tammy is alive..we potentially are looking for three people. (Tammy, her child, and a potential enabler.)

6. If Tammy was even remotely involved in prostitution prior to the disappearance, I have to imagine she was a fairly popular for tricks. Wouldn;t there be some "johns" ad other "prostitutes" to come forward and say they knew her?

That is a good list. I agree with you about the prostitution too. It seems so unlikely a reason to disappear or a reason to stay away or whatever the motivation was supposed to be. I think Tammy had a lot more on the ball than that.
I think we also need to keep in mind that although Tammy may have had one plan in mind, something else entirely may have happened in the meantime.

I just watched the case again, and something struck me as strange. It was bizarre that Tammy acting out against Wing Flanagan and her mother. The segment showed Tammy asking Flanagan to taste some broccoli for her to make sure it's not poisoned, as well as Tammy accusing Wing of locking her out of the house. It's interesting that she seemed extremely paranoid to the point where she took out her fears on those close to her. She comes off as someone who's schizophrenic. If she didn't suffer from schizophrenia, perhaps drugs could have done something to her.

I just watched the case again, and something struck me as strange. It was bizarre that Tammy acting out against Wing Flanagan and her mother. The segment showed Tammy asking Flanagan to taste some broccoli for her to make sure it's not poisoned, as well as Tammy accusing Wing of locking her out of the house. It's interesting that she seemed extremely paranoid to the point where she took out her fears on those close to her. She comes off as someone who's schizophrenic. If she didn't suffer from schizophrenia, perhaps drugs could have done something to her.

If I seem to remember, didn;t the doctors say they ruled out drug use when they evaluated her after she went crazy? I could be wrong. I also don't know how they could rule out the drug use.

I also have to imagine they're was no drug paraphenilia found amongst her belongings at home.

The doctors also ruled out "crazy", too.

If I seem to remember, didn;t the doctors say they ruled out drug use when they evaluated her after she went crazy? I could be wrong. I also don't know how they could rule out the drug use.

I also have to imagine they're was no drug paraphenilia found amongst her belongings at home.

According to the segment, Tammy was checked into a mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation. Doctors found no evidence of drug or alcohol use. The doctors kept her in the hospital for 72 hours of observation.

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Originally Posted by Mastermind
If I seem to remember, didn;t the doctors say they ruled out drug use when they evaluated her after she went crazy? I could be wrong. I also don't know how they could rule out the drug use.

I also have to imagine they're was no drug paraphenilia found amongst her belongings at home.

According to the segment, Tammy was checked into a mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation. Doctors found no evidence of drug or alcohol use. The doctors kept her in the hospital for 72 hours of observation.

Thanks, I thought so.

Tammy most likely wasn't a drug addict.

The doctors also ruled out "crazy", too.
Yeah, you would think they would have fond out some serious long term ailment. Bolsters the idea that Tammy's reactions were normal human fear and paranoia over a real situation.

The segment mentioned that once the filming of "Spring Break" wrapped up production, Tammy went unchaperoned to an out of town weekend party. When she arrived back home, she was never the same again. This could lead one to believe that the cause of her paranoia started from something she saw or someone she met that weekend that she never ended up recovering from.

I don't think it's out of the possibility since before that party, she was nothing like the person she would later become. But this is a vague fact. I wish it were possible to know more about this party she went to and who she she was spending the most time with that weekend because the segment said she came back a different person.

Yes, the weekend mentioned in the segment is most likely the clue to what changed Tammy. Something, someone or both in that weekend must have scared her. People do not change that amount over something lite. She must have been traumatized by something or someone in that weekend.
I feel so sorry for her because I guess her life was destroyed after that.

I feel so sorry for her because I guess her life was destroyed after that

Maybe not. For all we know she may living in a decent situation with her child somewhere.

The one thing I found frustrating about this case is that there seems to be more details to the case that haven't been revealed yet. UM never even mentioned that Tammy was pregnant when she disappeared.

I'm hoping someone writes a book about Tammy Leppert. I'd also like to see if anyone can get an interview with Wing Flanagan. He seemed close to Tammy.

I don't think it's out of the possibility since before that party, she was nothing like the person she would later become. But this is a vague fact. I wish it were possible to know more about this party she went to and who she she was spending the most time with that weekend because the segment said she came back a different person.

That's the huge difference between this case and Cindy James' case. In this case there is a definitive event where we can trace when things went downhill for Tammy. It was that party.

I don't think there is any definitive evidence that Tammy was pregnant, either.

The "friend" was the last person to see her alive. You have to wonder why he just left her alone in a carpark. Even if she was acting crazy, it still seems like a dumb thing to do.

Ms. Lepert was obviously a deeply disturbed young woman that required more counseling and psychiatric care than she received; and possibly more than her mother could afford.

The segment shows her:

1) Demanding that her brother taste her food before she would eat it. This really disturbing as it implies that she believed her family was trying to harm her.
2) Numerous episodes of bizarre behavior and irrational thinking.
3) A very volatile personality w/ little or no apparent ability to control herself.
4) Giving an interview where you can see she is barely in control of herself and her emotions.

And this was all during an eight minute, heavily edited UM segment. Imagine how she was in real life.

IMHO, Ms. Lepert met w/ foul play after being thrown out of her friend's vehicle. She was obviously out of control and was probably making irrational judgments. Unfortunately, one of those judgments probably ended w/ her being harmed by dangerous people.

It very sad that she was unable to obtain the serious psychiatric care that she so desperately need.

True, but if someone is acting dumb in your car and you want them out, your not thinking they are are going to disapear forever.

Ms. Lepert was obviously a deeply disturbed young woman that required more counseling and psychiatric care than she received; and possibly more than her mother could afford.

The segment shows her:

1) Demanding that her brother taste her food before she would eat it. This really disturbing as it implies that she believed her family was trying to harm her.
2) Numerous episodes of bizarre behavior and irrational thinking.
3) A very volatile personality w/ little or no apparent ability to control herself.
4) Giving an interview where you can see she is barely in control of herself and her emotions.

And this was all during an eight minute, heavily edited UM segment. Imagine how she was in real life.

IMHO, Ms. Lepert met w/ foul play after being thrown out of her friend's vehicle. She was obviously out of control and was probably making irrational judgments. Unfortunately, one of those judgments probably ended w/ her being harmed by dangerous people.

It very sad that she was unable to obtain the serious psychiatric care that she so desperately need.

I don't think that was the case I think she was just dumb. Spending more time at beauty events than at school.

What happend to suzanne , she hasn't posted in over a year?

I recently saw this one again and found it interesting that her friends were quoted by LE as speaking to the "problems she had at home" - I suspect she might have grown tired of being her mother's plaything and perhaps wanted to get out of the modeling industry - she clearly seems to have had mental problems as well - but whether they were caused by some trauma she witnessed or were self-created, I cannot say.

If we take the friend's story at face value, abduction seems a strong possibility, but i would be hesitant to accept it without some corroborating evidence; LE claims to have investigated him, but I understand this is disputed.

I don't think that was the case I think she was just dumb. Spending more time at beauty events than at school.

That may have been the case. I know that if you look at her eyes, it's pretty clear that she isn't certain where she's at or what she's saying.

Someone more then likely took advantage of her mental illness and abducted her. Although I keep thinking she might have thrown a tantrum at that point like she did when she would get paranoid. Who knows, I guess... :(

I wonder if LE ever looked into what happened at that party. Just watched her talk at the end of the segment, man, that girl was a space cadet.

True, but if someone is acting dumb in your car and you want them out, your not thinking they are are going to disapear forever.


Very true. Back in 1973, a bunch of us girls skipped school and went to the mall in Orlando. One girl and myself got into an argument that escalatated. We were in Zayre's parking lot in Pine Hills. I put her out and told her to get home the best way she could. I was so mad I didn't care. She ended up hitch hiking to Windermere because she was afraid to call her parents. Stupid of both of us. It ended well, and we made up. We didn't think about what a tragic outcome there could have been. At the time I was furious with her and thought it was funny.

That may have been the case. I know that if you look at her eyes, it's pretty clear that she isn't certain where she's at or what she's saying.

Eyes are the window to the soul as they say.

What was the story with Wing Flanagan? how did he come into the families' life? apparantley he is a computer programmer now.

Eyes are the window to the soul as they say.

What was the story with Wing Flanagan? how did he come into the families' life? apparantley he is a computer programmer now.
I'm pretty sure he was a close family friend who was living with them, dont know why.
i wish my name was wing

I'm pretty sure he was a close family friend who was living with them, dont know why.
i wish my name was wing

c'mon ... Wing...? :lol:

c'mon ... Wing...? :lol:
put Wing with a good last name and your unstoppable.

In one of the posts someone mentioned that UM had described Keith's car incorrectly. It was a long time ago so I could be wrong, but I was thinking he had a black Firebird. It also seemed odd that Keith would drive from Orlando (in the middle of the state) all the way over towards the east coast to the Cocoa/Rockledge area only to drop Tami off over in Cocoa Beach. I also remember Keith had a friend with dark hair and a mustache (can't remember his name) and, again, if I am remembering correctly, he was an excon (not making any judgements about that) and I think Linda (Tami's mom) had given him a job to help him out (Tami was nice like that too). I think this guy and Keith were roommates at one time.
Someone also asked about the guy Wing Flanagan. Tami and her mom lived with the Flanagans for a while and were still living with them at the time of her disappearance.
I have not heard any references to her cousin, but I think she had a cousin named Scout Stout who lived in Cocoa Beach (FL).
And, if I remember correctly, Tami had a fraternal twin; I think her name is Debbie and might live in California (a husband named David?).
Last I heard she either experienced something emotionally traumatic on the set of Scarface or she accidentally knew too much about some drug dealings going on at a barbecue restaurant in Cocoa, FL (Tami wasn't involved, just may have been aware of too much probably only because someone she knew was involved and may have taken Tami along to either show her off or to try to impress her, or both - assuming of course that this person was a male).
I thought she may have run off to California (to live with her fraternal twin) to either try to make it in Hollywood on her own or to try to get away from her mother - or both. In either case, I would think she would have shown up when her mother passed away.

PS. That is Tami on the cover of the "Spring Break" DVD (and the poster when the movie came out) - it's her hips with the guys "climbing" them.

put Wing with a good last name and your unstoppable.


Wing Mann. :D

This story airs today at 2pm MST on Lifetime.

After almost 28 years it looks like it will never be solved. Have any new clues been found as to what happened to Tami?

Wing Flanagan has arrived lol

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1393180042

I thought I should bring this up, there is a website where a guy has remote visions of missing people and apparently he did a reading of Tammy.

Not that I believe any of this but thought I'd share it none the less. He claims that she is living in Las Vegas, working for a slot machine factory and going by the name of Tara and does not want to be found.

Again, don't know what to make of it but thought I would share. He had this dream four years ago in 2007.

http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/585.htm

What happend to suzanne , she hasn't posted in over a year?

I can't speak for her. I've only read her posts here and other places online. We don't know each other personally.

It's my guess that Suzanne may have stopped posting so frequently due the extreme harassment she was enduring from a few nut jobs. Those people seemed intent on making her life miserable, derailing the search for Tammy, and possibly not only harassing, but even stalking her and other people who were posting about Tammy's case here and on other message boards.

I can't imagine what kind of person it takes to victimize a family who's already suffered so much, but thankfully, it looks like those people have been silenced on various message boards and it looks like they've even been investigated by the police. I sure hope that keeps them out of the picture so real discussions can progress and people who are interested in this case can continue to support Tammy's friends and family.

Watched the segment today, my first impression was that Tammy had some mental issues, not necessarily related to that party... 300 beauty pageants by the age of 16 - I mean c'mon.... one has to snap.... mother was an agent, who knows what kind of relationship they had between them..

Watched the segment today, my first impression was that Tammy had some mental issues, not necessarily related to that party... 300 beauty pageants by the age of 16 - I mean c'mon.... one has to snap.... mother was an agent, who knows what kind of relationship they had between them..IMO, this is a good reason why Tami would have left on her own. It seems like her mother forced her into the modeling business. At her age, she might have wanted to break away from mother.

And, if I remember correctly, Tami had a fraternal twin; I think her name is Debbie and might live in California (a husband named David?).
Tammy did not have a twin, fraternal or otherwise. She does have several siblings, one of whom is named Debbie.

IMO, this is a good reason why Tami would have left on her own. It seems like her mother forced her into the modeling business. At her age, she might have wanted to break away from mother.

I still think Tammy was a victim of foul play and is no longer with us.

From everything I've read and heard about her life, I don't think it out of the realm of possibility for her to have run away at 16. People have outlined valid reasons for this. At that age she might have had reasons to want to get away from her mother. I've heard everything frm she was pregnant and didn't want her to find out, get away from the modeling, all kinds of things.

But none of these reasons stand up to her continuing to want to hide three decades later in her late 40's, even her mom is deceased now. She has siblings who want to know what happened to her. I see no reason in the world for her not to contact someone and let them know she is ok if for no other reason to tell them to stop looking.

Cases like these where someone goes missing for years and years, nine times out of ten they are dead. Most people don't just dissapear forever without telling anyone, as a minor Tammy might have had reasons for wanting to hide. Not as an adult in her late 40's with no criminal record. Just doesn't add up.

I agree X. Besides, whatever reason Tammy might have had for leaving on her own (if she did) she could still have met with foul play. I continue to look for her both as alive and deceased. Hers is truly a sad story.

Regarding a fraternal twin: I remember Debbie and thought I remembered Debbie telling me herself that they were fraternal twins, but I could be remembering that information incorrectly. However, I knew they were sisters since I knew Tami and since Debbie was on my softball team many years ago. You seem to know them as well. Do you know their (possible) cousin, Scott Stout?

Watched the segment today, my first impression was that Tammy had some mental issues, not necessarily related to that party... 300 beauty pageants by the age of 16 - I mean c'mon.... one has to snap.... mother was an agent, who knows what kind of relationship they had between them..
Regarding johan183 and the relationship between Tami and her mom: They were living off of the money (what there was of it) that Tami made from her prize monies from pageants and appearances in movies ("Little Darlings", "Spring Break" and the "Spring Break" movie posters, etc.), revenues from Linda's agency (Galaxy Studios) and help from friends and family. I'm sure her mom put alot of pressure on Tami to do more and make more money. Tami, and the hope of her silver screen success, was their financial life-line. That is why I first thought that Tami probably ran away. However, I don't think she could have remained hidden this long, especially when her mom passed away. And, if Keith really dropped her off where he claimed to have, it's not likely that no one ever saw (locally recognizable) Tami at the Glass Bank in Cocoa Beach in broad daylight, 2 blocks from the beach, in an area that included a bank, grocery store, gas station, ABC Liquor, a pharmacy, Krystal restaurant, Brassy's Night Club, highway A1A and the Cocoa Isles subdivision in Cocoa Beach (FL).

That may have been the case. I know that if you look at her eyes, it's pretty clear that she isn't certain where she's at or what she's saying.
She was relying on automatic responses, things she was taught and "programmed" to say in interviews. That especially happens alot when one's heart is no longer into, or no longer enjoys, what they are doing. Tami was NOT an air-head nor a drug addict.

I'm pretty sure he was a close family friend who was living with them, dont know why.
i wish my name was wing
Wing wasn't living with them, Tami and her mom were living with Wing and his family at the time of her disappearance.

I still think Tammy was a victim of foul play and is no longer with us.

From everything I've read and heard about her life, I don't think it out of the realm of possibility for her to have run away at 16. People have outlined valid reasons for this. At that age she might have had reasons to want to get away from her mother. I've heard everything frm she was pregnant and didn't want her to find out, get away from the modeling, all kinds of things.

But none of these reasons stand up to her continuing to want to hide three decades later in her late 40's, even her mom is deceased now. She has siblings who want to know what happened to her. I see no reason in the world for her not to contact someone and let them know she is ok if for no other reason to tell them to stop looking.

Cases like these where someone goes missing for years and years, nine times out of ten they are dead. Most people don't just dissapear forever without telling anyone, as a minor Tammy might have had reasons for wanting to hide. Not as an adult in her late 40's with no criminal record. Just doesn't add up.
Se was 18 when she disappeared, not 16.

Regarding a fraternal twin: I remember Debbie and thought I remembered Debbie telling me herself that they were fraternal twins, but I could be remembering that information incorrectly. However, I knew they were sisters since I knew Tami and since Debbie was on my softball team many years ago. You seem to know them as well. Do you know their (possible) cousin, Scott Stout?


I don't know anyone involved personally, but this is one of those cases that intrigues me. I believe Suzanne and Debbie are the twins.

[QUOTE=aspengold]Regarding johan183 and the relationship between Tami and her mom: They were living off of the money (what there was of it) that Tami made from her prize monies from pageants and appearances in movies ("Little Darlings", "Spring Break" and the "Spring Break" movie posters, etc.), revenues from Linda's agency (Galaxy Studios) and help from friends and family. [QUOTE]

Which probably wasn't much. I've read that entrance fees in pageants are often more than the prize money offered. Plus, there's all the other costs involved.

I knew someone years ago who was convinced that Tami had run away and was still very much alive with no desire to be found. I could see that happening, people have done it. But, like many of you, I find it difficult to believe that she would stay missing after her mother's passing. It seems that relationship was the most strained.

Suffer me asking a question I'm sure has been answered, though I can not find it now. Were Tami's sisters involved in her life? I thought I recalled one of them saying they didn't know about Tami until after she disappeared. I could be misremembering or confusing two different cases though.

Se was 18 when she disappeared, not 16.

I could have sworn the broadcast said 16. But its admittedly been a long time could be mistaken.

However it wouldn't change my opinion that she is dead. In fact if she was 18 her dissapearance makes even less sense, because as an adult all she had to do was just say goodbye, no reason for her to run away without telling anyone.

I could have sworn the broadcast said 16. But its admittedly been a long time could be mistaken.

However it wouldn't change my opinion that she is dead. In fact if she was 18 her dissapearance makes even less sense, because as an adult all she had to do was just say goodbye, no reason for her to run away without telling anyone.

It was easy to be confused. The beginning of the broadcast shows her at 16 in a beauty pageant, then all the other events happened. I also believe the foul play theory. It doesn't make much sense that at 18 she would run off, especially if she was terrified. I have some doubts about the whole "ran off with barefeet somewhere downtown" story. If anything, wouldn't someone have seen her? Wouldn't a girl terrified of a man immediately go to a payphone and ask for a ride? Even if she didn't have any money, collect existed in the 1980s, right? I just wonder about that story.

I just recently watched Scarface for the first time and could not help but think of Tammy. Does anyone know where she is in the movie? Or was her part completely cut out?

As for the case, I find it so troubling. I read an article about an interview they'd had with her before she vanished and she sounded so kind. If only there could be answers.

Watched this recently, and it is indeed a very complicated case. On one level, we have a clear sort of timeline, with a marked deterioration in Tammy's mental and emotional state followed by a disappearance. This represents a greater degree of certainty than is ofen the case.

Paradoxically, we also have more gaps/blind spots than would be usual and I'd think that the answer to some of them would probably indicate as to how and why she vanished all those years ago (what happened next is of course the ultimate blind spot).

The important unanswered questions I thought were:-

1. 300 pageants by the age of 16 is a lot of time spent looking pretty and trying to impress people. This is almost certain to have a profound effect on a person's upbringing, state of being well-adjusted or otherwise and their relationship with parents (especially as the mother in this case also fulfilled the role of agent/manager).

Had she ever been allowed any time to grow up normally? How did Tammy feel towards her mother? And was there a sense of pressure (as another poster indicates) that she represented some sort of 'last spin of the dice' for the family?

Of course, that's a hell of a burden to put on someone so young.

2. In parts of the segment, she appears to be exhibiting symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia or some form of mental illness. However, that's ruled out after a period of intense psychological evaluation. Was her behaviour in that environment different to that at home in the period beforehand?

I ask this because my understanding of the medical profession is they're only too keen to diagnose any abnormal behaviour as being symptomatic of some kind of personality disorder - mental illness can of course be clinical/permanent or situational/temporary and the latter should not be regarded as 'less valid' than the former.

If the reconstructions shown (roping in a member of the family as a 'taster') represent an accurate reflection of everyday activity, then it's baffling that a professional would look at her for 72 hours and decide there was nothing to worry about.

3. The 'friend' who gave her a ride then threw her out of the car - is his account accurate? The last person to state that they saw someone before they disappeared normally gets a great deal more focus than was the case here.

4. Was Tammy pregnant or not? And if so, did it happen at the 'party' that seems to have catalysed the downward spiral? This would explain a hell of a lot, especially when tied in with point 1, and would be my most educated hunch as to what happened here - ie, realising she was pregnant, and perhaps understanding how it represented 'financial ruin' for her family, she couldn't handle it anymore and ran like hell.

If you've run away from a 'previous life' I could understand why the individual might not want to be found.

What do we know for sure that was misrepresented in the segment?

I'm going to go back and read the thread to make sure I don't goof this up...

Didn't UM portray Tami as being dropped off barefoot, but it's been established that she did have her shoes on or at least with her at the time of her disappearance?

Okie dokie, here's some info:

Charley project says that when she went missing:

Tami may have been 3 months pregnant.

She did have flip flops and was not barefoot.

She had a gray purse.

She had recently spent 72 hours in psychiatric observation but was released. Her mother planned on getting her into therapy anyway, but Tami disappeared before that was arranged.

Her mother said that Tami was afraid of the person who last saw her, and that the person was not thoroughly investigated. Officials say he was interviewed and is not a suspect.

Huh... well that makes a bit more sense. Sounds like she didn't just vanish downtown barefoot. Sounds like she was scared of someone. and the pregnancy and mental ward angle is interesting. Could it have been the baby's Father who didn't want her to keep it? Also the Police saying he isn't a suspect means Squat to me. Anything is possible.

Watched this recently, and it is indeed a very complicated case. On one level, we have a clear sort of timeline, with a marked deterioration in Tammy's mental and emotional state followed by a disappearance. This represents a greater degree of certainty than is ofen the case.

1. 300 pageants by the age of 16 is a lot of time spent looking pretty and trying to impress people. This is almost certain to have a profound effect on a person's upbringing, state of being well-adjusted or otherwise and their relationship with parents (especially as the mother in this case also fulfilled the role of agent/manager).

Had she ever been allowed any time to grow up normally? How did Tammy feel towards her mother? And was there a sense of pressure (as another poster indicates) that she represented some sort of 'last spin of the dice' for the family?

Of course, that's a hell of a burden to put on someone so young.

Reading old articles online, I got the impression that she kind of liked the spotlight and competing in all those beauty contests. I remember one article mentioned that she was getting a little discouraged that a film career wasn't taking off as well as she had hoped. Whenever she got a "part," she was really more of a background character and in the movie 'Spring Break,' she was just one of the hot girls on the beach. She didn't have any lines.

What's not mentioned in the articles is this out of town party she went to once 'Spring Break,' wrapped production. The UM segment says she came back a different person and was never the same again. If she never showed any signs of mental illness before this party, logically you would think something did happen that weekend to start the downward spiral of paranoia. But that's just a guess, obviously.

I will say this, though. The glass bank where her friend claims to have dropped her off looks like such a haunting place because it's been shut down and abandoned for over 2 decades.

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TammyLeppertBank.jpg

Does anyone have a good timeline for the events?

When was:

The movie filming?

The "party" that seems to have been a catalyst for this tragedy?

The 72 hours inpatient observation?

The insistence of a "food taster"?

The abandonment at the parking lot?

And all the stuff, before, after, and in between?

Does anyone have a good timeline for the events?

When was:

The movie filming?

The "party" that seems to have been a catalyst for this tragedy?

The 72 hours inpatient observation?

The insistence of a "food taster"?

The abandonment at the parking lot?

And all the stuff, before, after, and in between?

I know that she disappeared in July 1983, hence the parking lot drop-off.

As for the Scarface filming, I believe it was early 1983 but unfortunately, I would have to watch the segment again.

The party that was the catalyst for the whole thing- I think- was summer of 1982, possibly July.

You know what, I'm just going to watch the segment again :D

I know that she disappeared in July 1983, hence the parking lot drop-off.

As for the Scarface filming, I believe it was early 1983 but unfortunately, I would have to watch the segment again.

The party that was the catalyst for the whole thing- I think- was summer of 1982, possibly July.

You know what, I'm just going to watch the segment again :D


Wasn't there a theroy that Tami loaned money to some one? Seems plossible to me that their was drugs at the party and she owed money to a drug dealer who threatened her. Couldn't her behavior be from taking drugs? If she was pregnat that would explain the argument with her boyfriend. He probably wanted her to aboart the pregnancy and she didnt want too. Course they could have argued over money and drugs too. You ask me he needs to be investigated more.


I wonder if the cops investigated this party she went too? Seems like the key to everything.

Does anyone have a good timeline for the events?

When was:

The movie filming?

The "party" that seems to have been a catalyst for this tragedy?

The 72 hours inpatient observation?

The insistence of a "food taster"?

The abandonment at the parking lot?

And all the stuff, before, after, and in between?

The segment was pretty good with dates.

JULY 1982: Tammy is cast in 'Spring Break.' When filming was exactly, I'm not sure. The dates are not given on imdb. The out of town weekend party happened after 'Spring Break,' according to the segment but we don't know when exactly.

MARCH 1983: Tammy goes to Miami to film 'Scarface.' Everything was fine until the fourth day of filming when she saw a scene being filmed where a man is supposed to be shot with artificial blood splurting out. When Tammy saw this, she had a breakdown and had to be escorted to a trailer. Through her breakdown, she mentioned money laundering. After this incident, she quit the film and went home to Cocoa Beach.

MARCH 25, 1983: 'Spring Break' opens at theatres.

APRIL 1983: Tammy's paranoia gets worse. This eventually leads to her believing people were trying to poison her.

JULY 1, 1983: Tammy finally snaps and breaks a window with a baseball bat.

JULY 2, 1983: Tammy is checked in to the mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation for 72 hours. Doctors found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in her system.

JULY 4, 1983: Tammy is released from the hospital and goes home.

JULY 5, 1983: Tammy goes out with her friend Rick Adams. She tells Rick that she loves him and that she might be going away for a while.

JULY 6, 1983: In the morning, Tammy's friend picks her up. They drive to the beach and then get in an argument. Tammy then gets dropped off at the Glass bank, never to be seen again. That afternoon, Tammy made 3 urgent phone calls to her aunt, who worked at a costume shop in Cocoa Beach. Unfortunately, the aunt was out of town. When she arrived home, she listened to the messages and said Tammy sounded very scared. There has been no contact from her since.

There is greater likelihood she ran off. Unless Rick Adams was involved, the probability of her being abducted after she says she would run off is slim to none. Now, it is very possible she ran off and met foul play in the months after being missing.

Every time I see this segment, I feel less and less sympathy for the mother. For her own mother to allow her to go to these parties in the first place was a big mistake. I know she may have been 18 at the time, and who knows maybe she warned Tammi, but the way things were going with Tammi, it wasn't going to end well for her either way.

I know this is off topic, ernmerica, but I think you win the award for scariest avatar EVER.

The segment was pretty good with dates.

JULY 1982: Tammy is cast in 'Spring Break.' When filming was exactly, I'm not sure. The dates are not given on imdb. The out of town weekend party happened after 'Spring Break,' according to the segment but we don't know when exactly.

MARCH 1983: Tammy goes to Miami to film 'Scarface.' Everything was fine until the fourth day of filming when she saw a scene being filmed where a man is supposed to be shot with artificial blood splurting out. When Tammy saw this, she had a breakdown and had to be escorted to a trailer. Through her breakdown, she mentioned money laundering. After this incident, she quit the film and went home to Cocoa Beach.

MARCH 25, 1983: 'Spring Break' opens at theatres.

APRIL 1983: Tammy's paranoia gets worse. This eventually leads to her believing people were trying to poison her.

JULY 1, 1983: Tammy finally snaps and breaks a window with a baseball bat.

JULY 2, 1983: Tammy is checked in to the mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation for 72 hours. Doctors found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in her system.

JULY 4, 1983: Tammy is released from the hospital and goes home.

JULY 5, 1983: Tammy goes out with her friend Rick Adams. She tells Rick that she loves him and that she might be going away for a while.

JULY 6, 1983: In the morning, Tammy's friend picks her up. They drive to the beach and then get in an argument. Tammy then gets dropped off at the Glass bank, never to be seen again. That afternoon, Tammy made 3 urgent phone calls to her aunt, who worked at a costume shop in Cocoa Beach. Unfortunately, the aunt was out of town. When she arrived home, she listened to the messages and said Tammy sounded very scared. There has been no contact from her since.

Did the UM broadcast mention the calls to the aunt? I didn't even remember that, all I could remember was that she was dropped off by the b/f and was never heard from again!

Again UM does have an irritating habit of leaving out crucial details. If Tammy made calls to her aunt after she was dropped off, that makes it highly unlikely she planned to run away that day, and in my opinion reinforces the theory she was a victim of foul play.

However, if the aunt did receive calls from Tammy after she was allegedly dropped off, it lends some credence to the story of the guy who dropped her off. Cause if he had something to do with her dissapearance its unlikely he would have let her call, but it doesn't exonerate him completely.

UM made no mention of the phone calls to her aunt or even the existence of an Aunt in her family. Would have been great to have known that additional information but for some reason UM didn't include it in the broadcast.

I just recently watched Scarface for the first time and could not help but think of Tammy. Does anyone know where she is in the movie? Or was her part completely cut out?



She's the extremely lovely blonde that walks over to Manny's car (with the Avalon Hotel in the background) during the infamous chainsaw scene.

She's the extremely lovely blonde that walks over to Manny's car (with the Avalon Hotel in the background) during the infamous chainsaw scene.

Here's the only screen cap I could find from the site that shall remain nameless...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy3.jpg

Here's the only screen cap I could find from the site that shall remain nameless...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy3.jpg

Dear God...I just recently watched that film. Odd to see a woman who was most probably the victim of foul play herself in a film full of violence and murder, even if she only was in a bit part.

An important question I think is if in fact she left phone calls to the aunt the day she disappeared, WHAT did she say in the messages she left? She "sounded scared" but what did she say? It might be useful to know that.

Dear God...I just recently watched that film. Odd to see a woman who was most probably the victim of foul play herself in a film full of violence and murder, even if she only was in a bit part.

An important question I think is if in fact she left phone calls to the aunt the day she disappeared, WHAT did she say in the messages she left? She "sounded scared" but what did she say? It might be useful to know that.

The phone calls to the aunt were mentioned in an article online but they don't mention what exactly Tammy said in the messages. Starting from the day after Tammy was released from the mental health hospital...

"The doctors released her and said she was as normal as they could tell," Curtis says. So we were all set to check her with another psychotherapist. But we were too late."

Curtis was sitting in the house that Wednesday morning when she heard a car horn beep out front. Tammy peered out the window and went out the door. She was wearing a light blue blouse, a denim shirt and was barefoot. She stuck her head back in and said, "bye mommy. I'll see you in a little bit, O.K.?"

"For some reason, I was preoccupied that day and I didn't pay much attention to it, and I'll never forgive myself for that," Curtis says. On the other hand, since her daughter did not have her purse, Curtis didn't think she was going very far. Ten minutes later, Curtis heard a car engine crank up. She rose to see what was going on. Tammy was riding away in the car of the young man she supposedly feared. It was 11:00 a.m. and Linda Curtis never saw her daughter again.

The last reported contact Tammy attempted came in a flurry of phone calls she made that Wednesday afternoon. Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch was out of town at the time and Tammy said she was calling from a nearby location.

"Tammy sounded like she was afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real. I'm convinced of that." Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash.

The phone calls to the aunt were mentioned in an article online but they don't mention what exactly Tammy said in the messages. Starting from the day after Tammy was released from the mental health hospital...

"The doctors released her and said she was as normal as they could tell," Curtis says. So we were all set to check her with another psychotherapist. But we were too late."

Curtis was sitting in the house that Wednesday morning when she heard a car horn beep out front. Tammy peered out the window and went out the door. She was wearing a light blue blouse, a denim shirt and was barefoot. She stuck her head back in and said, "bye mommy. I'll see you in a little bit, O.K.?"

"For some reason, I was preoccupied that day and I didn't pay much attention to it, and I'll never forgive myself for that," Curtis says. On the other hand, since her daughter did not have her purse, Curtis didn't think she was going very far. Ten minutes later, Curtis heard a car engine crank up. She rose to see what was going on. Tammy was riding away in the car of the young man she supposedly feared. It was 11:00 a.m. and Linda Curtis never saw her daughter again.

The last reported contact Tammy attempted came in a flurry of phone calls she made that Wednesday afternoon. Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch was out of town at the time and Tammy said she was calling from a nearby location.

"Tammy sounded like she was afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real. I'm convinced of that." Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash.

Urgh! What did she say in those urgent messages?! My curiosity is peaked!

But thank you for putting the information, of course :D

FYI Tammi is in the movie "Spring Break" boxing guys in a ring as part of an attraction.

I tend to think she was abducted by a random predator, and that this had nothing to do with whatever she was worried about. If she was being stalked and abducted because she knew something about drugs or whatever, the stalker would not have known she was going to be kicked out of the car. If she had been abducted walking to the store or something, where the abductor waits outside her home for her and then follows her, that would've made more sense.

The phone calls to the aunt were mentioned in an article online but they don't mention what exactly Tammy said in the messages. Starting from the day after Tammy was released from the mental health hospital...

"The doctors released her and said she was as normal as they could tell," Curtis says. So we were all set to check her with another psychotherapist. But we were too late."

Curtis was sitting in the house that Wednesday morning when she heard a car horn beep out front. Tammy peered out the window and went out the door. She was wearing a light blue blouse, a denim shirt and was barefoot. She stuck her head back in and said, "bye mommy. I'll see you in a little bit, O.K.?"

"For some reason, I was preoccupied that day and I didn't pay much attention to it, and I'll never forgive myself for that," Curtis says. On the other hand, since her daughter did not have her purse, Curtis didn't think she was going very far. Ten minutes later, Curtis heard a car engine crank up. She rose to see what was going on. Tammy was riding away in the car of the young man she supposedly feared. It was 11:00 a.m. and Linda Curtis never saw her daughter again. The last reported contact Tammy attempted came in a flurry of phone calls she made that Wednesday afternoon. Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch was out of town at the time and Tammy said she was calling from a nearby location.

"Tammy sounded like she was afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real. I'm convinced of that." Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash.

The more I read about this case, the more I wonder why the guy who picked her up is not a stronger suspect and being investigated more. If he was a strong suspect in the past the UM broadcast sure didn't indicate it.

WishfulDreamer,
I meant to answer your question about where Tami appeared in "Scareface" and logged on tonight to do so. However, I see that several people already answered your question. Tami's only appearance in "Scarface" was that scene where she is speaking with the lookout who is sitting in the convertible during "the chainsaw" scene. I think Tami also had a very short line in that scene, but the line was cut out. As for "Spring Break", she appears in several spots and is identifiable. She is in one scene where she is dancing by a swimming pool. In another scene, she is the female boxer at the club where the guys watch the wet t-shirt contest. Also, those are Tami's hips on the "Spring Break" movie poster. It's been many years since I've seen "Little Darlings", but I do remember that she is sitting right behind Kristi McNichol and Tatum O'Neal in one of the camp cafeteria scenes.
I also see where someone posted a recent picture of the "Glass Bank" and said that the bank building had been closed up for about 20 years. At the time of Tami's disappearance, the "Glass Bank" building was in use and was a well known building in Cocoa Beach. Also, a popular nightspot at the time, "Brassy's Nightclub" was behind the "Glass Bank". The ABC Lounge was just north of the bank in the same parking lot area. That spot is also where A1A splits up into 2-lane one-way sections. The "Glass Bank" was off of the south bound one-way side with Catalina Isles Blvd/Cedar Ave one block west of the bank, and there was also a Winn Dixie grocery store in a shopping plaza there and a gas station across the street. With the businesses around there, the Catalina Isles neighborhood and a beach access, this place was not a remote spot. It is amazing that no one saw her around there, or at least noticed an attractive young blonde in apparent distress, especially on a holiday weekend in mid-summer in a Florida beach town.
Someone else also recently wrote that Tami's boyfriend dropped her off there. Keith, the one who dropped her off, was just a male friend and not a boyfriend.
Something else of interest: The sister of those 3 Florida siblings (2 brothers and a sister) who went on a crime spree in Florida and Colorado where they were captured back in 2010 or 2011, worked at a strip joint in "No Man's Land", the strip of land in between Cocoa Beach and Cape Canaveral. I mention this because I think that building that the strip club is in is the same building that Tami's mother, Linda Curtis, operated her Galaxy Studios from in the very early '80s, which was right in front of the old Mouse Trap Restaurant and across A1A from Our Saviour's Catholic School and Church. She later moved her studio to Merritt Island near a Pizza Hut. I once saw Tami at the First Baptist Church of Merritt Island which was only a couple of blocks from the studio.
Just thought I'd add some extra information. I can't believe it's been almost 30 years since her disappearance.

WishfulDreamer,
I meant to answer your question about where Tami appeared in "Scareface" and logged on tonight to do so. However, I see that several people already answered your question. Tami's only appearance in "Scarface" was that scene where she is speaking with the lookout who is sitting in the convertible during "the chainsaw" scene. I think Tami also had a very short line in that scene, but the line was cut out.

I think there's some confusion with Scarface because we know that Tammy is the chick in the blue bikini leaning over the car talking to Manny who pulls away. But there's also a scene in which Manny is at the resort telling Tony how to pick up chicks. He spots a blonde in a blue bikini and he walks up to her and does the tongue thing which causes her to smack him and say, "You're gross!" But looking at this girl, she doesn't look like Tammy. She's taller, she looks older and her head is shaped a little different. Unsolved Mysteries said Tammy had her breakdown on the set during the 4th day of filming which was the chainsaw scene. She then quit the film and went home. I'm thinking the director probably just recast the pretty blonde girl after Tammy had her breakdown because....

This is Tammy:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy3.jpg

This is NOT Tammy:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy2.jpg

I think there's some confusion with Scarface because we know that Tammy is the chick in the blue bikini leaning over the car talking to Manny who pulls away. But there's also a scene in which Manny is at the resort telling Tony how to pick up chicks. He spots a blonde in a blue bikini and he walks up to her and does the tongue thing which causes her to smack him and say, "You're gross!" But looking at this girl, she doesn't look like Tammy. She's taller, she looks older and her head is shaped a little different. Unsolved Mysteries said Tammy had her breakdown on the set during the 4th day of filming which was the chainsaw scene. She then quit the film and went home. I'm thinking the director probably just recast the pretty blonde girl after Tammy had her breakdown because....

This is Tammy:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy3.jpg

This is NOT Tammy:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy2.jpg

It's kind of eerie watching that scene now. Seeing her so briefly, seeing her smile, and then walk out of frame, one of many bit players in a movie full of murder and death....
Kind of like her life in a way, she had a bit part in the film called Life, shined bright and smiled for a while, briefly...Then walked off never to be seen again, in a world full of violence and murder.

Just seeing her there in that brief scene, all smiling and pretty, knowing that she'd disappear out of anyone's knowledge just months later, disturbs greatly some part of me in a very sad way.

FYI Tammi is in the movie "Spring Break" boxing guys in a ring as part of an attraction.

I tend to think she was abducted by a random predator, and that this had nothing to do with whatever she was worried about. If she was being stalked and abducted because she knew something about drugs or whatever, the stalker would not have known she was going to be kicked out of the car. If she had been abducted walking to the store or something, where the abductor waits outside her home for her and then follows her, that would've made more sense.

Let's say she was being stalked by drug people. They could've easily had someone just watch her house, her movements, waiting for the right moment. They could've followed the car she was in from a distance (the car she drove off with the guy in). And when she was suddenly kicked out, one guy might've gotten out of the car, and followed her on foot. She may have noticed said guy, or recognized someone that she was afraid of, and made the telephone calls frantically, and been abducted right after making them.

If she said WHERE she was in the calls, it'd help a lot.

In finality, sadly, Tammy probably knew or saw something she shouldn't have seen or known about, couldn't deal with it emotionally, and whoever was responsible for what she saw or knew of decided she needed to go--to protect her from talking. And so yet another bright young life was snuffed out far too soon.

I don't believe it was random at all.

It is possible that the guy who picked her up helped set her up somehow or had something to do with it.

A farfetched possibility is that some creepo who followed her beauty career stalked her and abducted her, and that it was all just a coincidence. Maybe someone at the party was of this sort--a creep--and date raped her or did something very frightening. Or maybe she saw a girl being raped, or drug related business, or a murder. And she was told she'd be next if she didn't keep her mouth shut. And maybe it was someone she knew, someone she knew enough to be afraid of.

It's hard to figure out how frantic she was exactly. She had the time to make 3 separate phone calls to her aunt's work.

I often wondered how close in Cocoa Beach it was between the Glass bank where Tammy was dropped off and Balloonatics, where her aunt worked. But snooping around on Google, I found another forum where Tammy's sister Suzanne mentioned that the two locations were just a few blocks from each other.

Where Balloonatics was:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY6.jpg

And the Glass bank:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY7.jpg

So now we're faced with the question of why she didn't just walk to the costume shop instead of calling there 3 times on a payphone. Yes, she was barefoot. But walking a few blocks barefoot is manageable. And she herself said she was calling from nearby.

It's hard to figure out how frantic she was exactly. She had the time to make 3 separate phone calls to her aunt's work.

I often wondered how close in Cocoa Beach it was between the Glass bank where Tammy was dropped off and Balloonatics, where her aunt worked. But snooping around on Google, I found another forum where Tammy's sister Suzanne mentioned that the two locations were just a few blocks from each other.

Where Balloonatics was:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY6.jpg

And the Glass bank:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY7.jpg

So now we're faced with the question of why she didn't just walk to the costume shop instead of calling there 3 times on a payphone. Yes, she was barefoot. But walking a few blocks barefoot is manageable. And she herself said she was calling from nearby.
Possible theory: What if the guy dropped her off and she decided to go to a payphone, desiring not to be alone. Afraid of the outside and the man she feared would kill her, she stayed at the payphone rather than walking alone. Then the abduction occurred/ she saw the man coming and tried to flee, etc.

BUT wasn't the man she got in the car with the one she was afraid of in the first place? Perhaps he didn't drop her off and instead she fled --> made the calls --> abducted.

It's hard to figure out how frantic she was exactly. She had the time to make 3 separate phone calls to her aunt's work.

I often wondered how close in Cocoa Beach it was between the Glass bank where Tammy was dropped off and Balloonatics, where her aunt worked. But snooping around on Google, I found another forum where Tammy's sister Suzanne mentioned that the two locations were just a few blocks from each other.

Where Balloonatics was:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY6.jpg

And the Glass bank:

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TAMMY7.jpg

So now we're faced with the question of why she didn't just walk to the costume shop instead of calling there 3 times on a payphone. Yes, she was barefoot. But walking a few blocks barefoot is manageable. And she herself said she was calling from nearby.

Could've been 3 calls one after the other. Quick, nervous messages. Worked herself up into a state like the one she was in when she smashed the window--Become overwhelmed with paranoia and panic when no one answered the phone.

Now, she could've been calling because either:

1) Maybe the guy who dropped her off was abusive or violent--or maybe as the poster above said, he didn't let her out, but she got out and fled--and called out of panic.
2) Called because she wanted a ride home and was nervous
3) Was being followed by someone suspicious--perhaps the people she was afraid of--and called her aunt to let people know where she was in case something happened to her.

Perhaps after no one answering the phone, she got into a truly panicky/psychotic state, grew nervous, paranoid, saw dangers all around her and perhaps began to wander around, incoherent, not knowing herself, lonely and scared.

Maybe sometime along the way, wandering, she came more to her senses, decided to hitch a ride home, but being vulnerable, hitched a ride with the wrong person....More of a random sort of "out of the frying pan and into the fire" type situation where she ran from one perceived danger into another, worse one. Hitched a ride from some creep and was never seen again.

Maybe the people who she believed wanted to kill her caught up with her and she wasn't just being paranoid...

Or perhaps she wandered quite far--far enough from her local area to not be recognized (how far is up to you)--and was taken into a homeless shelter of some sort. Perhaps left it, wandered some more and met with foul play at some later point.

Or she landed herself in a psychiatric hospital, again, someplace far enough away from home that she wouldn't have been recognized, especially in 1983, long before the age of computers. She didn't have her bags or any identifying information on her likely. Maybe today she's still somewhere in a mental hospital somewhere, unsure of who she is. The "best" case scenario but unlikely.

Or perhaps the guy who dropped her off found her that afternoon right after she made the calls, or perhaps just a bit after, and maybe he was truly dangerous....and they got into a second argument and he killed her. Or maybe they did drugs together and she accidentally O'Ded and he covered it up.

Or perhaps she decided to leave her old life behind that day and met with foul play or death from some other cause at some later point for some other reason, in some other place. Perhaps she took her life at some later point.

Too many Ifs or "Perhaps"'s in this case.

Knowing exactly what she said on the tapes--perhaps even hearing her voice how she sounded exactly--might help. Might offer up some clue. Would at least tell us WHY she called three times--what was she calling for

Has anyone speculated on whether Tammy could've been an early victim of Christoper Wilder, the "Model Killer" who killed at least four teenaged models in Florida between February and March of 1984. Interestingly, one of those Florida victims was a "Miss Florida" model who had known him before he killed her--He stalked models besides killing them.

Between February and April 1984, he killed at least 8 women; He is suspected in several other murders in Florida. Some of these women were abducted in one state and killed and their bodies were dumped in another. He also routinely dumped bodies in Canals, Pits or Woods.

He also raped several young women and molested several teenaged girls in the 1970s-1982. Between 1982-March 1984, he was in Florida, awaiting trial for forcing two 15 year old girls whom he forced to pose nude for him.

He also used multiple vehicles, sometimes taking vehicles from his victims and using them, transferring his own stolen plates to their cars.

His MO by luring them into his car or to a meeting with him under the pretense of photographing them for a modeling contract. However, some he outright abducted--In his last Florida murder, he assaulted and abducted a 19 year old co-ed from a shopping mall parking lot after she turned down his offer to photograph her for a modeling agency.

Per Wikipedia:

"When she declined his offer to photograph her for a modeling agency, he assaulted her in the mall parking lot, wrapped her in a blanket and put her into the trunk of his car after binding her hands. In a motel room that night, he raped her then used a blow dyer and super glue in order to blind her and tortured her by applying copper wires to her feet and passing an electric current through them. When she tried to escape he threatened to kill her, and a fight ensued where she was beaten and bleeding. He fled after she locked herself in the bathroom and started pounding on the walls. Wilder fled in his car, taking all of her belongings with him. Finally she had to search for help by opening the door of the bathroom. Hotel guests and owners thought the incident was a case of domestic violence, and her screams for help were ignored."

He was eventually corned by police in April 1984. He killed himself with his gun before he could be taken into custody.

Also: His first Florida victim was also a "Miss Florida" contestant, and she was his girlfriend. He apparently even asked her to marry him, she thought he was a real gentlemen but too old for her. He was friends with her for two years before murdering her in 1984. Is it not possible that perhaps Wilder was at the party Tammy went to (given he hung around in model's circles), and he assaulted her, or she witnessed him raping/assaulting a girl she knew?

Wilder hung around the Miami Racetrack--was sometimes involved in races there, and he was often around that area--The Miami area itself, though his murders spanned both the east and west coast.

He had been seeing a therapist, to who he confided his preference for girls with long hair and his fantasy of holding a woman captive.

He had several vehicles including a Porsche and Chrysler sedan.

"Around this time, Wilder, who had lived in the United States at one point during childhood, immigrated to there in 1969, settling in Florida, where he did very well for himself during a building boom in the electrical and construction business. He bought a nice home, began racing cars, and developed his photography hobby. (Michael Cartel points out in Disguise of Sanity that the diamond ring he wore was fake, his Porsche was twenty years old, and his nice home was constructed from leftover materials, so much of his glitter was a façade.) He got into real estate, which further enriched him. He had a speedboat, sporty cars, and a home with an indoor-outdoor pool. He was known to hold some wild parties."

Also, about Wilder:

"A couple of girls identified him from mug shots as the man who had grabbed them in Boynton Beach, Florida in 1983 and forced them to perform oral sex on him. They were ten and twelve."

His confirmed murders--The eight I earlier mentioned--were committed over a 47 day period. So this sick SOB killed 8 women in several different states in a little under 2 months.

Also, about Wilder:

"A couple of girls identified him from mug shots as the man who had grabbed them in Boynton Beach, Florida in 1983 and forced them to perform oral sex on him. They were ten and twelve."

His confirmed murders--The eight I earlier mentioned--were committed over a 47 day period. So this sick SOB killed 8 women in several different states in a little under 2 months.
I have heard the theory and the Charley Project mentions it as well. He also kidnapped a girl, repeatedly sexually assaulted her, and forced her to lure victims to him. She was later released. A movie called "Easy Prey" was made documenting her story. Her name is Tina Marie Risico (and she was abducted from my hometown and a mall I used to frequent often in Los Angeles)

I think it is a plausible theory, but for that Tammy was never found. What was his MO for leaving bodies?

I have heard the theory and the Charley Project mentions it as well. He also kidnapped a girl, repeatedly sexually assaulted her, and forced her to lure victims to him. She was later released. A movie called "Easy Prey" was made documenting her story. Her name is Tina Marie Risico (and she was abducted from my hometown and a mall I used to frequent often in Los Angeles)

I think it is a plausible theory, but for that Tammy was never found. What was his MO for leaving bodies?

Gravel Pits, Canals, Forests, Rivers, very out of the way places usually. Quite a few of his victims were disposed of in states quite far from where they lived. And his methods of killing varied a lot as well. He never left a victim out in the open. Some of his victims weren't found until months after he killed them. One unconfirmed victim wasn't found until this year or something like that.

Gravel Pits, Canals, Forests, Rivers, very out of the way places usually. Quite a few of his victims were disposed of in states quite far from where they lived. And his methods of killing varied a lot as well. He never left a victim out in the open. Some of his victims weren't found until months after he killed them. One unconfirmed victim wasn't found until this year or something like that.


Yep, there was a tv program about the recently IDd girl. She was 15 years old. Her body was found in a swamp in FL not long after she went missing in the 80s, but the ME's office didn't check for a known broken/healed bone when comparing the body to the missing girl and ended up burying her as a jane doe.

IIRC, she was positively identified about 7/2011. Dr. G commented on the case.... wish I could remember which show it was, it was on within the last couple weeks, and I think she's the one who made the ID.

The unidentified girl was Colleen Osborn:

http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/east-volusia/2011/02/02/dr-g-matches-missing-daytona-teens-dna.html

Knowing exactly what she said on the tapes--perhaps even hearing her voice how she sounded exactly--might help. Might offer up some clue. Would at least tell us WHY she called three times--what was she calling for

I'd like to know more about Keith and the out of town party that she attended as well.

The information is all too vague at this point. Why did she not walk over to her aunt's store, or get a lift there, or go to one of her other friends? I think any scenario involving foul play is more likely here than her wandering off, and she did seem to have some mental problems (whether it was the onset of a disorder or related to something she experienced or witnessed). I'll never understand why the police didn't consider Keith a stronger suspect at the time.

The unidentified girl was Colleen Osborn

Thanks for the info on Wilder's most recently IDd victim. Not only had I forgotten the name of the program that featured her case, I'd even forgotten Colleen's name. :(

One question I have: Has any serial killer ever commented, or has it ever been established--that serial killers feel SOMETHING of a conscience with their first murder victim?

In a movie I watched, a sadistic hitman said:

"Now the first time you kill somebody, that's the hardest. I don't give a s**t if you're f****n' Wyatt Earp or Jack the Ripper. Remember that guy in Texas? The guy up in that f****n' tower that killed all them people? I'll bet you green money that first little black dot he took a bead on, that was the b***h of the bunch. First one is tough, no f****n' foolin'. The second one... the second one ain't no f****n' Mardis Gras either, but it's better than the first one 'cause you still feel the same thing, y'know... except it's more diluted, y'know it's... it's better. I threw up on the first one, you believe that? Then the third one... the third one is easy, you level right off. It's no problem. Now... s**t... now I do it just to watch their f****n' expression change."

If Wilder's first was truly that first model in 1984, he didn't feel anything at all, because he very quickly moved on to the 2nd, 3rd, 4rd, 5th and so on. The fact that he was pretty good at disposing of bodies, with only eight confirmed murders under his belt in a little over a month's span, says to me he committed more, earlier murders--He honed the MO down. The man had sadistic, psychotic qualities going back to the 1970s, with a criminal record as a sexual assailant to back it up. He had a girlfriend a few years prior to the murders and at one point told her to leave because he was afraid he would hurt her. Showing he perhaps had violent fantasies, thoughts or even had acted out on them already.

I just find that Tami is a model who goes missing out of the blue, right around the same time and place where there's a serial killer on the loose who is friends with several models, and is known for throwing wild parties and is also stalking and killing models, too coincidental.

In a movie I watched, a sadistic hitman said:

Do you remember what movie it was? They got it wrong. The character was probably talking about Charles Whitman. His first victims weren't shot from the tower. He had murdered his mother at her house, then went home and murdered his wife. They were both stabbed to death. I think the rest of his victims were strangers that he shot hours later.

That totally changes the impact of that movie scene, imo. Knowing Whitman had already murdered his two closest relatives by stabbing them to death in their beds, then shot some people at close range as he made it to the top of the tower, by comparison, drawing "a bead on" a stranger from such a distance was probably not much of an emotional moment.

On autopsy, Whitman was found to have an aggressive brain tumor which authorities concluded could have affected his actions. I get the point the writer was trying to make but I bet the scene could have been better by paralleling a scarier killer.

oops... double post

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Might as well use this opportunity to address the original question: has it ever been established--that serial killers feel SOMETHING of a conscience with their first murder victim?

I don't recall reading any results of formal studies, but in all of the true crime books I've read, very few killers seem to have much remorse or indicate any kind of normal emotional responses to their first (or any) killings.

Charles Whitman expressed remorse for killing his wife and mother and claimed to have done it to relieve them of their miserable lives and send them on to heaven.

Franklin Floyd didn't seem to have any regrets. He even photographed one of his tortured victims as she died.

Wilder seemed to have connected emotionally with the one girl he let go, but he was so cruel, he planned out tortures in advance and made at least one torture device to use in the killings.

I've read about hitmen who didn't have any problems with their first kill. Even some people I've read about who have killed just once or killed a relative don't seem to have a conscience or have any qualms about killing people.

I don't know if any studies have been done (they must have been tho) on well known serial killers like Ridgeway and Bundy. From what I remember about their crimes, seems like they didn't have problems killing and Bundy may have even started out as a teen. They say a lot of serial killers start out killing animals. Maybe they desensitize themselves with that and have no problems crossing over to killing people.

The unidentified girl was Colleen Osborn:

http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/east-volusia/2011/02/02/dr-g-matches-missing-daytona-teens-dna.html



I'd like to know more about Keith and the out of town party that she attended as well.

The information is all too vague at this point. Why did she not walk over to her aunt's store, or get a lift there, or go to one of her other friends? I think any scenario involving foul play is more likely here than her wandering off, and she did seem to have some mental problems (whether it was the onset of a disorder or related to something she experienced or witnessed). I'll never understand why the police didn't consider Keith a stronger suspect at the time.


Holy smokes!! I just got through watching her story on Disappeared on ID On Demand.

Do you remember what movie it was? They got it wrong. The character was probably talking about Charles Whitman. His first victims weren't shot from the tower. He had murdered his mother at her house, then went home and murdered his wife. They were both stabbed to death. I think the rest of his victims were strangers that he shot hours later.

That totally changes the impact of that movie scene, imo. Knowing Whitman had already murdered his two closest relatives by stabbing them to death in their beds, then shot some people at close range as he made it to the top of the tower, by comparison, drawing "a bead on" a stranger from such a distance was probably not much of an emotional moment.

On autopsy, Whitman was found to have an aggressive brain tumor which authorities concluded could have affected his actions. I get the point the writer was trying to make but I bet the scene could have been better by paralleling a scarier killer.

The movie was True Romance, awesome gangster film from 1993 directed by Tony Scott, the script written by Quentin Tarantino.

This whole post is OFF TOPIC :crazy:

The movie was True Romance, awesome gangster film from 1993 directed by Tony Scott, the script written by Quentin Tarantino.

Quirky Quentin... now I understand. I'm sure he knows the true Whitman story, he was probably just doing his thing with the script like how he created his own version of history in IB.

I like some of his stuff, then others not so much.

I'm the only person I know who liked Inglorious Basterds, even tho practically the whole darn thing was subtitled. I understand very little french and german but I could follow along on some of it without the subs. Hubby hates reading subs so I had to read each subtitle out loud for him during the whole film. I watched it a few more times. He never watched it again! lol

Never get tired of watching the Kill Bill movies, and my son in law thinks that makes me even weirder. lol

Even tho I like Rose McGowan (always thought she was beautiful before she jacked up her face with that bad surgery) I didn't watch Grindhouse. It didn't seem like my kind of thing.

I've watched a few scenes of Pulp Fiction, but haven't gotten a chance to see the whole movie yet.

Now I'm going to have to rent True Romance. I just looked it up and the cast includes Samuel L. Jackson, Gary Oldman, Christopher Walken, and Bronson Pinchot! I might have to skip the scenes with Brad Pitt. blah. He was okay in IB, but the only movie I actually liked him in was Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Yep, there was a tv program about the recently IDd girl. She was 15 years old. Her body was found in a swamp in FL not long after she went missing in the 80s, but the ME's office didn't check for a known broken/healed bone when comparing the body to the missing girl and ended up burying her as a jane doe.

IIRC, she was positively identified about 7/2011. Dr. G commented on the case.... wish I could remember which show it was, it was on within the last couple weeks, and I think she's the one who made the ID.


I just saw that and I think it might have been an episode of Dsiappeared about her. BTW- Dr G rocks!

I was thinking about her and typed in her name on Google and found a few interesting things. One is that she may have been the victim of the "Vampire Rapist" John Crutchley. Here is more information about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brennan_Crutchley.

They also think that she could've been the victim of Christopher Wilder, the "model killer": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wilder.

I also found this age-progression photo of her. It's also on her Charley Project profile: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/430683_336608319714110_100000948351158_934468_107056866_n.jpg

This "Jane Doe" bust was also found but I don't think it's her: http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399869_336608799714062_100000948351158_934469_1989663022_n.jpg

Has anyone speculated on whether Tammy could've been an early victim of Christoper Wilder, the "Model Killer" who killed at least four teenaged models in Florida between February and March of 1984. Interestingly, one of those Florida victims was a "Miss Florida" model who had known him before he killed her--He stalked models besides killing them.

Between February and April 1984, he killed at least 8 women; He is suspected in several other murders in Florida. Some of these women were abducted in one state and killed and their bodies were dumped in another. He also routinely dumped bodies in Canals, Pits or Woods.

He also raped several young women and molested several teenaged girls in the 1970s-1982. Between 1982-March 1984, he was in Florida, awaiting trial for forcing two 15 year old girls whom he forced to pose nude for him.

He also used multiple vehicles, sometimes taking vehicles from his victims and using them, transferring his own stolen plates to their cars.

His MO by luring them into his car or to a meeting with him under the pretense of photographing them for a modeling contract. However, some he outright abducted--In his last Florida murder, he assaulted and abducted a 19 year old co-ed from a shopping mall parking lot after she turned down his offer to photograph her for a modeling agency.

Per Wikipedia:

"When she declined his offer to photograph her for a modeling agency, he assaulted her in the mall parking lot, wrapped her in a blanket and put her into the trunk of his car after binding her hands. In a motel room that night, he raped her then used a blow dyer and super glue in order to blind her and tortured her by applying copper wires to her feet and passing an electric current through them. When she tried to escape he threatened to kill her, and a fight ensued where she was beaten and bleeding. He fled after she locked herself in the bathroom and started pounding on the walls. Wilder fled in his car, taking all of her belongings with him. Finally she had to search for help by opening the door of the bathroom. Hotel guests and owners thought the incident was a case of domestic violence, and her screams for help were ignored."

He was eventually corned by police in April 1984. He killed himself with his gun before he could be taken into custody.

Also: His first Florida victim was also a "Miss Florida" contestant, and she was his girlfriend. He apparently even asked her to marry him, she thought he was a real gentlemen but too old for her. He was friends with her for two years before murdering her in 1984. Is it not possible that perhaps Wilder was at the party Tammy went to (given he hung around in model's circles), and he assaulted her, or she witnessed him raping/assaulting a girl she knew?

Wilder hung around the Miami Racetrack--was sometimes involved in races there, and he was often around that area--The Miami area itself, though his murders spanned both the east and west coast.

He had been seeing a therapist, to who he confided his preference for girls with long hair and his fantasy of holding a woman captive.

He had several vehicles including a Porsche and Chrysler sedan.

"Around this time, Wilder, who had lived in the United States at one point during childhood, immigrated to there in 1969, settling in Florida, where he did very well for himself during a building boom in the electrical and construction business. He bought a nice home, began racing cars, and developed his photography hobby. (Michael Cartel points out in Disguise of Sanity that the diamond ring he wore was fake, his Porsche was twenty years old, and his nice home was constructed from leftover materials, so much of his glitter was a façade.) He got into real estate, which further enriched him. He had a speedboat, sporty cars, and a home with an indoor-outdoor pool. He was known to hold some wild parties."

I saw this episode on FBI Files. You raise some good points. Too bad that moron killed himself.

Here's an interesting article that was written about Tami in 1980, 3 years before she vanished and was a rising star near her home in Florida.

She mentions that acting is her dream, that it's in her blood and even mentions wanting to win an Academy Award.

Also, a very interesting quote she makes about modeling: "I don't want to do much more modeling. For some reason, people look down on models and beauty queens. I've found out who I am through those experiences. I think I have the talent to go on to bigger and better things."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=L_4eAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BJgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6685,4631116&dq=tami+lynn+leppert+florida&hl=en

Here's an interesting article that was written about Tami in 1980, 3 years before she vanished and was a rising star near her home in Florida.

She mentions that acting is her dream, that it's in her blood and even mentions wanting to win an Academy Award.

Also, a very interesting quote she makes about modeling: "I don't want to do much more modeling. For some reason, people look down on models and beauty queens. I've found out who I am through those experiences. I think I have the talent to go on to bigger and better things."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=L_4eAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BJgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6685,4631116&dq=tami+lynn+leppert+florida&hl=en

I really wonder what Tammy would be doing today if she hadn't disappeared. I think because she started working early she might have really grown as an actress.

possible,but I really think she was very mentally ill,and unless she's gotten treatment for it,her condition would have likely only become worse,to the point she wouldnt be able to work much,if at all;certainly,that seemed to be the case at such a young age for her already.

I know I'm really late on this, but it's taken me forever to read up on everything about this case here as well as some other sources. This is one of the more fascinating cases to me. I have a couple of thoughts I'd like to get some input on.

I don't think Tammy is alive, in fact I think the guy who took her for a ride probably knows more than we think. I wonder if he was given a lie detector test. I think she was pregnant with his child, and she was in fact on her way to get an abortion that day, and had the guy meet her at the house and quickly left. I don't think she wanted anyone to know what she was doing. Now as for the phone calls to her Aunt I don't think they occurred after she was kicked out of the car. With no information on the contents of the message it's possible she told the guy she wanted to make a phone call, he waited in the car and she frantically called someone to come help her. That's also why she couldn't just walk the few blocks to the store. She probably called her aunt, knowing she was close, and pleaded with her to come pick her up. Unless the message said that she had been left at the bank she probably was still in the company of that guy. And if he did leave her there, she would have walked to the store. I think he killed her and the police need to take another look. If he had an alibi that was corroborated by someone else, it's possible that person is lying as well.

The other thing that I noticed I got a real creepy vibe from Wing during the UM segment. He seemed like a weird man-child. I read the article where Tammy's mother passed away and it listed him as her "long time partner". Was that in a romantic way? If I'm not mistaken she was 18, he was probably around 12 to 14 at the time of her kidnapping, and he ended up being Linda's "partner":eek: Anyone know if it was romantic? I wonder how long that relationship was going on and how it started.

I read the article where Tammy's mother passed away and it listed him as her "long time partner". Was that in a romantic way? If I'm not mistaken she was 18, he was probably around 12 to 14 at the time of her kidnapping, and he ended up being Linda's "partner":eek: Anyone know if it was romantic? I wonder how long that relationship was going on and how it started.
Really?? I had no idea. I had thought that she was just in the same business and representing him. I always thought it was odd that he lived at the house but perhaps he was from far away and his parents trusted his rep (who already was living with her own child) to take care of him? I would also like this statement clarified, because I always assumed she was just looking after his career.

It was mentioned a few pages back that Linda and Tammy actually lived with Wing and his parents at THEIR house. In the UM reenactment, they just never had any actors play Wing's parents.

I found the house on Google Maps last year...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TammyPIC2.jpg

As for the longtime partner label, I highly, highly, HIGHLY doubt it was anything romantic. Linda was Wing's talent agent the same time she was Tammy's. They worked together for many years. I assume that's where the "long time partner," label came up. Besides, I've never heard of a heterosexual couple where someone referred to their significant other as a longtime "partner." I think you're reading waaaaaaaaay too much into that little tidbit.

As to your theories, I guess anything is possible. But the fact that Tammy was barefoot and carried no purse or identification on her makes me doubt that she was on her way to have an abortion. Being barefoot, I would think she wasn't planning on being away long. The guy said they drove to the beach and talked, which I think sounds plausible. As to whether or not he really dropped her off at the bank, that's up in the air. But the 3 frantic phone calls she made to her aunt were made from an Exon gas station which was just a block away from the bank. Keep in mind she left three messages. I don't know why a killer/abductor would allow their victim to make a phone call to ANYONE let alone 3 phone calls.

I guess one of the biggest letdowns in this case is the fact that the aunt was out of town when Tammy made those calls. Had she been at work that day, she might have been able to get more information from Tammy herself as to what the heck was going on. Then maybe the police would have more information to go on instead of just writing her off as a runaway. This case could very well have been solved decades ago because of this bad stroke of luck. That fact alone must have been devastating to the family all these years.

I think it was a crime of passion. I don't think the guy intended to kill her that day, but rather committed the act after their fight.

I think Disappeared should do a segment on her.

RE: Wing being named as Tammy's mom's long time partner...

Is it possible that by this time he was considered to be her business partner and it wasn't a personal romantic partner type relationship?

Dynoguy, I don't think it's caught on here in the US, but I noticed that in the UK's news stores, hetero couples, even married couples, refer to each other as partners rather than spouse, gf, bf, husband, or wife. Can any of our UK members comment on this? I'm only getting my info from news stories, so don't know if it's just a reporting style or if the term is actually used in everyday life there.

The other thing that I noticed I got a real creepy vibe from Wing during the UM segment.

I did as well. There was just something slightly "off" about him, although I'm not sure if it's general weirdness or "does he know more?"

I found the house on Google Maps last year...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/TammyPIC2.jpg

The house used in the UM segment (where Tammy smashed the window) wasn't that house?


One question I have: Has any serial killer ever commented, or has it ever been established--that serial killers feel SOMETHING of a conscience with their first murder victim?


I think I remember watching some docu where BTK was indicating the above. Not sure if it was "conscience" or was just that the first was the hardest.

Originally posted by dynoguy88:

But the fact that Tammy was barefoot and carried no purse or identification on her makes me doubt that she was on her way to have an abortion.


Although UM reported this as such, it is actually untrue. Tammy did have her shoes at the time, and she was also carrying a gray purse, which may be presumed, carried her identification and a little money. This might explain why her friend dropped her off on the street, as it is doubtful he would have let her go shoeless and penniless.

I find it very weird that many reports (including UM) state that she was barefoot and purseless. How did that erroneous information get spread?

I find it very weird that many reports (including UM) state that she was barefoot and purseless. How did that erroneous information get spread?

I do not know. Perhaps she was carrying her shoes and walked out barefoot, or had her shoes in her purse. I personally feel it added to the image of Tammy being portrayed as mentally unstable.

The only unusual thing her mother noted was that Tammy failed to brush her hair when she left. She was always meticulous about doing her hair and makeup to look nice. This time she didn't bother.

Tonight, 22MAY13, Tami was again featured on Unsolved Mysteries on the Lifetime Channel. Sadly, still unsolved and no new leads.
In reference to some questions about Wing being "Linda's longtime partner": Wing was a business partner in Linda's agency, Galaxy Studios (don't know if he was a full partner). He produced and filmed the scenes and vignettes that were done for Galaxy that were submitted to various audition agencies.
As for Keith, the guy who "supposedly" dropped Tami off in Cocoa Beach...Why would he have left her there 10 miles from home, with no shoes on, no purse with her and no way to get back home? If he really had dropped her off there, someone would have seen her. Besides the Glass Bank being there and the gas station, there was also a Krystle's burger joint, Winn-Dixie grocery store, a pharmacy, a TG&Y, a pizza place, an ABC Liquor store and night club, and Brassie's night club just to name a few businesses there, and some condos. I don't know what she said in her messages to her aunt who apparently was out of town for the July 4th holiday, but I really wonder if Keith was being truthful.
It seems weird that Keith suddenly showed up from Orlando out of the clear blue. And when Tami got into the car with him, she obviously didn't think they were going anywhere far since she had left her shoes and purse behind.
The police weren't very "nice" with Tami's mother from what I understand and just basically blew the case off as a legal aged runaway.
I do believe that Tami was very distraught over something at the time and had heard that it had something to do with the movie, "Scarface", during filming.
Tami was a sweetheart; I miss her.

I'll update you on my sister Tammy's case.So far there has been no leads for a very long time.I have not discussed her case because LE does not like alot of discussion or bickering on her case any more.There are alot things I feel just the police should look into and I just let them handle it and look into it.Please just call the police if you know anything on my sisters case.They have always worked with me for many years and I know they will look into your lead.They have been looking for her.I do trust the CBPD are doing their best to find her.If anyone knows anything on Tammy please let me know.Is she alive or dead.I have looked for her for many years and I please just want to know what happened to her.Please.

I'll update you on my sister Tammy's case.So far there has been no leads for a very long time.

Thanks so much for sharing that information, and I'm so sorry there hasn't been any new in the search for Tammy.

Hi, suzanne,I watch the show last night and was very sad what I learn what tammy went thru! If I was her brother or sister I would investigate that party she went too after the movie spring break cause she was not the same when she came back! And the boyfriend who drop her off!!! I would tell cocoa bch pd to give him a lie detector test to clear him! It would make me feel much better to see if he had anything to do with tammy's dissappearance!That needs to be done!! And after he dropped her off,she made the 3 phone calls across from the bank at the gas station!She was very afraid! ,And suzzanne, what I think was the boyfriend went back to find her and saw her at the gas station and he pick her up there and took her somewhere and did something to her!Plz suzzanne follow thru with this and let us know!If I was her brother or sister I would've done this a long time ago for a peace of mind!My prays are with you and God bless!!

This has always been an unsolved mysteries segment that has scared the living hell out of me. What that poor girl must have gone through... It sounds to me like she ended up with knowledge of something she wasn't suppose to have without intending too. Maybe she was with someone who was making a drug exchange/deal without knowing that's what it was until it was too late. Maybe someone bragged to her about an underground operation they were part of, then later made threats to keep her quiet and from going to the police. Maybe she was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

It's been speculated that Tammy might have been 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. If she WAS indeed pregnant, that could have been a major factor in part of why her behavior had turned so irrational and crazy. Between hormones, stress, and fear.... Well, I'd of had a breakdown too...

I'd like to know more about the "friend" that dropped her off, and what his relationship with Tammy was like. I think he knows more then he's saying, and I think it's him that probably holds the key to all this.

yeah that friend who dropped her off is definetly suspect.

People talk a lot when they're cooped up together. I wonder if they ever talked to patients and/or staff of the ward she was in? Not that patients would be deemed credible in the eyes of the law, but it could be a start.

And I thought it was weird how they made I look like her mother was with her during her stay at the facility. Never been to one where family members are just hanging out with the patients.

Oh, I'm not thinking of drugs. I've been in a mental facility before and there are a lot of opportunities to share/talk with others individually and group sessions. I'm wondering if she may have shared details with strangers she would have thought wouldn't be in harms way if she told.

I agree that it's likely she really did see something.

Maybe she was just tired of her mom...

Maybe she saw something very creepy ....

Maybe both are posibilities.... When i looked at tammy's mom i have the impression she was very possesive.... Maybe tammy's was tired about mom directing her career.... At 16-17 one wants some privacy.... No one wants a possesive mother... Im not saying mrs leppert was a bad woman , but maybe very controlling and obssesive about tammy's future as a Model, actress or other kind of star.

And if she became pregnant it would have been a 'problem' in her future career....

It will be 30 years on the 6th :( I wish this could be solved.

There is also a facebook account someone set up......no likes......It says, "be the first" I wonder if I click like we could find out who set it up? :O

I didn't want to double post, so i'll just edit what i originally wrote... after reading a whole bunch of threads thoroughly between this site and some others.. i have a whole bunch of questions now.. lol

If it was claimed that Tammy feared the last person who she was with, why was it that she was in the car with him? I don't understand if she feared Keith supposedly, why be in the car and why not bring shoes? [even though there are conflicting reports about the shoes/barefoot and having no money/gray purse] - i wonder which parts are actually accurate.. and we don't exactly know what Keith said to the police was factual. In fact, even if he was administered a lie detector, some people can still get away with it..

and did any of her siblings hear the recordings that were left on the aunt's answering machine? The fact that we don't know what was said on the answering machine, one could speculate that it was made up, to bring "hysteria" to the case.. especially since she's an actress... build it up even more to make one think something is happening, when it's not..

Then I've read reports about this T.Rue person who knew Tammy around the time she disappeared and has implied that it was a planned disappearance, everyone around her was involved in aiding her disappearance, and all that.. i saw a picture of him that someone posted, and i find it kinda bizarre and eerie that he would have a poster of Tammy in his bedroom? He looks like he's some crazed, obsessive fan of her with that on his wall and he claims that people had been harassing him about the case. Why have that on your wall if you don't want people to bother you about the case? It's just a little weird to me...

Another thing that sticks out is the fact if Curtis is the maiden name of Tammy's mother, do you think that it's possible Tammy could have changed her last name to Curtis? How many children did Linda have in total and how many did Tammy's father have? How many siblings are there, including the adopted twin sisters? Do any of the children have the Curtis last name? Did her mother ever re-marry?

Now i found a link where there's a mugshot of a "Tammy Lynn Leppert" from 2005... i don't know if this is a relative of the Leppert family, but she is also short with blonde hair...

http://kentucky.arrests.org/Arrests/Tammy_Leppert_10080904/

Then i went to that Brian's Prediction place, and read that Suzanne wrote that in Brian's dream, she was found alive and well... when i checked out his website, it even says on the link:

http://briansprediction.com/found/2013-missing-found-safe-leppert-tammy.html

FOUND... 2013 MISSING, FOUND SAFE ?

if she was found safe like this link suggests, then why hasn't there been any updates? Why aren't there any websites also stating she has been found safe and alive? This doesn't make sense to me...

I definitely have a feeling that she could be alive. Though she may have feared for her life, that could have been true...she may have seen something at that party, [but WHO WAS she with? Did she have FRIENDS with her there? Where are those people and were they questioned??] she wasn't supposed to.. but i think her fleeing from her house and disappearing without "saying" anything is probably the most logical lead... and i think the reason why no one had said anything to the adopted twin sisters was because she didn't know they existed, and even if she did, they didn't have THAT kind of sisterly bond with them to divulge into information and maybe that's how some of her relatives still feel today. Unfortunately, you're not going to like every single family member or trust them...

Tammy Lynn Leppert has been missing 30 years as of today (July 6th, 2013). Is her case still being openly investigated?

BUMP

for Tammy Lynn...


I came across this psychic website that does tarot readings and apparently they did Tammy Lynn's case and they basically stated that she died the same day she disappeared... yet in the comments below, other posters are saying "people know the only missing is the celebrity name of "Tammy Lynn Leppert" as she went through a name change" ...which could be true and she could have faked her disappearance... :confused:

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2009/03/tammy-lynn-leppert.html

This has always been an unsolved mysteries segment that has scared the living hell out of me. What that poor girl must have gone through... It sounds to me like she ended up with knowledge of something she wasn't suppose to have without intending too. Maybe she was with someone who was making a drug exchange/deal without knowing that's what it was until it was too late. Maybe someone bragged to her about an underground operation they were part of, then later made threats to keep her quiet and from going to the police. Maybe she was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

It's been speculated that Tammy might have been 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. If she WAS indeed pregnant, that could have been a major factor in part of why her behavior had turned so irrational and crazy. Between hormones, stress, and fear.... Well, I'd of had a breakdown too...

I'd like to know more about the "friend" that dropped her off, and what his relationship with Tammy was like. I think he knows more then he's saying, and I think it's him that probably holds the key to all this.

I think this is the most plausible theory too. Even first seeing the segment as a kid circa 1994, I immediately wondered why her friend/boyfriend Rick, wasn't questioned or investigated further. He'd seem to be the prime suspect, or one of them! Even if his story is entirely true, that they'd argued and he was mad at her, I don't care how angry he possibly could've been, to let her out of the car 5 miles from home (and still in danger) was pretty cold in the very least.

Hindsight is always 20/20 after the fact, but I was always really annoyed with that other kid, Wing (the guy living with them, whom was also working with her mom), who harrassed Tami a bit and just kinda blew her off without trying to really understand what she was going through. Her mom was probably, albeit well-meaning, a workaholic (both in her profession as a talent agent, and pushing Tammy herself) and might've not paid as much attention as she should have until it was too late.

No doubt she witnessed or overheard something very dangerous at that party. I doubt simple drug dealers would go to that much of an extent, so chances are it had something to do with murder, the mafia, or some other kind of organized crime.

I think this is the most plausible theory too. Even first seeing the segment as a kid circa 1994, I immediately wondered why her friend/boyfriend Rick, wasn't questioned or investigated further. He'd seem to be the prime suspect, or one of them! Even if his story is entirely true, that they'd argued and he was mad at her, I don't care how angry he possibly could've been, to let her out of the car 5 miles from home (and still in danger) was pretty cold in the very least.

Rick Adams wasn't the boy who came and picked her up the day she disappeared. That was someone else, I'm not sure if his name was ever released, but he was questioned by police. Rick Adams was just a long time friend who saw Tammy the day before she disappeared.

Here is an excerpt about Rick from an article about the case that was written in 1992:

Rick Adams was one of the few people Tami-Lynn Leppert trusted to the end. "It's hard to say why, really" Adams says. "Maybe it's because I never really wanted anything from her. "now 27, Adams sifts through his pictures. Pointing out the times he escorted her to both his junior and senior proms at Cocoa High School. It was one of those hard-to-catagorize teenage relationships- not exactly a hot romance, but not exactly little sister/big brother either. He knows only one thing for sure. "She could've dated anybody she wanted to. "They drifted apart after he graduated. Perhaps that was inevitable."Tami had alot of pressure about her apearance in public, "Adam recalls. "Because of who she was, she felt like she had this image she had to live up to. Everything she did was, like, fine-tooth combed. Her make up had to be just right, every hair had to be in place, what she wore had to be perfect. It drove me crazy, to tell the truth. I got burned out on the whole thing, with with so many people hanging around, so many people coming up to her. It was almost like having to compete for attention, and I
wasn't into that." but shortly before she disappeared, Adams says Tami began confiding in him, telling him that someone was trying to kill her. He says the fear was real. "I knew it wasn't drugs. I can say for sure that Tami wasn't into drugs. She didn't even drink. "Finally, on Tuesday evening July 5, 1983. Tami told Rick she had "seen something she shouldn't have seen" She didn't get aspecific. They went to pray at Rockville Evangel Temple. "Tami cried as hard as I've seen anyone cry before" Adams says.He dropped her off in front of her house around 11 that night. They made planned to go back to church Wednesday afternoon."And then." Adams says "She looked at me and said. I just want you to know that I may have to go away for a while. But I also want you to know that I love you." Then they hugged each other, and held the embrace for as long as it took. Rick Adams never got a chance to ask her what she meant. He called late the next morning to reconfirm their date. She was already gone.

Even if his story is entirely true, that they'd argued and he was mad at her, I don't care how angry he possibly could've been, to let her out of the car 5 miles from home (and still in danger) was pretty cold in the very least.

According to the Charley Project, Tammy was afraid of the man she got a ride from. I definitely want some more information about that. Tammy didn't tell her mom what she had seen or who was trying to kill her, the mysterious ''he'' she kept bringing up. But she told her mom that she was afraid of this alleged friend. Did she give a reason? Why was she afraid of him and why would she get in the car with him, even assuming that this is a separate matter and nothing to do with her other fears related to the terrible thing she had witnessed?

In any case, every time I watch this segment I wonder if he really did drop her off at that intersection.

According to the Charley Project, Tammy was afraid of the man she got a ride from. I definitely want some more information about that. Tammy didn't tell her mom what she had seen or who was trying to kill her, the mysterious ''he'' she kept bringing up. But she told her mom that she was afraid of this alleged friend. Did she give a reason? Why was she afraid of him and why would she get in the car with him, even assuming that this is a separate matter and nothing to do with her other fears related to the terrible thing she had witnessed?

In any case, every time I watch this segment I wonder if he really did drop her off at that intersection.

Wow, thanks for the info. I was really mixing my details up. Yeah, you'd think with as (rightfully) terrified as she was for months before her disappearance, she'd have never left the house and gotten in a car with that guy. Maybe she just let her guard down very briefly, and it ended up costing her? :(

I also wonder if there were any witnesses to them apparently fighting, and him kicking her out of the car? Was he ever investigated further?

It's interesting that her mom said she knew she wouldn't see Tami again when she went out the front door? Well, ever since I first saw the segment, I was screaming in my head, "Then geez woman, how about you actually get off the damn phone and GO OUT THERE!" Someone briefly mentioned earlier, how she may have made a conscious decision to disappear, maybe to get away from her overbearing mom? I'm not trying to beat up on her, since we don't know the whole story. But being pushed to succeed in modeling competitions and such might've had a bigger effect on her than anyone realized. We've all heard stories about obnoxious stage parents/little league parents, who push their dreams onto their kids and take all the fun out of it.

Huh. I find all of that interesting. I had always leaned toward abduction, but that article makes me believe there is a very real possibility she left on her own accord. The thing is though, she was strikingly beautiful so it seems like if she voluntarily disappeared, she would stick out in a crowd, so to speak. Unless she altered her appearance.

In any case, every time I watch this segment I wonder if he really did drop her off at that intersection.

I wondered about that for years until I read the article online which said that the afternoon, she left 3 frantic phone messages for her aunt who worked at a costume shop nearby. The phone calls were traced back to a phone booth outside a gas station which was just half a block from the bank where the boy said he dropped Tami off after their fight. That might suggest that he really did drop her off where he said he did. Otherwise, it's huge coincidence.

If she were running away or even trying to stage a kidnapping, I don't think she would have gone through the trouble of making three separate phone calls. And the fact that she made multiple attempts to call her aunt who worked close by and not her mother, who was a longer drive away in Rockledge, suggests to me that she needed to get out of there in a hurry. Alas, the aunt was out of town at the time.

Here's a few old articles about the case. I'm sure they were posted about a dozen pages back but this will help keep some of the facts about the case accurate for everyone here.
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It was the last interview she gave before the fairy tale disintegrated, And she was good at it: Poised engaging, An easy
smile that could melt glacial skepticism. Naturally she was good. She was a pro. Four hundred-ten talent and beauty
contests since age 4. Two hundred-eighty trophies.
She just turned 18. And she was at a crossroad. Her latest flirtation with hollywood-a cinemetic turkey called
"Spring Break"-had just been released.But she harbored no illusions about it. Her non-speaking role as a bikinied nymphet
carried no more weight than her erlier camoes in "Little Darlings" and "Scarface."
What "Spring Break" represented was the latest stop in a carefully nurtured ascent to movie stardom. If visibility
management meant getting tami's curvaceous hips splashed across a movie poster (Four college dudes erecting a
"Spring Break" flag atop them, Reminiscent of the allied triumph at Iwo Jima), That was good enough for now.
And if Tami-Lynn leppert felt compelled to feign embarrasment over this no-talent coup by crossing her eyes and making a
goofy face, These were times for celebration.
Or so it seemed.
At least three producers were talking major roles in upcoming projects. One critic, Steve Walz, Was projecting her to be
"One of the stars of the 80's" involving her name in the same breath with Brooke Shields and insisting, "She's not just
another dumb blonde"
Model, Dancer, Beauty Queen, Covergirl at age 13. Five-feet five, Hazel eyes, 105 pounds. A can't miss resume. A magnetic
aura that turned the heads of men and boys alike, Pulling strangers and their promises into her orbit.
But somewhere inside those invisible walls, Beyond the curiosity of judges and talent scouts, A bomb was ticking. Those
familiar with the sound never understood until it was much too late:
The weight of expectations.
A web of paranoia.
Broken glass.
On July 6, 1983, Tami-lynn Leppert went for a ride and vanished so cleanly it was as if she'd never existed.
Nearly seven years later, Beneath the cobwebs of distance. There isn't even a shrine to commemorate what was. Only a
question: Was Tami the architect and star of the perfect getaway or the victim of a perfect crime?

TAMI'S MOTHER/AGENT
Linda Curtis moved from Brevard County three years ago,
Primarily to shake the emptiness she felt every time
she saw something that reminded her of Tami.
Which was always.
curtis lives in orlando, Where she conducts her modeling business from a home she only half-jokingly refers to as
"The Cave." An artist with eccentric notions stucco edifice himself-Its few windows are primarily ventilation caliber.
Having been spotlighted nationally by life magazine and ABC's "20/20" for her talents as one of America's most succesful
child modeling agents. Curtis might well be expected to enjoy a lifestyle commensurate with her abilities.
But nothing ever come easy for Linda Curtis.
After a series of heart attacks, Chronic diabetes and a ruptured tendon in her foot, her mobility is relegated to a walker
and a wheelchair. She doesn't want her picture taken. And there is the heavy emotional baggage to contend with, Which includes
two husbands, Five children and rip-offs by business assotiates
By 1983 only daughter Tami remained a part of her household. Today, Even Tami is a memory-which Curtis is still attempting
to manage, Via book and a screen-play.
Predictably, The story will accent all those magic moments only a mother can recite so well:
The time her nine-year-old daughter surrendered a beauty pageant to the broken hearted runner-up after an official mistakenly
announced the other girl the winner, The time Tami " sold more Girl Scout cookies than anyone else in Brevard County".
Tami as a philanthropist who made special visits to Brevard County Detention Center inmates on Christmas Eve: A popular
little girl who "Was always sticking up for the underdog."
But Curtis plans to unsheathe a more pointed edge in the book. Contrary to what some people think, she insists that her
daughter was no runaway. Tami, she charges, was yanked into the shadows by a conspiracy involving prominent Brevardians
whose names, would make trial lawyers eyes light up with dollar signs.
" I want people over there to know I'm writing a book," She says referring to a project (no actual names used) she's been
tolling over for months. "I want to shake them up. I want the criminal to know they can't absorb my child-or anyone's child-
wothout ulimately paying the penalty for it."

TAMI-LYNN LEPPERT
now resides in the computer memory bank of Florida Crime Information center. A comunity of 5,944, roughly the size of Indian
Harbour Beach. She can be found there alongside another cocoa beach entry Keith D. Fleming. who vanished in 1977 at age 13.
Cocoa Beach Police Capt. Bob Wicker is mildly indignant over curtis' allegation that his department blew the investigation
of Tami's disappearance. He says he coudn't find a hint of foul play.
"I can't say there was anything unusual about the case. Other than some faintly problems I understand she was having at
home" Wicker says. "The agent in charge was a real go-getter. He he was the type the sees communists behind every tree,
if you know what I mean."
The case fell into the departments lap when Tami, a Rockledge resident, was last reported seen in Cocoa Beach. Among other
things, Curtis says the young man who picked up her daughter up on the morning of July 6, 1983, was never thoroughly
interrogated. She says that Tami once told her that she feared the same man-A businessman-wanted to kill her.
Wicker dismisses.
"Nothing in the report has him down as a suspect" He says. "We have no reason to believe he did anything wrong, at this
time."
Wicker says he has no current Address on the man Tami was last seen with. Because the case is still pending, he says,
records on the investigation remain closed.

"FAMILY PROBLEMS"
Tami-Lynn Leppert lived in fear shortly before she vanished. Strangers prowled around the eyes of those she knew best.
She woudn't drink from open containers; She only ate food from someone else's plate, Not hers; She stayed in her room and
refused to answer the door. Linda Curtis concedes these things. She says she got her first glimpse of deterioration the
year before, When Tami broke down on the set of Brian DePalma's cocaine-war thriller, "Scarface." A blood-and-guts scene
during the filming sent her into hysterics.
But Curtis insists that Tami's authentic tears were rooted in a confession that would consume her. Tami told her mother that
how in an effort to score points, a friend bragged to her on a large-scale, drug-money laundering operation in Brevard. Cops,
Bankers, Leading citizens-the people in on the take were powerful, powerful enough to make Tami fear she knew too much.
Curtis says she told Tami to make a report with the Brevard County Sheriff's Department.
Officer Mike Wong, now with the department's drug task force , says he vaguely remembers his meeting with Tami. "It was so
long ago," Wong says "and the best I can recollect , the the conversation didn't have anything to do with anyone trying to
kill her. I think she came in to talk about some stolen propety she wanted back."
Wong expresses bewilderment over the drug scenario. "the last I heard, they thought that racecar driver was involved."
That referance is to serial killer Christopher Wilder.
Before he was shot to death in a tussle with a state trooper on the canadian border in spring 1984, Wilder's murder spree
lanced Brevard. The FBI linked Wilder-A Grand Prix aficianado who posed as a fashion phographer-with the abduction and
murder aspiring Satelite Beach model Terry Ferguson , last seen at Merritt square mall.
Curtis filled a $1 million wrongul death sult against wilders astate that year. She says Wilder met her daughter daughter
on the set of "Spring Break" in fort lauderdale and traveled to Brevard in a fruitless effort to convince Curtis to let
him photograph Tami.
Curtis said she never considered Wilder a strong suspect. She says she only sued the Wilder estate luring the manhunt to
force him to answer questions about Tami. She dropped the lawsuit after wilder's death.

RICK ADAMS
WAS one of the few people Tami-Lynn Leppert trusted to the end. "It's hard to say why, really" Adams says. "Maybe it's
because I never really wanted anything from her. "now 27, Adams sifts through his pictures. Pointing out the times he
escorted her to both his junior and senior proms at Cocoa High School. It was one of those hard-to-catagorize teen-age
relationships-not exactly a hot romance, but not exactly little sister/big brother either. He knows only one thing for sure
"She could've dated anybody she wanted to. "They drifted apart after he graduated. Perhaps that was inevitable."Tami had alot
of pressure about her apearance in public, "Adam recalls. "Because of who she was, she felt like she had this image she had
to live up to. Everything she did was, like, fine-tooth combed. Her make up had to be just right, every hair had to be in
place, what she wore had to be perfect. It drove me crazy, to tell the truth. I got burned out on the whole thing, with with
so many people hanging around, so many people coming up to her. It was almost like having to compete for attention, and I
wasn't into that." but shortly before she disappeared, Adams says Tami began confiding in him, telling him that someone was
trying to kill her. He says the fear was real. "I knew it wasn't drugs. I can say for sure that Tami wasn't into drugs. She
didn't even drink. "Finally, on Tuesday evening July 5, 1983. Tami told Adam she had "seen something she shouldn't have
seen" She didn't get aspecific. They went to pray at Rockville Evangel Temple. "Tami cried as hard as I've seen anyone cry
before" Adams says.He dropped her off in front of her house around 11 that night . They made pland to go back to church
wednsday afternoon."And then." Adams says "She looked at me and said. I just want you to know that I may have to go away for
a while. But I also want you to know that I love you."
Then they hugged each other, and held the embrace for as long as it took.
Rick Adams never got a chance to ask her what she meant. He called late the next morning to reconfirm their date.
She was already gone.

CURTIS CONCEDES TAMI
had been restless, that her career hadn't advances as quickly as she wanted. She says Tami was preparing to pursue some
acting leads waiting for her in California.
But paranioa engulfed her first. It was the last of June, first of July 1983.
"Tami went outside for some reason-which seemed strange, considering how she afraid to go outside-when the door slammed
and locked behind her. I think a gust of wind caught it." Curtis says. "Anyway, she went berserk. She bashed the window with
a baseball bat she picked up in the front yard, and she reached her and inside to unlock the door. "She came running in,
Yelling and screaming, but before she could do anything I pinned her against the wall and kept saying. " I love you, Tami I
love you Tami, over and over again, And then she went limp."
The next day Curtis checked Tami into the Brevard mental health center for 72 hour observation. " Then they released her and
said she was normal as far as they could tell." Curtis says. "So we were all set to check her with another psycho therapist.
But We were too late."
Curtis was sitting in the house that wednsday morning when she heard a car horn beep out front. Tami peered out the window
and went out the door. she was wearing a light blue blouse, a denim shirt and was barefoot. She stuck her head back in and
said "bye mommy, I'll see you in a little bit, OK?"
"For some reason, I was preoccupied that day and I didn't pay much attention to it, and I'll never forgive myself for that."
Curtis says. On the other hand since her daughter did not have her purse. curtis didn't think she was going far.
Ten minutes later, Curtis heard the car engine crank up. She rose to see what was going on. Tami was riding away in the
car of the young man she suppossedly feared.
It was 11 a.m. Linda Curtis never saw her daughter again.

THE LAST REPORTED
contact Tami attempted came in a flurry of calls she made that wednesday afternoon.
Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch
was out of town, Tami said she was calling from a nearby location.
"Tami was definately afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real, I'm convinced of that."
Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash.

"DID YOU EVER
see her play Peter Pan?" asks Rick Adams. "Linda's got it on video."
The performance in an enduring image in Adams' memory, a special place for the little girl he thought was destined to be a star.
This is the one where Tami-Lynn Leppert, dressed as the famous boy-who-wouldn't-grow-up, is confronted with a dying Tinkerbell
poisoned by the notorious Captain Hook. And the only way to save Tinkerbell's life is to rally the support of the audience.
"Oh, please, please, everyone who believes in fairies, clap your hands!" Tami urges.
Grief and fear come trickling down Tami's cheeks so easily it flows like blood from a fresh wound.
"Please!"she continues with greater conviction, "Louder! Oh please, louder!"
The audience responds with lusty, award-winning applause and Tami's tears of sorrow smear with tears of relief.
Tinkerbell lives.
"She could make you cry, man," Adams says, "That was Tami at her best. She had the gift."
A fountain of sorrow, forever young.


Florida Today March 18, 1990
By Billy cox

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POLICE SEARCHING FOR MISSING MODEL
by Hanna Lea Skolnick
Florida Today 7/12/1983
When local model and actress Tammy Lynn Leppert left her Rockledge home last Wednesday, she called out, "Bye Mommy, I'll see you in a little bit, OK?"
That was the last thing Linda Curtis heard her daughter say.
The 18-year-old -- who has appeared in many television commercials and in small roles in a few recent movies, including "Spring Break" -- has been missing since last Wednesday.
Curtis, Leppert's mother-coach-agent-adviser, filed a missing persons report with the Cocoa Beach Police Department Sunday night, four days after her daughter disappeared.
Curtis said her daughter left the house early Wednesday afternoon to go out with a visiting friend from Tampa, who Curtis only knows by the name of "Keith".
Leppert had been undergoing emotional and physical problems for a few months and had met with "Keith" to talk things out, Curtis said. But the friend dropped Leppert off just two blocks south of the glass bank on SR A1A in Cocoa Beach after a heated discussion, Curtis said. He was the last person to see her.
"From what he says she was just really upset," Curtis said, "And he didn't know how to handle that."
Curtis said she called dozens of friends and relatives, but no one had seen or heard from Leppert. And Leppert's recent emotional problems have left her frightened and confused, Curtis said.
"I'm scared to death," Curtis said, "She's so open and loving and she has such a brilliant career ahead of her. And the poor thing is running scared someplace out there on the beach. There are all kinds of weirdos you don't know who could have gotten her."
Leppert has been winning talent and beauty contests since age 4 and has appeared in various television shows, commercials and movies. And the stunning girl is up for major roles in three upcoming movies, Curtis said.
"They may be just thinking of her as another runaway," said Curtis, whose son has been missing for five years. "But they don't understand. She spent her whole life developing her career and she wouldn't just walk away from it."
"Tami and I have always been very, very close. Even if she were mad at me, she would call me even if it were just to curse me out. She knows the agony I would be going through. She would have called me, or at least someone."
Lt. David Bartman of the Cocoa Beach Police Department said his officers' task was made more difficult by the delayed report and by the fact that Leppert, who recently turned 18, is legally an adult.
They are combing the beach area and distributing fliers with Leppert's picture, as well as following up possible leads, Bartman said. But foul play is not suspected and there is no indication Leppert was taken anywhere against her will, Bartman said.
Leppert has blond hair, hazel eyes and, at 5-feet 4-inches tall, weighs about 105 pounds.
Anyone who has seen Leppert or has any information about where she may be is asked to call Cocoa Beach police at 783-4911.

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February 25, 1985
Florida Today

MODEL'S WHEREABOUTS REMAIN A MYSTERY

When local actress and model Tami Lynn Leppert climbed into a car with a friend almost two years ago, her mother thought she was going to the 7-Eleven convenience store.

"Bye Mommy, I'll see you in a little bit, ok?", the 17-year-old said as she left the house the day she disappeared. She was barefoot and without a purse.

Outside her home, she hopped into a car driven by a man named "Keith". He said he dropped her off about two blocks south of the Glass Bank in Cocoa Beach after they had a fight, said Linda Curtis, the teenager's mother.

Searching for some sign of Leppert, Curtis said she checked with the teenager's friends, but none of them had seen her, she said. Hours slipped into days without any sign of Leppert.

Police have yet to find clues leading to Leppert's whereabouts. She was last seen on July 6, 1983, near a Cocoa Beach shopping plaza.

The only information Cocoa Beach Detective Harold Lewis has received since her disappearance were two telephone calls from a woman who said that Leppert was still alive.

"When the woman called the first time, she said that Tami Leppert was well and would contact us when the time was right," Lewis said.

"During the second call, she said that Tami was doing what she always wanted, going to school to become a nurse."

Lewis said he does not suspect foul play in connection with Leppert's disappearance.

"I have a gut feeling that Tami just split," Lewis said.

But Leppert's mother dismissed that possibility. The teenager grew up in Brevard and had no reason for leaving her family and friends here, Curtis said.

And the idea of Leppert going to nursing school is impossible, she added.

"They could have called and chosen any profession except nursing," Curtis said "She (Leppert) is deathly afraid of blood."

During the final scene of the movie "Scarface," there is a bloody shootout, between the movie star Al Pacino, and some soldiers.

Leppert, who has a bit part in the movie, "started crying and almost passed out," when "blood squibs" on the set started popping, her mother said.

"Scarface" was the last movie Leppert appeared in before she disappeared about five months later, Curtis said.

The teenager had been winning talent and beauty contests since age 4 and appeared in a variety of television shows, commercials and movies.

"My daughter has always been spoiled by society standards," Curtis said "There's nothing the child ever wished for that she didn't get."

"Most kids want to meet a movie star, let alone be in a movie", she said "Most kids want to be a model let alone have several modeling assignments."

Last May, Curtis filed a $1 million wrongful death suit against the estate of Christopher Bernard Wilder, a Boynton Beach contractor police linked to the abduction, rape or murder of at least 12 women.

In the lawsuit, Curtis charged that Wilder abducted and possibly killed her daughter, who disappeared almost eight months before Wilder began his nationwide killing spree that ended with his own death.

Wilder died April 13, 1984, during a scuffle with police in New Hampshire.

Authorities could never prove that Wilder was connected to Leppert's disappearance, according to Lewis.

Curtis still wonders what happened to her daughter. But she said she is slowly coming to the realization that Leppert probably is dead.

"Indications are pretty good that she's probably not with us, and if she is, she doesn't know who she is," Curtis added.

Leppert had been undergoing emotional and physical problems and had told several friends that someone was trying to kill her days before she vanished, Curtis said.

Her daughter was so paranoid before she disappeared that she could have gone with someone who offered her protection, according to Curtis.

With an inkling of hope, however, Curtis says she will continue her search.

"When a mother's looking for her daughter, there's nothing she won't go through to find her."


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HAVE YOU SEEN TAMI-LYNN?

TV Tabloid show hopes its viewers might have

By Billy Cox
Florida Today

Eight-and-a-half years after her last public appearance, Tami-Lynn Leppert is about to become the nationally reknowned star she always aspired to be. The mystery is, no one knows if she can even appreciate the irony.

The last time she was known to be alive - July 6, 1983 - the unsteady, 18-year-old beauty queen from Rockledge had just been released from psychiatric observation, at a moment when her acting career appeared to be taking off.

Fresh from cameo film appearances in "Scarface" and "Spring Break," Leppert's private life was sinking into a quicksand of fear that she was about to be murdered. And the puzzle behind her dread - whether real or delusional paranoia - lured an NBC "Unsolved Mysteries" production team to the Space Coast earlier this month.

"There are a lot of compelling questions here concerning foul play and/or the personal problems Tami was experiencing," says Matt Klinemann, an "Unsolved Mysteries" researcher with Cosgrove-Muerer Productions in Burbank, Calif. "There are a lot of twists, a lot of turns. The deeper you look into it , the more you see it's a three-dimensional problem not one-dimensional. It's the classic kind of case we like to investigate."

But can a 10-minute dramatization tentatively scheduled for an April 1 broadcast on NBC, cover all the bases? Leppert's mother, talent agent, Linda Curtis, thinks not.

"From what I've been able to tell it's going to be a pretty generic story," says Curtis, who now lives in Orlando.

"On the other hand, maybe having her picture out there will trigger someone's memory or conscience."

What no one disputes, is that in the months beforre she vanished, Tami-Lynn Leppert - an extroverted blonde whose effervescent smile and precocious poise had been charming pareant judges since she was 4 - was in trouble. It started in April 1983.

Curtis says her daughter underwent a radical personality transformation, withdrawing from friends, brooding in her room, refusing even to eat food from her own plate because she suspected it was poisoned. Curtis says Leppert told her she had "seen something so horrible I'm going to get killed for it." She alluded to a spider web of drugs, money laundering and violence, but she remained vague about the details.

During the filming of a guns 'n' gore scene from "Scarface" - Brian DePalma's cocaine-gang epic - Leppert became so distraught she had to be removed from the set in Miami and taken home. She finally snapped in Rockledge, when the wind blew the door shut behind her. Locked out of the house, Leppert picked up a baseball bat and bashed in a window.

Curtis then checked Leppert into a mental health clinic in Melbourne for observation. Curtis says the only conclusion drawn from Leppert's two-day visit was that her daughter had no drugs in her system.

Days later, on July 6, 1983, Leppert stepped out of the house and into a cardriven by an acquaintance named Keith Roberts, who says he subsequently dropped her off at Cocoa Beach's Glass Bank building on SR A1A around 1 p.m. Roberts was the last person known to have seen Leppert alive.

Beyond that lie layers of dense innuendo, the kind of complicated, sound-bite proof details that probably won't make it into the "Unsolved Mysteries" segment.

Curtis says she suspects that Roberts knows more than he told the Cocoa Beach police and that authorities failed to rigorously investigate the disappearance.

Lt. Jim Scraggs, who handled the case in 1983, says Curtis' suspicions about Roberts never panned out.

"Given no more information than we had, there wasn't much more we could do," Scraggs says. "There was nothing out of the ordinary about the guy. No criminal history, no nothing."

On the other hand, Scraggs recalls his two telephone conversations with Roberts as being "short and non-specific" He says the only thing that bothered him was when Roberts broke two appointments to come to the station for a face-to-face interview.

"That concerned me greatly," Scraggs says, adding, "Roberts was never properly interrogated."

Scraggs says he hasn't questioned Roberts in seven years.

Today, Roberts answers the telephone at a residential number on the original police report.

Roberts, a 30-year-old Melbourne car salesman, says he met Leppert in one of Curtis' acting classes around 1980. He says the Tami he remembers suffered a "drastic" and "weird" character change in the months before her disappearance. He says that she told him she was unhappy at home and that she wanted to leave.

"Everything seemed to be falling in on her at the time," Roberts says, "and she was acting real paranoid. She said that her mom had put her in a hospital against her will and that (Tami) was sleeping with a knife under her pillow - stuff like that. I don't know what happened to her. All I know is that there was this explosion, and she really freaked out."

Roberts says Leppert called him in Lakeland, where he worked in a bank, and asked him to drive over and pick her up. He says she also asked him to lend her some money.

"I didn't even have to get out of the car, she was waiting for me," Roberts says. "All I know is she wanted out."

Roberts says that he gave Leppert $300 and that she wanted him to drop her off with friends in Fort Lauderdale. Roberts says he didn't have time for that, suggesting instead that he take her home.

"At that point she said,'Let me out. Let me out! Stop, stop! So I just said OK, whatever you want," he says. "And that's the last I saw of her."

Roberts says that he cooperated fully with the police investigation and that he was never scheduled for an appointment at the Cocoa Beach police station. After initially agreeing to appear on "Unsolved Mysteries," Roberts backed out when he understood the proposed line of questioning.

"They were asking me questions like, 'Did I think Linda had anything to do with Tami's disappearance.' " Roberts says, "So I told them I wasn't gonna go on a show and start slinging mud on her mother. I told them everything I knew on the phone and that wasn't good enough."

One of Leppert's close confidants, Rick Adams of Rockledge, did agree to be interviewed by "Unsolved Mysteries." Having just signed a four-album contract with the Alternative Music Group in Nashville, the Christian-rock artist appears to be headed for the sort of stardom he always thought Leppert would enjoy.

The night before she disappeared, Adams, now 26, accompanied Leppert to a local church, where they prayed together. He said she was legitimately afraid of something. Though she never got specific with him. Adams says some of her departing words were, "I may have to go away for a while."

Adams' name is listed as a contact on the police file, and his telephone number remains unchanged since 1983. But Adams says he told the "Mysteries" producers more than he ever told police.

"To this day, the cops have never called to ask me anything," Adams says, "Pretty strange isn't it? I thought I'd be a logical person to question, since I was with her the night before she disappeared."

Klinemann won't say exactly which angle "Unsolved Mysteries" intends to persue. "But I do think she's the victim of some sort of criminal element," he says. "It's difficult for me to think she just left one day and never came back."

Thanks to tips from "Unsolved Mysteries" viewers - anywhere from 20 million to 30 million on Wednesday evenings - Klineman says the show has helped solve 105 riddles at last count, or roughly 25 percent of it's total story load. But that also means that 75 percent of Robert Stack's narratives have never been resolved.

With no leads reported since 1983, Tami-Lynn Leppert's disappearance easily qualifies for the challenge.

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Decades later, pain remains
Billy Cox
Staff

Sad vigil drags on for 2 Brevard families

By Billy Cox

Florida Today

Wednesday's reunion of 15-year-old Elizabeth Smart with her parents in Utah was widely hailed as "miraculous" in the wake of her June 2002 abduction.

For the families of two teenagers who disappeared from Cocoa Beach decades ago, however, only false hopes -- not miracles -- have shaped their ordeal.

On April 28, 1977, 13-year-old Keith Fleming was last seen walking southbound along A1A, just north of State Road 520, several miles north of his house. On July 6, 1983, 18-year-old Tami Lynn Leppert of Rockledge vanished after being dropped off by a friend at the "Glass Bank" in Cocoa Beach.

Although the trails remain cold, the Cocoa Beach Police Department still regards them as open cases, said Lt. Bud Ayers of the criminal investigation division. Leads continue to trickle in, mainly to the Leppert file, thanks largely to an "Unsolved Mysteries" show that premiered in 1992 and continues to air in syndication. All have been dead ends.

More awareness

"The world's a different place than it was back then," says Ayers, an 18-year law enforcement veteran. "There wasn't the awareness that we have today. I'm not even sure they had the term sexual predator in those days."

All that changed in the years following the kidnapping and murder of 6-year-old Adam Walsh in 1981. The boy's father, John Walsh, led a movement that resulted in a nationwide missing-children database, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, the milk-carton ID campaign, and "America's Most Wanted," one of law enforcement's most useful television resources.

In Dallas, Leppert's stepfather, Richard Leppert, couldn't help but think about his own daughter when the Smarts received their good news on Wednesday. It also magnified his loss.

"I loved Tami so much," Leppert says. "She was my baby. I haven't really held out any hope for her for a long time now. But I took out the pictures I have."

Leppert's ex-wife, Linda Curtis, went to her grave in 1995 without a resolution. A talent agent, she had groomed Tami to be a model and an actress, and the teen had made cameo appearances in films such as "Spring Break" and "Scarface." From her deathbed in an Orlando hospital, Curtis made a final plea through Florida Today for closure as she succumbed to kidney and liver failure at age 54.

"I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but if that's what it takes to get the right person to come forward, that's OK," she said.

Lt. Jim Scraggs, who handled the case in 1983, says Curtis' suspicions about Roberts never panned out.

"Given no more information than we had, there wasn't much more we could do," Scraggs says. "There was nothing out of the ordinary about the guy. No criminal history, no nothing."

On the other hand, Scraggs recalls his two telephone conversations with Roberts as being "short and non-specific" He says the only thing that bothered him was when Roberts broke two appointments to come to the station for a face-to-face interview.

"That concerned me greatly," Scraggs says, adding, "Roberts was never properly interrogated."

Scraggs says he hasn't questioned Roberts in seven years.

Today, Roberts answers the telephone at a residential number on the original police report.

Lt. Scraggs: "Given no more information than we had, there wasn't much more we could do," Scraggs says. "There was nothing out of the ordinary about the guy. No criminal history, no nothing."

But then the guy, Keith Roberts, after having two "short and non-specific" phone conversations with police, breaks TWO interview appointments with them.

This seems like a good lead, I don't care if he didn't have any kind of criminal history. There's always a first time and he was the last person known to be with Tami. I hate that they couldn't follow up on this. He wasn't even hiding. Years later, he still had the same phone number that the police had in the file from when they first contacted him.

He says he never had scheduled interviews with the police so he couldn't have missed them. Who's lying? Him or the police? He also says he gave Tami $300. Wasn't this about the price of an abortion back then? I wonder if she confronted him with a pregnancy that either he or both of them didn't want, and he didn't want to pay for the abortion or keep the baby so he got rid of her, using the $300 price as a veiled statement hoping that people would think she went for an abortion and went missing from there.

Is it a known fact, or only suspected that they argued in his car before he dropped her off. He says she wanted him to drive her to Ft. Lauderdale, which he says he didn't have time to do, so he just let her get out of the car right there.

Very frustrating.... The fact that he refused to be interviewed for UM because he thought they were going to make him sling mud against Tami's mom (BS excuse, imo), and he broke two interview appointments with the police is very suspicious.

I wonder if there is a serial killer of beauty queens operating near the Florida-Georgia line (pun not intended). They think the Tara Grinstead and Jennifer Kesse ones (which have been discussed a little bit on the True Crimes board) might be related

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grinstead_tara.html

It's interesting that her mom said she knew she wouldn't see Tami again when she went out the front door? Well, ever since I first saw the segment, I was screaming in my head, "Then geez woman, how about you actually get off the damn phone and GO OUT THERE!" Someone briefly mentioned earlier, how she may have made a conscious decision to disappear, maybe to get away from her overbearing mom? I'm not trying to beat up on her, since we don't know the whole story. But being pushed to succeed in modeling competitions and such might've had a bigger effect on her than anyone realized. We've all heard stories about obnoxious stage parents/little league parents, who push their dreams onto their kids and take all the fun out of it.

To be fair, I think that she didn't have that feeling until she actually saw Tammy getting into the car, by which time it was too late, as she'd been on the telephone when Tammy actually left. I agree we definitely don't know the whole story and it's totally possible she was a pushy stage mom, but she did make a good point in her interview: ''She was about to go to California. From California to Cocoa Beach, that's about as far away from me as you can get.''

TracyLynn, I 100% agree with you. This individual should have been thoroughly looked at. He was the last one to see a missing person. It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a record, he needs to be cleared. It is all the more suspicious that not one person reported seeing Tammy walking near the glass bank, the guy broke multiple interviews, her being afraid of him...The big question is (aside from his innocence), if Tammy Lynn was pregnant, was this man the father of her child? Why was she afraid of him? And if he was actually a friend and not the man she was concerned was going to kill her, how could he leave his terrified friend 5 miles from home? I don't care if they argued, that's a terrible thing to do. I think if he didn't do anything to her, he still probably knows way more than he's telling.

To be fair, I think that she didn't have that feeling until she actually saw Tammy getting into the car, by which time it was too late, as she'd been on the telephone when Tammy actually left. I agree we definitely don't know the whole story and it's totally possible she was a pushy stage mom, but she did make a good point in her interview: ''She was about to go to California. From California to Cocoa Beach, that's about as far away from me as you can get.''

TracyLynn, I 100% agree with you. This individual should have been thoroughly looked at. He was the last one to see a missing person. It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a record, he needs to be cleared. It is all the more suspicious that not one person reported seeing Tammy walking near the glass bank, the guy broke multiple interviews, her being afraid of him...The big question is (aside from his innocence), if Tammy Lynn was pregnant, was this man the father of her child? Why was she afraid of him? And if he was actually a friend and not the man she was concerned was going to kill her, how could he leave his terrified friend 5 miles from home? I don't care if they argued, that's a terrible thing to do. I think if he didn't do anything to her, he still probably knows way more than he's telling.

Excellent points, I had to re-watch it to refresh my memory. I'd actually forgotten that Tami was leaving for California soon. I hope I didn't come across as too harsh of her mom (I apologize if I did), and we certainly don't know details. Her mom also could've simply been on a business call and was distracted until it was too late.

Even though I grew up in "the old days" myself (i.e. 80s/90s/even kinda the first half of the 2000s), I've almost forgotten what it's like to live in a world not saturated with cellphones/smartphones and other technology. I have to remind myself how much we used to rely on house phones.

And absolutely, the guy who dropped her off needed to be investigated far more than he was. Even if he wasn't directly responsible for her disappearance, and was truthful about dropping her off, it's still pretty callous and heartless to drop her off with as terrified as she'd been. No matter what the nature of their argument was. If there were no eyewitnesses to Tami walking alone or being dropped off in that area, that makes it look even more suspicious.

Roberts says that he gave Leppert $300 and that she wanted him to drop her off with friends in Fort Lauderdale. Roberts says he didn't have time for that, suggesting instead that he take her home.

"At that point she said,'Let me out. Let me out! Stop, stop! So I just said OK, whatever you want," he says. "And that's the last I saw of her."

A few things don't add up here. According to Google Maps, Fort Lauderdale is 178 miles from Cocoa Beach. That's close to a 3 1/2 hour car drive just to get there. I have a hard time believing that Tami would ask for a ride to a destination so far away with no identification on her, no suitcase and in bare feet.

Also, is it normal to have $300 in your wallet that you can just hand over to a friend when she asks during a brief visit? Maybe the guy had money and maybe growing up in Florida is just a completely different lifestyle but that just seems...odd. Especially considering $300 was considered a lot more money 30 years ago than it is today.

A few things don't add up here. According to Google Maps, Fort Lauderdale is 178 miles from Cocoa Beach. That's close to a 3 1/2 hour car drive just to get there. I have a hard time believing that Tami would ask for a ride to a destination so far away with no identification on her, no suitcase and in bare feet.

Also, is it normal to have $300 in your wallet that you can just hand over to a friend when she asks during a brief visit? Maybe the guy had money and maybe growing up in Florida is just a completely different lifestyle but that just seems...odd. Especially considering $300 was considered a lot more money 30 years ago than it is today.
I have read on other websites (some of the posts being from Tammy's sister, Suzanne) that Tammy was not actually barefoot that day and it was a mistaken report. According to the Charley Project, she was wearing flip-flops. But still, I agree. Asking a friend out of the blue to take you on such a long drive with no purse, ID, or money? Why? I also find the $300 concerning. Other posters have speculated that this was approximately the cost of an abortion in 1983. Not certain if that is true, but it's a good theory.


Excellent points, I had to re-watch it to refresh my memory. I'd actually forgotten that Tami was leaving for California soon. I hope I didn't come across as too harsh of her mom (I apologize if I did), and we certainly don't know details. Her mom also could've simply been on a business call and was distracted until it was too late.

Even though I grew up in "the old days" myself (i.e. 80s/90s/even kinda the first half of the 2000s), I've almost forgotten what it's like to live in a world not saturated with cellphones/smartphones and other technology. I have to remind myself how much we used to rely on house phones.

And absolutely, the guy who dropped her off needed to be investigated far more than he was. Even if he wasn't directly responsible for her disappearance, and was truthful about dropping her off, it's still pretty callous and heartless to drop her off with as terrified as she'd been. No matter what the nature of their argument was. If there were no eyewitnesses to Tami walking alone or being dropped off in that area, that makes it look even more suspicious.


I don't think you were being harsh. If things did happen exactly like in the reenactment, then it appears she was on a business call and didn't realize Tammy was leaving or get the premonition until it was too late, but we can't be sure. Stage mothers get a bad rep., but it's anyone's guess if Mrs. Curtis actually was a pushy one. We simply don't know.


I barely remember the times before cell phones were prevalent. I grew up in the 90s/2000s and I really only remember having to rely on payphones in elementary school. Coming to the UM boards to theorize about crimes and missing people before cell phones is kind of a trip sometimes. :) I was just theorizing about Tara Breckinridge possibly attempting to reach a call box in another thread and thinking, ''Glad we have cell phones now!'' To this day, whenever I see call boxes on the highway I'm glad chances are I'll never have to rely on one (unless I don't charge my phone! :lol: or there's no signal) In all seriousness, it is sad that Tammy's mother had no way of reaching her once the car went around the corner. She couldn't call her, text her, or anything of the sort to figure out where she was going or ask her to come back. If Tammy really was left by the glass bank, she would have had to rely on a payphone (and collect calling, if she didn't have any money). I think if Tammy really was dropped off by this friend, that would have been her first destination in the attempt to get a ride home. Because this Glass Bank was so close to a gas station (which almost certainly would have had a payphone or one in the vicinity, right?), I really lean toward her not being dropped off there that day. I think she would have made a beeline for the station to use the phone or another phone nearby. This was a girl so terrified she couldn't stand outside of her own front door for a few minutes while locked out. I highly doubt she just went walking off down the street rather than trying to get to the closest phone available. Also, I think someone, at least one person, would have remembered seeing her.

But Tammy did make it to a phone booth, across the street from the Glass bank and she made 3 separate phone calls to her aunt who worked several blocks away. That's the one thing that nags at me because despite Roberts questionable story, the fact that Tami made the calls from outside that gas station would suggest she really was dropped off at the bank.

As for the abortion theory, I guess it's possible. As we all know, Judith Himes also lived in Florida and it cost her $300 to get an abortion in 1965. You would think it might cost more to have that procedure by 1983.

Also, Tami's 6 month trip to California (for numerous acting auditions) was coming up. Wouldn't it have been easier for her to get an abortion in California where she was away from her family, and where less people knew her? I have a hard time believing she would need to get an abortion done at that very moment in a city that was close to 4 hours away.

But Tammy did make it to a phone booth, across the street from the Glass bank and she made 3 separate phone calls to her aunt who worked several blocks away. That's the one thing that nags at me because despite Roberts questionable story, the fact that Tami made the calls from outside that gas station would suggest she really was dropped off at the bank.

As for the abortion theory, I guess it's possible. As we all know, Judith Himes also lived in Florida and it cost her $300 to get an abortion in 1965. You would think it might cost more to have that procedure by 1983.

Also, Tami's 6 month trip to California (for numerous acting auditions) was coming up. Wouldn't it have been easier for her to get an abortion in California where she was away from her family, and where less people knew her? I have a hard time believing she would need to get an abortion done at that very moment in a city that was close to 4 hours away.
I had completely forgotten about the phone calls from the costume shop! Sorry about that, I feel so silly since you literally just posted about it a couple of days ago. Well, the location does indicate that she more than likely was dropped off by this guy. I'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach imagining her fear and desperation to get out of that area as you mentioned before.


I also agree that it would have seemed more likely she would try for an abortion in California. Of course, she was allegedly three months along and perhaps she was stressed and wanted to get it done ASAP. I forget, when was she leaving for California? In a matter of weeks? I definitely remember her mother saying she was getting ready to go, but not specifically when.

It was never specified when she was leaving for California, only that she was getting ready, which I assume was very soon.

In fact, when she told Rick Adams that she was going away for a while, I always assumed she was referring to California. Not the fact that she was planning on running away.

I don't think you were being harsh. If things did happen exactly like in the reenactment, then it appears she was on a business call and didn't realize Tammy was leaving or get the premonition until it was too late, but we can't be sure. Stage mothers get a bad rep., but it's anyone's guess if Mrs. Curtis actually was a pushy one. We simply don't know.

I barely remember the times before cell phones were prevalent. I grew up in the 90s/2000s and I really only remember having to rely on payphones in elementary school. Coming to the UM boards to theorize about crimes and missing people before cell phones is kind of a trip sometimes. :) I was just theorizing about Tara Breckinridge possibly attempting to reach a call box in another thread and thinking, ''Glad we have cell phones now!'' To this day, whenever I see call boxes on the highway I'm glad chances are I'll never have to rely on one (unless I don't charge my phone! :lol: or there's no signal) In all seriousness, it is sad that Tammy's mother had no way of reaching her once the car went around the corner. She couldn't call her, text her, or anything of the sort to figure out where she was going or ask her to come back. If Tammy really was left by the glass bank, she would have had to rely on a payphone (and collect calling, if she didn't have any money). I think if Tammy really was dropped off by this friend, that would have been her first destination in the attempt to get a ride home. Because this Glass Bank was so close to a gas station (which almost certainly would have had a payphone or one in the vicinity, right?), I really lean toward her not being dropped off there that day. I think she would have made a beeline for the station to use the phone or another phone nearby. This was a girl so terrified she couldn't stand outside of her own front door for a few minutes while locked out. I highly doubt she just went walking off down the street rather than trying to get to the closest phone available. Also, I think someone, at least one person, would have remembered seeing her.

I'm really gonna have to read this thread from the beginning, since there's so much more info from police interviews and newspaper articles. Yeah, I never got any bad vibes personally from her mom, and I'm sure that was something she didn't even realize until she'd already driven away (just watched the segment again). I actually feel far more annoyed with Wing, the other kid living with them. They kinda fought like brother and sister, lol, but he could've been a little more patient and understanding with her.

Yeah, basic cellphones were getting popular even in the late 90s (and pretty much everyone had one by 2003 say). Payphones were more just for an emergency or really important call if you forgot your phone, lol. So many of the early UM cases are eerier/creepier by the fact so many of these crimes probably wouldn't have happened if they had cellphones (Angela Hammond being one of the most obvious ones).

I'm really on the fence with whether Tami was indeed dropped off or not. With as scared as she was even under "ordinary" situations in her last few months.

$300 in 1983 dollars would probably be about $1000 now with inflation. Maybe she couldn't wait on the abortion if she needed one that badly. I'd hate to think that could've factored in her disappearance even more. :(

Apparently her sister or a relative posted on the websleuths board they are waiting for the DNA test to see if an unidentified body that was found is Tammy.

This thing is messed up.

There was no way that I could have read every thread on Tammy so forgive me if this is already been said.

IMO I do believe that Tammy could very well be alive if not I strongly believe that she was alive for at least a little while after she left the car and disappeared.

I do wonder if would be possible for LE to check hospitals in states Tammy may have possibly went to see if anyone had a baby who matched her description around the time she was due to give birth. I know it would be long and painful process but if it led to Tammy then it would be worth it.

It's worth a try. I wonder if her dna tests results came back on the unknown body.

It must be awful for the family being in limbo.

Hoping the DNA come backs it is her so they can have closure, but then having to come to terms that's she is actually dead and not just living a solitude life.

They have finally made an official computer-rendered age progression of Tammy Lynn Leppert:
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Was this the case where she was an actress and she started acting weird right before she disappeared? If its the segment I remember they had her in a tshirt and something like a jean skirt?

Was this the case where she was an actress and she started acting weird right before she disappeared? If its the segment I remember they had her in a tshirt and something like a jean skirt?

Yeah, she had a nervous breakdown on the set of Scarface. If you've seen the movie she's the one providing a distraction for the lookout car, during the bloody chainsaw shower scene.

I have read many post from her sister and I think those closest to her are close to the truth. So she attends this party is it possible she was exposed to the money laundering/ drug scheme. Could she have been raped and told her family and herself would die if they told? Also how soon after the party was she abducted? Could baby be conceived from rape if she was pregnant? I don't think she has schizophrenia or bipolar it's odd she is out of town and personality does a 180. SOMETHING happened. Also mom had her admitted to mental institute they cleared her of disorder and supposedly she went to the police. From what I understand friend?? Keith and her get in fight? Three questions. Was Keith at party? Was he a romantic interest? Could they have had fight because he got her pregnant? These answers could explain the bizarre fight or provide motive. Maybe she didn't want baby (cause of her career) and he did or vice versa. Maybe he left her and someone else attacked her. Or maybe he was involved in blackmail or angry with her about baby situation and killed her. Also this T.rue character seems odd to me. He seems to be angry with Tammy. A poster on here said he had poster of her in background? I wonder if he was involved or just angry she rejected her? Everything he said is odd and BS. How can we find out who was at party? Are any of them connected to Florida? I find it odd tammy goes to police and shortly after is missing. Maybe they thought she told more than she did? Also I heard police don't have record of her conversation with them. Is this true? Could someone not saying all but someone on inside have been involved? I think she is probably dead. My fear is she was taken on a boat and body was dumped in ocean so she hasn't been found. She was on the beach if these people had money I bet they had access to a boat..just saying.i hope I'm wrong. If you read this Suzanne I'd like to hear what you think. I'm sorry for what happened to your sister and hope you find her or find justice.

I have read many post from her sister and I think those closest to her are close to the truth. So she attends this party is it possible she was exposed to the money laundering/ drug scheme. Could she have been raped and told her family and herself would die if they told? Also how soon after the party was she abducted? Could baby be conceived from rape if she was pregnant? I don't think she has schizophrenia or bipolar it's odd she is out of town and personality does a 180. SOMETHING happened. Also mom had her admitted to mental institute they cleared her of disorder and supposedly she went to the police. From what I understand friend?? Keith and her get in fight? Three questions. Was Keith at party? Was he a romantic interest? Could they have had fight because he got her pregnant? These answers could explain the bizarre fight or provide motive. Maybe she didn't want baby (cause of her career) and he did or vice versa. Maybe he left her and someone else attacked her. Or maybe he was involved in blackmail or angry with her about baby situation and killed her. Also this T.rue character seems odd to me. He seems to be angry with Tammy. A poster on here said he had poster of her in background? I wonder if he was involved or just angry she rejected her? Everything he said is odd and BS. How can we find out who was at party? Are any of them connected to Florida? I find it odd tammy goes to police and shortly after is missing. Maybe they thought she told more than she did? Also I heard police don't have record of her conversation with them. Is this true? Could someone not saying all but someone on inside have been involved? I think she is probably dead. My fear is she was taken on a boat and body was dumped in ocean so she hasn't been found. She was on the beach if these people had money I bet they had access to a boat..just saying.i hope I'm wrong. If you read this Suzanne I'd like to hear what you think. I'm sorry for what happened to your sister and hope you find her or find justice.

Alwayssmiley,

I looked back through the thread to see if we could figure out a time frame that might tell us the answer to some of your questions.

Dinoguy posted a timeline I'll partially quote here:

JULY 1982: Tammy is cast in 'Spring Break.' Not known when filming began.

MARCH 1983: Tammy goes to Miami to film 'Scarface.' Everything was fine until the fourth day of filming when she saw a scene being filmed where a man is supposed to be shot with artificial blood splurting out. When Tammy saw this, she had a breakdown and had to be escorted to a trailer. Through her breakdown, she mentioned money laundering. After this incident, she quit the film and went home to Cocoa Beach.

MARCH 25, 1983: 'Spring Break' opens at theaters.

APRIL 1983: Tammy's paranoia gets worse. This eventually leads to her believing people were trying to poison her.

JULY 1, 1983: Tammy breaks a window with a baseball bat.

JULY 2, 1983: Tammy is checked in to the mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation for 72 hours. Doctors found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in her system. [She got a complete physical, but we aren't told if she was given a pregnancy test or not. Obviously the hospital staff would know this information and that would have been provided to police conducting a missing person's investigation.]

JULY 4, 1983: Tammy is released from the hospital and goes home.

JULY 5, 1983: Tammy goes out with her friend Rick Adams. She tells Rick that she loves him and that she might be going away for a while.

JULY 6, 1983: In the morning, Tammy's friend picks her up. They drive to the beach and then get in an argument. Tammy then gets dropped off at the Glass bank, never to be seen again. That afternoon, Tammy made 3 urgent phone calls to her aunt, who worked at a costume shop in Cocoa Beach. Unfortunately, the aunt was out of town. When she arrived home, she listened to the messages and said Tammy sounded very scared. There has been no contact from her since.

If Tammy was about 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance, March/April 1983 would have been an approximate time of conception.

Your idea about her becoming pregnant (through rape or consensual sex) during the filming of Scarface looks like a possibility. Her movie Spring Break also opened in theaters at about the same time. It's possible she got pregnant while "celebrating" the release of her new movie.

Then by April, she could be showing signs of pregnancy such as hormonal changes that could explain her paranoia/personality changes. It's extreme but does happen. Also, many women experience an increased sense of smell in early pregnancy. That could explain why she thought someone was trying to poison her food. It may have smelled odd to her and in her fragile mental state, she didn't trust it, so wanted someone to taste it to prove it was safe. Or April could have been the time of conception, which if by rape, could explain her behavior.

And, if pregnant, she went missing at about the critical 3 month mark. Many women start showing after the third month. If Tami wanted to keep the pregnancy a secret, she wouldn't be able to do it in the skimpy clothes required during a hot Florida summer. If she wanted to continue with the pregnancy and the father did not, this would be just about his last opportunity to get rid of her/the pregnancy before she began showing and the pregnancy would then be obvious.

I think it is legitimate that an ex would know and not say anything for years in a case like this. We women can be trusting and want to think the best of the person that we love and in this case, the woman married this man. She wouldn't want to believe that he was a murderer, so she may have dismissed the idea several times before deciding that there really is something to it. She may have gone through a lot of fear for herself if she told. You have no idea what she may or may not have gone through before getting to the point that she felt it is necessary to say something. There are cases where people have been kidnapped and mistreated and who ultimately feel sympathy for the person who did it to them. We don't know what happened in their marriage for her to make such claims....I personally think they had to have caused fear. You would have to have some serious hate for your ex to make a claim that he killed someone or was involved in their disappearance just to get back at him. I tend to think its odd that this guy left her on foot at a bank and no one else ever saw her again. That's weird....even if they got into a dramatic argument....leaving her there (what a jerk)!

I also have questions about the party that she went to. They stated that she started showing problems after going to the party. Who did she go with? Were those people questioned? What happened at that party? The reaction that she had while filming Scarface....did she witness a murder? Is that why she had a meltdown during a death scene? Why would she think someone wanted to kill her? Could there be a relation? And if she was pregnant, who was the father? Did she tell anyone who it was because they could be a suspect?

I actually came to this site because I was looking up a friend who was an extra in Scarface and with the blurriness of the pictures she looks a lot like Tammi so I came across Tammi's name and googled her to find this. I do hope the best for her family. Some of the comments make speculation whether she is alive or isn't, but I think it's necessary to have closure. Spending a lifetime wondering what happened to someone you love and care about is a difficult one. My deepest sympathies Suzanne.

concerned citizen

I'm watching Scarface right now on TV, and thinking of Tammy. It's one of those mysteries, along with the case of Anthonette Cayedito, that keeps me awake in bed late at night thinking. Whatever happened to her, I'm pretty sure she's gone.

I hope where ever her mom is, she's with Tammy and finally knows the story of what exactly happened to her daughter.

I've been searching high and low for any film of Tammy from Spring Break but could not find any, so I had the chance to pick up a VHS copy of the movie and decide to post her scene on the unmentionable site for everyone to look at.
If you search for "Wing Flannigan's Sister" on that site you will find the clip from Spring Break with her in it. She was so pretty in the film, too bad her life was cut short, she had such potential. Enjoy!

I am getting really creeped out now. Apparently on February 5, 2014 the owner of the Glass Bank building was found dead inside the still abandoned building. I've posted the link below. This structure has now cast a shadow over two tragic events.

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20140205/NEWS01/140205013/Man-center-Cocoa-Beach-Glass-Bank-dispute-found-dead

I am getting really creeped out now. Apparently on February 5, 2014 the owner of the Glass Bank building was found dead inside the still abandoned building. I've posted the link below. This structure has now cast a shadow over two tragic events.

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20140205/NEWS01/140205013/Man-center-Cocoa-Beach-Glass-Bank-dispute-found-dead

I've been doing some reading and there's plenty of interesting information online about the Glass Bank.

I always thought it looked like a creepy, abandoned building. It looked creepy when Unsolved Mysteries filmed there in 1991 too. But it's got an interesting history. Apparently, it was more than just a bank. It had a huge dining restaurant that was popular with the residents of Coco Beach in the 1960's. The building also regularly hosted astronauts, movie stars and well known politicians. According to residents, it was THE place to be in the 60's. The top of the building is a pent house where the co-owner Frank Wolfe lived since the 1980's. He was the only resident. Kind of hard to believe that someone lived in a building that looks looks so much like a haunted house from the outside.

The reason the building is in disrepair is because of hurricanes that damaged the structure decades ago and for some reason, the city did nothing to fix it. It currently has $161,600 in city code violations. Frank Wolfe had been in a legal battle for years with the city over the fate of the building but when they finally decided last week to foreclose and demolish it, Wolfe couldn't handle it and tragically decided to take his own life.

Despite being the location of Tami Leppert's disappearance in 1983, residents are sad to see the building go because they have such fond memories of it when it was thriving part of the community. Some had even hoped that the building could finally be repaired, renovated and turned into a city hall. It's considered a major landmark in Coca Beach despite the fact that it's been an eye sore for many years.

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I've been doing some reading and there's plenty of interesting information online about the Glass Bank.

I always thought it looked like a creepy, abandoned building. It looked creepy when Unsolved Mysteries filmed there in 1991 too. But it's got an interesting history. Apparently, it was more than just a bank. It had a huge dining restaurant that was popular with the residents of Coco Beach in the 1960's. The building also regularly hosted astronauts, movie stars and well known politicians. According to residents, it was THE place to be in the 60's. The top of the building is a pent house where the co-owner Frank Wolfe lived since the 1980's. He was the only resident. Kind of hard to believe that someone lived in a building that looks looks so much like a haunted house from the outside.

The reason the building is in disrepair is because of hurricanes that damaged the structure decades ago and for some reason, the city did nothing to fix it. It currently has $161,600 in city code violations. Frank Wolfe had been in a legal battle for years with the city over the fate of the building but when they finally decided last week to foreclose and demolish it, Wolfe couldn't handle it and tragically decided to take his own life.

Despite being the location of Tami Leppert's disappearance in 1983, residents are sad to see the building go because they have such fond memories of it when it was thriving part of the community. Some had even hoped that the building could finally be repaired, renovated and turned into a city hall. It's considered a major landmark in Coca Beach despite the fact that it's been an eye sore for many years.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/370ea3dde61f5ade70f8f3b18c4e6016/tumblr_mwyj9swopq1s7e0yco1_500.jpg

I agree with you. It's really creepy.... Here are some pics of the inside: Inside the Glass Bank (http://www.abandonedfl.com/?tag=cocoa-beach)

Is that first pic during construction or is that how the building looked when it was new? I somehow looks unfinished or something, like it's surrounded with scaffolding instead of being a completed structure. Weird design, imo.


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I agree with you. It's really creepy.... Here are some pics of the inside: Inside the Glass Bank (http://www.abandonedfl.com/?tag=cocoa-beach)

Very neat link. Amazing how a few hurricanes can turn such a modern looking building into a place that looks like it's been overrun by zombies in the Walking Dead.

Some of those rooms look interesting. Like they were used one day and then never again. There's some couches, chairs, lamps and desks that look in excellent shape. I wonder why they were never removed when the building was abandoned.

I've been searching high and low for any film of Tammy from Spring Break but could not find any, so I had the chance to pick up a VHS copy of the movie and decide to post her scene on the unmentionable site for everyone to look at.
If you search for "Wing Flannigan's Sister" on that site you will find the clip from Spring Break with her in it. She was so pretty in the film, too bad her life was cut short, she had such potential. Enjoy!

I can not for the life of me find it. Could you pm me the link please? :)

EDIT: Never mind, found it :3 She looks different than she did in the Scarface film. Poor girl. I'm willing to bet she'd of been a big name star by now.

don't think tammy was normal, seemed a little bit weird. My guess is she ran away and was killed in something unrelated to anything she thought she saw. I mean what could she have possibly seen at a party for a straight to vhs movie that would be worth her to be murdered?

Its florida, what if a gator killed her? What if she were ran over and became a jane doe?

Wing and Tammy were NOT related. Tammy and her mother lived with the Flannigans for a while. Wing did have a sister, but Tammy was not his sister.

I can not for the life of me find it. Could you pm me the link please? :)

EDIT: Never mind, found it :3 She looks different than she did in the Scarface film. Poor girl. I'm willing to bet she'd of been a big name star by now.
Tammy looks the same in both movies. In "Scarface" she was the blonde in the blue bathing suit leaning against the convertible while the famous chainsaw scene in the bathtub was taking place. The "same" blonde character by the pool was a replacement for Tammy because she had to leave the set due to medical reasons. As for "Spring Break", Tammy was "the boxing girl" at the bar where the wet t-shirt contest also took place. Tammy was also in another scene dancing by a pool. She was also in the bikini contest line-up and also in a scene jogging on the beach. Do a search on the I/net for the poster of "Spring Break"; Tammy was the model for the movie poster. Those are her hips the guys are raising the flag on.

I can't believe this case has not been solved. If the police had been proficient in their investigation the case would probably have been solved back in 1982. When talking with Tammy's mother, Linda, she told me that the Cocoa Beach police did NOT treat the case as a "runaway case" since Tammy was 18. Therefore, the police did not initiate any investigation until Tammy became a "missing persons" case. Even then, according to Tammy's mom, the CB police would just dismiss Linda because they were annoyed with her and would treat her and the situation with indifference.
Scenario possibility #1: Keith and Tammy fought as he said. However, maybe in anger or rage he hit Tammy, accidentally killing her. I could be remembering incorrectly, but I think Keith had a prison record - not that that is a bad thing on its own. However, Keith could have panicked, especially if he was on probation, and decided to dump Tammy into the Saint John's River on his way back to Orlando. The St. John's River is infested with alligators, so Tammy's body would most likely have been consumed within 24 hours. There are also black bears along the St. John's River Flood Plain; there have also been sightings here and there over the years of Florida Panthers along the St.JRFP. Investigators should have immediately seized Keith's vehicle and searched it for any evidence of foul play.
Scenario possibility #2: Tammy had to leave the set of "Scarface" because of a nervous breakdown. Keith suddenly shows up out of the blue from 50 miles away, maybe under false pretenses. He could have seen this as an opportunity to convince a very emotionally vulnerable Tammy that he was there as a concerned friend. However, maybe an ulterior motive may have been to abduct her and force her into, or sell her into the sex-slavery trade. Back during that time, there were stories of "white American women" being in high demand as sex-slaves in places like Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. We now know that this sadly does occur throughout the United States as well.
I wasn't too concerned about her disappearance at first because I thought maybe she suddenly decided she was going to quit wasting her time in Florida and go out to California. If I remember correctly, she had a sister that was living in California, so I figured she was living with her out there.
However, over the last several years something has puzzled me. I had spoken with Tammy on the phone a couple of days before she disappeared because we were making plans to go ice skating (in a rink). If investigators had obtained her phone records, they surely would have come across my number. I had asked Linda (Tammy's mother) if she knew if someone would be contacting me, but she told me that she did not give them my name because she "didn't see any reason to get [me] involved". I thought that was peculiar, but later rationalized that maybe Tammy's mystery was being wrapped up and/or maybe things weren't quite what was being presented in the media.
When Linda's health began deteriorating long ago and wasn't expected to live much longer, I thought for sure that 'the real story' would come out, either by Linda on her death-bed, by Keith and/or Wing, or by Tammy publicly showing up upon her mother's passing. I don't really know anything that could shed any light on her disappearance except for what I mentioned above. But, as I check this blog about her, it does make me wonder - especially since this case hasn't been solved after all these decades.
Where are Wing, Keith and that musician (Rick Adams?) that was interviewed by "Unsolved Mysteries" now? Where is Tammy's sister? What about Tammy's biological father? Also, I think Tammy had a male cousin living in Cocoa Beach, FL (a Scott Stout?).
Tammy always thought the best of people, maybe to a fault.

Where are Wing, Keith and that musician (Rick Adams?) that was interviewed by "Unsolved Mysteries" now? Where is Tammy's sister? What about Tammy's biological father? Also, I think Tammy had a male cousin living in Cocoa Beach, FL (a Scott Stout?).

Tammy's sister is still very active online looking for answers as to what happened to her.

She is also working on other cases regarding people who have gone missing or have turned up as murdered, unidentified, persons. She posts frequently on other forums. She definitely has NOT forgotten her sister.

If I remember correctly, she had a sister that was living in California, so I figured she was living with her out there.

Tammy's sister is still very active online looking for answers as to what happened to her.

I don't think aspengold means Suzanne, but another sister. Remember Suzanne and her twin were adopted, and she had never actually met Tammy. How many siblings did Tammy have? And where was/is her father?

I don't think aspengold means Suzanne, but another sister. Remember Suzanne and her twin were adopted, and she had never actually met Tammy. How many siblings did Tammy have? And where was/is her father?

Oh yeah, I forgot about Suzanne's twin. You're probably right about the question regarding the other sister.

Tammy looks the same in both movies. In "Scarface" she was the blonde in the blue bathing suit leaning against the convertible while the famous chainsaw scene in the bathtub was taking place. The "same" blonde character by the pool was a replacement for Tammy because she had to leave the set due to medical reasons. As for "Spring Break", Tammy was "the boxing girl" at the bar where the wet t-shirt contest also took place. Tammy was also in another scene dancing by a pool. She was also in the bikini contest line-up and also in a scene jogging on the beach. Do a search on the I/net for the poster of "Spring Break"; Tammy was the model for the movie poster. Those are her hips the guys are raising the flag on.

Yes, I've seen her in the Scarface movie. I don't doubt it's her in the Spring Break clip, but I still say she looks different. I think it's her hair.

So sad she's still missing. Maybe she had on a wig (I don't recall her having bangs that thick):

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/dvd/anchorbay/spring_2.jpg

I've always thought that the friend she was riding with before she disappeared should have been scrutinized more. I think I read in one of these threads, or somewhere else (Suzanne) that Tammy tried to call someone from a payphone near the glass bank, but that person did not answer. I just can't see a person being abducted in broad daylight in a fairly busy area. Given how paranoid she was in the end I would think that any little thing would have sent her into a panic and she would have shouted for help, or run away screaming. This friend may have just stopped for gas near the bank and stated he dropped her off there since that was the last place people would have seen them together.

I've always thought that the friend she was riding with before she disappeared should have been scrutinized more. I think I read in one of these threads, or somewhere else (Suzanne) that Tammy tried to call someone from a payphone near the glass bank, but that person did not answer. I just can't see a person being abducted in broad daylight in a fairly busy area. Given how paranoid she was in the end I would think that any little thing would have sent her into a panic and she would have shouted for help, or run away screaming. This friend may have just stopped for gas near the bank and stated he dropped her off there since that was the last place people would have seen them together.

The phone calls, 3 in all, were to her aunt who worked near by but happened to be out of town that day. The aunt later claimed when she listened to the messages, she said that Tammy sounded frantic and scared.

This is the gas station, which used to be an Exxon, where Tammy made the phone calls...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy1_zps9fef420b.jpg

It's just a half block from the Glass Bank. Here's the distance on Street View, the Glass Bank on the far right and an arrow pointing to the gas station...

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/Tammy2_zps84442f74.jpg

The friend angle is definitely confusing and it's hard to come to a logical theory. He told police that Tammy told him to drive her to Fort Lauderdale, which is nearly 200 miles away. That completely contradicts what Tammy told her mother right before she left home when she said she would be right back. But at the same time, if he was trying to kidnap her or if Tammy felt threatened by him, I certainly don't think he would just sit there at the gas station and allow her to make 3 phone calls from the payphone.

July 6, 1983 was a Wednesday. It was around noon. The city was just 2 days removed from 4th of July weekend. Like you said, the chances of somebody pulling off an abduction at that time in a busy area are extremely thin.

Another thought that crosses my mind is the idea that she might have hitched a ride. This was the early 1980's and hitchhiking, while always dangerous, wasn't considered as taboo then as it is today. A killer could have picked her up without incident, promised to drive her home, and then took her some place, raped her and killed her. But her emotional state at the time and at that moment was not right and anything seemed to set her into a panic. That makes me think she wouldn't have trusted a ride with a stranger if she was that scared.

Running away would have been difficult with no money, no identification, no transportation and the fact that she was a local well known celebrity throughout Cocoa Beach. Somebody would have seen her. And why make the frantic phone calls to the aunt if she were planning on running away?

The only other scenario that can be looked at is if somebody she knew picked her up and then that person did away with her. Maybe the friend returned? But why go through such a huge fight, drive away, come back and THEN decide to kill her? That doesn't make sense either.

It's maddening trying to think of what happened to her at that very moment.

I'm wondering if Tammy tried calling another friend after calling her aunt three times. Maybe she called someone else and begged them to pick her up. Maybe the person she was afraid of caught up with her after she left the gas station. It's really too bad no one saw her at the gas station (unless I'm mistaken?) because they could at least say they saw her getting into a car after making some calls or walking off down the street.

I agree with you dynoguy, that it's doubtful she would have hitchhiked considering how afraid she was at the time.

The only other scenario that can be looked at is if somebody she knew picked her up and then that person did away with her. Maybe the friend returned? But why go through such a huge fight, drive away, come back and THEN decide to kill her? That doesn't make sense either.

It's possible that did happen. Suppose they had a fight and she got out of the car and he drove away, just like he said. She was upset about the fight and called her aunt. Meanwhile, her friend cooled off and came back to pick her up. He felt bad for leaving her alone and said he'd take her home. Maybe they got into another fight when she was in the car and he snapped, so he took her somewhere and killed her.

So sad she's still missing. Maybe she had on a wig (I don't recall her having bangs that thick):

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She was jumping up and down in this scene so her hair was bouncing up and down, including bangs, which might account for her different appearance. But, most likely, they made her hair up differently on purpose to have some differentiation in her appearance since she appears multiple times throughout the movie as different extra characters. Another note: She was also in "Little Darlings" (1980) with Tatum O'Neal and Kristy McNichol. In one scene she is sitting behind T.O. and K.M. in the lunchroom.

Alwayssmiley,

I looked back through the thread to see if we could figure out a time frame that might tell us the answer to some of your questions.

Dinoguy posted a timeline I'll partially quote here:

JULY 1982: Tammy is cast in 'Spring Break.' Not known when filming began.

MARCH 1983: Tammy goes to Miami to film 'Scarface.' Everything was fine until the fourth day of filming when she saw a scene being filmed where a man is supposed to be shot with artificial blood splurting out. When Tammy saw this, she had a breakdown and had to be escorted to a trailer. Through her breakdown, she mentioned money laundering. After this incident, she quit the film and went home to Cocoa Beach.

MARCH 25, 1983: 'Spring Break' opens at theaters.

APRIL 1983: Tammy's paranoia gets worse. This eventually leads to her believing people were trying to poison her.

JULY 1, 1983: Tammy breaks a window with a baseball bat.

JULY 2, 1983: Tammy is checked in to the mental health center for a complete physical and psychiatric evaluation for 72 hours. Doctors found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in her system. [She got a complete physical, but we aren't told if she was given a pregnancy test or not. Obviously the hospital staff would know this information and that would have been provided to police conducting a missing person's investigation.]

JULY 4, 1983: Tammy is released from the hospital and goes home.

JULY 5, 1983: Tammy goes out with her friend Rick Adams. She tells Rick that she loves him and that she might be going away for a while.

JULY 6, 1983: In the morning, Tammy's friend picks her up. They drive to the beach and then get in an argument. Tammy then gets dropped off at the Glass bank, never to be seen again. That afternoon, Tammy made 3 urgent phone calls to her aunt, who worked at a costume shop in Cocoa Beach. Unfortunately, the aunt was out of town. When she arrived home, she listened to the messages and said Tammy sounded very scared. There has been no contact from her since.

If Tammy was about 3 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance, March/April 1983 would have been an approximate time of conception.

Your idea about her becoming pregnant (through rape or consensual sex) during the filming of Scarface looks like a possibility. Her movie Spring Break also opened in theaters at about the same time. It's possible she got pregnant while "celebrating" the release of her new movie.

Then by April, she could be showing signs of pregnancy such as hormonal changes that could explain her paranoia/personality changes. It's extreme but does happen. Also, many women experience an increased sense of smell in early pregnancy. That could explain why she thought someone was trying to poison her food. It may have smelled odd to her and in her fragile mental state, she didn't trust it, so wanted someone to taste it to prove it was safe. Or April could have been the time of conception, which if by rape, could explain her behavior.

And, if pregnant, she went missing at about the critical 3 month mark. Many women start showing after the third month. If Tami wanted to keep the pregnancy a secret, she wouldn't be able to do it in the skimpy clothes required during a hot Florida summer. If she wanted to continue with the pregnancy and the father did not, this would be just about his last opportunity to get rid of her/the pregnancy before she began showing and the pregnancy would then be obvious.
The July 4th, 5th and 6th timeline does not match up. Though I didn't talk to Tammy's mom directly, she had called me on the 3rd (SUN) or on the 4th (MON) asking if I had seen Tammy. So obviously she was already missing according to her mom. Tammy and I spoke on the phone that previous week making plans to go skating soon. I'm not buying into Rick Adams' odd story about her "confessing her love for him" on the 5th. Also, Rick Adams' claimed that Tammy told him she might be going away for a while. What is the first thing one says about someone who is missing? They always say something to the effect that the person said they needed to get away or are going to go away on a trip or something like that. I'm not accusing Rick of anything, but maybe the investigators focused on the wrong person. All the attention went towards Keith. Maybe his sudden and suspicious presence was actually coincidental and caused investigators to divert into an incorrect direction. Maybe Rick needs to be investigated more closely.

I don't think she saw anything at the filming of Scarface, or any of the surrounding events (parties, etc.) that resulted in her death. I think it's more likely that she was already mentally unstable, and seeing the events of Scarface caused her to confuse reality with the movie. It's possible that she couldn't always tell the difference between her real life and the scenes in the movie.

I think this all stems from a drug habit. In particular, cocaine. It's no secret that a lot of movie stars and celebrities engage in cocaine use in a habitual manner. When I assume this to be true, two theories start to emerge for me. She might have owed a large drug debt to a particular drug dealer. Maybe she believed that her acting career was on the verge of taking off, and one starring role would allow her to pay the debt. That obviously didn't happen, so maybe she ran out of time to pay it. She didn't reveal this to her family because they probably didn't have the money to pay it, and would have probably put her in rehab, thus further delaying her acting career.

If she's still alive, and I highly doubt that she is, then the only scenario that I see occurring is that she was taken and forced to work in the sex industry. I think this is very unlikely, but if she isn't dead then this is what I would bet was her ultimate fate. Even if this happened, her looks have probably long since vanished, so maybe she was killed once she was no longer attractive.

What I can't understand with this scenario, or many other similar scenarios involving pretty girls who run afoul of dangerous drug dealers due to their debts, is why she didn't just date a drug dealer. She was obviously one of the hottest women in the country at that time, and could have either dated a well-connected and well-supplied drug dealer, or someone that could have afforded to supply her with whatever she desired. Maybe that's harder than it sounds? I don't really know.

I wish that she were still alive, as it's obvious she had a lot of talent to go along with her physical attractiveness.

aspengold, according to the date Charley Project has (June 1st for the window breaking incident), I think those dates in question July 1, July 2, July 4, should probably be JUNE and not JULY.

But Charley Project also says that the date she went missing was after 11:00am on JULY 6. I wonder why her mom was calling and looking for her on July 3 and July 4? Was she just checking to see if Tammy was with friends, not as in "she's missing, we can't find her, have you seen her?" but more like "I just got home and Tammy didn't leave a note, is she over at your house"?

Far Off Promise, IIRC, Tammy was screened for drugs when she was admitted to the psychiatric ward and she was clean. If it was drugs that made her go crazy and bust out the window, they might have still been in detectable levels at that time.

How long does it take for some of the harder drugs to leave the system? I looked up cocaine. If the interwebs are to be believed, after one use, it can be detected for 1-3 days. In a habitual user, it can be detected in the urine 12 weeks after use. If she'd last been using drugs in March and April, I wonder if they would show up on a drug screen in June, using early 1980s medical technology?

From my experience working with folks who use, most drugs can be detected in urine for up to 72 hours, excluding marijuana. If you wanted a longer time frame, you'd have to test the hair follicles.

I'm not sure how long each drug stays visible in your system, but it really depends on what type of test was administered. How many panels were on the drug test she was given? Urinalysis, blood, hair, spinal tap?

Even if she was screened, with the best technology available, she still could have been in withdrawal, which theoretically could have made her behavior worse. If she had a psychotic break, either from the drugs or the withdrawal, there's no telling how long it could have lasted.

No one knows the effect that drugs had on her Tami or her disappearance, or if they were even a factor. It's just something I've always come back to when I think about the case. Her behavior in her house alone certainly suggests that something, whether drug-induced or mental disorder, was seriously wrong with her.

I wonder if Wing ever found out anything later or heard any rumors? I'd imagine he encountered people in his acting pursuits that either knew Tami or had heard about her disappearance.

One question I have that has been bugging me though deals with the level her acting career had reached. The segment portrays her as being on the brink of stardom, and of course her mother gave the impression that she was going to be a big star, but how accurate is that portrayal? Is there anything to suggest that she was actually going to have a breakout role? Her pageant record was impressive, and she had landed slightly-better-than "extra" acting parts, but sometimes I feel that the fact she had a very minor part in a very famous classic film has maybe elevated her actual acting status far above what it actually was at the time of her disappearance. Did Wing go on to do anything of note?

I don't believe Tammy herself was on drugs. It's rumored in numerous different articles that Tammy may have been 3 months pregnant at the time all this happened. If that is true, that may have played part in her bizzare paranoid behavior. Pregnancy hormones can make people act really crazy and irrational at times. I went through similar things myself when pregnant, and I know tons of others who have as well.

I also think that she was indeed aware of something illegal that was going on. She walked in on it, or someone opened their mouth to her about it, and she was threatened to keep her mouth shut by means of doing something to scare the hell out of her.

I'm not completely convinced her disappearance had something to do with why she was acting so weird though. I think it's very possible she was picked up by a stranger under the notion they would give her a ride somewhere, which lead to possible rape and murder.

I don't believe Tammy herself was on drugs. It's rumored in numerous different articles that Tammy may have been 3 months pregnant at the time all this happened. If that is true, that may have played part in her bizzare paranoid behavior. Pregnancy hormones can make people act really crazy and irrational at times. I went through similar things myself when pregnant, and I know tons of others who have as well.

But surely not on the same level, I would imagine. Being a guy, I can't relate and speak from personal experience, obviously. But I've never known or heard of a woman whose pregnancy hormones were THAT extreme ... Paranoia to the point of thinking your family is poisoning you and breaking windows with a baseball bat.

I too tend to think she witnessed something horrible mainly because I don't think psychological disorders can just develope overnight. And there are no reports that she had any mental issues or paranoia at any time in her life prior to that last year before she went missing.

I've always wanted to know the specifics of that out of town weekend party she went to unchaperoned because she was never the same after that.

But surely not on the same level, I would imagine. Being a guy, I can't relate and speak from personal experience, obviously. But I've never known or heard of a woman whose pregnancy hormones were THAT extreme ... Paranoia to the point of thinking your family is poisoning you and breaking windows with a baseball bat.

I too tend to think she witnessed something horrible mainly because I don't think psychological disorders can just develope overnight. And there are no reports that she had any mental issues or paranoia at any time in her life prior to that last year before she went missing.

I've always wanted to know the specifics of that out of town weekend party she went to unchaperoned because she was never the same after that.

Not being pregnant alone would cause it, but if she really felt her life was in danger, it may have contributed to how irrational she was acting, which may have gotten so bad that it lead to things like schizophrenia. I'm not a doctor, but my own sister developed issues similar and behavior while pregnant with my nephew. She actually attacked my step dad.

I'm curious too about the out of town party, and think the a lot of answers lay there.