I'm having such the hardest time finding a job. I never thought finding a job would be this hard. I only have a high school diploma so that could be the problem & i barely graduated. I never did care for school. My brain for some reason is dead when it comes to figuring things out & i can't remember what i study when i'm studying something. I'm studying for my CDL license right now & i know i'm gonna fail the test when i take it. I've never wanted to work a hard job such as construction, office work, warehouse, engineer, architect cause i don't have the brains to do that type of work. If a person was to train me on the job, i still wouldn't do the job right cause i know me. I don't know what i wanna do with myself. I've always wanted to get into entertainment industry since i was a kid cause that's where my heart is at & i know i would love being in that industry but i don't wanna live in New York or Los Angeles. Cleveland, Ohio is the only place i wanna live. I'm just very depressed right now cause i be thinkin at night sometimes when i go to sleep about what should i do for a career before i get too old. I'm already 27 yrs old & i'll be 28 in September. I've never had a full time job. I've always worked temporary jobs & part time jobs & i'm always gettin fired everywhere i go. Only job i think i would be good at is cleaning & i don't wanna do that for a career cause nobody wants to clean bathrooms & offices for a living cause that ain't no real money. I don't wanna go to community college to take any courses cause i hate school. I don't know what else to do. My life is sad. My brother is 24 & he's doing way better than me. He got his own townhouse & a caddilac escalade truck. It seems like i just keep having bad luck when it comes to keepin a job.

Join the Army

My mother told me that a long time ago but i said no cause i ain't fighting for america. America hasn't done anything for me so i ain't joining the military. I talked to my friend's father yesterday & he told me that his son joined the military which shocked the hell out of me cause he doesn't seem like the type to join the military. He was taking classes at Cleveland State but i guess he got fed up with not being able to find a job so he joined the military. His father told me that he went to Ft. Benning, Georgia for basic training & now he's in Korea & he's only 25. I hope he makes it back to Cleveland safely once his time is up serving his country. Another reason why i wouldn't join the military is because i don't like loud noises which means i don't like guns & i don't like pain so if i was to get shot, i would hate for that to happen cause i don't want no doctor trying to take a bullet out of me.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
My mother told me that a long time ago but i said no cause i ain't fighting for america. America hasn't done anything for me so i ain't joining the military.

America has done more for you than most countries around the world have done for their citizens. If you paid attention in school, if you ever read any history you would know that this country affords you more opportunities than any other.

I'm not saying you have to sign up with the military, but how about some respect for all the things you take for granted.

America has done nothing for you?
You've done nothing for America- and that is the rest of us.

What did America do for you? LOL. You are 27 and never had a full-time job and still are able to watch sports regularly and post on the internet and I assume you are not starving either. Seems like your life is not too bad for the amount of effort you have put into it. If you were in most other countries and had your work ethic you would have starved long ago.

So even if you don't think America/the army deserves anything from you, remember that the Army can do things for you, hopefully at least improve your attitude. You do get something out of it. I don't know you but you seem to be asking for advice on here. It seems like you've been coddled for too long. No one is going to give you anything in this world, you have to go out and earn it.

Look what the real Isiah Thomas went through to go to a decent school and put up with Bobby Knight and then make it to the NBA. And even though he could sit on his A@@ and not work he is still working away. I know its easy to feel sorry for yourself, we've all done it, but get that CDL and start driving and keep trying to improve.

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school isn't for everybody, sometimes you just need to head straight for the business world. look into taking some online courses that might interest you and work toward more than one goal so you can have something to fall back on. I am headed for the business world while I am still learning. I suggest you learn some HTML skills and become a webmaster because there is lot of money in that and you can start a company based on that.

I don't wanna take any online courses about business. I don't want a business job or a office job cause i don't like to dress up. Dressing up is another reason i don't go to church. I just like wearing baggy jeans & big shirts with black sneakers. That's the way i dress all the time & my father has a problem with that. Last weekend i went out to see this girl i'm seeing & i was wearing baggy clothes with sneakers & my father said you're going out of here lookin like that? I said yeah & he said you're 27 yrs old still dressing like a teenager LOL. I just feel comfortable wearing baggy clothes than i do dressing up. I can't help that.

Sinatrastar if it wasn't for my parents lettin me have a place to live, i would've been homeless cause my parents got tired of me staying with my grandfather & losing jobs. My situation is messed up cause i put myself in this situation by not having a plan when i graduated from high school. If i had to do all over again, i would've tried out for the high school basketball team & probably would've gotten a scholarship to college. Who knows, maybe i would've been in the NBA by now. Basketball has always been a dream of mine but for some reason i was more concerned with doing my homework & passing tests so i could graduate & i felt like i wouldn't have had time to play basketball in high school & do my homework & study. I don't think i could've juggled all of that. I keep tellin my parents to let me be out on my own but they say where are u gonna go & i don't have a answer. I know i don't wanna stay at a homeless shelter. I've visited a homeless shelter before just to see what it's like & it's not a pretty sight. I saw homeless black men sharing bunk beds.

Why do I get the feeling this is a prank?

This isn't a prank, i'm dead serious about everything i've said.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
I don't wanna take any online courses about business. I don't want a business job or a office job cause i don't like to dress up. Dressing up is another reason i don't go to church. I just like wearing baggy jeans & big shirts with black sneakers. That's the way i dress all the time & my father has a problem with that. Last weekend i went out to see this girl i'm seeing & i was wearing baggy clothes with sneakers & my father said you're going out of here lookin like that? I said yeah & he said you're 27 yrs old still dressing like a teenager LOL. I just feel comfortable wearing baggy clothes than i do dressing up. I can't help that. when I say business I mean build on an interest you might have and it's better for some people to skip school and start their own business. my point was be your own boss.

I am going to be honest and tell you that I skimmed over all that other nonsense, including the crap that I wrote.

Go get a job.

Try imagining if you had a family to support and you took this arrogant attitude that you are above all this.

I wouldn't mind having my own record label since i like rap music a lot but where am i gonna get the money from? I ain't trying to borrow money from somebody cause my credit is messed up. I filed for bankruptcy about 5 yrs ago so my credit will be clean in 5 more yrs.

I have a college degree and I can't find a job. Apparently people assume I can't do anything just by looking at my resume. :mad:

I can't stand my current job anymore; it makes me sick just thinking about going back there. I can't find another job.

I guess it's a damn good thing I live with my parents so at least I can eat.

Dlemond i got a job right now as a cigarette merchandiser but it's only part time. I wish it was full time but then again i'm glad it's not cause i hate my job. All i do is drive to gas stations, drug stores, grocery stores puttin up Marlboro, Virginia Slims, Parliament, Basic cigarette signs with the prices on them. Sometimes my job has a dark week where i don't work the whole week which i think is stupid. I can only work 5 hours a day Tuesday through Friday & my check ain't even $200 a week. My father shakes his head at the fact that here it is 2004 & i got a part time job & i'm 27 yrs old. He be tellin me that him & my mom aren't gonna be around forever & when they die, what am i gonna do is what he says & i don't have a answer. My father told me that my mom cried one time asking him how come it's so hard for me to get a job. When he told me that, i felt bad cause u hate to see your mom cry about her kid being in a bad situation.

You've got to get a job. Stop making excuses... fast food restaurants will hire you in a second, as will grocery stores. If a 16-year-old can get a job afterschool, you can get something.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Only job i think i would be good at is cleaning & i don't wanna do that for a career cause nobody wants to clean bathrooms & offices for a living cause that ain't no real money.

You want good money to clean toilets? Go to the post office. My father makes damn good money and gets good benefits and he's a janitor at the post office.

And if anyone thinks my dad's a loser for cleaning toilets for a living, you can go to hell.

Dawsongirl what's your current job? See people have this misconception about people who go to college assuming that they're gonna get a good job cause they've been to college when having a college degree means nothin. Both of my parents have been to college & neither one of them are working the kind of jobs they wanna work. My father hates his job with a passion & he's a social worker. He really wants to get back into television i believe cause he's worked for television stations before. BET even offered him a job in 87 & he turned it down cause he felt the salary they were offering him wasn't enough. My brother has been to college for 4 yrs & he's not happy i'm sure with what he's doing now even though he has his own place with a nice truck. He interned at a black radio station in Washington DC while he was in college & he gave them a demo tape cause he wanted to work for them once he graduated from college & they never got back to him. I know he was hurt.

Brent88 i ain't making excuses. I do wanna work but i'm not good at anything except cleaning. Like i said if somebody was to train me on a job doing something hard, i would fail at it cause my brain for some reason doesn't function properly when it comes to figuring stuff out on my own. I used to work at a grocery store as a janitor & i got fired before the week was out cause my supervisor told me i was lazy. Ain't that a bit*h.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Dlemond i got a job right now as a cigarette merchandiser but it's only part time. I wish it was full time but then again i'm glad it's not cause i hate my job. All i do is drive to gas stations, drug stores, grocery stores puttin up Marlboro, Virginia Slims, Parliament, Basic cigarette signs with the prices on them. Sometimes my job has a dark week where i don't work the whole week which i think is stupid. I can only work 5 hours a day Tuesday through Friday & my check ain't even $200 a week. My father shakes his head at the fact that here it is 2004 & i got a part time job & i'm 27 yrs old. He be tellin me that him & my mom aren't gonna be around forever & when they die, what am i gonna do is what he says & i don't have a answer. My father told me that my mom cried one time asking him how come it's so hard for me to get a job. When he told me that, i felt bad cause u hate to see your mom cry about her kid being in a bad situation.


Hey, don't get down. Tell your parents that all will be fine. Because it will be. Things may take time but any job you start you can mold into a resume - you believe in yourself and I promise you that you will excel.

All I can say for certain is that attitude has taken things further for most people than anything else.

So start at step one and just let it roll.

It all has to start somewhere.

Actually I kind of relate to what you are going through. To a point at least. I was never a great student in school. I wasn't a terrible student, but I graduated high school with a 2.8 GPA. Not bad, but cartainly far from great. When I was in high school I never gave the slightest thought to what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. Then in January 1994 I find myself five months from graduation with no idea what I wanted to do with my life. And I mean I had NO idea, not even the slightest. I signed up to go into the Marines but I failed the physical. Then I graduated in June and high school was over and I still had no clue as to what I was meant to do in this life. I worked full time overnight at Target for the next six months and I kept thinking to myself "There has to be something better then this." I decided to enroll in the local community college hoping that while taking classes I might discover something that I would be interested in doing. Well, I had a very difficult time in college. I tried hard but it never seemed to get me anywhere. I failed many classes dropped even more classes. By 1998 when many from my high school graduating class were graduating from college I was still at the same community college and had earned less then a year's worth of college credits. I decided to give up college and go back to working full time again. I was not happy. During the summer of 1999 my grandfather told me that he really wanted me to go back to college and if I did that he would pay for my schooling as long as I averaged a 2.0 GPA. I agreed and reenrolled in school. During Fall '99 semester I took an Early American History class and I just fell in love with it. I loved going to the class, earned great grades and at the semester's end I walked away with an A in the class. This was the first A I had seen in a really long time. I still had a difficult time in many of the other courses, including walking away with an F in Journalism. I have always been a good writer, but my casual writting style was out of place in journalism. Over the next couple of years I took as many history classes as I could and decided to major in Early American History and minor in Fiction (I've always read a lot so this was an easy subject for me). There was still a lot of hard work a head and many classes that I still had trouble with, like math and scinece. But I finnaly did graduate in 2003. I am now a junior high history teacher. The moral of the story I guess is that if I could do it so can you. Just find something you are good at, something you love and make it happen.

Originally posted by Brent88
You've got to get a job. Stop making excuses... fast food restaurants will hire you in a second, as will grocery stores. If a 16-year-old can get a job afterschool, you can get something.

:nod:

Surprisingly FF pays more than minumum wage, and pays alot better than some jobs out there where you don't need a degree, or even a HS diploma

The thing that frustrates me about not being able to get a job is my job history. The longest job i've been on is this part time cleaning job i had from 97-02. That's not a good thing when employers look at my work history & they see that most of my jobs i've been on for a few months. That's why i'm not gettin any phone calls about a job that i apply for. U know things could be a lot worse such as i could be on drugs, i could be a alcoholic, i could be a drug dealer, killer, thief. I thank god i haven't been in those situations but that's because i chose not to be those things. I don't care how desperate i get for a job, i will never resort to a life of crime.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Dawsongirl what's your current job?

Secretary for an independent auto mechanic. But if I break it down, this is all I do because my boss doesn't think I can do anything: clean the office, file, and answer phones. A chimp could do my job.

And now that the other tech quit, I no longer have any typing to do. :mad: Unless you count correcting my bosses' kindergarten English. :rolleyes:

Dukey i know i would be good at doing something in the entertainment industry. I just don't know what it is. I was thinkin about maybe taking some acting classes but like i said earlier in my post, i don't wanna live in New York or Los Angeles cause it's too many people in those cities & the traffic is very bad all the time. I used to live in Virginia & Maryland & the traffic is terrible in those places so i know the traffic would be worse in NY & LA. But if the entertainment industry is what i wanna do & i know i would be good at that, then i need not to worry about the traffic in NY & LA. I talked to this guy who has his own company for people who wanna get into being a extra in movies & tv shows. He told me that u can make $200-$600 a day being a extra. He told me all i need to do is send him some photos of myself & i don't need to have expensive photos taken. He said i also have to send him a resume about myself but i told i've never had any acting or extra experience before. He said that's cool cause i don't need to have experience. Then he told me i need to send him $150 so he can make up a website of me that has photos of myself so casting agents can see my pictures.

Dawsongirl so u just sit at your desk all day doing nothin? LOL.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Dawsongirl what's your current job? See people have this misconception about people who go to college assuming that they're gonna get a good job cause they've been to college when having a college degree means nothin.

Especially a degree in English. I don't want to teach, so apparently I spent 5 years wasting my time.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
The thing that frustrates me about not being able to get a job is my job history. The longest job i've been on is this part time cleaning job i had from 97-02. That's not a good thing when employers look at my work history & they see that most of my jobs i've been on for a few months. That's why i'm not gettin any phone calls about a job that i apply for. U know things could be a lot worse such as i could be on drugs, i could be a alcoholic, i could be a drug dealer, killer, thief. I thank god i haven't been in those situations but that's because i chose not to be those things. I don't care how desperate i get for a job, i will never resort to a life of crime.

Apparently I have too little job history too. I didn't work until I got out of HS, because frankly, my folks didn't make me. Then I got a retail job the summer before college, so 3 months. Then I worked at the accounting office my mom works at for 2 years. Now I've been at my current job for 7 months. But I guess I haven't proved anything. :mad:

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Dawsongirl so u just sit at your desk all day doing nothin? LOL.

:lol: Basically. Except I have to pretend to do something. It's pathetic.

set up a lemonade stand! http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v291/vettebabe/cloud9.gif

- captain mcallister

It is hard to find work, I have an Associate Degree, and it's very hard to find work without experience, how do they expect me to get experience if they wont hire me. :cuss:

Someone said the post office. Not as a janitor but as a mail carrier. Also try the railroad. www.uprr.com is the website that you have to go to fill out an application. Or go to a small auto dealership and apply in either their parts or service dept. and work your way up. There always something out there if you look hard enough.

I've applied for a job at the post office before & i didn't take the job cause of third shift. I've worked third shift before a couple of times when i worked at a grocery store, Target, Walmart & third shift is the worst shift to work. I like sleepin at night time, not in the daytime. Topanga good point about people not hiring u when they expect u to have experience but how is a person supposed to get experience when u won't give them a chance. Topanga u also said i should check out fast food places. I applied for a job at Burger King before & the guy interviewed me but he never called me like he said he was. I'm glad he didn't call me cause when he told me how much they pay a hour just to wash food trays, i wasn't interested anyway. I seriously doubt a person can make good money working at a fast food place unless you're a cook or a manager. I wish i had a gun right now so i could end it all & i wouldn't have to worry about nothin. Now that i see how life is, i really hate living cause life ain't about nothin but going to school & working & then u die. On top of that, u gotta deal with ignorant people everyday.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Dukey i know i would be good at doing something in the entertainment industry. I just don't know what it is. I was thinkin about maybe taking some acting classes but like i said earlier in my post, i don't wanna live in New York or Los Angeles cause it's too many people in those cities & the traffic is very bad all the time. I used to live in Virginia & Maryland & the traffic is terrible in those places so i know the traffic would be worse in NY & LA. But if the entertainment industry is what i wanna do & i know i would be good at that, then i need not to worry about the traffic in NY & LA. I talked to this guy who has his own company for people who wanna get into being a extra in movies & tv shows. He told me that u can make $200-$600 a day being a extra. He told me all i need to do is send him some photos of myself & i don't need to have expensive photos taken. He said i also have to send him a resume about myself but i told i've never had any acting or extra experience before. He said that's cool cause i don't need to have experience. Then he told me i need to send him $150 so he can make up a website of me that has photos of myself so casting agents can see my pictures.

Have you ever considered writing a screenplay?

No i haven't considered that. How would i go about doing that? LOL@Safety Pin talkin about set up a lemonade stand hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I feel bad for ya, honestly... I go to school (hate it), and I've never worked before. The thought of getting a job this summer actually scares me. You're in a different situation of course, because you're older and you have worked a bunch of jobs before. I can't exactly relate, but I do feel bad. You do seem to be very picky though... that's the part I do understand somewhat.

You want experience, but then you don't want to settle for something you hate because you know you wouldn't stick with it very long. And that would be a waste.

Alright, so I feel bad because of the spot you're in, but you are partly creating it. You won't work hours that annoy you, you won't dress up nicely for any job, you won't take ANY courses (except maybe acting). You don't want a minimum wage job.

Honestly, what the heck would you be willing to do? All you've talked seriously about is the entertainment industry, and even that wasn't serious, because you said yourself that wouldn't work out. I was going to talk to you about entertainment jobs, but I'm not even going to bother, because I know, and I think you know "you're just dreaming about right now."

If you answer the first line of the last paragraph, maybe you could get somewhere. And realize, REALLY REALIZE that "laziness" won't get you anywhere you would want to be...

Go to your local library and see if they have a any screenplays. Read them and by reading them you'll learn how they are written and they try writing your own. As they say, everyone has at least one story to tell.

Originally posted by Topanga
It is hard to find work, I have an Associate Degree, and it's very hard to find work without experience, how do they expect me to get experience if they wont hire me. :cuss:

Here here!! I demand reform.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
I'm having such the hardest time finding a job. I never thought finding a job would be this hard. I only have a high school diploma so that could be the problem & i barely graduated.


Same thing happens to my brother, except my brother never got a high school diploma. But he's still able to find jobs. Believe it or not, he's done quite a lot of telemarketing. lol. But if you're good on the phones and you like talking on the phone all day...go for a telemarketing job. A job is a job....

Originally posted by JayTom824
Someone said the post office. Not as a janitor but as a mail carrier. Also try the railroad. www.uprr.com is the website that you have to go to fill out an application. Or go to a small auto dealership and apply in either their parts or service dept. and work your way up. There always something out there if you look hard enough.

There's a good job...delivering parts to people. Like the Carquest man. You take parts off shelves and deliver them. You spend a lot of time out of the store. Which sounds like heaven to me.

Originally posted by dukey
Go to your local library and see if they have a any screenplays. Read them and by reading them you'll learn how they are written and they try writing your own. As they say, everyone has at least one story to tell.

Screenplays for Dummies. Easiest way to start without taking a class.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
I feel bad for ya, honestly... I go to school (hate it), and I've never worked before. The thought of getting a job this summer actually scares me. You're in a different situation of course, because you're older and you have worked a bunch of jobs before. I can't exactly relate, but I do feel bad. You do seem to be very picky though... that's the part I do understand somewhat.


Scares me too. If this job would have worked out better. Dammit...why did he have to leave?! :crying:

Cashodeen everything you've said about me is true. I don't know why i keep mentioning the entertainment industry either when i know i don't wanna live nowhere else but Cleveland. I think what i'm gonna do is probably just look for a full time cleaning job paying at least $8-$9 a hour with benefits & do that for the rest of my life cause that's the only thing i'm good at doing. I wouldn't mind delivering cookies, potato chips, bread. I called Wonder Bread company & asked them if they were hiring for delivery drivers & he told me no. Lay's potato chips company is hiring for a delivery driver/salesman. I don't have any salesman experience so i probably wouldn't get hired for that. I don't know why i'm wasting my time studying for a CDL license cause i know i'm not strong enough to deliver soda for Coca Cola, 7up, Pepsi. I used to work for a beer company before & i used to struggle lifting heavy cases of beer on my dolley to take into the store. Soda is just as heavy as beer. What do u call those big gray beer containers that the bars have? I used to have to take those in the basement of bars. Those things are heavy as hell LOL.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
There's a good job...delivering parts to people. Like the Carquest man. You take parts off shelves and deliver them. You spend a lot of time out of the store. Which sounds like heaven to me.

That does sound interesting. :)

I'm probably going to get a part-time job sometime in the next 6 months or so(not really looking forward to it, but it will start to get me used to later when I have a full-time job).

Seriously though... your way to picky. I don't know many people that actually like their job, but they still have to work to survive. Life isn't fair.

I knew this girl who used to be a telemarketer & she said she didn't like it. I tried applying for that job before & i didn't even wanna finish the application cause i said to myself, i don't like talkin on the phone & trying to sell stuff to people. Dawsongirl don't u have to know about auto parts if you're gonna deliver them to stores? I thought about doing that cause i see ads in the newspaper sometimes for that. I've also thought about being a delivery driver using my car but i think using my car would cause too much wear & tear doing that much driving delivering packages. Dawsongirl how did your dad get a job being a janitor at the post office?

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Lay's potato chips company is hiring for a delivery driver/salesman. I don't have any salesman experience so i probably wouldn't get hired for that.

How hard can it be to sell chips? Everyone eats something made by Lay's.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Lay's potato chips company is hiring for a delivery driver/salesman. I don't have any salesman experience so i probably wouldn't get hired for that.

Oh come on... you've got to be a little more optimistic about life. You can get hired for that, but you've got to TRY and not just lay around and say "I won't get hired". You won't know if you don't TRY.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Cashodeen everything you've said about me is true. I don't know why i keep mentioning the entertainment industry either when i know i don't wanna live nowhere else but Cleveland. I think what i'm gonna do is probably just look for a full time cleaning job paying at least $8-$9 a hour with benefits & do that for the rest of my life cause that's the only thing i'm good at doing. I wouldn't mind delivering cookies, potato chips, bread. I called Wonder Bread company & asked them if they were hiring for delivery drivers & he told me no. Lay's potato chips company is hiring for a delivery driver/salesman. I don't have any salesman experience so i probably wouldn't get hired for that. I don't know why i'm wasting my time studying for a CDL license cause i know i'm not strong enough to deliver soda for Coca Cola, 7up, Pepsi. I used to work for a beer company before & i used to struggle lifting heavy cases of beer on my dolley to take into the store. Soda is just as heavy as beer. What do u call those big gray beer containers that the bars have? I used to have to take those in the basement of bars. Those things are heavy as hell LOL.

I don't know what those been containers are called, but I know what you're talking about. If you wouldn't mind a cleaning job and you like the benefits and pay you could be getting, go for it. Or if some good delivery job comes up someday, you could go for that too. Other people here have had good ideas as well if you want to give them some thought...

If acting is something you would really love to try, even as a hobby, you could always find roles in theatre or something in Cleveland. It may never pay a lot, but it could be fun. And if you have time, those acting classes might be something you would like too.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
I knew this girl who used to be a telemarketer & she said she didn't like it. I tried applying for that job before & i didn't even wanna finish the application cause i said to myself, i don't like talkin on the phone & trying to sell stuff to people. Dawsongirl don't u have to know about auto parts if you're gonna deliver them to stores? I thought about doing that cause i see ads in the newspaper sometimes for that. I've also thought about being a delivery driver using my car but i think using my car would cause too much wear & tear doing that much driving delivering packages. Dawsongirl how did your dad get a job being a janitor at the post office?

I'm not fully sure, but I would think, just from the parts people I've worked with, it would be more something you just pick up along the way. I think the counter people are more the people that need to know the parts in and out so when, like, mechanics call and say they need an alternator for a 98 Blazer, they pull the right one, not an alternator for a 93 Blazer. But you'd just have to take the part numbers off the invoice and take them off the shelves. You'd have to know your way around town more than anything.

Umm...I think he just went and filled out a general application. Pretty sure though that you have to take a civil service test, but it can't be that hard. Most of the people my dad talks about sure aren't Harvard grads. :lol:

Originally posted by Cashodeen
If acting is something you would really love to try, even as a hobby, you could always find roles in theatre or something in Cleveland. It may never pay a lot, but it could be fun. And if you have time, those acting classes might be something you would like too.

And meanwhile you could be getting some experience that could potentially lead you to better opportunities. Its worth a try. The worst that could happen is that you might not like it. Maybe you could even learn about the technical stuff that goes on backstage and work with that too. I dont know if you'd like that but I'm just giving you ideas.

LOL@Dawsongirl saying how hard can it be to sell potato chips hahahahahahahahahaha. Yeah maybe i should give them a call & fill out a application. My brother was a full time cigarette salesman. My cigarette route needs a cigarette salesman but he told me that u have to have a college degree to get that position.

Well i definitely know my way around Cleveland very well so i think i'm gonna apply for auto parts delivery driver. Dawsongirl when u were a auto parts delivery driver, was it a full time job & did u get benefits? I don't know if i would wanna be a actor cause i don't think i would be good at memorizing lines.

Originally posted by consentida
And meanwhile you could be getting some experience that could potentially lead you to better opportunities. Its worth a try. The worst that could happen is that you might not like it. Maybe you could even learn about the technical stuff that goes on backstage and work with that too. I dont know if you'd like that but I'm just giving you ideas.

Yes! Glad you brought that up, because I was thinking about mentioning the "leading to better opportunuties idea." The backstage idea is great, and something else I'll add: Ya never know, Isiah... maybe you'd LOVE the acting and be willing to work hard at it, and even wouldn't mind moving to LA or NY for a while. I know you love Cleveland, but stranger things have happened. Maybe you'll find an acting friend who would move with you, and it would make it easier. And you'd know that Cleveland could always be your home again. Nothing is set in stone.

That's just one idea. You may end up staying in Cleveland forever, and that's okay too. I just think the general theme here is you don't think much of yourself, when you should. Ok, so you are a tad on the lazy side (I think), but you could also use a lot more confidence. I just hope you end up being happy with whatever you choose... it is yours to choose, afterall. :)

If u read my post up above, i said i probably won't try acting since i don't think i'd be good at memorizing lines. I wouldn't mind being a extra though in a movie or tv show. I wouldn't mind just doing commercials. People get paid a lot of money i read somewhere doing commercials. Plus a lot of out of work actors are doing commercials.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
If u read my post up above, i said i probably won't try acting since i don't think i'd be good at memorizing lines. I wouldn't mind being a extra though in a movie or tv show. I wouldn't mind just doing commercials. People get paid a lot of money i read somewhere doing commercials. Plus a lot of out of work actors are doing commercials.


You should look in the newspaper for stuff like that. I always see stuff for that in the newspaper. But who knows if its legitimate. Thats the kind of stuff you gotta look out for. But if thats what you wanna do, then go for it....

Originally posted by isiahthomas
If u read my post up above, i said i probably won't try acting since i don't think i'd be good at memorizing lines. I wouldn't mind being a extra though in a movie or tv show. I wouldn't mind just doing commercials. People get paid a lot of money i read somewhere doing commercials. Plus a lot of out of work actors are doing commercials.

Yeah... I was writing all that before you posted so my post came too late. Commercials are a good idea, but for that you'd have to immediately move to NY or LA and go through the gruelling try-out process. Tons of aspiring stars are already out there, and they are willing to work crappy night jobs just so they can be available for acting opporunities in the day time. I don't know if you'd be willing to do all that. My idea about the acting first in Cleveland and maybe moving to LA or NY was just so you could see if acting is something you'd really love. But the commercial or extra idea would cause you to have to move right away...

What happened to ya? I remember you talking about acting months ago and you thought you'd be good at memorizing lines... Maybe you had changed your mind because you realized it was hard, and I don't remember that part... but it seems like your confidence now sucks. If you wanted to cut the laziness, you could do a whole variety of things that you may end up loving...

Yeah i did change my mind about acting cause i think memorizing lines is hard. I've seen a lot of actors mess up on tv shows memorizing their lines when they show the outtakes especially on The Parkers tv show. Plus u have to be able to show emotion when acting so memorizing lines isn't the only hard thing. There are people who've gone to school for acting & i know are good & they probably can't find acting work so acting is a tough field to get into.

Originally posted by isiahthomas
i said i probably won't try acting since i don't think i'd be good at memorizing lines.

And another thing, memorizing lines isnt that hard. It may be hard for some but its really not that difficult. Your delivery of those lines is more difficult. Putting the right emotion and body language with what your saying is, in my opinion, the hardest thing. Making it believable should be the thing to worry about.

Let me ask you this..do you know a lot of people in your area? If you do, you should try selling CUTCO cutlery. I did it for a while, but failed miserably because I knew only one family where I was. You basically start with people you know, and get referrals from them. The word of mouth method is a very effective way of sales.

A problem might be you have to dress up. But you can make some serious cash when you get deeper into it, and make a lot of sales. I never got to that point, but if I had more people I knew in my area, I know I could have. It takes a little motivation, but other than that it's pretty easy.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
You want good money to clean toilets? Go to the post office. My father makes damn good money and gets good benefits and he's a janitor at the post office.

And if anyone thinks my dad's a loser for cleaning toilets for a living, you can go to hell. any job that someone works hard at and feeds his family is nothing to laugh at - i dont care what you do for a living, if you are working an honest job you have my respect

isiahthomas - you need to make a list of things you enjoy doing and things you are good at, then start brainstorming over what sort of careers might benefit from those attributes; the more you enjoy what you are doing, the more likely it is that you will be successful at it

and hang in there!!!

I think you are being too picky about everything. You don't want to work third shift, you don't want to relocate, you don't want to work at a place that requires you to dress up, you don't want to go to college. Some people spend years doing things they don't like in order to get a job that they do like. That's how life is. I went through a lot of hardships before I was able to have a decent job, own a home and a new car and just be happy most of the time. It does not come easy. School wasn't my thing either. I was never a very good student in HS and I really didn't want to go to college but I knew it was the only way I would ever be able to get a decent job. Even if you can't find a job right out of college it doesn't hurt to have a degree under your belt. Why not just try community college, maybe one or two classes at a time. You might be surprised and find out you like it. Don't compare it with HS because it's not the same, at least it wasn't for me. I loved college and am so glad I went. If you don't like the way your life is heading you need to make some changes and stop being so stubborn.

You say you are interested in owning your own business, a record label. Why don't you take a class at your local JC. I know where I live the local JC offers classes for business management for such business as music. I'm sure that there are also some local recording studios in Cleveland, why don't you get an internship or a mentor who can help you with what it takes to start a label and signing up local talent.

Originally posted by Mijada
I think you are being too picky about everything. You don't want to work third shift, you don't want to relocate, you don't want to work at a place that requires you to dress up, you don't want to go to college. Some people spend years doing things they don't like in order to get a job that they do like. That's how life is. I went through a lot of hardships before I was able to have a decent job, own a home and a new car and just be happy most of the time. It does not come easy. School wasn't my thing either. I was never a very good student in HS and I really didn't want to go to college but I knew it was the only way I would ever be able to get a decent job. Even if you can't find a job right out of college it doesn't hurt to have a degree under your belt. Why not just try community college, maybe one or two classes at a time. You might be surprised and find out you like it. Don't compare it with HS because it's not the same, at least it wasn't for me. I loved college and am so glad I went. If you don't like the way your life is heading you need to make some changes and stop being so stubborn.

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My uncle in Cleveland has a friend who's a janitor at a high school in Cleveland & he makes good money. He's been there a long time too. He has his own place & a new Lincoln Town car. I didn't know a person could make good money cleaning at a school. He doesn't fix anything at the school, he just cleans. I don't think i would wanna own a record label cause i would have to dress up. I wouldn't mind interning at a recording studio or a record label though. Mijada i can't help it if i'm picky about a job. That's just the way iam. College is out of the question so u shouldn't have mentioned that to me. I don't think i would like college.

Quit whining, you can find a job, your just not looking! All people do is want to sit on their a:censored: all day and do nothing, that's just plain laziness!

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Mijada i can't help it if i'm picky about a job. That's just the way iam. College is out of the question so u shouldn't have mentioned that to me. I don't think i would like college.

Well then you have to change the way you are if you ever want to come to a point in your life where you are happy. You do not seem like a happy person right now. You seem like a bitter person who does nothing but make excuses. If you don't want to at least and try to take peoples advice then stop complaining.

GMunster shut up. I ain't whining. Iam looking for a job but with my employment history, it's very hard cause i haven't been able to keep a job for a long time. Every job i've been fired from, my supervisors tell me i'm too slow. Target & Walmart can kiss my ass cause there's no way a person can stock the shelves very fast like they want it. All most jobs want is somebody who's gonna kiss the supervisor's ass & i ain't no ass kisser. All the jobs i've had, i've worked as fast as i can & if that ain't good enough to my bosses, f**k them. This ain't the slavery days anymore.

Well guess what, it's a dog-eat-dog world, and if you can't live up to todays modern pressure, you're not gonna survive, and if you think things will get better and you're gonna find a job where they respect you, well you're also wrong! Things will never change for the better, they can only get worse, so either eat or be eaten!

isaiahthomas: why did you make that thread if you're not going to listen to the advice these people have given you? The real world is hard, but you got to try! If you don't like the advice then quit whining. Find a way to make yourself happy!

I think that your expectations are too high; wanting a job in the music industry as a head honcho (or whatever u wanna call it) . The ones that are now UP there, didn't got started there...probably they waited tables, bartended, mopped and swept floors ect...There is nothing wrong with having dreams BUT it's even worse not wanting to make them real anyway possible.

ISAIAHTHOMAS: YOU HAVE TO WORK FROM THE BOTTOM UP MOST OF THE TIME TO REACH YOUR DREAMS!!! Heck I'm 24 years old and I've been at the same community college for three years now and STILL taking my general education classes, but I'm no quitter. I'm a fighter, and you can be too. Get off your butt, and make your dreams happen, cause NO ONE CAN DO IT FOR YOU!!! If you want soething bad enough, you gotta reach for it! There have been many times I've wanted to quit, but I'm better than that, and I want to make my life a success in the end :)

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Well i definitely know my way around Cleveland very well so i think i'm gonna apply for auto parts delivery driver. Dawsongirl when u were a auto parts delivery driver, was it a full time job & did u get benefits? I don't know if i would wanna be a actor cause i don't think i would be good at memorizing lines.

I never was one, but I know a lot of them because they deliver parts to us. And yes, they are full time. Good Luck if you go for it!