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Dr. Thong 05-07-2004, 09:45 PM Though I'm sure this will happen, I hope the producers of Joey will refrain from having guest appearances from Aniston, Cox, Kudrow, Perry and Schwimmer during the first season.
The reason being is that I feel Joey should establish itself based on its own characters and situations and not rely on "stunt casting" by a Friends cast member to boost ratings.
I'm sure it will probably happen, but I hope it won't.
What do you guys think??
Nanny Fine 05-07-2004, 09:51 PM Having them there will help Joey's ratings. I want the show to survive - if having the FRIENDS on as a boost helps by all means get them there.
Yeah, I'm also hoping there are no guest appearances from Friendsd cast members until at least the second second.
Once again, I'm drawing a Friends-Cheers, Frasier-Joey connection, but aside from a brief, five-second long cameo by Shelley Long (Diane Chambers) and a tasteful appearance by Bebe Neuwirth (Lilith), there were no guest appearances from Cheers cast members on Frasier until season two's "The Show Where Sam Shows Up."
barwars 05-08-2004, 10:57 AM Originally posted by AKA
Yeah, I'm also hoping there are no guest appearances from Friendsd cast members until at least the second second.
Once again, I'm drawing a Friends-Cheers, Frasier-Joey connection, but aside from a brief, five-second long cameo by Shelley Long (Diane Chambers) and a tasteful appearance by Bebe Neuwirth (Lilith), there were no guest appearances from Cheers cast members on Frasier until season two's "The Show Where Sam Shows Up."
And the appearance by Lilith HAD to be done.... even if it weren't a spinoff, the ex-wife had to be seen sometime.
Will and Grace Fanatic 05-08-2004, 11:55 AM I think they should have "Friend" guest star appearances during the run of the show. But only rarley. Like during the first season have a "Friends" guest star on for the first and last episode of the season. If they try to live off "Friends" they may never make it.
barwars 05-08-2004, 12:11 PM Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
I think they should have "Friend" guest star appearances during the run of the show. But only rarley. Like during the first season have a "Friends" guest star on for the first and last episode of the season. If they try to live off "Friends" they may never make it.
I disagree -- if Joey wants to get anywhere.... the pilot should be the least Friends like episode of the series.
I think Joey should already be living in LA when the show starts, without any visible ties to his NY life.
Dean Winchester 05-08-2004, 02:33 PM I think a reason Joey may have been greenlighted is because NBC figures the others will guest-star at times.
Who do you think is most likely to appear? I think Phoebe and Chandler/Monica (if Cox and Perry's schedules conflict, I can see maybe writing in that Chandler's away on business and happens to be in L.A.) will be most likely. Considering that Schwimmer and Aniston were the most outspoken "it's time to let the show end", I doubt it's likely either will guest-star on Joey, at least not in the first season or second.
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
Who do you think is most likely to appear? I think Phoebe and Chandler/Monica (if Cox and Perry's schedules conflict, I can see maybe writing in that Chandler's away on business and happens to be in L.A.) will be most likely. Considering that Schwimmer and Aniston were the most outspoken "it's time to let the show end", I doubt it's likely either will guest-star on Joey, at least not in the first season or second.
There's actually a poll (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108632) asking that very question. :)
USTVFanFromUK 05-08-2004, 03:23 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I think a reason Joey may have been greenlighted is because NBC figures the others will guest-star at times.
Who do you think is most likely to appear? I think Phoebe and Chandler/Monica (if Cox and Perry's schedules conflict, I can see maybe writing in that Chandler's away on business and happens to be in L.A.) will be most likely. Considering that Schwimmer and Aniston were the most outspoken "it's time to let the show end", I doubt it's likely either will guest-star on Joey, at least not in the first season or second.
Jennifer said if she were asked to guest star she'd do it in a heartbeat. David said he'd be directing a few episodes of "Joey". I thing the cast are pretty good friends off screen so it's likely they'll all guest star at some point. I don't think they all hate the original series like Kirstie Alley who wouldn't ever do a guest spot on Frasier.
Dr. Thong 05-08-2004, 03:31 PM barwars88,
your username would happen to be a reference to Bill Murray's lounge singer on the original Saturday Night Live, would it???
Originally posted by Dr. Thong
barwars88,
your username would happen to be a reference to Bill Murray's lounge singer on the original Saturday Night Live, would it???
"Star Wars, if they shoud... bar wars, please let these Star Wars... stay."
Answring for Barwars: It's actually a reference to Cheers. Every episode in which they engaged in their rivalry with Gary's Olde Town Tavern had the words "Bar Wars" in its title.
"Bar Wars"
"Bar Wars II: The Woodman Strikes Back"
"Bar Wars III: The Return Of Tecumseh"
"Bar Wars V: The Final Judgment"
"Bar Wars VI: This Time It's For Real"
"Bar Wars VII: The Naked Prey"
Dean Winchester 05-08-2004, 03:35 PM Originally posted by Dr. Thong
barwars88,
your username would happen to be a reference to Bill Murray's lounge singer on the original Saturday Night Live, would it???
I think it was a reference to Cheers
Dean Winchester 05-08-2004, 03:37 PM Originally posted by USTVFanFromUK
Jennifer said if she were asked to guest star she'd do it in a heartbeat. David said he'd be directing a few spisodes of "Joey". I thing the cast are pretty goof friends off screen so it's likely they'll all guest star at some point. I don't think they all hate the original series like Kirstie Alley who wouldn't ever do a guest spot on Frasier.
I never understood why Kirstie was "too big" to do Frasier. EVERY other Cheers regular eventually guested on there at least once, except Kirstie.
USTVFanFromUK 05-08-2004, 03:50 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I never understood why Kirstie was "too big" to do Frasier. EVERY other Cheers regular eventually guested on there at least once, except Kirstie.
Maybe all those Pier One ads got to her head :D haha. Anyway, am I the only one who prefers the Kirsite years to the Shelly years? I know most Cheers fans dissagree, but I liked it much better with Kirstie.
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I never understood why Kirstie was "too big" to do Frasier. EVERY other Cheers regular eventually guested on there at least once, except Kirstie.
She has stated that her beliefs as a Scientologist prevented her from appearing on the show. Apparently, they don't believe in psychiatry(???).
barwars 05-08-2004, 04:31 PM Originally posted by AKA
"Star Wars, if they shoud... bar wars, please let these Star Wars... stay."
Answring for Barwars: It's actually a reference to Cheers. Every episode in which they engaged in their rivalry with Gary's Olde Town Tavern had the words "Bar Wars" in its title.
"Bar Wars"
"Bar Wars II: The Woodman Strikes Back"
"Bar Wars III: The Return Of Tecumseh"
"Bar Wars V: The Final Judgment"
"Bar Wars VI: This Time It's For Real"
"Bar Wars VII: The Naked Prey"
It was originally for "Cheers" -- but then that is one of my alltime favorite SNL skits.
Maybe its my subconsious?!
Dr. Thong 05-08-2004, 10:17 PM Originally posted by AKA
She has stated that her beliefs as a Scientologist prevented her from appearing on the show. Apparently, they don't believe in psychiatry(???).
I can't say I blame the Cult-- I mean, Church Of Scientology - after all, it's a clear conflict of interest. They have their own form of mind control and they don't want to endorse anyone elses!
And AKA, about the SNL reference and your Bar Wars puns...you must be stopped!
On the other hand, you show more imagination that George Lucas has since...oh, I don't know...1983?
Dean Winchester 05-08-2004, 10:34 PM Originally posted by Dr. Thong
I can't say I blame the Cult-- I mean, Church Of Scientology - after all, it's a clear conflict of interest. They have their own form of mind control and they don't want to endorse anyone elses!
And AKA, about the SNL reference and your Bar Wars puns...you must be stopped!
On the other hand, you show more imagination that George Lucas has since...oh, I don't know...1983?
I'm surprised Kirstie agreed to do Cheers in the first place considering Frasier was a psychiatrist on that show too.
I think the real thing is, even tho she had a successful run on the series, I don't think she considers Cheers as "vital" to her career as Ted, Shelley, George Wendt, Rhea Perlman or the others do.
Dr. Thong 05-09-2004, 03:58 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I'm surprised Kirstie agreed to do Cheers in the first place considering Frasier was a psychiatrist on that show too.
I think the real thing is, even tho she had a successful run on the series, I don't think she considers Cheers as "vital" to her career as Ted, Shelley, George Wendt, Rhea Perlman or the others do.
Interesting, because aside from a couple of seasons of Veronica's Closet and those annoying Pier One Imports commercials, what has she done, really? I pretty much class her in the "has-been" category myself.
Some people don't know when they had a good thing...
barwars 05-09-2004, 04:00 PM Originally posted by Dr. Thong
Interesting, because aside from a couple of seasons of Veronica's Closet and those annoying Pier One Imports commercials, what has she done, really? I pretty much class her in the "has-been" category myself.
Some people don't know when they had a good thing...
Its fine with me.... if there ever was a reunion, I dont want Rebecca mucking it up.
She doesn't need Frasier.... we dont need her.
USTVFanFromUK 05-09-2004, 04:07 PM Originally posted by barwars88
Its fine with me.... if there ever was a reunion, I dont want Rebecca mucking it up.
She doesn't need Frasier.... we dont need her.
Really? I've always prefered the Kirstie years to the Shelly years. I could never stand the Diane character for some reason but loved Rebecca. Intresting to note Kirstie won a Golden Globe and and Emmy for her role as Rebecca on Cheers.
barwars 05-09-2004, 04:11 PM Originally posted by USTVFanFromUK
Really? I've always prefered the Kirstie years to the Shelly years. I could never stand the Diane character for some reason but loved Rebecca. Intresting to note Kirstie won a Golden Globe and and Emmy for her role as Rebecca on Cheers.
I prefer the Rebecca years too.
I just like the Diane character more.
Maybe its because Im resentful that Kirstie Alley never went on Frasier.
I mean, she says she's a friend of Kelsey's, yet she cant go hang out with him and make some money for a couple days.
Not to mention make him happy along with millions of fans.
But whatever -- it all ends Thursday, so I guess its the end.
Dr. Thong 05-09-2004, 04:16 PM Rebecca was okay, but Cheers was never the same once Shelley Long left - the dynamic between Sam and Diane was intense and the chemistry unmistakeable.
Cheers was still a good show, but it wasn't as good as it had once been.
Didn't this start off as a Friends thread?? This kind of reminds me of a real-life conversation where you start off talking about one topic and by the end of it, you're on a completely different topic and you have to retrace your steps to see how you got there.
:lol: :lol:
Dean Winchester 05-09-2004, 04:24 PM Originally posted by Dr. Thong
Rebecca was okay, but Cheers was never the same once Shelley Long left - the dynamic between Sam and Diane was intense and the chemistry unmistakeable.
Cheers was still a good show, but it wasn't as good as it had once been.
I agree, I much prefer watching the Diane seasons when it's on N@N.
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