From TVGUIDE.com...

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH: Kelsey Grammer apparently isn't letting Frasier go without a fight. Last month, Paramount — with Grammer's blessing — allegedly pitched NBC a new series chronicling the next phase of Frasier's life, Variety reports. NBC opted against continuing the franchise, leaving producers free to A) shop the project elsewhere, B) quit while they're ahead or C) feel silly for even suggesting such a thing. Let's pray they went with B or C.

Well, maybe not.

I WOULD NOT want to see 'Frasier' or anything like it on another network. That happened to the Golden Girls when they did Golden Palace and went to CBS...it tanked.

***********NOW FROM THE FUTON CRITIC FOR TODAY: ******************

FRASIER (NBC) - Paramount Network Television chief Garry Hart reportedly met with several NBC executives last week about the possibility of a spin-off of the soon-to-conclude series, which would chronicle the next phase in Frasier's life. Only Kelsey Grammer would make the transition to the new series, which more than likely would place Dr. Crane in a new city. Nevertheless both parties vehemently deny the meeting took place. Regardless, those familiar with the unconfirmed meeting say the Peacock flatly turned down the potential continuation of the "Cheers"/"Frasier" franchise. NBC had the right of first refusal for any "Frasier" spin-off, so with the negotiating window now closed Paramount is free to pitch the series to other broadcast networks. Key to any future of the franchise however is the involvement of Grammer, who has said on several occassions he wouldn't have minded continuing with the series for another season.***********

I agree, if a spinoff is created, it should stay on NBC.

AWESOME!!

I hope they reconsider.

I wonder what it will be like.


Kelsey OBVIOUSLY loves playing Frasier and it gives some hope for a reunion of either Frasier and/or Cheers sometime down the road.

The futon critic now has something about it...check the first post!

Quit while you're ahead Kelsey.

Two hit shows are enough.

;)

I agree...

My roommate and I were discussing the idea of Frasier Crane coming back for another spinoff, and as usual, he totally disagreed with me.

However, he had a pretty funny idea for the spinoff:

Frasier moves to another city to begin his retiremant and become a novelist.
While outlining his first novel, a crime thriller about a criminal psychiatrist, he begins researching with the local police department's detectives squad and in classic meddling Fraiser Crane style becomes entwined in various cases!

Kind of like a comedy/drama in the spirit of "Murder She Wrote."

Of course, Martin and Niles will make frequent guest appearances.

;)

Originally posted by TJL
My roommate and I were discussing the idea of Frasier Crane coming back for another spinoff, and as usual, he totally disagreed with me.

However, he had a pretty funny idea for the spinoff:

Frasier moves to another city to begin his retiremant and become a novelist.
While outlining his first novel, a crime thriller about a criminal psychiatrist, he begins researching with the local police department's detectives squad and in classic meddling Fraiser Crane style becomes entwined in various cases!

Kind of like a comedy/drama in the spirit of "Murder She Wrote."

Of course, Martin and Niles will make frequent guest appearances.

;)

haha.... sounds cool.
just make it COMPLETE comedy and itll be perfect.

Kelsey Grammer wants to continue playing "Frasier".... Laura Linney is rumored to jump into a sitcom of her own -- YOU put the 2 together.

And then you through in Bebe and I'm a happy little person.

I'd prefer if they spun off another character, like Simon Moon or somebody like that.

Alright Kelsey. Let's quit while we are ahead shall we? I mean, the show has only this last season gotten good again after a 3 year slump. It's time to stop. I love Cheers and I love Frasier, but enough is enough. He's played Frasier for 20 years, that's plenty. Let's PLEASE go out with some dignity. As someone else said, that was denied to the Golden Girls with their spinoff Golden Palace. Besides, what would they call it? Frasier: Volume 2?

Well, at least they're not planning a spin-off completely revolving around Eddie.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040512/D82H18VG3.html

Grammer: Frasier Character Could Return


NEW YORK (AP) - Kelsey Grammer isn't shutting the door on the idea of bringing back his long-running character, Frasier Crane, on another television series.

Grammer said he had discussed the idea with Paramount, the company that produces "Frasier," but there have been no definite plans.

"It may be a possibility at some point," Grammer told The Associated Press on Tuesday. "I'm not closed to the possibility. It would have to be really good."

Grammer said he'd like some time off from the character, holding off any possible return until "when the television landscape is appropriately bleak."

The 11-year run of the NBC comedy ends with Thursday's finale.

Including his stint on "Cheers," Grammer has portrayed the pompous psychiatrist for a full 20 years on network television. That ties James Arness of "Gunsmoke" for the longest stretch an actor has played a single character in prime time.

A Paramount executive declined to comment Tuesday on the possibility of the character returning in some fashion.

"The idea of him going on with the character is totally plausible," said actor David Hyde Pierce, who has played Frasier's brother, Niles. "I don't feel at the end of the series that he'd exhausted all he could do with the character. I think it's a great idea."

Pierce said no one has asked him about continuing and - given the way the series ends on Thursday - he's not sure whether another series would have room for him.

"Frasier" gets a one-hour send-off on Thursday, one week after some 52 million people watched the last episode of "Friends" on NBC.

Ratings for "Frasier," a five-time Emmy winner for best comedy, have faded over the past few years but improved recently with the approach of the finale.

they've been talking about a possible spin-off on our local radio stations. lol i think it'd be great but apparently not everyone shares that opinion

I have absolutely no problem with another spinoff. Who cares how long Kelsey plays the character. If he's happy doing it, so be it.

I understand that we will all miss Frasier, and that he loves playing that character. Why wouldn't he? But look at it this way. Would you rather see Frasier do a 3rd series, and get cancelled, after over 20 years of playing a character. No proper goodbye or anything. The stories stale, and dull. OR, would your rather watch sadly, a beloved character say goodbye with dignity in a fitting farewell tomorrow night? Personally, I think he should end with tomorrow's finale. End with dignity, and while the fans still love him. Frasier's ratings have dropped so much over the last years. I believe, were he to star in a 3rd series, it would probably not survive. The next and only other time I believe that we should see Kelsey Grammar as that character is a well written Cheers Reunion episode, a la the Dick Van Dyke Reunion Episode they did this week.

I understand what you're saying, but who knows, another series well cast and well written might do very well. I say if you have the desire, go for it.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I understand what you're saying, but who knows, another series well cast and well written might do very well. I say if you have the desire, go for it.

I agree.
Think about it another way.... Kelsey Grammer will forever be Frasier Crane, even if it weren't for Frasier.... he's been typecast for life just for Cheers.... why not have fun for yourself and millions by using your "disadvantage" to the fullest??

I think a spinoff about Frasier is a bad idea. I think there would be a lot of recylced plots if one was created. I have no problem with another character from Frasier being spun off though.

I think it would be interesting if Frasier were put in a new series, although not as the star.
Part of an ensemble where nobody really stands above the rest.... but still will have the name recognition of "Frasier Crane"

All good things must come to an end...even Frasier. And even if he loves playing the character, it's time to stop. I would rather him leave while audiences still love him, then get cancelled a forgotten memory. Plus, I doubt this new show would even be on NBC. His ratings of late simply aren't good enough to warrant a new show, and let's face it, in this worlds TV game, it's all about the ratings.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I understand what you're saying, but who knows, another series well cast and well written might do very well. I say if you have the desire, go for it.
Well, lightening struck twice with Frasier, but do you honestly believe it could strike a third time?

Hey if Kelsey Grammer wants to keep going with another Frasier spin off I'm all for it. I'll be behind him. I'll watch it. I love Frasier! to bad that Lillith and Frasier aren't together anymore :)

Here's my 2Cents...

Kelsey Grammer obviously enjoys playing the character of Frasier Crane, and if he can find another network that will finance a spin-off, so be it. I think it will be funny. The Frasier finale set up the perfect situation- Frasier could end up moving to San Fransisco. I'm sure they could rework the show to make it stand-out from Frasier. Remember Archie Bunker's Place? It ran for four years after All in the Family ended. Anyway, I can only hope...

I think there's a chance this third series could take off. Laura Linney does have a lot of fans, I know people who never watched Frasier but would watch a show with her in it.

I doubt the next show will last 11 seasons, but I do think people are getting tired of reality series and wanna find a comedy (since Scrubs is about the only good one left on NBC, W&G is considered past it's prime as well) on television that is smart and funny. There frankly isn't as much of a variety choice of sitcoms now. Don't count it out.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I think there's a chance this third series could take off. Laura Linney does have a lot of fans, I know people who never watched Frasier but would watch a show with her in it.

I doubt the next show will last 11 seasons, but I do think people are getting tired of reality series and wanna find a comedy (since Scrubs is about the only good one left on NBC, W&G is considered past it's prime as well) on television that is smart and funny. There frankly isn't as much of a variety choice of sitcoms now. Don't count it out.

Dont count on what??
A spinoff??

"Third Times A Charm"
Starring Kelsey Grammar as Dr. Frasier Crane
with Laura Linney as Charlotte (whats her last name?!)

After a successful 11 year run as a radio psychiatrist in Seattle, Dr. Crane moves to Chicago to be with the love of his life, his former matchmaker, Charlotte. With his move to Chicago, Frasier returns to private practice, while he begins his new life living with Charlotte.

Originally posted by barwars88
Dont count on what??
A spinoff??

I meant, Don't count it out about how we're stuck in reality tv hell, and a lot of lame sitcoms. That a third Frasier series should be given the benefit of the doubt instead of "you honestly think lightning will strike a third time?" because I think if anything, with the climate tv is in today, the third series would do very well, especially since Laura Linney does have a cult following (she's not an A-list actress, but she does have many loyal fans)

From Yahoo TV News: (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/eo/20040512/108442440000.html)

The promo clips show Niles, in an apparent goodbye scene, telling Frasier that he will miss their coffee dates at Café Nervosa. Does that mean windbag Frasier will be heading off to the Windy City himself?

Also, about that spinoff series pitch that Paramount denies ever took place...a source says the storyline of the new sitcom was to revolve around Frasier's new life with, you guessed it, Charlotte.




Ive grown to like Laura Linney, and love the character of Frasier Crane.... and if the spinoff is indeed about their new lives together -- I back it even more.

Just as long as we get the occasional guest appearance by Lilith :). I wonder how the show will do. NBC has a history of cancelling shows off the bat when they're a flop in the ratings. Hopefully, critical acclaim will be on its side.

Chances are it probably wont air on NBC, but rather CBS.
I wouldve liked it on NBC more -- it always seemed like the "classiest" network.
But whatever happens with Dr. Crane -- Im there!!

Maybe Frasier will meet another physchiatrist in Chicago by the name of Dr. Bob Hartley and they can do a show together which would be a double spinoff. Maybe Fraiser could analyze Bob's dream that he was an innkeeper in Vermont!

Originally posted by barwars88
Chances are it probably wont air on NBC, but rather CBS.
I wouldve liked it on NBC more -- it always seemed like the "classiest" network.
But whatever happens with Dr. Crane -- Im there!!

just curious, but why would CBS want it over NBC?

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
just curious, but why would CBS want it over NBC?

Well, the entire spinoff is only a rumor at this point.
A very highly publised rumor, but still only a rumor.

Anyways -- its rumored that NBC had the first oppurtunity at any sort of Frasier spinoff, they didnt take it, so Grub Street and Paramount (Frasier's production companies) decided to find a new home for Frasier, and seeing that Viacom owns both Paramount and CBS -- CBS is the most likely candidate.
Unless, of course -- the NBC rumor is false, and Frasier might return.



Is there any way a spinoff being worked up now, could air this fall??

Is there any way a spinoff being worked up now, could air this fall??

I doubt it. It seems like this has just been recently in the works, and it takes a while to get a show off the ground.

After the show gets pitched (concept, and other tentative things worked out), casting and writing begins -- which in itself can take several weeks. Then they'd film and screen the piolet episode (which would take anywhere from 2 weeks to a month, depending on how well the original script was written, need to recast roles, etc.), and show it to test audiences. If the original network doesn't take the show, then they'd have to shop around for another network, until finally going into full production. Also, contract negotiations would have to take place for the actors, producers, etc. at some point, and negotiations determining a budget and how many episodes they'd be allotted to film before ratings/reviews came in.

That said, if everything went smoothly, I doubt they'd be ready (3-5 episodes in PP) to begin the series at the beginning of next season (September). They probably would be able to do it for mid to late October, which some networks do, but in that case, we'd probably only get three episodes before they had to take a 2 week hiatus for filming and PP to catch up.

If anyone gets a spinoff it should be ROZ. I think that she should get one. It can have Frasier guest starrs in it sometimes around the station too, or in the cafe. Niles and Daphine could be around in a few episodes here and there, and I would definately expect Bulldog to be there. Whatever happened to him on Frasier anyway? I haven't watched regularly in quite some time. It seems to me like he just dissapeared.

Originally posted by cjmg85
If anyone gets a spinoff it should be ROZ. I think that she should get one. It can have Frasier guest starrs in it sometimes around the station too, or in the cafe. Niles and Daphine could be around in a few episodes here and there, and I would definately expect Bulldog to be there. Whatever happened to him on Frasier anyway? I haven't watched regularly in quite some time. It seems to me like he just dissapeared.

In a way, he did kinda disappear. On the show, he was fired from his radio job. Eventually he was hired back by the station to work in the basement.

Yes! Frasier must continue. The best show on television can't die.