According to Variety magazine, Will & Grace though being the fill-in to Friends, the whole cast are not expected to come back after it's 7th and apparently final season in May 2005. The show which has been a big success to Friends have been the 2nd highest rated program NBC has on the air. Will & Grace has been nominated for 12 emmys in the 2001-02 season and has been nomiated a total of 17 SAG awards from 2000-2004.

NBC only picked up W&G and the whole casts contracts expire after the 2004-05 season. It's a done deal!

In addition Megan Mullally's charecter Karen Walker is thinking about a spinoff to W&G for 2005-06 season but none has been determined yet.

The show it'self has drawn about $125 million per episode since the show has debuted in Sept 1998. Ironically That '70s Show debuted about 1 month before W&G did!

Will & Grace will join other shows that are ending after next season in which are Everybody Loves Raymond, NYPD Blue, Will & Grace's sister show, That '70s Show, King of the Hill and Simpsons.

So Will & Grace will only have one more season after this but I think the show now has ran it's course.

Sorry if all of you Will & Grace fans are dissapoiunted but some of the attribtues to the show ending after next season is that the writing crew of W&G has decided to either leave the show or they have run out of great storylines for the show.

Though storylines have had good with Grace and Leo, The whole other stories has not been all that funny. Yeah IMO, There has been some good strong episodes this season, but the jokes aren't as laugh as loud funny as the early episodes. Will & Grace has gone through it's course. So Debra, It;s great that you gave birth to your baby boy congratulations! Unfortunately, this show will pack up after next season That's final!! So adieu '70s Show and W&G!

:crybaby:

That sucks! I just started watching it not too long ago.

Aw..! I love this show! That stinks! :(

You have to be kidding me! Wow, I can't believe this. omg:

The show has been such a hit and still brings in great ratings, I just assumed it would be on for at least another 3-4 years. Unbelievable.

I know some episodes this season have been slipping in overall "ha, ha funnyness" but I still thought the show was safe for a while.

Man, this sucks!

Originally posted by dynoguy88
You have to be kidding me! Wow, I can't believe this. omg:

The show has been such a hit and still brings in great ratings, I just assumed it would be on for at least another 3-4 years. Unbelievable.

I know some episodes this season have been slipping in overall "ha, ha funnyness" but I still thought the show was safe for a while.

Man, this sucks!

You see, one of the attributes of W&G ending next season is that some of the writing cast members are going to leave next season because of the big impact of Friends leaving and thus leaving Will & Grace on life support. Friends & Will & Grace is similar to J! and WoF in game show lingo, if WoF goes away J! has to go too.

Take for example That '70s Show. The whole cast says that since their contract's end next season, Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace proclaim and implied that next season would be their last. But if '70s continues into 2006, then the whole casts would have to ask for more salary Money for FOX and Carsey-Warner-Mandabach ('70s Parent distributor) So that means that The whole cast would be on the air until at least 2006. So the whole cast would really change their minds about making next season the last. But since Will & grace will be exiting like '70s Show, this means that our popular shows of the late '90s will be gone into history.

Another BIG thing is that Megan Mullally is considering a spinoff charecter for 2005-06 season so meaning that without Karen, the show would be lost so that is the main reason why Will & Grace is ending in 2005! Besides when her show spins-off Karen would most likely replace W&G when it ends.:( :(


In addition Here is what Debra Messing implied when Joan Rivers Interviewed her at the Golden Globes:

at the golden globes, joan rivers interviewed debra and she said that next season is officially their last year.

So it's now official Will & Grace (1998-2005)

So the list of shows that are ending next season are.

Everybody loves Raymond
That '70s Show
Will & Grace
NYPD Blue
Simpsons
King of the Hill
Andromeda


What may be left will be
King of Queens
The Bernie Mac Show
Malcom in the Middle
2 and 1/2 men
8 Simple Rules
My Wife and Kids
According to Jim
the list can go on and on but the main thing is that now, Will & Grace will only have one more year to go before they blow their series finale next year. Lets hope that it is a big hit since it won't last long:wave: :wave:

It's a shame that Will & Grace is ending but it's one of the greatest shows right next to both That '70s Show and King of the Hill. So Goodbye Will & Grace!:wave: :wave: :wave:

how do you know that the simpsons is ending?

Originally posted by fabernash
how do you know that the simpsons is ending?

If you go to Kingof the Hill's thread and there it is To stay until at least through May 2004 on FOX. There will be your'e explaination. Also if you check out TVTome.comand you see The Simpsons site, you will see that it will be through 2004-05 season only. But then again, I may be wrong.

The Simpsons is no longer smart. A good episode every now and then, but the storylines & episodes are no longer consistent and the majority of jokes/gags aren't funny.

I think there are more then those reasons Will and Grace will end next year if this is true.

One as you say is the writers are leaving after this season. Other reasons are probably because the creators of the show no longer have any control of the show. Another factor would be the declining ratings. this season it averages about 15.5 million viewers.

Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
I think there are more then those reasons Will and Grace will end next year if this is true. (I'm afraid it is!:sad::(:()

One as you say is the writers are leaving after this season. Other reasons are probably because the creators of the show no longer have any control of the show. Another factor would be the declining ratings. this season it averages about 15.5 million viewers.

Correction, W&G Fanatic. The writers contracts end after the 2004-05 season so this means that they will only have one more year to go. In fact when you go to TVtome.com's site and look under W&G, the show says that NBC picked up the series through 2004-05 season only!

One major reason is that Karen is in the works of a Spinoff of her charecter for the 2005-06 season. this would mean that Jack & Karen would be on the show as main supporting characters rather than secondary with W&G. The fact is that the storylines are flat for W&G now a days since the new episodes aren't as laugh out loud funny as the old episodes are.

Take That '70s Show for example. The whole cast and crew want to call it quits after next season since they draw more of the younger viewer crowds like Will & Grace. While '70s My #1 show next to W&G is up year-to-year on both FOX and the repeats in Syndication (In my area, That '70s Show and Will & Grace air as part of the funny block on UPN.)

Now since each charecter as played their roles for 6-7 years. Don't you think it is time to move on for Ashton Kutcher, Topher Grace, Mila Kunis, Laura Prepon, Wilmer Valderamma and the whole gang at '70s or to a certain degree, the whole cast of W&G to move on? The casts of both shows are starting to show signs of wear & tear unfortunately and that is why That '70s Show & Will & Grace are both ending next season. So now like it or not, it's going to happen. Goodbye '70s & W&G (1998-2005)
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :( :( :wave:

Originally posted by JD2635
In fact when you go to TVtome.com's site and look under W&G, the show says that NBC picked up the series through 2004-05 season only!

First of all, it doesn't say only. And this is also posted at TV Tome:

Currently the show is set to have Season 7, and work has already begun on the scripts. What is still unknown is whether this will be the last season. According to Variety, talks will being in June to discuss whether the show will be renewed or if this will be the last season. It is pretty safe to say that NBC will want to renew the show until at least a 10th season. However, due to recent problems with Kohan & Mutchnick, its still unknown who will be representing the show durring the talks with both NBC and Warner Bros. Cross your fingers!

First of all, it doesn't say only. And this is also posted at TV Tome: Currently the show is set to have Season 7, and work has already begun on the scripts. What is still unknown is whether this will be the last season. According to Variety, talks will being in June to discuss whether the show will be renewed or if this will be the last season. It is pretty safe to say that NBC will want to renew the show until at least a 10th season. However, due to recent problems with Kohan & Mutchnick, its still unknown who will be representing the show durring the talks with both NBC and Warner Bros. Cross your fingers!

Well, it's going to go out like I said like That '70s Show. It's not going to happen. It's too late! The cast will only go though this season and besides don't they need to take a break and move on like Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace? The trouble is that W&G is not going to last that much longer. If it were, '70s Would move to NBC and join W&G on Thursdays. So needless to say, this season will be it's last on NBC so as Red Forman would say "Good BYE DumbA**!"

Originally posted by JD2635
Well, it's going to go out like I said like That '70s Show. It's not going to happen. It's too late! The cast will only go though this season and besides don't they need to take a break and move on like Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace? The writing is just too far flat! So XXXXXXXX! This info from Variety is wrong I tell you! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

What's too late? You really make no sense about this sometimes. You seem to be making this up as you go along. If it was already official that it was ending after next season (I'm not saying it's not), then there would be a bunch of sources about this. You act as if you are a spokesperson for the show or something.

Originally posted by HuntingtonM15
What's too late? You really make no sense about this sometimes. You seem to be making this up as you go along. If it was already official that it was ending after next season (I'm not saying it's not), then there would be a bunch of sources about this. You act as if you are a spokesperson for the show or something.

One thing, You are such a DUMBA**!

I'm just kind of bitter about the fac That '70s will be leaving next season because they just want to move on. But you never know if the whole cast of '70s will come back? I think it is safe to say That '70s Show will be coming back for what is most likely it's final year. So Will & Grace may just have to call it quits next season.

Originally posted by JD2635
So Will & Grace may just have to call it quits next season.

Yes, may is the key word there. There's a possibility it might end after next season, but then again it might not. We will just have to wait and see what happens.

Originally posted by HuntingtonM15
Yes, may is the key word there. There's a possibility it might end after next season, but then again it might not. We will just have to wait and see what happens.

Ok. Will just have to wait and see. I'm sorry. Do you forgive me?

Originally posted by JD2635
Ok. Will just have to wait and see. I'm sorry. Do you forgive me?

You didn't do anything wrong. It's just that you kept going on and on about how it's definitely over next season, and we don't know that yet.

Originally posted by HuntingtonM15
You didn't do anything wrong. It's just that you kept going on and on about how it's definitely over next season, and we don't know that yet.

OK. BTW, have you ever watched That '70s Show before? It's just as funny as Will & Grace so that is why I feel that they are similar!

Nope, I've never watched That 70's Show.

Now that this season's finale is done and the trouble with Kohan/Mutchnick/WB financial problems thus not renewing the show after next season, how can we predict the most likable series finale come next season? The show along with That '70s Show and King of the Hill now has officially as I say it has run it's course. :( II really hate to say this but Will & Grace will be ending next season even though NBC wants to renew contracts to keep this show until 2008 though now it seems highly unlikely with the budget problerms with Kohan/ Mutchnick, if they didn't put too many celeb cameo on almost every show. This show is too expensive to continue.

i'm confused how is will and grace and that 70's show "sister" shows? Also where did u find out that w&G is ending? i find it hard to believe that NBC wouldn't renew the contract of their #1 rated sitcom (now that friends is gone).

W&G has gone sour and its viewership has declined. Not as bad as Drew Carey or Just Shoot Me, but I have a feeling that, if the show does indeed go longer than one more season, it will be just as bad, in terms of ratings. The quality has aleady drowned.

Originally posted by trekkie
W&G has gone sour and its viewership has declined. Not as bad as Drew Carey or Just Shoot Me, but I have a feeling that, if the show does indeed go longer than one more season, it will be just as bad, in terms of ratings. The quality has aleady drowned.
Don't forget Becker, their viewership has also declined as well.
Very Well said. The new shows isn't as fun to watch anymore. That '70s Show On the other hand is still having stronger storyline than W&G and thus I think that the show should have new reconstructive lines thus reconsidering next season to be the last.

So bottom line, W&G needs to shape up their acts and scripts and has to start getting a move on to stop the declining ratings. If not, then this show will bid adieu with '70s/King Of the Hill/Raymond next year. Sorry but that is reality!:wave: :wave: :wave:

Why does everyone keep comparing W&G to That 70's show? they have nothing in common. W&G has soured a lot but the thing is that its a cash cow for NBC and the # 1 rated sitcom on the network, NBC will do anything they can to keep the show on the air. despite the overall quality of the show. Plus the industry loves it.

Here's something to think about: after That 70's Show stops production, W&G will be the best sitcom on TV (well, second best; Malcolm in the Middle is still d@mn hilarious and hasn't soured a bit!). If the viewership declines even more next season, would it be feasible for NBC to keep it in production? A show that is waaaaaaaaaaaay past its time, ratings seeing a dramatic decline, yet the actors, writers, etc are still paid millions.

Drew Carey for example: his show remained in production after the star originally promised to call it quits ... his salary is raised ... suddenly the show becomes television's favorite joke.

What's more important: more money or both money AND reputation?

Look at Friends and Frasier: both ended on a high note before becoming sour. That 70's Show is ending on a high note as well.

Originally posted by trekkie
Here's something to think about: after That 70's Show stops production, W&G will be the best sitcom on TV (well, second best; Malcolm in the Middle is still d@mn hilarious and hasn't soured a bit!). If the viewership declines even more next season, would it be feasible for NBC to keep it in production? A show that is waaaaaaaaaaaay past its time, ratings seeing a dramatic decline, yet the actors, writers, etc are still paid millions.

Drew Carey for example: his show remained in production after the star originally promised to call it quits ... his salary is raised ... suddenly the show becomes television's favorite joke.

What's more important: more money or both money AND reputation?

Look at Friends and Frasier: both ended on a high note before becoming sour. That 70's Show is ending on a high note as well.

Yes. That is true. I do think that FOX wants to extend '70s Show through the 2005/06 season so that the cast salaries would have more money for making that season '05/'06 the real last season of '70s instead of next season. W&G does ahave a chance to shine to, but the treatment that NBC is giving the show is so bad to the point that the show is in peril to go on after next season, so W&G should end on a high note while the show is still hot. Oh yeah, and when Karen really spins off in 05-06 season. At least that is a way to make the show real hot right next to Kitty Forman's laughter as well.


Oh and to factsoflinefan the only comparison to '70s/W&G is Kitty Forman & Karen Walker. They both have the same build and laughter as well. At least Kitty/Karen's laugh are similar but I think the diference of a laughter is too close to call IMHO!:wave: :wave: :p :D

One thing that would make Megan Mullally go out with a bang is if she guest stars on That '70s Show next season to play as Debra Jo (Kitty's) cousin.:D

And I know Will & grace will probably end next season is because Their current contracts expire after next season and also the KoMut Production company is in financial problem territorry so by that mean it will have to force ending Will & Grace because I think that the whole cast should decide that they should move on. The storylines from this season are the worst season ever!:( :(

Well I hope it doesn't end! A show with Karen and Jack would be pretty cool though but I wouldn't get to see the gorgeous Eric!
Nothing will be the same as W&G though! :(

Eric McCormick is a very good and likable actor; I'm sure he'll be in something else. Debra Messing is just too awesome of a cokedic actress to not get on another series or start a major film career. Megan Mulholly (or however you spell her name) is a versatile actress; she's been a Broadway singer; but spin-offs are a major risk; so far, Happy Days and Frasier are the only ones that have been hugely succesful.

Originally posted by trekkie
Eric McCormick is a very good and likable actor; I'm sure he'll be in something else. Debra Messing is just too awesome of a cokedic actress to not get on another series or start a major film career. Megan Mulholly (or however you spell her name) is a versatile actress; she's been a Broadway singer; but spin-offs are a major risk; so far, Happy Days and Frasier are the only ones that have been hugely succesful.


That is NOT TRUE AT ALL... there have been plenty of successuffl spin-offs. Melrose Place was a 90210 spin-off, Knots Landing from Dallas. Laverne and Shriley from Happy Days, Maude/The Jeffersons from All In The Family, The Law and Order spinoffs, CSI: Miami from CSI. and so on.

I got mixed up on the Laverne and Shirley/Happy Days one; sorry. Just got them reversed :). And I was just referring to sitcom spin-offs. The Cosby Show spin-off is alright, but didn't do wonders or anything while in production. Joey looks pretty bad (as much as I like Matt LeBlanc). The Brady Bunch series after the original one did terrible. So did the later "Munsters" series.

Maybe so but despite the quality many of the sitcom spin-offs were VERY successful, in terms of ratings and critics.

Let's just call it 50/50. Some are good. And some are dreadful.

Latest example: "My Big Fat Greek Life" (a movie spin-off, but really the same thing as a television one, seeing that the show strays so far away from everything that makes the original great)

True some are very bad. however in terms of ratings and critical acclaim there have been several successful spin-offs- Facts Of Life comes to mind. Never a critical fave but definetly successful, i mean it was on for ten years. it still ranks as one of the longest running shows in NBC history.

Spin offs are 9 times out of 10 bad...but Karen Walker rules.

She probably could pull it off on her own show...

Well, Matt LeBlanc is awesome as well. Actually, in terms of physicality and expressions, he's a better actor than she is.
But "Joey" still looks pretty bad. Just because a great celebrity is in it doesn't mean the show will be good :). Most always, the celebrity "is" the programs only good/reedeeming quality. Look at "Woopi" w/Woopi Goldberg, "Raising Dad" w/Bob Saget, the final season of "Spin City" w/Charlie Sheen, the recent two shows with John Laraquette and Norm McDonald, the three "post-Seinfield" disasters...
And Jason Alexander has a new show this Fall that has already been panned (beyond panned even; some of the reviews are that bad) by all the critics.

Originally posted by trekkie
[And Jason Alexander has a new show this Fall that has already been panned (beyond panned even; some of the reviews are that bad) by all the critics. [/B]

All of them? really? every single one?

All that I've read. U might have read a positive review or two; I dunno.

Originally posted by Yemana's Coffee
Spin offs are 9 times out of 10 bad...but Karen Walker rules.

She probably could pull it off on her own show...

At least Megan Miullally comes on as the same with Debra Jo Rupp's Kitty Forman Charecter. Both of their laughs are so adorable that Megan and Debra Jo should both guest star on both That '70s Show and Will & Grace. That should be a big ratings boost!:D

Originally posted by trekkie
Here's something to think about: after That 70's Show stops production, W&G will be the best sitcom on TV (well, second best; Malcolm in the Middle is still d@mn hilarious and hasn't soured a bit!). If the viewership declines even more next season, would it be feasible for NBC to keep it in production? A show that is waaaaaaaaaaaay past its time, ratings seeing a dramatic decline, yet the actors, writers, etc are still paid millions.

Drew Carey for example: his show remained in production after the star originally promised to call it quits ... his salary is raised ... suddenly the show becomes television's favorite joke.

What's more important: more money or both money AND reputation?

Look at Friends and Frasier: both ended on a high note before becoming sour. That 70's Show is ending on a high note as well.

Will & Grace and That '70s Show will be ending after their 7th and final seasons! T70sS/W&G (1998-2005)

Originally posted by JD2635
Will & Grace and That '70s Show will be ending after their 7th and final seasons! T70sS/W&G (1998-2005)

Not TRUE AT ALL. no one has announced that W&G is ending this year. it will come down to if the stars all resign their contracts. and i believe that they will, NBC will try to do everything and anything to get it back even w/ratings slipping the show is still an important show to NBC. it will stay.

In addition Megan Mullally's charecter Karen Walker is thinking about a spinoff to W&G for 2005-06 season but none has been determined yet.

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