View Full Version : MISSING WIFE--Christi Nichols Case
canadianmysterygrl 03-26-2004, 11:20 PM This case got to me. I felt the husband was very flat and rather creepy in the interview so I do feel heis likely guilty. People who knew Christysaid she would not have left her children willingly and sicne she was seeing a lawyer about a divorce I feel certain the husband is mixed up in her disappearance.
Does anyone know more on this case?
crystaldawn 03-27-2004, 09:09 AM I don't know of any updates in the case, but I agree with you. It is so clear to me that the husband is guilty. A few days after she went missing he moved out of their house and sold both their cars! Then the suitcase they found months later, the police think it had been neatly placed there and the husband was able to detail exactly what was in it. Also the babysitter said she didn't see or hear Christy when the husband came home. It would just be normal for a mother to go ask the babysitter how the children were and if everything went alright. All they need to do now is find her body so they can arrest him!
canadianmysterygrl 03-27-2004, 12:37 PM Do you know the date of the case Crystal?
Also do you know the UM episode number or date so I can look it up?
I am really interested in this case but missed those details.
So many of these cases took place in the 1980's and that's so long ago one almost thinks many will remain unsolved at this point unless the bodies are found and DNA evidence can be helpful.
I sure wish there were new cases on UM as I get so tired of repeats and esp. of viewing already solved cases. (whine whine)
green apples 03-29-2004, 02:59 PM I felt like the husband had something to do with it, like Crystal said he knew all the contents in the suitcase. It looked like it had just been placed there. Hopefully someday soon they find a body.
UMfan77 03-30-2004, 01:17 PM Could you give me a description of this case, the name Christy Nichols sounds familiar but I don't remember the story.
unsolvedfan4life 03-30-2004, 04:45 PM it was one of the older cases probably from the late 80's early. 90's. The husband was very wierd looking. She went to the doctors days before and the nurse described her acting like a scared rabbit. The couple was last seen when they went out to drink and shoot pool. The babysitter does not remember the wife comming back in. The next day she was missing. It just does not seem she would run away from her kids. I myself too believe the husband was involved.
UMfan77 03-30-2004, 05:18 PM Okay, now it's coming more into focus. When you mentioned that the babysitter didn't remember the wife coming back in, that's when it hit me that I've seen this one before.
canadianmysterygrl 03-30-2004, 07:05 PM I find it so sad to see such old shows knowing there is nothing new. I mean after so many years there is little hope the person is alive and you worry the killer is going toget off scott free. I hope the husband, if guilty, gets caught by DNA somehow.
kadrmas15 08-27-2006, 06:22 PM I just watched this case again. I usually will watch these cases repeatedly and then form my opinion. My opinion on this is the husband did murder his wife. There is really no getting past it. He certainly had the motive. His wife was going to leave him, when he found out about it he became enraged and killed her. Maybe he didnt intend it for it to happen or maybe he didnt plan it out. Since it was only two days before her disapperance that she went to the lawyer he probably didnt have too much time to plan it out. He doesnt come off as being the smartest guy in the world yet he still pulled it off. I think when they went out drinking she told him that she was going to divorce him and take his kids away and I think he became enraged and killed her and dumped her body in a location that it would never be found. The last time she was for sure seen alive was around midnight when her and Mark left the bar. Mark claims after the bar he and Christy went to a 24 hour convienence store and then arrived home. I think after they left the bar, Mark and Christy drove out to the country where Mark killed Christy dumped her body somewhere and then he drove home. He claims Christy walked right by the babysitter when they got home yet the babysitter said she would have seen or heard Christy had she done this. Also, Mark paid the babysitter himself something he had never done before. Mark and Christy also had a history of domestic violence. I didnt buy Mark's story about how Christy was attacking him and he threw her on the bed to get her to stop and she hurt her thumb that way. Also within days of his wife's disapperance how he moved out of their house and sold their cars. Also Mark knowing the contents of the suitcase to a tee. The guy is guilty, he knows it, the cops know it, everyone in that town knows it. But he cant be charged because they dont have a body. If they had a body he would be arrested on the spot, I am sure of it.
crystaldawn 08-27-2006, 07:55 PM One of the all time creeps profiled on UM in my opinion and I definitely think he killed his wife. His on camera appeal for her to come home suggesting she abandoned her children sickened me. Someone posted on Echoes months ago who was from the area and said they found a spot of blood in his car soon after she went missing but it was too small to test. Her husband has gotten remarried and is raising the children he had with Christi with his new wife. Just like Chad Noe going on with his life with as of yet no repercussions for the crimes they may have committed.
unsolved88 08-27-2006, 08:19 PM I think Mark Nichols is right up there with Paul Pollis and Jule Caylor in terms of being guilty. One thing that struck me as odd about his interview was when he said that Christy tried to burn him with a cigarette when he tried to stop her from going out, yet he insisted that he never tried to control or abuse her in any way. And secondly, who was he to stop Christy from going anywhere to begin with? The woman was 24!
wiseguy182 08-27-2006, 08:36 PM I agree with everyone here in that I think Mark is guilty, and that he's one of the biggest creeps ever profiled on UM.
Here, in no particular order, are the top 5 guiltiest persons on UM that have never been charged, IMO.
1. Mark Nichols
2. Paul Pollis
3. Rob Page
4. Jules Caylor
5. Chad Noe (haven't actually seen this one yet, but I believe CD is putting on UM favorites vol 5, and from what I've read here on the boards, he seems very guilty.
I agreed with all of the above posts.
Anyone want to expand this and make it a top 10?
kadrmas15 08-27-2006, 08:51 PM Oh yes, in addition to Mark Nichols, Chad Noe is certainly guilty. Noe either himself actually killed Wendy Camp or he at least planned it. Noe and Nichols both belong in prison but sadly probably will never see the inside of a cell because the authorities have never found the bodies. Noe is probably re married too and the son he had with Wendy I believe would be 16 or 17 now. Noe was supposedly boasting in a bar about how he had killed Wendy and how he had hid her body in a place it would never be found. Chad Noe and Mark Nichols both appeared on UM because they thought they would appear innocent by appearing on the show. However their apperances on the show actually ended up pretty much sealing the deal for me that they were guilty just by the way they acted. Both Nichols and Noe and the way they talked about Christy and Wendy you could tell there was bad blood. As for Rob Page, there is another one that probably knocked off his wife or hired someone else to do it and he got away with it because they never found her body. I was honestly shocked by Jules Caylor. Just the way he acted. However that made me think maybe he didnt do it. I just think if he had done it he wouldnt act so non remoreseful and like he was glad she was gone. He just honestly seemed like he really could care less that she was gone. But Mark Nichols needs to be in prison. He didnt seem like the smartest guy and he made some blunders but clearly he was smart enough to be able to pull this off with leaving little physical evidence as to a physical assault. The blood in the car would be a give a way but since it was so small to test he pretty much got away with it. He sold the car and God knows where it is now. Stephen Marfeo was another one. He killed Doreen most likely. As we all saw in the update in 1999 he got drunk and in a drunken rage killed his ex-girlfriend and seriously wounded her boyfriend and then he drove around for a few hours and then shot himself.
wiseguy182 08-28-2006, 03:42 AM Funny you should mention Stephen Marfeo, I was seriously thinking about including that one in my original list. I'll make him #6. I think that since he killed an ex-girlfriend and seriously wounded the boyfriend, the odds would have it that he killed Doreen as well.
kadrmas15 08-28-2006, 10:59 AM Yeah, honestly if I had been watching the segment on Stephen Marfeo when it first aired I probably wouldnt have thought he did that to her. However after seeing the update I thought the odds were much better that he had murdered Doreen. Either it was because she was going to leave him and he didnt want her to or it was something that he hadnt planned out, like they got in an arugment and he pushed her and she hit her head and died and he panicked and got rid of her body. But when someone does what he does and kills an ex-girlfriend and attempts to kill her boyfriend that tells you he didnt just wake up that day and decide to kill her he had been doing that for a while. I will say if he didnt kill Doreen it was a strange coincidence that what happened, happened with the ex-girlfriend. He probably did kill Doreen though. I know the Johnston, Rhode Island Police thought he did it. But they didnt have a body so the D.A. wouldnt press charges so they never arrested him. There was just the little things about Marfeo. Some of the details he gave about Doreen shortly before her disapperance. How it was him that for sure typed one of the letters and how he probably typed the other one. I think an expert said the two letters sent to the police were probably written by the same person.
kadrmas15 08-28-2006, 11:11 AM Rob Page and Mark Nichols, two guys who also should be behind bars for murder. However like with Marfeo, the police I am sure thought both these guys did it but didnt arrest them because there was no body and it would be hard, almost impossible to make charges stick. As someone stated earlier, apperantly Nichols is re-married and rasing the two kids he had with Christy. I am sure Rob Page is re- married as well. You could tell that the Peoria Police thought Page did it but there wasnt a whole lot they could do without a body. I am just trying to imagine how these murders took place even. Mark Nichols left the bar with Christy around midnight, that is when Christy was last seen. Mark was home by 1 I think. So he had about an hour's time, probably less than that even to kill her and get rid of the body. Rob Page's case is just so strange. I am kind of surprised they never found Pam's body. Although with Christy, Mark probably ditched her in some woods or buried her in a field in Nebraska and in some of those woods years can go by probably without someone walking in them.
wiseguy182 08-28-2006, 09:54 PM You had a lot of good points in your last couple of posts there, kadrmas15. Given what the segment said about Stephen Marfeo's behavior, he seemed like the type that would have planned this out over more of a long run as opposed to Mark Nichols. Stephen seemed to have a pretty quick and hot temper.
I think that Christy probably told Mark the night she disappeared that she was going to leave him, and probably wanted to do it at a location where there would be many people around (the bar), so that if Mark did take it hard, he would have to watch what he said/did or else he would get thrown out of the bar/arrested. My theory is that Mark made it seem in the bar that he accepted it, then coaxed her out of the bar and then killed her. Yet the strange thing is, Mark seemed to have gotten away with it despite being inexperienced and having only one hour (from 12 to 1 as you said) From what I've heard about Nebraska, it's pretty sparsely populated with miles on end of fields, so that's probably why Christy's body hasn't turned up. Mark probably had many choices as to where to dump the body.
As far as Rob Page remarrying goes, I wouldn't be suprised if he had remarried. The psychic interviewed in the segment said that in her vision she saw Rob and another woman burying Pam's body in a remote field. That was probably the woman Rob wanted to hook up with.
kadrmas15 08-29-2006, 09:02 PM That is actually a pretty good theory wiseguy. I agree that I think Christy told Mark at some point on the night she disappeared that she wanted a divorce and he probably acted at first like he had taken it well and so she probably lowered her guard and then when they left the bar he probably took her out to the country and killed her. He most likely killed her by strangling her. It was just the way he acted and the little things that happened involving him that made me think he killed his wife. There was the story of Mark's that he was driving around looking for Christy during the day yet no one recalled seeing him driving around. He moved out of the house the day after her disapperance and within weeks had sold both their cars. He also had boxed up her clothes within weeks of her disapperance. Also how he was able to list all the contents of the suitcase she had taken with her when she had supposedly left. Also how the suitcase was thrown out in such a way like the person that threw it out wanted it to be found. Mark and Christy's marriage was well known to have lots of emotional abuse and at times physical abuse. Mark also was a classic example of an abusive husband. How during his interview on UM he made it sound like Christy brought any abuse onto herself. Also how he downplayed the abuse. Everytime he would say he wasnt a violent person and that he had nothing to do with his wife's disapperance he would always shake his head or he would look down. The police know he did it, he knows he did it, and most people think he did it. However without a body he will never be charged. His kids are now in their early twenties and he has got away with murder.
As for Stephen Marfeo, I agree the guy seemed like he had a hot temper. But he was smart and he looked to be in great shape, very strong. Why he killed Doreen is unknown. That case was just so strange. The letters that Marfeo probably sent to police were unusual, very odd. Also Rob Page, he just couldnt keep his fake story straight. But he also knew without a body he would never get charged.
DarkDante 08-29-2006, 10:34 PM ^ He's also sweating non-stop like the pig that he is. I also believe Mark killed his wife for many of the same reasons kadrmas15 mentioned. I think at some point during the night Christy took a hard stance with Mark and told him she went to a lawyer earlier in the week and was going to persue a divorce.
I don't think it was a pre-meditated crime, I think Mark just flew into one of his rages perhaps fueled by alcohol or whatever and either killed her on purpose or just started beating her about and killed her in the process. Christy was sort of waifish to begin with and Mark from what I remember was a pretty big guy so a few severe blows from him could have possibly done christy in.
If it was a pre-meditated crime, Mark Nichols would have done a much better job establishing an alibi and just been a lot more prepared then he was in the hours and later days following his wife's disappearance. I'm positive he killed her and was either helped to to discard the body or buried her somewhere.
kadrmas15 08-30-2006, 02:46 PM Well if Mark would get arrested and charged I dont think he would be charged with 1st degree murder. Mainly because I dont think it was pre meditated either. 2nd degree murder I believe is where there is intent but not pre meditation. He maybe would only get what Greg Webb got and get manslaughter. Still that would be better than nothing. I was also researching Stephen Marfeo. As we all know he was a suspect pretty much from the beginning of the investigation into his wife's disapperance. Just the little things about how he didnt report his wife missing for over two days after her disapperance. About how on the day of March 29th, 1990 which was the day his wife disappeared he took an hour and a half lunch break instead of the usual 20 to 30 minute lunch break that he usually took. About how in June of 1990 the letters that got sent to the Johnston, Rhode Island Police were written about Marfeo in the 3rd person. They found out later they were typed on a typewriter in his mother's house. When they confronted him about the letters it was at that point Marfeo hired a lawyer and stopped cooperating in the investigation. Marfeo was a suspect until the end, the police actually had him under survilleance until his death. I read this little tidbit on the net, here it is in quotes. "On the evening of July 31, 1999 police received calls of possible shots fired in the area of 103 Homewood Avenue. When the police arrived they observed Salvatore Puleo, 53, sitting on a stone wall adjacent to his property, bleeding from facial wounds from a firearm and in shock. In a vehicle still running in his driveway was his female friend, Laura Vincent, 38, dead from several bullet wounds to her head. Ms. Vincent's ex-boyfriend, Steven Marfeo, 44, of Johnston became an immediate suspect. The next morning his car was located in a secluded area some three-and-one-half hours from North Providence. In it was Mr. Marfeo's body with what was determined to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head and a suicide note stating that he was responsible for the shooting of Mr. Puleo and Ms. Vincent due to jealousy and rage." Hmm, does this sound familiar like when he hired two private investigators to follow Doreen around because he thought she was having an affair? Doreen had supposedly quit her job not because she was suffering from emotional issues but because she wanted to work to save her and Stephen's marriage. Also in his suicide note which he had addressed to his mother, he wrote that he felt guilty about Doreen's disapperance and that he had crossed to the dark side and that he had lived 9 years longer than he should have.
wiseguy182 08-30-2006, 07:32 PM I found it weird that Stephen would confess to shooting his ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend, but wouldn't confess about Doreen. Why not confess about Doreen also, especially when he was about to kill himself. Weird. I also found it weird that he would hire a private investigator(s) when there was absolutely no reason to. I believe that he thought Doreen was cheating on him, but she probably wasn't. When the segment said that in the first letter, the writer had stated that Doreen got promotions due to her sexual prowess as opposed to her skills, yet no one at the office had any idea about it, that kind of sealed the deal for me as far as Stephen being guilty. I figured he did it at that point. I've known a couple of guys that are like him in the sense that they always think they're women are cheating on them. They haven't committed murder, of course, but every man that comes in contact with their women, regardless of the situtation, they think they're hitting on them. It's extreme jealousy. I also believe Stephen wrote the letters, I can't see anyone else having a motive to, if Doreen wasn't having an affair.
I also think Mark Nichols selling the cars, moving out of the house and boxing up all of Christy' clothes is very suspcious. By doing that, it's almost as if he knows she isn't coming back. Yet how would he know, unless he murdered her and knew she wasn't coming back. I think Rob Page did something similar to this as well.
unsolved88 10-28-2006, 04:31 PM After watching the segment again, I think Mark seems intoxicated during the interview. What does everyone else think? I wouldn't be surprised if he was.
kadrmas15 10-29-2006, 04:03 AM Well he could have been drunk, Mark seemed to me he was one of these blue collar heavy drinker types. But like I said, I think Mark did it. I dont think he planned it out because as others have said here if he did plan it out he could have came up with an alabi and a better story. But I just view it as too much of a coincidence that Kristi would disappear just two days after visiting a divorce lawyer. I think Mark would probably get charged with 2nd degree murder and I am surprised they never did charge him. I honestly think they could have got a conviction even without a body. There was aggrevating factors there, the prior domestic abuse, and other circumstancial evidence that I think could have got a conviction. I also think had he been charged he probably would have pled guilty. I think if he was charged now they would probably sentence him on the lower end of 2nd degree murder. He would probably be sentenced from 15 to 35 years in prison. Heck they could probably even offer him a plea bargain, of pleading to manslaughter and he would probably do 5 to 15 years and be out. What does it for me is not just the stuff I already mentioned. Mark sold the family cars within weeks probably because he knew there blood evidence in one of them and wanted to get rid of it. He also moved out of the house the day after Christy's disapperance and boxed up her belongings because as wiseguy said, he was acting like she wasnt even coming back but if he had not murdered her how would he know that? Also the suitcase that was found near the rest stop about 30 miles west of Gothenburg. It looked like it had been planted there in a way to make it look like a struggle had taken place. Also Mark being able to tell not only the suitcase that was taken but also everything in inside the suitcase, I believe the detective assigned to the case said Mark listed all the items one by one. I could tell the detective thought he did it and probably wanted to arrest h im but knew the D.A. would not press charges for fear of Nichols being acquitted. But I can tell you if her body surfaced Nichols would most likely be arrested within hours. Does anyone know what happened with this guy? I read somewhere on here that he re-married a number of years ago. His and Christy's kids I beleive would now be 20 and 22 years old. From what I heard in the segment I know Christy would not leave to start a new life without her children. She was murdered, no doubt about it.
DJ_Foxx 05-31-2007, 04:04 PM Honestly when I first saw that episode, I thought he was kinda "special" or "slow". Please forgive me. But anyway, after watching it again, I think that he did plan it out, Christy's disappearance and murder. I think it's possible he knew about her meeting with the lawyer out of town because maybe he either had her followed or followed her himself. I think the night out was a way for Christy to let down her guard with him....getting her vulnerable enough to kill her elsewhere.
crystaldawn 05-31-2007, 08:39 PM Honestly when I first saw that episode, I thought he was kinda "special" or "slow". Please forgive me. But anyway, after watching it again, I think that he did plan it out, Christy's disappearance and murder. I think it's possible he knew about her meeting with the lawyer out of town because maybe he either had her followed or followed her himself. I think the night out was a way for Christy to let down her guard with him....getting her vulnerable enough to kill her elsewhere.
You know I got the same impression of Mark Nichols, that he was of low intelligence. I'm not sure if I agree that it was planned out though. I am suprised that as disgusted as Christi seemed to be with him and the whole marriage that she agreed to go out with him that night. I think they may have had a fight about something possibly on the way home (there wasn't any mention of anyone at the bar seeing them fight while they were there). Maybe in the argument Christi even mentioned she was filing for divorce and he snapped. As slow as Mark seemed to be on the segment I'm suprised that if he killed her (which I think he did) he put her body somewhere where it could not be found. I believe there was even blood found in his trunk but it was too small to test.
LooksLikeCRicci 06-01-2007, 02:34 AM I'm with y'all on this one: Mark seems to be pretty darn guilty of something...
I've made this joke before, but I've lived with a few boyfriends in my day, and while I recognize husbands and boyfriends are different, I would be willing to bet my bank account that if I went missing, my boyfriend/husband could NOT tell police what clothes I had taken with me. I'd be lucky if they could tell authorities what I was wearing on the date I went missing... ;)
kadrmas15 06-01-2007, 04:25 AM Well actually, I think it may be possible that Mark was intoxicated during the segment. Either he is slow mentally or he was drunk or under the influence of medications or something during that segment, he just seemed impaired.
Mark Nichols I also believe did in fact murder his wife although it does amaze me how in about an hour time frame, not even that, that he would have had to bury the body he could do so in a place where to this day, nearly 20 years later, it has not been found.
I do also agree with Crystaldawn in that while we both believe Mark Nichols did murder his wife, we also agree that he probably didnt plan it. I just think if he planned it things would have worked out differently than they did. I Think that they went out drinking that night, an argument started after they left the bar, Mark accidently killed Christy or at least didnt plan it out.
I do think even if charges were filed that a first degree murder conviction against Mark Nichols would be a long shot, I dont even know if an indictment would be possible on that. I would say at best they could get a 2nd degree murder conviction against Nichols which in Nebraska I believe carries 20 to 40 years in prison.
However I think with as much time as has passed on the case, they would probably let him plead down to manslaughter or he maybe would even get found guilty of that by a jury instead of the murder charge.
wiseguy182 06-01-2007, 06:44 AM I'm always shocked at the number of missing people that never turn up. Makes me wonder if every county in the union has some type of bottomless pit or something that we're not aware of.
3rd.eyesight 11-05-2009, 04:52 AM While watching this case tonight I had some interesting second sight type insights. I think that what happened is that Christy and Mark went out that night and that Christy was in unusually good spirits because she finally felt like she had some control back in her life. She had seen the lawyer two days before the dissapearance and had made report of some of the abuses she had endured. I think that Mark took her good mood as a form of acquiecence to their relationship and the "fooling around" at the bar made him feel like he still had the power. I have the impression that in the car, on the way to the convenience store Christy and Mark got into an argument because he wanted to have sex and she couldn't stand the thought of it and confessed that she was leaving him. In a fit of "passion" as it were, Mark struck Christy, and being intoxicated and not being able to control his strength or his anger, killed Christy while they were in the car. I think Mark panicked and put Christy in the trunk of the car and returned home where he paid the babysitter and then after she left, he took the next few hours to pack Christy's suitcase and formulate his plan. The next day, after dropping his children off at their grandmother's house, during the timeframe where he "took a couple of hours to drive around town looking for her" but no one saw him, he drove somewhere secluded (I see a quarry or somewhere he could submerge her body) and disposed of Christy. He then drove around and found a rest-stop where he discarded her suitcase and belongings.
I hope that this case is solved soon. These are just some psychic impressions I received while watching the case in 2009.
VikingsGal 11-06-2009, 01:54 PM I've made this joke before, but I've lived with a few boyfriends in my day, and while I recognize husbands and boyfriends are different, I would be willing to bet my bank account that if I went missing, my boyfriend/husband could NOT tell police what clothes I had taken with me. I'd be lucky if they could tell authorities what I was wearing on the date I went missing... I agree with you on the fact that is was suspicious that he knew the entire contents of her suitcase. I have been married a while and no offense to my hubby but there is no way he would know what was in my suitcase. He know about my contact lens stuff cause I can't travel without that stuff but that's about it.
But if it WAS an accident why didn't he just report it as an accident?
synthisislab 11-08-2009, 05:02 PM I agree with everyone here in that I think Mark is guilty, and that he's one of the biggest creeps ever profiled on UM.
Here, in no particular order, are the top 5 guiltiest persons on UM that have never been charged, IMO.
1. Mark Nichols
2. Paul Pollis
3. Rob Page
4. Jules Caylor
5. Chad Noe (haven't actually seen this one yet, but I believe CD is putting on UM favorites vol 5, and from what I've read here on the boards, he seems very guilty.
I agreed with all of the above posts.
Anyone want to expand this and make it a top 10?
I can.
6. Steve Marfeo
7. Steve Page
8. Mike Morris
9. Leonard Rizzo
10. Don Sherman
synthisislab 11-08-2009, 06:58 PM While watching this case tonight I had some interesting second sight type insights. I think that what happened is that Christy and Mark went out that night and that Christy was in unusually good spirits because she finally felt like she had some control back in her life. She had seen the lawyer two days before the dissapearance and had made report of some of the abuses she had endured. I think that Mark took her good mood as a form of acquiecence to their relationship and the "fooling around" at the bar made him feel like he still had the power. I have the impression that in the car, on the way to the convenience store Christy and Mark got into an argument because he wanted to have sex and she couldn't stand the thought of it and confessed that she was leaving him. In a fit of "passion" as it were, Mark struck Christy, and being intoxicated and not being able to control his strength or his anger, killed Christy while they were in the car. I think Mark panicked and put Christy in the trunk of the car and returned home where he paid the babysitter and then after she left, he took the next few hours to pack Christy's suitcase and formulate his plan. The next day, after dropping his children off at their grandmother's house, during the timeframe where he "took a couple of hours to drive around town looking for her" but no one saw him, he drove somewhere secluded (I see a quarry or somewhere he could submerge her body) and disposed of Christy. He then drove around and found a rest-stop where he discarded her suitcase and belongings.
I hope that this case is solved soon. These are just some psychic impressions I received while watching the case in 2009.
I think that is exactly how it happened. The only thing I'm not sure on is whether or not he kept her body in the trunk of the car to then dispose of it the next day or if he stashed her body in an isolated area that night temporarily so he could return the next day and bury her in a more permanent location after dropping off the kids. I just think the one hour window is pretty thin to kill her, think of a location to take her, then bury her that night.
kadrmas15 11-08-2009, 08:26 PM I would say the top 10 on my personal crap list are the following in no particular order but cases where the suspected REEKED of guilt. Mark Nichols, Jule Caylor, Steve Page, Jim Harrison, Michael Haim, Rob Page, Chad Noe, Paul Pollis, Mike Morris and Stephen Marfeo.
In terms of the updates on this cast of characters. Mark Nichols ended up leaving Gothenburg, he moved to North Platte, Nebraska and eventually moved back to his home state of Arkansas. He re-married and divorced once and is now re-married to his 3rd wife. His children have not seen Christy's family in roughly 20 years.
Jule Caylor, eventually re-married and retired from the Forest Service a few years ago. He still lives in Salt Lake City and I believe still owns the home in Concord, California although he rents it out. Jule Caylor is now in his early 70's.
Steve Page, while he was never charged criminally in the case, his estranged wife's family eventually filed a wrongful death civil suit against him. The first two trials ended in hung jury's. In the third trial he was found responsible for his estranged wife's death and was ordered to pay an unspecified amount.
Jim Harrison, I do not really have an update on what happened with him. He has never been charged in Susan Harrison's death and it is unclear if her sons filed a wrongful death civil suit against him? It is also unclear whether or not he remarried although he continued to have arrests after Susan's disappearance and death related to alcoholism, this includes several arrests for drunk driving, public intoxication, disorderly conduct and assault.
Michael Haim, while he has never been charged in his wife Bonnie's disappearance and presumed death other developments have occurred. A wrongful death civil suit was filed against him and he was found responsible for Bonnie's disappearance and presumed death. Michael Haim also eventually had his parental rights terminated, a termination he voluntarily agreed to.
Rob Page, also was never charged in his wife Pam's disappearance and presumed death. It is unclear if a civil suit was ever filed against him by Pam's family. Rob Page did however eventually have Pam declared legally dead and he did eventually re-marry.
Chad Noe, also was never charged in the disappearances of his ex-wife, his ex-wife's daughter and his ex-wife's sister in law. He has repeatedly confessed to his involvement in the crime but always claimed it was drunken rambling and that he did not mean what he was saying.
Paul Pollis was never charged in the disappearance of his wife Charlotte. However his daughter was kidnapped by his wife's mother a few years after Charlotte's disappearance and they remain on the run to this day. Pollis has been arrested multiple times since his wife's disappearance for various misdemeanor and felony charges and did one stretch in prison in Ohio. Paul Pollis eventually had Charlotte declared legally dead and Pollis eventually re-married. His wife was later convicted on a string of felony charges and is currently doing a 20 year stretch in state prison in Ohio.
Mike Morris in Texas was never charged in the death of his wife or the murder of the other Mary Morris. I do not have any other info on him.
Stephen Marfeo, as everyone knows was never charged in the disappearance and presumed death of his wife Doreen. In 1999, Marfeo in a drunken rage killed his ex-girlfriend who had recently broken up with him and attempted to kill her new boyfriend. Marfeo then fled the state of Rhode Island and drove into Connecticut where he wrote a suicide note and then killed himself.
synthisislab 11-09-2009, 02:50 AM Oh yeah, I forgot Michael Haim and that case happened in my hometown too.
And how could I forget Jim Harrison? "Susan, you're being bad again." What a fool.
What ever happened to Leonard Rizzo and Don Sherman?
VikingsGal 11-09-2009, 07:45 PM Chad Noe (haven't actually seen this one yet, but I believe CD is putting on UM favorites vol 5, and from what I've read here on the boards, he seems very guilty.Oh wow...I hope you see this one soon. Chad and his tiny twitchy eyes are just gross! Actually his whole family is kinda gross.
TheCars1986 11-12-2009, 11:31 AM Just Chad Noe's manuerisms to me show he was lying through his teeth the whole time. And I really did think Stephen Marfeo was innocent up until the update about him killing his ex-girlfriend.
synthisislab 11-12-2009, 04:14 PM Just Chad Noe's manuerisms to me show he was lying through his teeth the whole time.
"I might have bragged about it when I was drinking.. Yeah, yeah, I did it."
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/7280/original/20070902-Facepalm1.jpg
CuriousMind90 11-26-2010, 10:41 PM Is it just me or were the mid/late 80s to early/mid 90s like the era of mysterious, creepy disappearences?
It seems all of these odd cases happen from around 1985-1994 or thereabouts. It's kind of strange actually.
Figured with that thought I'd bump this one. Her husband seemed very guilty, or stoned or something. He seemed like a creep.
carebears 11-27-2010, 12:01 AM A lot of people think that Chad Noe is guilty of killing Wendy but I think his mother and grandmother were involved in the killing or planning to kill and dispose of Wendy's body plan.
cocytus 11-27-2010, 12:06 AM Is it just me or were the mid/late 80s to early/mid 90s like the era of mysterious, creepy disappearences?
It seems all of these odd cases happen from around 1985-1994 or thereabouts. It's kind of strange actually.
Figured with that thought I'd bump this one. Her husband seemed very guilty, or stoned or something. He seemed like a creep.
Actually, it was an era where the police in general were not as well-trained as they are today. A number of departments hired and retained numerous people that should have never been police officers and as a result, many cases fell by the wayside.
As better crime detection techniques came into being (including DNA identification) it became more difficult for inexperienced killers and kidnappers to get away w/ crimes.
Also better training of police officers and higher standards being required made it harder for most criminals to get away w/ crimes due to police incompetence.
Sadly, most of the UM cases shown in the 80's and early 90's would probably not have been "mysteries" if they had occurred today.
Clockworkhigh 01-14-2011, 01:38 AM Mark Nichols in my opinion is guilty. The only problem is that all we have on him is circumstantial evidence.
- selling the two cars
- moving out of the house
- the babysitter thing
- the upcoming divorce
All of this stuff makes him look bad. To his credit I will say that I am surprised he reported her missing so early on. Most guilty husbands never did this. But still the thing with the babysitter confuses me. I guess we should take the story from the babysitter at face value, and if we do then it is highly unlikely that she wouldn't at the very least tell the babysitter "thank you" or something like that. The only thing that works in Mark's defense is that by all accounts Christy was shy and not a sociable person so for someone like that it would be normal to walk into the house without being seen.
Mark's plea at the end of the segment is gag-worthy too. He did some fishy things around the time of her disappearance. Dropping the kids off at the grandma's house unannounced would have given him some time to take care of some loose ends. Moving out of the house is weird too. That bothered me. The suitcase thing is bizarre as well. The only thing I can think of is that Mark actually packed Christi's belongings when he moved out of the house and might have had an idea which clothes she was missing. Or maybe Christi had very little clothes, Mark didn't seem like Mr. Romance either so I doubt she wore designer jeans. All I can say is that if I can paint an entire group with one brush it is men when it comes down to women's clothes. We don't pay attention to that stuff. We remember the sexy outfits and stuff, but a normal shirt here and there............nope I wouldn't be able to see it's missing out of a pile.
cocytus 01-14-2011, 08:34 AM As much as I think that Chad Noe "did it" I also blame the authorities in Oklahoma for not emphasizing the murder of the of the child involved in an effort to prosecute him. Chad Noe is hardly a genius. That he has managed to avoid prosecution after all of this time also indicates the intellectual deficiencies of the people charged w/ prosecuting him.
Clockworkhigh 01-14-2011, 04:39 PM As much as I think that Chad Noe "did it" I also blame the authorities in Oklahoma for not emphasizing the murder of the of the child involved in an effort to prosecute him. Chad Noe is hardly a genius. That he has managed to avoid prosecution after all of this time also indicates the intellectual deficiencies of the people charged w/ prosecuting him.
I doubt that. Oklahoma is in the middle of the Bible belt. The last thing they would do is hesitate stringing up a thug who killed a kid. In my mind, it is quite possible that Chad Noe had "knowledge" of what happened but wasn't actually physically there. Who knows. All I can say is that these people seemed to have made a pact to not care how much circumstantial evidence there was against them or care about public opinion. All they cared about was that there wasn't actual proof linking them to the deaths. So far it's worked and sadly it has been an air tight plan.
cocytus 01-17-2011, 09:59 AM I agree with everyone here in that I think Mark is guilty, and that he's one of the biggest creeps ever profiled on UM.
Here, in no particular order, are the top 5 guiltiest persons on UM that have never been charged, IMO.
1. Mark Nichols
2. Paul Pollis
3. Rob Page
4. Jules Caylor
5. Chad Noe (haven't actually seen this one yet, but I believe CD is putting on UM favorites vol 5, and from what I've read here on the boards, he seems very guilty.
I agreed with all of the above posts.
Anyone want to expand this and make it a top 10?
1. Mark Nichols - I agree that he seems to have killed his wife based on his lack of empathy for this situation and the fact that the evidence points in his direction.
2. Paul Pollis - Until somebody explains what Pollis did w/ his wife and how and where he did it, the jury is still out on this one.
3. Rob Page - Up in the air on this one. While the husband seems guilty and was certainly an idiot for changing and signing the letter, he also has been cleared as a suspect by the police.
4. Jules Caylor - I don't think that he's guilty. He seems to be very socially awkward (perhaps having Asperger's syndrome) but he never struck me as being a killer.
5. Chad Noe - Guiltiest SOB in UM history. That the police didn't emphasize the missing child in this case is one of the many reasons that this case was never solved.
TheCars1986 01-17-2011, 11:23 AM The fact that Mark Nichols accurately described Christy's missing clothes in the suitcase is enough to show that he packed it himself. If my wife left me ,I can honestly say I would not be able to tell you one article of clothing that was missing, let alone a whole suitcase full.
WishfulDreamer 09-08-2011, 06:35 PM Hey guys, I noticed something on Charley Project that was not in the UM segment. Blood was found in Mark's trunk and the house. Mark claims it was menstrual blood (tests determined it was not) but not enough of it was present to prove Christy was dead. So he's never been charged. This makes me feel even more strongly that he did it.
RobinW 09-09-2011, 12:14 AM Hey guys, I noticed something on Charley Project that was not in the UM segment. Blood was found in Mark's trunk and the house. Mark claims it was menstrual blood (tests determined it was not) but not enough of it was present to prove Christy was dead. So he's never been charged. This makes me feel even more strongly that he did it.
This is just further proof that Mark Nichols may be the luckiest SOB in the history of "Unsolved Mysteries". If he had committed this murder just a few years later when forensic science and DNA testing was more advanced, I'm sure they may have found enough evidence to charge him. Alas, since it was 1987, he was able to have just enough luck in his favour to get away with it. It really hit me just how long this idiot has gotten away with murder and been able to go on living his life when I read an article about the case from a few years ago that mentioned that Mark is now a grandfather!
TheCars1986 09-12-2011, 02:36 PM The blood found in his car makes it obvious to me what happened. It appears to me that Christi did in fact come back home with Mark that night, and the only reason the babysitter did not see Christi was probably because she was in a bad mood from fighting with Mark about their separation. I then think Mark's account of them arguing was correct but he failed to mention that it probably got physical and he killed her. Blood stains were found in their bedroom, BTW. I then think Mark took her body out to his car and kept it in the trunk overnight. Then he probably went back in and cleaned up the scene in the bedroom, got some sleep (how I'l never know). The next morning he dropped his kids off at a relatives home while he went to dispose of the body and clean up his car and/or tie up loose ends to cover up the crime. It seems like all this case needs is Christi's body to be found, and it's a slam dunk case IMO.
I wonder what the reason was for Mark's 2nd marriage ending in a divorce? He was probably beating her too.
LaurierCrimmajor 04-06-2012, 02:20 PM There's a pretty noticeable trend among UM husbands who are under alot of scrutiny involving their wives' disappearances and it nearly always happens to be that while there is a helluva lot of hinky circumstances surrounding the disappearances, the absence of a body plus the suggestion of abandonment places these cases at a standstill/stalemante.
With all the apparent circumstantial evidence in this one especially, you have to believe strongly that the DA here didn't want to take the gamble and spend the money to try without having more(significant emphasis if there was blood found in the trunk). From my studies, DA's hate losses on their records and the trend is to not try cases that will look poor on their resume(as is the case with surgeons, who do not take on risky patients so not to impact their mortality/morbidity record). The best bet in circumstantial, potentially "up-in-the-air cases going to trail" is to get a young, brash and pardon my language, ballzy DA looking to make a splash and reopen some of these cases with hopes of getting themselves attention. Cold cases aren't impossible to solve and the advent and evolution in forensic testing has aided greatly, however alot of the time, unfortunately animal predation and weathering will have taken its toll after this length of time.
There is a laundry list of names that have appeared on UM that IMO, if under a different DA would've probably at least attempted to take these cases to a grand jury for indictment on the circumstantial evidence alone. That said, it's a tremendous and costly gamble and one would have to weigh all the evidence heavily and really make sure there's enough to beyond a reasonable doubt. UM doesn't necessarily tell the whole story on these cases, but boyohboy would I love to read the casefiles on some of these....
TripleG 05-24-2012, 05:42 PM I am literally watching this segment again as I type this.
Yeeeeeeeeah, this guy did it. No doubt in my mind. He's guilty, and its a damn shame they don't have the proof.
Its amazing how many of these cases have such an obvious perp yet they are missing that one piece of evidence (usually a body) that keeps them from bringing them to justice. It is sickening.
zack007attack 05-24-2012, 06:35 PM I am literally watching this segment again as I type this.
Yeeeeeeeeah, this guy did it. No doubt in my mind. He's guilty, and its a damn shame they don't have the proof.
Its amazing how many of these cases have such an obvious perp yet they are missing that one piece of evidence (usually a body) that keeps them from bringing them to justice. It is sickening.
I can't believe the blood in Mark's house and car isn't enough. Remember the Carolyn Killaby case? She was murdered by Dennis Smith; the case was shown on UM and Forensic Files. They got a conviction based off a spot of blood the size of a pinprick found on a wristwatch in Smith's truck. Yet they didn't need her body to prove murder; she's never been found.
wiseguy182 06-18-2013, 02:45 AM I'm always shocked at the number of missing people that never turn up. Makes me wonder if every county in the union has some type of bottomless pit or something that we're not aware of.
Disappeared's facebook page just made a post about there being a lot of unidentified human remains in the U.S. (I think the number was 20,000). So it sounds like a lot of missing people are found, they're just not idenitifed. Charley Project updates do have a lot of "her remains were found in 1986, but not identified until March 2013" or something similar to that. I would hope that LE, etc would be familiar with the missing people in their area, so maybe a lot of perps travel some distance to dump the bodies. Then again, maybe they aren't famililar. That 911 operator in Cleveland had no idea who Amanda Berry was. :(
MegtheEgg86 06-18-2013, 03:06 AM Disappeared's facebook page just made a post about there being a lot of unidentified human remains in the U.S. (I think the number was 20,000). So it sounds like a lot of missing people are found, they're just not idenitifed. Charley Project updates do have a lot of "her remains were found in 1986, but not identified until March 2013" or something similar to that. I would hope that LE, etc would be familiar with the missing people in their area, so maybe a lot of perps travel some distance to dump the bodies. Then again, maybe they aren't famililar. That 911 operator in Cleveland had no idea who Amanda Berry was. :(
Yes. :( As far as Christi is concerned, I strongly believe she's no more than 30-50 miles from Gothenburg. I just hope she can be found someday.
annoulzz 07-03-2013, 07:15 PM i always felt that Mark committed the crime. He looks like a buffoon in his UM segment and you can SO tell he is lying. The fact that the blood found in his car was not of a menstrual cycle OBVIOUSLY means it has to be of her blood. The fact that he even stated it was his wife's blood, is like hello duh! did they use luminol to find the blood in the car?
DALLASTEXAN!! 05-01-2014, 12:10 AM i always felt that Mark committed the crime. He looks like a buffoon in his UM segment and you can SO tell he is lying. The fact that the blood found in his car was not of a menstrual cycle OBVIOUSLY means it has to be of her blood. The fact that he even stated it was his wife's blood, is like hello duh! did they use luminol to find the blood in the car?
I wish there were an update on this case.
Hambone2421 04-22-2015, 02:25 PM This is another one that I had not seen until recently. Mark Nichols definitely ranks up there with Chad Noe and Paul Pollis as the most obviously guilty husbands in the history of Unsolved Mysteries. Mark seemed like one of the more uneducated and flat out dumb people ever profiled on UM. Hard to believe someone like that has gotten away with this for almost 30 years.
Even though blood was found and no body, that does not preclude law enforcement from moving forward with an arrest, but, it does make it difficult at trial.
I wonder what their grown adult kids think about this case?
DALLASTEXAN!! 04-22-2015, 08:14 PM This is another one that I had not seen until recently. Mark Nichols definitely ranks up there with Chad Noe and Paul Pollis as the most obviously guilty husbands in the history of Unsolved Mysteries. Mark seemed like one of the more uneducated and flat out dumb people ever profiled on UM. Hard to believe someone like that has gotten away with this for almost 30 years.
Even though blood was found and no body, that does not preclude law enforcement from moving forward with an arrest, but, it does make it difficult at trial.
I wonder what their grown adult kids think about this case?
I wonder what his adult kids think when they see him say "I'm not a violent person"
Bottom line I feel terrible for the children.
On another note I can't believe its been a year already since this thread was bumped. I remember posting that like it was yesterday.
MegtheEgg86 04-22-2015, 10:41 PM I'm the same age as Christi's son and have even found him on social media, although I'd never dream in a million years of contacting him about his mother's disappearance, let alone about his father. I do wonder how Christi's absence was treated as he and his sister grew up, though.
Hambone2421 04-23-2015, 08:07 AM I'm the same age as Christi's son and have even found him on social media, although I'd never dream in a million years of contacting him about his mother's disappearance, let alone about his father. I do wonder how Christi's absence was treated as he and his sister grew up, though.
The children in this case, along with the Wendy Camp case, probably were told their mother abandoned them or something along those lines. Pretty sad, actually.
MissKitka731 08-21-2017, 11:42 PM Speaking of social media, check out what I found on Mark Nichols' (public) page...
http://i64.tinypic.com/2rpfcih.jpg
Takes tasteless to a WHOLE new level....
hostedbyrobertstack 08-22-2017, 10:57 AM Speaking of social media, check out what I found on Mark Nichols' (public) page...
http://i64.tinypic.com/2rpfcih.jpg
Takes tasteless to a WHOLE new level....
Yeah, wow...it's unfortunate that these people will not just admit or let the family know where the body is. Obviously he did it and it's amazing people can live with that every day.
LooksLikeCRicci 08-22-2017, 01:08 PM I want to punch that man in the groin. So hard.
Hot Jock 08-22-2017, 01:14 PM Speaking of social media, check out what I found on Mark Nichols' (public) page...
http://i64.tinypic.com/2rpfcih.jpg
Takes tasteless to a WHOLE new level....
Public you say? I've searched high and low and cannot find his profile. If you (or anybody else) could PM me a direct link to his page I would greatly appreciate it ever so much.
LooksLikeCRicci 08-22-2017, 01:18 PM Public you say? I've searched high and low and cannot find his profile. If you (or anybody else) could PM me a direct link to his page I would greatly appreciate it ever so much.
Oh, if you troll him, please let me know:
http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/ibnhome/trolling.gif
Hot Jock 08-22-2017, 01:25 PM Public you say? I've searched high and low and cannot find his profile. If you (or anybody else) could PM me a direct link to his page I would greatly appreciate it ever so much.
Disregard this. I found his sorry ass.
DazzlerSparkler 08-27-2017, 02:17 AM Not defending this trash, but it looks like he shared it from another woman post in it. Also do we even know the context?
That bein said its time for the urn with you Mark
LilMissKryssy 08-28-2017, 11:54 AM I've always wondered why procescutors don't just charge Mark with her murder. It's been 30 years. The odds of her body surfacing without Mark confessing is highly unlikely. The circumstancial evidence is pretty convincing...history of domestic violence with hospital reports, friends/family, lawyer etc. Also, he was the last one to see her alive (just so happens after she met with a lawyer), babysitter never saw her enter the home, blood in the bedroom/car which turns out to be hers, he NEVER asked her grandmother if she had seen/heard from kristi even though he went looking for her? Point is, the circumstantial evidence is very convincing. Also, 30 years later? She's dead. That's all the proof I'd need she's dead. A devoted mother who just decided never to see her children again?
LilMissKryssy 08-28-2017, 12:02 PM Instead of that meme, he should've reposted a law office by the name of "Killher, Buryher and Lye."
LooksLikeCRicci 08-28-2017, 12:47 PM Instead of that meme, he should've reposted a law office by the name of "Killher, Buryher and Lye."
HA! Love it.
Huskerz85 10-31-2017, 01:45 PM Speaking of social media, check out what I found on Mark Nichols' (public) page...
http://i64.tinypic.com/2rpfcih.jpg
Takes tasteless to a WHOLE new level....
Fits in well with this analysis of the case
https://crimeshop.org/2015/11/11/did-her-husband-really-get-away-murder-or-can-this-case-still-be-solved/
Axl Rose 11-01-2017, 02:13 AM Speaking of social media, check out what I found on Mark Nichols' (public) page...
http://i64.tinypic.com/2rpfcih.jpg
Takes tasteless to a WHOLE new level....
LMAO
Drakken 11-01-2017, 04:30 PM I've always wondered why procescutors don't just charge Mark with her murder. It's been 30 years. The odds of her body surfacing without Mark confessing is highly unlikely. The circumstancial evidence is pretty convincing...history of domestic violence with hospital reports, friends/family, lawyer etc. Also, he was the last one to see her alive (just so happens after she met with a lawyer), babysitter never saw her enter the home, blood in the bedroom/car which turns out to be hers, he NEVER asked her grandmother if she had seen/heard from kristi even though he went looking for her? Point is, the circumstantial evidence is very convincing. Also, 30 years later? She's dead. That's all the proof I'd need she's dead. A devoted mother who just decided never to see her children again?
99.9% sure it is because they do not have enough evidence on Mark to secure even an indictment in front of a Grand Jury, let alone a guilty verdict.
Remember, prosecutors must prove there was a crime and that Mark (and no one else) did it. Beyond a reasonable doubt means that the evidence must corroborate no other story but the one presented by the prosecutor. Otherwise, there is still a reasonable doubt.
All Mark has to do, is to argue that she has abandoned her husband and her family for 30 years, without giving any trace of her whereabouts. What does the prosecution have to counter this? Not a lot, and it is the prosecution who has the burden of proof. There are too many grey areas that Mark can weasel his way out of if cornered, and there is no real evidence beyond reasonable doubt (except the blood evidence) that a crime might even have been committed under corpus delecti. Her body is not needed, however serious material proof that she was killed is needed.
Huskerz85 11-02-2017, 08:25 AM 99.9% sure it is because they do not have enough evidence on Mark to secure even an indictment in front of a Grand Jury, let alone a guilty verdict.
Remember, prosecutors must prove there was a crime and that Mark (and no one else) did it. Beyond a reasonable doubt means that the evidence must corroborate no other story but the one presented by the prosecutor. Otherwise, there is still a reasonable doubt.
All Mark has to do, is to argue that she has abandoned her husband and her family for 30 years, without giving any trace of her whereabouts. What does the prosecution have to counter this? Not a lot, and it is the prosecution who has the burden of proof. There are too many grey areas that Mark can weasel his way out of if cornered, and there is no real evidence beyond reasonable doubt (except the blood evidence) that a crime might even have been committed under corpus delecti. Her body is not needed, however serious material proof that she was killed is needed.
I'm surprised I didn't think of this until now, but this bears some similarities to another case that happened here in 2006
http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_O%27Grady
(only difference between the two being, the sheriff found a large amt. of the victim's blood on the likely murder weapon - no weapon was ever found relating back to Nichols)
Going back to this case, I doubt any more that you'll find any material evidence. My bet is the only way this will be solved is if some farmer or hunter unearths bones somewhere....
RedBasket 11-05-2017, 12:09 AM Just watched the full version on Prime today. Mark is such a dim bulb and comes off as heartless. "People think I am violent person...." Ugh - just shut up and come up with a better lie. The whole suitcase thing still makes me laugh - what husband can tell what a woman packs down to such detail? Not many and my hubby knows me like the back of his hand. He could probably say a few things that would be be in my suitcase but not that much......
drew790 11-05-2017, 09:34 AM Yeeeeeah, I have no doubts on this one. Surprises me looking at the FB that he seems to still have all the family support. No one's like "you killed my mom?"
schmave 03-08-2018, 07:50 PM The reason I don't think he did it is the exact phrase a few posts above. Mark Nichols is a "dim bulb" - he always struck me that way - and I don't think he's smart enough to have pulled this off as well as the killer apparently did. She hasn't been found in over 30 years?
I always thought there was a chance she did run off. The segment referred to some emotional issues on Christy's part, and those are usually brushed aside in these threads if in fact they existed.
Huskerz85 03-12-2018, 01:54 PM The reason I don't think he did it is the exact phrase a few posts above. Mark Nichols is a "dim bulb" - he always struck me that way - and I don't think he's smart enough to have pulled this off as well as the killer apparently did. She hasn't been found in over 30 years?
I always thought there was a chance she did run off. The segment referred to some emotional issues on Christy's part, and those are usually brushed aside in these threads if in fact they existed.
This guy may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed, sure. Boxing up all of her clothes and selling both their vehicles the same day though? Yeah, he definitely did it (though I feel it was done w/little to no planning on his part).
This link (https://crimeshop.org/2015/11/11/did-her-husband-really-get-away-murder-or-can-this-case-still-be-solved/) goes into more detail.
dynoguy88 03-12-2018, 02:36 PM The reason I don't think he did it is the exact phrase a few posts above. Mark Nichols is a "dim bulb" - he always struck me that way - and I don't think he's smart enough to have pulled this off as well as the killer apparently did.
I find myself struggling with that sometimes too. Observing Mark's interview, he came across as probably one of the dumbest (to put it lightly) interviewees ever featured on the show. But there is literally nobody else with a motive to do away with his wife...other than a random evil stranger that just happened upon her at a convenient moment.
It's hard to accept but just because you're an idiot doesn't mean it's impossible to get away with something like this. Look at Richard Bockledge and Randall Utterback. Neither of them have ever struck me as being smart enough to get away with what they did but they have never been caught.
schmave 03-12-2018, 03:05 PM At the very least, there is some room for doubt although not a lot. He's definitely the most likely suspect. The suitcase thing is pretty damning; even if I pack a suitcase myself for myself, I would struggle to precisely detail all its contents if I'm asked on the fly.
I think even if Christi's remains were to be found today, a conviction is not 100 percent assured. Too much time has passed and while there's a lot of circumstantial evidence, not sure enough or any physical evidence would remain at this point to cinch his guilt.
asmitty 03-13-2018, 01:49 PM The biggest advantage for our "dim bulb" Mark Nichols on this case is that we have very little accounting of Mark's movements immediately after Christi went missing. We know from the babysitter that she didn't see Christi come in the night they went out together. And we know Mark dropped off the kids and spent several hours alone the next day. Even for someone who isn't all that bright, he had plenty of time to dispose of her body and take care of things. You don't have to be a genius to dump evidence when you have time on your side.
Also, that 'aw shucks', dim bulb air he gave off could have been an act as well. We're judging him based on a short snippet of TV interview.
soilentgreen 03-13-2018, 03:16 PM He might have came across as a "dim bulb", but dimwits who are abusers kill their spouses all the time. This is one of the UM cases that I'm surprised never went to a grand jury. Her blood was found in the trunk of Mark's car and she had no reason to suddenly run off and abandon her kids, since she was planning on leaving him and gaining custody. He didn't have to be smart, he was just lucky that Christi's remains have never been located and never had charges filed against him.
hostedbyrobertstack 03-13-2018, 04:08 PM To me, this case has never been about whether he did it or didn't do it, it's obvious to me that he did it. The real point of this case to me is where is she and where did he dispose of her body. I did quite a bit of streetviewing in that area and it is a small town with a lot of farmland surrounding, so there are so many possibilities. Hopefully, someday she will be located.
asmitty 03-15-2018, 11:00 AM He might have came across as a "dim bulb", but dimwits who are abusers kill their spouses all the time. This is one of the UM cases that I'm surprised never went to a grand jury. Her blood was found in the trunk of Mark's car and she had no reason to suddenly run off and abandon her kids, since she was planning on leaving him and gaining custody. He didn't have to be smart, he was just lucky that Christi's remains have never been located and never had charges filed against him.
Did the segment mention how much blood was in the trunk of his car. A small amount, while damning, isn't conclusive in court.
asmitty 03-15-2018, 02:49 PM To me, this case has never been about whether he did it or didn't do it, it's obvious to me that he did it. The real point of this case to me is where is she and where did he dispose of her body. I did quite a bit of streetviewing in that area and it is a small town with a lot of farmland surrounding, so there are so many possibilities. Hopefully, someday she will be located.
I personally think that it's highly possible he burned her body somewhere out in the rural areas around Gothenburg. People burn stuff all the time in rural areas, so he could have done it without much fear anyone would report it or catch him in the act. Once the act was done, a little time would make it very hard to identify what was left as human remains.
It's also possible he buried her. Someone digging a hole, again, is not an uncommon site in rural areas. If he was careful, he wouldn't have drawn any attention doing that either. The only concern in burying the remains is location. If the location of her burial was ever developed and/or used for agriculture in the future, she would most likely be found.
cppeace 08-24-2018, 08:11 PM It was only a few drops found in trunk of car and in bedroom. Not enough to really show a major incident.
JC1957 08-25-2018, 10:57 AM No doubt in my mind, Mark killed her.
What baffles me is why any woman would marry an idiot like that in the first place.
RedBasket 08-25-2018, 12:04 PM No doubt in my mind, Mark killed her.
What baffles me is why any woman would marry an idiot like that in the first place.
Yeah, Mark does not exactly come off as the brightest bulb out there. He is a 25 watt guy in a 200 watt world, that is for sure!
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-25-2018, 03:16 PM Yeah, Mark does not exactly come off as the brightest bulb out there. He is a 25 watt guy in a 200 watt world, that is for sure!
I really hate those 25 watt bulbs!
crystaldawn 08-25-2019, 11:58 AM My latest article is about her disappearance.
https://lostnfoundblogs.com/f/christi-nichols-marked-for-murder
jbjr56 08-26-2019, 02:57 AM My latest article is about her disappearance.
https://lostnfoundblogs.com/f/christi-nichols-marked-for-murder
Great insight and information as usual with your blogs, Crystal Dawn. Did anyone ever talk to the grown up children about their mother?
It just seemed like she had no where to turn with the stacked against her without the real possibility of losing her kids.
As big as doofus as this a&* is he had the connections and the ability to cover his tracks and too clam up.
crystaldawn 08-28-2019, 04:49 PM Great insight and information as usual with your blogs, Crystal Dawn. Did anyone ever talk to the grown up children about their mother?
It just seemed like she had no where to turn with the stacked against her without the real possibility of losing her kids.
As big as doofus as this a&* is he had the connections and the ability to cover his tracks and too clam up.
Thank you! I've spoken to her daughter a little bit over the internet. A very sweet person but doesn't really want to get involved or speak out but she did appreciate me writing about her mother. I didn't reach out to her son.
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