found out tonight that the Dish Network is getting rid of these channels

BET
MTV
VH1
Comedy Central
CBS


The only good news for Dish Network subscribers is that N@N is being REMOVED TOO

Yeah, they're getting rid of all the Viacom-owned networks.

Oh yeah. Today I was watching MadTV and a scroll kept coming on the bottom of the screen saying that. Whatever... it doesn't apply to me.

Originally posted by AKA
Yeah, they're getting rid of all the Viacom-owned networks.

Do you know why?

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Do you know why?

I know EchoStar (the company that owns Dish) and Viacom are in some sort of dispute over compensation.

CBS???

That's a major network! Holy moly!

(Oh, and no I don't have Dish.)

OMG!!! This is UNBELIEVABLE! I especially can't believe CBS is leaving! How are people going to watch their programming?

A few months back, a Birmingham, AL TV station, owned by Echostar was taken off the air for a few days from Dish over a dispute.

Originally posted by MaydayMalonesGirl
Oh yeah. Today I was watching MadTV and a scroll kept coming on the bottom of the screen saying that. Whatever... it doesn't apply to me.

Same, only I was watching Grease :D

Originally posted by Brent88
OMG!!! This is UNBELIEVABLE! I especially can't believe CBS is leaving! How are people going to watch their programming?

A few months back, a Birmingham, AL TV station, owned by Echostar was taken off the air for a few days from Dish over a dispute.



I predict lots of subscribers will cancel their service

I would think so. This is a load of crap!

What about TV Land? Isn't it owned by Viacom too?

Originally posted by Brent88
I would think so. This is a load of crap!

What about TV Land? Isn't it owned by Viacom too?


Yes TV LAND will be removed too

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Yes TV LAND will be removed too

Not a big loss, IMO, neither is N@N

CBS???!!!! I still can't get over this. :eek:

From www.dishnetwork.com

Stations owned by Viacom have proposed excessive rate increases we feel are unreasonable. We always strive to control costs on behalf of our customers. We continue to work tirelessly to negotiate with Viacom so you do not lose your channels.

Dish Network's site doesn't list CBS or TV Land as channels that may be leaving.

BET - Comedy Central - MTV - MTV2
Nick Games & Sports
Nickelodeon/Nick at Night (East and West)
NOGGIN - VH1 - VH1 Classic

That is ridiculous

Originally posted by Brian Damage
That is ridiculous



I would be doing back flips if Comcast remved N@N off my service-LOL

No you wouldn't Solomon. If you take off N@N, you take off TVLand and you might lose out on possible showings of That's My Mama. ;)

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I would be doing back flips if Comcast remved N@N off my service-LOL

Why is it that big of a deal that you get N@N? If you don't like it then don't watch it...

Originally posted by Mysty Eyes
CBS???

That's a major network! Holy moly!

(Oh, and no I don't have Dish.)

Me too. I don't even watch TV often enough to want to have a dish.

Hahaha. :D

Originally posted by Brian Damage
No you wouldn't Solomon. If you take off N@N, you take off TVLand and you might lose out on possible showings of That's My Mama. ;)


THat's My Mama is a TBS type of show

What does N@N air that you watch regularly? I watch it occasionally, but if it left the air tomorrow, unless you told me it did, I probably won't notice.

Originally posted by Brent88
What does N@N air that you watch regularly? I watch it occasionally, but if it left the air tomorrow, unless you told me it did, I probably won't notice.


N@N took all my shows off,

Jeffersons
All in the Family
Three's Company


So no need for me to watch it

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
N@N took all my shows off,

Jeffersons
All in the Family
Three's Company


So no need for me to watch it What!!! When did N@N take Three's Company off; that is the only reason why I even watched that network...

Originally posted by Mrs. R.N.HARRIS
What!!! When did N@N take Three's Company off; that is the only reason why I even watched that network...



THat old news. Where have you been?-LOL N@N took it off last week.

Well, that figures. TC is coming out on DVD anyway.

i think that roseanne and cosby are the shiz. i watch those shows every night when im going to bed.

So I'm paying for a dish and not getting channels cable subscribers get. Lovely. :cuss:

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Yes TV LAND will be removed too

Not according to Dish Network's website it's not.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
THat old news. Where have you been?-LOL N@N took it off last week. Well that sucks...I usually do not watch a lot of television because I work and spend more time on SO compared to watching TV...

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Not according to Dish Network's website it's not.

Of course it also says nothing about replacing those channels with anything...

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Of course it also says nothing about replacing those channels with anything...



I think you should just get digital cable and DROP THE DISH NETWORK, why should you continue to pay for service and all those channels are being taken away

Digital cable rocks here! We don't have it yet, but if Charter continues this :censored: crap, we are going to consider it.

They have been good lately though, maybe it's because I have been threatening to change services? ;)

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I think you should just get digital cable and DROP THE DISH NETWORK, why should you continue to pay for service and all those channels are being taken away

I'd switch to Direct TV first.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I'd switch to Direct TV first.

If I had a satellite, I would. I actually think(I am going to look into it) but I think DirecTV(and Dish) is much cheaper than digital cable and it offers more channels.

Originally posted by Brent88
If I had a satellite, I would. I actually think(I am going to look into it) but I think DirecTV(and Dish) is much cheaper than digital cable and it offers more channels.

I have DirectTV and ExpressVu (a Canadian Dish). I'm happy with the services offered by both satellite dishes. :)

Originally posted by Jenya
I have DirectTV and ExpressVu (a Canadian Dish). I'm happy with the services offered by both satellite dishes. :)



Good For you

I have basic extended cable which used to offer only 48 channels, which were your basic networks like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, USA, Lifetime, etc. But then a few months ago they extended it even further and added 20 extra channels, including Comedy Central and E! I was very happy about that but we were still planning on getting Dish Network and we've been thinking about it a lot lately, but thank god I found out how they are screwing people over by getting rid of so many good channels. I think I'll just stick with my regular cable. I have more than enough channels to satisfy me.

I'm just curious... how many channels does Dish Network offer?

Originally posted by Sourbabie
I have basic extended cable which used to offer only 48 channels, which were your basic networks like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, USA, Lifetime, etc. But then a few months ago they extended it even further and added 20 extra channels, including Comedy Central and E! I was very happy about that but we were still planning on getting Dish Network and we've been thinking about it a lot lately, but thank god I found out how they are screwing people over by getting rid of so many good channels. I think I'll just stick with my regular cable. I have more than enough channels to satisfy me.

I'm just curious... how many channels does Dish Network offer?



I'm not sure how many channels Dsh Network offers but i do know it'sthe GENERIC version of Satellite TV.

Dish Network has three basic programming packages. Top 60, Top 120, and Top 180. It's $29.99 for Top 60 with local channels, $39.99 for Top 120 with local channels, and $44.99 for Top 180 with local channels(subtract $5 for without local channels).

This shows which channels are on each package:

http://204.95.170.116/dishsite/images/CUST100ChannelCard.pdf

The channels with the black square are on Top 60, Green for Top 120, and Red for Top 180.

DirecTV has Total Choice with Local Channels, about 130 channels, for $39.99, without local is $36.99.

I'm glad I don't have Dish Network especially if they are taking TVLand away. TVLand is the main reason I got cable in the first place.

Originally posted by Brent88
Dish Network has three basic programming packages. Top 60, Top 120, and Top 180. It's $29.99 for Top 60 with local channels, $39.99 for Top 120 with local channels, and $44.99 for Top 180 with local channels(subtract $5 for without local channels).

This shows which channels are on each package:

http://204.95.170.116/dishsite/images/CUST100ChannelCard.pdf

The channels with the black square are on Top 60, Green for Top 120, and Red for Top 180.

DirecTV has Total Choice with Local Channels, about 130 channels, for $39.99, without local is $36.99.


Dish Network has to know they will lose LOTS OF MONEY by taking away all those channels

I agree. Look for a spike in DirecTV's subscribers. I have always heard DirecTV was better anyway.

Originally posted by Brent88
I agree. Look for a spike in DirecTV's subscribers. I have always heard DirecTV was better anyway.


Directv is better, but i couldn't get the signal so the Directv installation people could not hook me up. So my options were the Dish Network or Digital Cable and of course i went with Comcast Digital

Why couldn't you get a signal? Trees in the way? That's what I'm worried about if we ever decide to get one here.

Originally posted by Brent88
Why couldn't you get a signal? Trees in the way? That's what I'm worried about if we ever decide to get one here.


Because I live in downtown philadelphia and there were TALL buildings blocking my signal.

There are some friends of mine who had gotten the dish and wished that they had not due to not getting the main networks like ABC, CBS, & NBC and think dishes are rip-offs!!:mad:

Uh... they should be able to get ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX local stations, and if not, should be able to get them from places like Chicago, New York, L.A., and Denver. That's NONSENSE that they can't get them at all.

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
There are some friends of mine who had gotten the dish and wished that they had not due to not getting the main networks like ABC, CBS, & NBC and think dishes are rip-offs!!:mad:


Dish Network is a ripoff anyway because they do't have SPORTS PACKAGES-NBA LEAGUE PASS and NFL TICKET

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I'm not sure how many channels Dsh Network offers but i do know it'sthe GENERIC version of Satellite TV.

You don't know...you don't even have it. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Brent88
Dish Network has three basic programming packages. Top 60, Top 120, and Top 180. It's $29.99 for Top 60 with local channels, $39.99 for Top 120 with local channels, and $44.99 for Top 180 with local channels(subtract $5 for without local channels).

This shows which channels are on each package:

http://204.95.170.116/dishsite/images/CUST100ChannelCard.pdf

The channels with the black square are on Top 60, Green for Top 120, and Red for Top 180.

DirecTV has Total Choice with Local Channels, about 130 channels, for $39.99, without local is $36.99.

I was at Directv's site last night...and to get what I get on Dish for $70-something, I'd have to pay over $90. :eek:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
You don't know...you don't even have it. :rolleyes:


I had to decide between Dish and Digtal Cable because i couldn't get the signal for DirecTV and after i saw what Dish offers, i went with digital cable

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I had to decide between Dish and Digtal Cable because i couldn't get the signal for DirecTV and after i saw what Dish offers, i went with digital cable

But it's not bare bones satellite, like you say. They give us a lot of movie channels in our regular package, without having to pay extra for them, ala HBO.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
But it's not bare bones satellite, like you say. They give us a lot of movie channels in our regular package, without having to pay extra for them, ala HBO.


Just Curious, Why did you get Dish instead of DirecTV?

I think both Dish and DirecTV are very good. I think they are both about the same as far as programming and channels go. Now the premium services you may have a difference of opinion about, but as far as the general packages, they are basically the same.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Just Curious, Why did you get Dish instead of DirecTV?

It was cheaper. And they had a good sale going on at the time. I think it was like buy one receiver, get the second free.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
It was cheaper. And they had a good sale going on at the time. I think it was like buy one receiver, get the second free.


Buy one get one Free? Now you see why. Please call DirecTV tonight and get rid of Dish

Originally posted by Brent88
I think both Dish and DirecTV are very good. I think they are both about the same as far as programming and channels go. Now the premium services you may have a difference of opinion about, but as far as the general packages, they are basically the same.


THey are not the same because the Dish Network does not have SPORTS packages

DirecTV has got up to 3 rooms free right now and only $29.99 for Total Choice for the first 6 months. That's almost too good to be true. http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/index.dsp

:cool:

I have digital cable and I love it!! I would never switch to DirecTV or Dish network or anything. We get so many channels and only pay $50 a month(that's including the price of the cable box), and now we have Digital Video Recorders which are a god send, no need for video tapes and VCRs!!!!

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
THey are not the same because the Dish Network does not have SPORTS packages

Really? You'd think someone like Dish would have sports packages. Our digital cable does, we have so many sports packages and things like that. We get our Cable through Time Warner! I love it! :)

Originally posted by Topanga
Really? You'd think someone like Dish would have sports packages. Our digital cable does, we have so many sports packages and things like that. We get our Cable through Time Warner! I love it! :)


Time Warner doesn't have TV LAND. And I wish Digital Cable had the NFL TICKET

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Time Warner doesn't have TV LAND. And I wish Digital Cable had the NFL TICKET

Maybe TW doesn't have it in your area, but we get it. It probably depends on the area you live and the individual cable co.

Originally posted by Topanga
Really? You'd think someone like Dish would have sports packages. Our digital cable does, we have so many sports packages and things like that. We get our Cable through Time Warner! I love it! :)

We have the NBA and NHL packages.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
We have the NBA and NHL packages.


Now that I didn't know

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Yes TV LAND will be removed too
Egad! In that case I am very glad I didn't change to Dish Network when I was thinking about getting rid of cable.

I was really irritated last night to see them scrolling across the bottom of the screen on NICK "to save Nick on Dish Network call this number" or whatever it says. I think it's terrible they are removing it but I was taping Roseanne when it came on there so now I have THAT on my tape forever. :rolleyes:

I heard they are getting rid of:
MTV
Nickeolodeon
VH-1
TV Land

Sound of Taps playing!!

Originally posted by Nanny Fine
I was really irritated last night to see them scrolling across the bottom of the screen on NICK "to save Nick on Dish Network call this number" or whatever it says. I think it's terrible they are removing it but I was taping Roseanne when it came on there so now I have THAT on my tape forever. :rolleyes:


Nanny Fine you are a subscriber of dish network?

Thank goodness I am so, so, glad that I almost bought a dish but then my parents told me that they were rip-offs and if I bought one, I would be hating myself the next day and/or forever!!

Originally posted by Sterling Holobyte
Egad! In that case I am very glad I didn't change to Dish Network when I was thinking about getting rid of cable.


I thought losing TV LAND was a good thing.

Hey! I can't live without TV Land!!

how come the dish network website isn't saying CBS and TV Land are going?

Do I get to be the first Dish Subscriber to post here right after it went ^^^^-up? Yippee.

I'm assuming it happened at 12 AM, but I didn't notice until 3 AM. CBS and TV Land are still intact. I'm a ******--I didn't know it was happening TODAY! And what's even cooler--there is no cable in the ^^^^ING area we live in, yet we are about .1 mile from where there is cable. My parentals better get brains and switch to directv before I blow a gasket. It's better anyways. I don't care if the problem gets fixed. And Just when I started taping kickass videos on VH1C for me and my less fortunate friends! Now we're all less fortunate. GEEEEZ!

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Do I get to be the first Dish Subscriber to post here right after it went ^^^^-up? Yippee.

I'm assuming it happened at 12 AM, but I didn't notice until 3 AM. CBS and TV Land are still intact. I'm a ******--I didn't know it was happening TODAY! And what's even cooler--there is no cable in the ^^^^ING area we live in, yet we are about .1 mile from where there is cable. My parentals better get brains and switch to directv before I blow a gasket. It's better anyways. I don't care if the problem gets fixed. And Just when I started taping kickass videos on VH1C for me and my less fortunate friends! Now we're all less fortunate. GEEEEZ!


NICE to see you back!!!

Man this pisses me off! Now I can't see Nickelodeon, Comedy Central or MTV. Bastards!

Dish subscribers will get a $1 a month credit! LOL!

No MTV, CBS on DISH

EchoStar service pulls local stations, Nickelodeon in continuing dispute about rates.
March 9, 2004: 6:35 AM EST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - EchoStar Communications Corp. pulled from service Tuesday 16 of Viacom's local CBS stations and 10 of its national channels after the companies failed to agree on contract terms and prices.

Viacom (VIA.B: Research, Estimates) said in a statement it was "dismayed and disappointed" by the action, which affected channels such as MTV and Nickelodeon, after a deadline expired early Tuesday.

Satellite company EchoStar (DISH: Research, Estimates) said it would like to transmit CBS programming on its DISH network again, but both parties stood their ground in the dispute.

The move, which analysts say affects 1.6 million EchoStar viewers in major cities such as New York and Los Angeles, follows a lawsuit from EchoStar in January after a four-month deadlock over rates and conditions.

EchoStar said Viacom was illegally forcing its DISH Network to carry cable networks it does not want in order for it to retain the right to transmit CBS.

"DISH Network would always have a place for CBS, and we're willing to pay for retransmission rights," said EchoStar Chief Executive Charles Ergen, but he said Viacom was "holding the public airways hostage."

EchoStar said Viacom had also asked for rate increases of up to 40 percent over the length of its contract with the company.

Viacom urged EchoStar customers to switch to another distributor, and said the satellite company should be able to cope with a rate rise since it had already raised its own fees to end-users.

"They recently hiked their subscribers' bills by as much as $3 a month. Yet they are unwilling to consider paying an additional six cents a month per subscriber for the right to carry our channels," Viacom said in a statement.

EchoStar said it would provide a $1 monthly credit to customers who lose programming while the channels are unavailable.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
how come the dish network website isn't saying CBS and TV Land are going?

Sorry to be offtopic: but, CASHODEEN! I haven't seen you here in FOREVER! Remember me? I was PZelda. :D


As you were...

Originally posted by Princess2003
Man this pisses me off! Now I can't see Nickelodeon, Comedy Central or MTV. Bastards!

Yeah!! But why don't you all call, e-mail, and/or write to the Vaicom Network and Echo Communications and whine, scream, beg, and/or get down on your knees until they break down and concede!! That is just my suggestion!!:lol: :crazy:

Even though I don't use Dish Network, I am glad they pulled MTV. It's too raunchy and way out.

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
Yeah!! But why don't you all call, e-mail, and/or write to the Vaicom Network and Echo Communications and whine, scream, beg, and/or get down on your knees until they break down and concede!! That is just my suggestion!!:lol: :crazy:

Believe me I want to. My mom won't let me though. She is going to wait and see what happens, and if it's off for a few weeks, then she will do something about it.

I have Dish. Damn you, Viacom!

I hope this is just temporary!!!!! Those are some of my favorite channels. Especially Comedy Central because I like to watch South Park and the new season is starting soon. They can't remove those channels forever, can they? Dish will lose too many subscribers and if I have to, I'll go to DirecTV. I don't want to have to go through the trouble of getting another dish installed so they'd better get the damn channels back on!!!!!

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer

NICE to see you back!!!

Thanks!!!!!

Originally posted by Miss Vicki

Sorry to be offtopic: but, CASHODEEN! I haven't seen you here in FOREVER! Remember me? I was PZelda. :D


HI! Yes, of course I remember you! I'll have to swing over to the MF board real soon and see what all the neat new discussions are. I still watch it everyday!

I feel sorry for ya'll with Dish Network. I don't watch most of the channels they took off that much, but I know some people do. :censored: Viacom and Dish Network! :censored:

MY SUGGESTION TO EVERYONE WITH DISH NETWORK IS TO GET DIGITAL CABLE OR DIRECTV. No point in still paying for cable with Dish and they took all those channels away.

Here I was so jazzed at the thought of getting Directv... come to find out, they only offer a 3 Room package, while Dish offers 4. This house really couldn't adjust to having only 3 tvs. We already downsized from 5 to 4 when we got this dish in September.

I hate digital cable in this county. It is completely stupid. Although it is looking better than Dish in its new state. But alas, this road doesn't offer cable.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Here I was so jazzed at the thought of getting Directv... come to find out, they only offer a 3 Room package, while Dish offers 4. This house really couldn't adjust to having only 3 tvs. We already downsized from 5 to 4 when we got this dish in September.

I hate digital cable in this county. It is completely stupid. Although it is looking better than Dish in its new state. But alas, this road doesn't offer cable.


DIRECTV is better than any other cable service on this planet.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer

DIRECTV is better than any other cable service on this planet.

I meant Digital Cable looks better than Dish Network as of now.

originally posted by Cashodean

I meant Digital Cable looks better than Dish Network as of now.

That was actually an exaggeration anyways, because the channels that have been taken off of DISH, aren't even available on digital cable in this area--except for MTV. I wouldn't want digital cable again as long as I live here.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
That was actually an exaggeration anyways, because the channels that have been taken off of DISH, aren't even available on digital cable in this area--except for MTV. I wouldn't want digital cable again as long as I live here.


ARe you unable to get the DIRECTV signal in your area?

Uh... according to DirecTV's website, you can get a 4-room system. It's 4.99 for each reciever beyond the first though normally, but right now, they've got 3 rooms free for the first 6 months.

originally posted by Brent88

Uh... according to DirecTV's website, you can get a 4-room system. It's 4.99 for each reciever beyond the first though normally, but right now, they've got 3 rooms free for the first 6 months.


Hold the Press!! Really? Why couldn't I find that? I'm dumber than a stump. I'll have to go back there immediately.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
Hold the Press!! Really? Why couldn't I find that? I'm dumber than a stump. I'll have to go back there immediately.

http://www.rapidsatellite.com/programming.aspx

you can actually get a 5-room system. You can also figure out how much your monthly bill will be when it goes back to regular price.

and according to that site, 5 ROOMS FREE! WOW! AWESOME DEAL! :cool:

I am very glad that I have digital cable! I get about 200 channels (14 HBO's + 17 Showtimes for about $80 plus taxes) They gave me Movie Channel and FLIX + FOX Movies for FREE. In actuality I pay $80 for about a $100 package.

Time Warner has I-Control Favorites and movies that you can rent for 24 hours without a VCR, but have full VCR like functionality over them. For $5.00 more you can get the DVR, which gives you the ability to record up to 50 hours of programing without tapes or VCR's, get PIP on any TV, record/pause LIVE TV, create your own instant replays, and customize your own line-ups for later viewing. Satalite doesn't over that. You can by a TIVO with dish, but I have heard that the DVR is better because the recorder unit/cable box are all a part of the same unit. It's expensive, but you get the latest technology. With a dish, you are stuck with what you get, and can't upgrade when technology changes. When your warrenty expires with Dish, you will be charged for service calls. Cable gives you free service and support. The only time you may have to pay a truck-trip charge is when they don't find a problem with their equpment or if they have to come out to pick something up. (service disconnect) But, that's true with any company. As far as the cost increases go, that's just inflation. But I always liked cable better than dish.

Jack

Originally posted by Jack1000
I am very glad that I have digital cable! I get about 200 channels (14 HBO's + 17 Showtimes for about $80 plus taxes) They gave me Movie Channel and FLIX + FOX Movies for FREE. In actuality I pay $80 for about a $100 package.

Time Warner has I-Control Favorites and movies that you can rent for 24 hours without a VCR, but have full VCR like functionality over them. For $5.00 more you can get the DVR, which gives you the ability to record up to 50 hours of programing without tapes or VCR's, get PIP on any TV, record/pause LIVE TV, create your own instant replays, and customize your own line-ups for later viewing. Satalite doesn't over that. You can by a TIVO with dish, but I have heard that the DVR is better because the recorder unit/cable box are all a part of the same unit. It's expensive, but you get the latest technology. With a dish, you are stuck with what you get, and can't upgrade when technology changes. When your warrenty expires with Dish, you will be charged for service calls. Cable gives you free service and support. The only time you may have to pay a truck-trip charge is when they don't find a problem with their equpment or if they have to come out to pick something up. (service disconnect) But, that's true with any company. As far as the cost increases go, that's just inflation. But I always liked cable better than dish.

Jack


Digital Cable is ok but it can't compete with DIRECTV

Originally posted by Brent88
Dish subscribers will get a $1 a month credit! LOL!

No MTV, CBS on DISH

EchoStar service pulls local stations, Nickelodeon in continuing dispute about rates.
March 9, 2004: 6:35 AM EST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - EchoStar Communications Corp. pulled from service Tuesday 16 of Viacom's local CBS stations and 10 of its national channels after the companies failed to agree on contract terms and prices.

Viacom (VIA.B: Research, Estimates) said in a statement it was "dismayed and disappointed" by the action, which affected channels such as MTV and Nickelodeon, after a deadline expired early Tuesday.

Satellite company EchoStar (DISH: Research, Estimates) said it would like to transmit CBS programming on its DISH network again, but both parties stood their ground in the dispute.

The move, which analysts say affects 1.6 million EchoStar viewers in major cities such as New York and Los Angeles, follows a lawsuit from EchoStar in January after a four-month deadlock over rates and conditions.

EchoStar said Viacom was illegally forcing its DISH Network to carry cable networks it does not want in order for it to retain the right to transmit CBS.

"DISH Network would always have a place for CBS, and we're willing to pay for retransmission rights," said EchoStar Chief Executive Charles Ergen, but he said Viacom was "holding the public airways hostage."

EchoStar said Viacom had also asked for rate increases of up to 40 percent over the length of its contract with the company.

Viacom urged EchoStar customers to switch to another distributor, and said the satellite company should be able to cope with a rate rise since it had already raised its own fees to end-users.

"They recently hiked their subscribers' bills by as much as $3 a month. Yet they are unwilling to consider paying an additional six cents a month per subscriber for the right to carry our channels," Viacom said in a statement.

EchoStar said it would provide a $1 monthly credit to customers who lose programming while the channels are unavailable.

Just a buck? Oh well, as long as TV Land is still there.

And if you don't get CBS...buy some rabbit ears.

Originally posted by Jack1000
I am very glad that I have digital cable! I get about 200 channels (14 HBO's + 17 Showtimes for about $80 plus taxes) They gave me Movie Channel and FLIX + FOX Movies for FREE. In actuality I pay $80 for about a $100 package.


That's more that we pay.

We get about 200 some channels, 60 some music-only channels, all the Encore channels (except Encore East itself) with the package, west coast feeds of a lot of the channels we'd have to pay extra for (figure that one out!), HBOs and Cinemax (5). Plus KTLA, WWOR, WSBK, etc. All for like $75.

Dishes rule.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
MY SUGGESTION TO EVERYONE WITH DISH NETWORK IS TO GET DIGITAL CABLE OR DIRECTV. No point in still paying for cable with Dish and they took all those channels away.

I don't even really care that they took them off. So I'm staying.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Digital Cable is ok but it can't compete with DIRECTV

Digital cable is expensive. DirecTV and Dish both are much cheaper. It's $90 a month here for Digital. That's OUTRAGEOUS. We have regular cable for $30 a month.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
That's more that we pay.

We get about 200 some channels, 60 some music-only channels, all the Encore channels (except Encore East itself) with the package, west coast feeds of a lot of the channels we'd have to pay extra for (figure that one out!), HBOs and Cinemax (5). Plus KTLA, WWOR, WSBK, etc. All for like $75.

Dishes rule.


Not all dishes rule. Only Directv

Originally posted by Brent88
Digital cable is expensive. DirecTV and Dish both are much cheaper. It's $90 a month here for Digital. That's OUTRAGEOUS. We have regular cable for $30 a month.

Not really, I have digital cable with Time Warner, and we only pay $60 a month that's with the DVR box, and that's including the digital variety package which includes the Encore channels like Action, Mystery, Lovestories, etc.... We get Discovery Health, Discovery Wings, and other discovery channels, and lots of other channels, I have compared, we get alot of the same channels that DirecTV and Dish offers and our Digitial Varitey package is only $10.25 a month, plus the DVR box which is $5.00.

Also we can get HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and other movie packages for about $10 a month extra, which I have compared to most, and that's cheap.

So I love my digital cable, and would never change.

I glab that I don't have Dish network, cause I would cancelled it right away.

Glad that I don't have Dish Network either but the subscribers to them are already crying foul!!:mad:

I get dish network and I'm mad with this cause I loved to watch n@n even thought they took of FOL I'm still mad about that but I do like watching Cosby and I did like watching VH1 Classic that was my favorite music channel. But I do remember someone saying that TVland was going to be taken off, well all the channels have been off for like 3 days now and I still have TVland so is that going to be taken off later or what? If it is I hope they wait till after the tvland awards but even if they take off that channel I'll be pissed but thank goodness I still have lifetime if I couldn't watch the division then I would get rid of my dish all together.

From Dish's website:


DISH Network sincerely regrets that all MTV, BET, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and VH1 programming is currently unavailable. Viacom owned CBS stations are also unavailable at this time.

These channels and CBS stations, owned by Viacom, have proposed excessive rate increases which we feel are unreasonable. Viacom is demanding rate increases nearly 4 times the rate of inflation for various cable channels, amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars in fees that would increase the cost of our services to you.

Click Here for answers to Frequently Asked Questions.

DISH Network continually strives to control costs on behalf of our customers and we are working hard to get this matter resolved quickly. Tell us what you think by writing us at:
CEOofDishNetwork@Dishnetwork.com.


For MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon and other cable networks
Call 212-258-8000.
For Viacom Corporate
Call 212-258-6000.

For CBS Corporate
Call 212-975-4321 or email them at audsvcs@cbs.com
Tell CBS and Viacom to give your channels back to you. Click here to send an email today.

For your local CBS Station
Call the local CBS general manager at your station listed below:

City Affiliate Call
Letters Name Title Phone
Austin CBS KEYE Gary Schneider General Manager 512-835-0042
Baltimore CBS WJZ Jay Newman VP/General Manager 410-466-0013
Boston CBS WBZ Ed Goldman VP/General Manager 617-787-7000
Chicago CBS WBBM Joe Ahern President/GM 312-944-6000
Dallas-Ft. Worth CBS KTVT Steve Mauldin President/GM 214-750-1111
Denver CBS KCNC Walt Dehaven General Manager 303-861-4444
Detroit CBS WWJ Linda Danna VP/General Manager 248-350-5050
Greenbay-Appleton CBS WFRV Perry Kidder Station Manager 920-437-5411
Los Angeles CBS KCBS Don Corsini President/General Manager 323-460-3000
Miami CBS WFOR Michael A. Colleran VP/General Manager 305-591-4444
Minneapolis CBS WCCO Ed Piette VP/General Manager 612-339-4444
New York CBS WCBS Lew Leone President/General Manager 212-975-4321
Philadelphia CBS KYW Peter Dunn VP/General Manager 215-238-4700
Pittsburgh CBS KDKA Gary Cozen VP/General Manager 412-575-2200
Salt Lake City CBS KUTV Dave Phillips General Manager 801-973-3000
San Francisco CBS KPIX Ron Longinotti VP/General Manager 415-362-5550

Near deal between CBS and Echostar:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040310/ap_en_tv/echostar_viacom&e=3

Here it is also:

EchoStar, Viacom nearing deal, officials say
Dispute resulted in channels taken from satellite watchersThe Associated Press
Updated: 1:59 p.m. ET March 10, 2004WASHINGTON - DISH Network owner EchoStar and Viacom Inc. are nearing settlement of a dispute that took popular channels away from millions of satellite TV customers, officials with the companies said Wednesday.

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Martin D. Franks, executive vice president of Viacom-owned CBS Television, told lawmakers at a hearing that he expected a solution in a “very timely fashion.”

“I can give great assurance that we are making progress,” Franks said.

David Moskowitz, EchoStar’s senior vice president and general counsel, said after the hearing that he, too, was optimistic.

“I’m hopeful we’ll be able to reach an agreement and we’ll reach an agreement very soon,” he said.

EchoStar Communications Corp. pulled the plug on CBS programs in more than a dozen cities Tuesday and also dropped Viacom’s cable channels — including MTV, Nickelodeon and BET — from its satellite network. As many as 9 million customers in all 50 states were affected.

Members of the House telecommunications subcommittee said they hoped the dispute could be settled before the NCAA men’s college basketball tournament begins next week. CBS will broadcast the games.

“Let’s cut to the chase and see if we can’t come to an agreement, especially as March Madness begins,” said subcommittee chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich.

At issue is EchoStar’s contention that it is being required to carry several Viacom-owned cable channels in exchange for the right to also carry 18 CBS-owned stations in 16 markets.

EchoStar also said Viacom has sought rate increases up to 40 percent over the length of the contract, which would total potentially hundreds of millions of dollars. Viacom officials disputed that, saying EchoStar was fighting over what amounted to 6 cents more per customer per month.

© 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

There is a huge story in the USA Today on it and boy millions and millions of people are upset!!

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Here it is also:

EchoStar, Viacom nearing deal, officials say
Dispute resulted in channels taken from satellite watchersThe Associated Press
Updated: 1:59 p.m. ET March 10, 2004WASHINGTON - DISH Network owner EchoStar and Viacom Inc. are nearing settlement of a dispute that took popular channels away from millions of satellite TV customers, officials with the companies said Wednesday.

advertisement

Martin D. Franks, executive vice president of Viacom-owned CBS Television, told lawmakers at a hearing that he expected a solution in a “very timely fashion.”

“I can give great assurance that we are making progress,” Franks said.

David Moskowitz, EchoStar’s senior vice president and general counsel, said after the hearing that he, too, was optimistic.

“I’m hopeful we’ll be able to reach an agreement and we’ll reach an agreement very soon,” he said.

EchoStar Communications Corp. pulled the plug on CBS programs in more than a dozen cities Tuesday and also dropped Viacom’s cable channels — including MTV, Nickelodeon and BET — from its satellite network. As many as 9 million customers in all 50 states were affected.

Members of the House telecommunications subcommittee said they hoped the dispute could be settled before the NCAA men’s college basketball tournament begins next week. CBS will broadcast the games.

“Let’s cut to the chase and see if we can’t come to an agreement, especially as March Madness begins,” said subcommittee chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich.

At issue is EchoStar’s contention that it is being required to carry several Viacom-owned cable channels in exchange for the right to also carry 18 CBS-owned stations in 16 markets.

EchoStar also said Viacom has sought rate increases up to 40 percent over the length of the contract, which would total potentially hundreds of millions of dollars. Viacom officials disputed that, saying EchoStar was fighting over what amounted to 6 cents more per customer per month.

© 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


I know that makes you feel good

It does make all of those 31 million people feel great!! Not!!!:confused:

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
It does make all of those 31 million people feel great!! Not!!!:confused:

Why wouldn't it? We get our channels back sooner maybe.

Only about 9 million people have Dish. 12 million have DirecTV.

Originally posted by Brent88
Only about 9 million people have Dish. 12 million have DirecTV.

I'm truly STUNNED, i never knew Dish Network had that many subscribers

What are some other dishes besides Dish Network and Directv?

Originally posted by Cashodeen
What are some other dishes besides Dish Network and Directv?

Voom and Angel(something). I saw Voom ads three times today(perhaps taking advantage of Dish's loss of channels?) I have also seen an intense ad campaign by DirecTV lately. Never have heard of that Angel whatever satellite provider though, I just see it on the TV listings online.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
What are some other dishes besides Dish Network and Directv?


They are only the two

Originally posted by Brent88
Voom and Angel(something). I saw Voom ads three times today(perhaps taking advantage of Dish's loss of channels?) I have also seen an intense ad campaign by DirecTV lately. Never have heard of that Angel whatever satellite provider though, I just see it on the TV listings online.


Voom and Angel are probably $5.99 a month-LOL

Originally posted by Brent88
Voom and Angel(something). I saw Voom ads three times today(perhaps taking advantage of Dish's loss of channels?) I have also seen an intense ad campaign by DirecTV lately. Never have heard of that Angel whatever satellite provider though, I just see it on the TV listings online.

Those 2 are new to me.

Originally posted by Brent88
Only about 9 million people have Dish. 12 million have DirecTV.

Didn't Direct come first?

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Those 2 are new to me.

That's because are they are worth having-LOL

I know that this is off-topic but there is a guy I know that has not one, not two, not three, but six, count them six dishes for movies, sports, specials, you name it and he has over 5,000 of them with DVD's.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
That's because are they are worth having-LOL

You are so funny!-LOL

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
I know that this is off-topic but there is a guy I know that has not one, not two, not three, but six, count them six dishes for movies, sports, specials, you name it and he has over 5,000 of them with DVD's.

Holy crap...that's a few too many imo.

Yeah but it is true and the guy has to be pretty wealthy to afford that though.

That didn't last long. I see Comedy Central is back.

YAY! They must of reached an agreement!... I got all my Viacom channels back!

Originally posted by dawsongirl

That didn't last long. I see Comedy Central is back.

Oooh, happy dance.

:banana: :mango

As well as the others.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
As well as the others.


Yippee I got the Comedy Channel and TV Land Back:rolleyes:

Woohoo! The channels are back! :bouncers

AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACH BY DISH AND VIACOM. I know that's bad news because i know how much you wanted to get rid of N@N

Originally posted by Mrs. R.N.HARRIS
Yippee I got the Comedy Channel and TV Land Back:rolleyes:


Tara i didn;t know you had the dish network. Well i know you upset that you still have N@N-LOL

LOL! I'm so sorry you got N@N and TV Land back. :( :lol:

Well I'm happy. I've got my MTV and VH1 back. All is right with the world.

You guys can just delete your channels from the menu if you really hate that channel so much. When that happens, it's still there but your TV will skip over that channel...I did that with all the religion and sports channels here. :p :D

Dear Loyal DISH Network Customers,

I am very pleased to announce that we’ve successfully reached a long-term agreement with Viacom to provide you with CBS and MTV Network channels including MTV, Comedy Central, and Nickelodeon. I am happy to say that this agreement will allow us to continue to provide you the lowest all-digital price everyday.

I understand that it has been a difficult 36 hours to be without these popular channels. We appreciate your patience, your support for DISH Network and your continued business.

As promised, you will receive a $1 credit on your next billing statement. In addition, we would like to thank you for all of your support by sending you a free DISH On Demand Pay-Per-View coupon that will allow you to view upcoming hits like “Cat in the Hat” and “School of Rock.” The coupon will arrive in your April billing statement. Enjoy a movie on us.

Everyone at DISH Network will continue to fight to provide the best possible programming and services at the lowest possible price, every day.

Thank you for your loyalty and thank you for being a DISH Network customer.

From the CEO of Dish. :wave:

36 hours is better than 36 days especially those March madness fans and people with pay-per-view and those kids who love Nickelodeon.

Originally posted by Miss Vicki
You guys can just delete your channels from the menu if you really hate that channel so much. When that happens, it's still there but your TV will skip over that channel...I did that with all the religion and sports channels here. :p :D

I should use it for the 109756385735 shopping channels.
:barf:

Originally posted by Brent88
Dear Loyal DISH Network Customers,

I am very pleased to announce that we’ve successfully reached a long-term agreement with Viacom to provide you with CBS and MTV Network channels including MTV, Comedy Central, and Nickelodeon. I am happy to say that this agreement will allow us to continue to provide you the lowest all-digital price everyday.

I understand that it has been a difficult 36 hours to be without these popular channels. We appreciate your patience, your support for DISH Network and your continued business.

As promised, you will receive a $1 credit on your next billing statement. In addition, we would like to thank you for all of your support by sending you a free DISH On Demand Pay-Per-View coupon that will allow you to view upcoming hits like “Cat in the Hat” and “School of Rock.” The coupon will arrive in your April billing statement. Enjoy a movie on us.

Everyone at DISH Network will continue to fight to provide the best possible programming and services at the lowest possible price, every day.

Thank you for your loyalty and thank you for being a DISH Network customer.

From the CEO of Dish. :wave:

Cool. Free Movie.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I should use it for the 109756385735 shopping channels.
:barf:

There you go, problem solved. :D