USA Today reports that NBC no longer has a stranglehold on the Thursday Night Lineup - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TVFactFan · 09-30-2004, 02:32 PM

since NBC's Joey and Will and Grace was no match for CBS Survivor between 8pm and 9pm, The Apprentice was no competition for CBS CSI between 9pm and 10pm and for the first time in 10 years, ER did not win it's competition between 10pm and 11pm because of CBS Without a Trace. Looks like CBS will control this season's Thursday Night Lineup.

Dean Winchester · 09-30-2004, 03:35 PM

nothing lasts forever. CBS ruled Saturday nights in the 70's with shows like MASH, AITF, MTM and the sort, but yet in the 80's, NBC was who ruled Saturdays with Golden Girls, 227, Facts Of Life and Amen. NBC ruled Thursdays for 20 years now, it was bound to change.

Petrie Malone · 09-30-2004, 05:10 PM

NBC ruled the airwaves for the 80's and the 90's... now it looks like CBS is taking over again

tvfan0101 · 09-30-2004, 06:55 PM

On the one hand, it is far too early to be sure if NBC has lost its Must-See-TV Thursday line-up.

On the other hand, everything in TVShow Analyzer's post is true. It appears that CBS has taken over and I would not be surprised if it does turn out to be the case for the whole season. But, things can change. And who knows, next Thursday we may see things switched up again.

db108108 · 09-30-2004, 07:39 PM

CBS owned Thursdays last season as well, just not by as big a margin as this season, at least in viewers. The real change has occured in adults where "CSI" is trouncing "The Apprentice" (doubling it in viewers), "Survivor" is winning at 8pm in adults and by 6mil in viewers (it beat original episodes of "Friends" in adults just a hand ful of times). NBC's only strong hold is 10pm, where "ER" is still winning is adults (though only by about 30% now, as opposed to 70% last season), but is being beaten in adults.

I have to laugh at Trump's ego. He was only Ellen yesterday and said "You know, last week's Apprentice had the biggest ratings for the network since May." He didn't mention that they were down 20% in viewers and adults, nor that he only held that title for exactely one hour- until the 11th season premiere of "ER" at 10pm.

Honestly, I can't see anything stopping CBS on Thursday. NBC has no wild cards up its sleeves and alot of problems to worry about on other nights. CBS's shows are still in their prime (except maybe "Survivor"), while NBC's last stronghold on the night is "ER"- now in its 11th season and declining. "Joey" is not working out as well as NBC would have hoped, and "The Apprentice" lost alot of viewers.

James"Thunder"Early · 09-30-2004, 09:28 PM

To be blunt, none of the shows on the Thursday night lineup measure up the caliber of the 80s early 90s Thursday night lineup that included Cheers and The Cosby show. and satuday night is seen a wasteland of reality shows and is dead. so if NBC keeps putting this crap on Thursday night they will lose.

dawsongirl · 10-01-2004, 01:16 AM

Good! CBS' shows are of so much better quality.

snl75 · 10-01-2004, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by King Forrester
To be blunt, none of the shows on the Thursday night lineup measure up the caliber of the 80s early 90s Thursday night lineup that included Cheers and The Cosby show. and satuday night is seen a wasteland of reality shows and is dead. so if NBC keeps putting this crap on Thursday night they will lose.

you can say that again.

mstewart · 10-02-2004, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
nothing lasts forever. CBS ruled Saturday nights in the 70's with shows like MASH, AITF, MTM and the sort, but yet in the 80's, NBC was who ruled Saturdays with Golden Girls, 227, Facts Of Life and Amen. NBC ruled Thursdays for 20 years now, it was bound to change.

NBC had a good run of ruling Thursday nights for 20 years, especially in the 80s with Cosby, Family Ties, Cheers and Night Court. One would plan their life around that night. ABC ruled Fridays in the 70s with Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, Nanny and the Professor and Room 222.

For 23 years Lucy ruled Monday nights on CBS.

Dr. John Becker · 10-02-2004, 01:18 PM

It looks like ABC and Fox have just decieded to roll over and play dead on Thursdays. Fox shows a crazy videos show and ABC, not much better.

Brian Damage · 10-02-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Dr. John Becker
It looks like ABC and Fox have just decieded to roll over and play dead on Thursdays. Fox shows a crazy videos show and ABC, not much better.

FOX can't do anything yet because the baseball postseason is coming. After it ends, they'll air last summer's hit the OC on Thursdays.

Dean Winchester · 10-02-2004, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Brian Damage
FOX can't do anything yet because the baseball postseason is coming. After it ends, they'll air last summer's hit the OC on Thursdays.

why does Fox do that? why not air season premieres now and everything, and then go into a break come World Series, instead of jerking fans around until NOVEMBER for new episodes?

barwars · 10-02-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by mstewart
NBC had a good run of ruling Thursday nights for 20 years, especially in the 80s with Cosby, Family Ties, Cheers and Night Court. One would plan their life around that night. ABC ruled Fridays in the 70s with Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, Nanny and the Professor and Room 222.

For 23 years Lucy ruled Monday nights on CBS.

ABC Fridays were never actually ratings hits back then.
Although most of those are classics today.

TVFactFan · 10-02-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by barwars
ABC Fridays were never actually ratings hits back then.
Although most of those are classics today.

I doubt if lots of viewers were watching ABC at 8pm on Fridays between 1972 and 1977. Maybe between 1969 and 1971 there were lots of viewers tuned into ABC on Fridays at 8pm but definetly not after 1971.

snl75 · 10-02-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by mstewart
NBC had a good run of ruling Thursday nights for 20 years, especially in the 80s with Cosby, Family Ties, Cheers and Night Court. One would plan their life around that night. ABC ruled Fridays in the 70s with Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, Nanny and the Professor and Room 222.

For 23 years Lucy ruled Monday nights on CBS.

i love your nickname for jeff i know nothing about good programming zucker its one letter away from what most viewers think he is

09-30-2004, 02:32 PM	#1
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09-30-2004, 05:10 PM	#3
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09-30-2004, 03:35 PM	#2
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	nothing lasts forever. CBS ruled Saturday nights in the 70's with shows like MASH, AITF, MTM and the sort, but yet in the 80's, NBC was who ruled Saturdays with Golden Girls, 227, Facts Of Life and Amen. NBC ruled Thursdays for 20 years now, it was bound to change.

09-30-2004, 06:55 PM	#4
tvfan0101 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 961	On the one hand, it is far too early to be sure if NBC has lost its Must-See-TV Thursday line-up. On the other hand, everything in TVShow Analyzer's post is true. It appears that CBS has taken over and I would not be surprised if it does turn out to be the case for the whole season. But, things can change. And who knows, next Thursday we may see things switched up again.

09-30-2004, 07:39 PM	#5
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	CBS owned Thursdays last season as well, just not by as big a margin as this season, at least in viewers. The real change has occured in adults where "CSI" is trouncing "The Apprentice" (doubling it in viewers), "Survivor" is winning at 8pm in adults and by 6mil in viewers (it beat original episodes of "Friends" in adults just a hand ful of times). NBC's only strong hold is 10pm, where "ER" is still winning is adults (though only by about 30% now, as opposed to 70% last season), but is being beaten in adults. I have to laugh at Trump's ego. He was only Ellen yesterday and said "You know, last week's Apprentice had the biggest ratings for the network since May." He didn't mention that they were down 20% in viewers and adults, nor that he only held that title for exactely one hour- until the 11th season premiere of "ER" at 10pm. Honestly, I can't see anything stopping CBS on Thursday. NBC has no wild cards up its sleeves and alot of problems to worry about on other nights. CBS's shows are still in their prime (except maybe "Survivor"), while NBC's last stronghold on the night is "ER"- now in its 11th season and declining. "Joey" is not working out as well as NBC would have hoped, and "The Apprentice" lost alot of viewers.

09-30-2004, 09:28 PM	#6
James"Thunder"Early Whoever's In New England Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 7,087	To be blunt, none of the shows on the Thursday night lineup measure up the caliber of the 80s early 90s Thursday night lineup that included Cheers and The Cosby show. and satuday night is seen a wasteland of reality shows and is dead. so if NBC keeps putting this crap on Thursday night they will lose.

10-01-2004, 01:16 AM	#7
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,128	Good! CBS' shows are of so much better quality.