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TripperFan · 07-14-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleet

I demand a Halloween network.

Hey - those should be in the Halloween thread!!!

Besides, wouldn't MSNBC cover that?

Mikado · 07-14-2005, 07:20 PM

Hey Cathie and Buffy, cool to see my friends can out-argue anyone!

GoldenFamilyTies · 08-01-2005, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Read the bible and come to your own conclusions. I am not brainwashed, I have always felt homosexuality was wrong. As a "Christian" as you claim to be, do you attend church regularly? Do you read the bible? People will interpret the Bible however they feel is convienient for them. I worship God, not an imaginary friend. God is real. I do not hate gays nor do I feel threatened by them. God loves everyone. Whether you are gay, straight, Bi, whether you cheat on your wife, murder another, rape another. All of them. You just have to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour. I cannot condemn anyone to hell because I am not God. Gays are allowed in church and should go to church. This isn't a gay thing, it's something everyone should do. Some gays on this board get furious when someone disagrees with their lifestyle. Please distinguish tolerance for bias. I am tolerant of gays, but I don't agree with their lifestyle.

I'm a bit confused here... so you're saying that homosexuality is wrong because of the bible? Because, the bible also condemns a whole slew of other things that are considered 100% acceptable by Christianity. There is also now a Christian denomination (that has always been supportive of gays/lesbians) that will be performing gay marriages. You say that people will interpret the bible for however is "convenient" for them. Does that mean that we should all assume that you are interpreting the bible your own way just so you can condemn homosexuality? I may be mistaken, but the way I understood that comment.. you are implying that some people are interpreting the bible as to not be against homosexuality, so that what they are doing won't be considered a sin. Now, like I said, I may be mistaken.

I have had a Catholic education my whole life. I think that homosexuality is not a sin. I think that homosexual marriages should be performed in the church. A great deal of other younger Catholics/Christians have the same opinion as I do. We are both tolerant AND accepting of the lifestyle. Just because one is Christian and is accepting of homosexuality, doesn't mean they haven't read the bible, or don't go to church. We are just as Christian as you are.

ABlairican Pie · 08-01-2005, 08:29 AM

For everyone using Scripture to condemn homosexuality:

Deuteronomy 22:13-21: If it is discovered that the bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands she be executed by stoning immediately.

Deuteronomy 22:22: If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.

Mark10:1-10: Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.

Leviticus 18:19: The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.

Mark 12:18-27: If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by Biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

Deuteronomy 25 11-12: If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.

IT'S IN THE BIBLE, FOLKS!!!!!

ABlairican Pie · 08-01-2005, 08:38 AM

For those who accuse gays of being "Sodomites":

Ezekiel 16:48-49: This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in the eyes of God.

http://www.soulforce.org/whatthebiblesays.pdf

barwars · 08-01-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenFanatic

To me, those are not metal.

VH1 Classic may have some metal, but none of the others do. Hell, MTV barely has music, period.

GoldenFamilyTies · 08-01-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

For those who accuse gays of being "Sodomites":

Ezekiel 16:48-49: This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in the eyes of God.

http://www.soulforce.org/whatthebiblesays.pdf

Thank you for that link!

MsOrange · 08-01-2005, 01:58 PM

people need to understand the difference between the Old testament and the New one

Mikado · 08-01-2005, 03:32 PM

Im not sure how a gay network thread turned into " should gays marry" but, heres my take on THAT.... Because gay marriage isnt legal in some places, if one gay partner dies and the other has no legal status as spouse, the surviving partner can be found to have no rights to the properties accumulated by both of them during their time together. in other words the surviving partner can lose a house and all the possessions that were jointly owned if the dead partner's family claims them...is THAT fair? Gays have as much right to their partnership rights as anyone ( and no, im NOT gay , I just feel this is the right thing )

TripperFan · 08-05-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

For everyone using Scripture to condemn homosexuality:

Deuteronomy 22:13-21: If it is discovered that the bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands she be executed by stoning immediately.

Deuteronomy 22:22: If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.

Mark10:1-10: Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.

Leviticus 18:19: The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.

Mark 12:18-27: If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by Biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

Deuteronomy 25 11-12: If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.

IT'S IN THE BIBLE, FOLKS!!!!!

Funny I should come across this thread again tonight. I was scanning the local small town newspaper earlier today under Letters To The Editor. Some man wrote in citing the same stuff about Christian issues and how the Bible says it's wrong - but then couldn't believe his ignorance when he didn't cite certain passages - but referred to the 10 Commandments!!!!!!!
I don't know my Bible all that well, but I sure can't remember anything about Thou Shalt Not Marry Thy Same Sex anywhere in those ten. He shot himself in the foot trying that argument. If you're going to argue against it, at least know exactly WHY!!

Which, while we're at it - one of the commandments is "Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day." (albeit worded slightly different depending on the variation of the religion). So how do you legitimize the government ruling that stores can be open and people can work during that day. Seems to me like picking and choosing which commandment and/or Bible passage you like or dislike.

Munsters#1 · 08-05-2005, 01:06 AM

It would be so much easier on everyone, if everyone would just be an atheist.

You don't need faith in God to be a good person.

ABlairican Pie · 08-05-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Munsters#1

It would be so much easier on everyone, if everyone would just be an atheist.

You don't need faith in God to be a good person.

True, but some issues and questions about life are a little deeper than accepting atheism out of convenience.

GoldenFamilyTies · 08-05-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Munsters#1

It would be so much easier on everyone, if everyone would just be an atheist.

You don't need faith in God to be a good person.

Yes, you don't need faith in God to be a good person. But a lot of times, faith in God helps a lot of people to become better people, or to guide their life in a better direction. If everyone was an athiest just to be convenient, then the world, and life, would be a whoooooooole lot more different (in a bad way) than you think.

It's kind of a "be careful what you wish for" type deal I think...

Sooo... I believe you have a choice to believe in God or not, but I also believe that if everyone was an athiest, the world would be a lot different in a bad way.

ABlairican Pie · 08-05-2005, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenFamilyTies

Yes, you don't need faith in God to be a good person. But a lot of times, faith in God helps a lot of people to become better people, or to guide their life in a better direction. If everyone was an athiest just to be convenient, then the world, and life, would be a whoooooooole lot more different (in a bad way) than you think.

It's kind of a "be careful what you wish for" type deal I think...

Sooo... I believe you have a choice to believe in God or not, but I also believe that if everyone was an athiest, the world would be a lot different in a bad way.

I also think that when a person says they don't believe in God, then I'm thinking of what kind of God are they not believing in. If I said that I don't believe in a big giant guy in the sky with a silvery robe and a ZZ Top-style beard who goes around casting spells on "bad" people, then that would make me a "atheist".

Did you know that early Christians in ancient Rome were considered "atheists" for not believing that Caesar was a god?

themaninblack · 09-14-2005, 01:02 PM

GOD DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINS ANYBODY, INCLUDING HOMOSEXUALS.
Jesus offers salvation to all, gay or straight.
the Bible calls on us not to hate somebody because they are gay.
homosexuality is in the eyes of God the same as all other sins, because a person is a sinner if they have even committed one "itty bitty sin" like a "white lie".
God hates ALL sin the same!

08-01-2005, 08:29 AM	#124
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,621	For everyone using Scripture to condemn homosexuality: Deuteronomy 22:13-21: If it is discovered that the bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands she be executed by stoning immediately. Deuteronomy 22:22: If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death. Mark10:1-10: Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced. Leviticus 18:19: The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed. Mark 12:18-27: If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by Biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir. Deuteronomy 25 11-12: If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her. IT'S IN THE BIBLE, FOLKS!!!!!
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07-14-2005, 07:20 PM	#122
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,880	Hey Cathie and Buffy, cool to see my friends can out-argue anyone!

08-01-2005, 08:38 AM	#125
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,621	For those who accuse gays of being "Sodomites": Ezekiel 16:48-49: This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in the eyes of God. http://www.soulforce.org/whatthebiblesays.pdf

08-01-2005, 01:58 PM	#128
MsOrange Bringin' Sexy Back Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 6,133	people need to understand the difference between the Old testament and the New one

08-01-2005, 03:32 PM	#129
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,880	Im not sure how a gay network thread turned into " should gays marry" but, heres my take on THAT.... Because gay marriage isnt legal in some places, if one gay partner dies and the other has no legal status as spouse, the surviving partner can be found to have no rights to the properties accumulated by both of them during their time together. in other words the surviving partner can lose a house and all the possessions that were jointly owned if the dead partner's family claims them...is THAT fair? Gays have as much right to their partnership rights as anyone ( and no, im NOT gay , I just feel this is the right thing )

08-05-2005, 01:06 AM	#131
Munsters#1 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 29, 2004 Posts: 2,928	It would be so much easier on everyone, if everyone would just be an atheist. You don't need faith in God to be a good person.

09-14-2005, 01:02 PM	#135
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 572	GOD DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINS ANYBODY, INCLUDING HOMOSEXUALS. Jesus offers salvation to all, gay or straight. the Bible calls on us not to hate somebody because they are gay. homosexuality is in the eyes of God the same as all other sins, because a person is a sinner if they have even committed one "itty bitty sin" like a "white lie". God hates ALL sin the same!