Angela Hammond - Girl abducted from phone booth

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Yep. It's about time again for someone to accuse Rob of murder.....

[freakbook]

After thinking about this back and forth, if he is innocent then it's possible he still lied.

If what he said was true, and he did talk to her on the payphone and heard a scream, then I think that's all that happened. Perhaps she said something about a pick-up truck, and he heard a sudden scream on the phone and rushed up there. He goes up and sees nothing but her car. So he jolts down the downtown street looking for a "pick-up" truck, and his transmission dies while he's looking.

If he isn't guilty of killing her, then the above statement had to have been what happened. He made up the guys description, the chase/her screaming his name, and possibly some things about the truck such as the make and model.

The reason for him lying and embellishing is to sound believable, and not become a suspect. If he just told the cops that he heard a scream, and ran up there and didn't see anything, then he'd for sure become the main suspect as there would be no "mystery man" to look for. Also, lying about the chase scene, and her screaming his name definitely make it seem like there's a guy to look for, and not make Rob the main suspect. It's makes the mystery man "real" because he seen and heard it himself.

Without the car scene, description of the perp, and her screaming his name, then it's likely he thought the police wouldn't believe him and he'd get locked up. If he makes all of this up, then they can't just point the finger at him. There's someone else to look for, not just the police casting doubt on him because he doesn't know anything else.

I still think he's guilty, but if I'm being open-minded and think he's innocent then I think he still lied about the chase scene, and the perps description. It's possible he just heard a scream, and that's it.

Innocent, or guilty. He lied and embellished his story. Take out the chase scene, and her screaming his name in both scenarios and they make more sense, and are more believable and less "Hollywood".

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Yep. It's about time again for someone to accuse Rob of murder.....

Yep...and it's about time for the Rob fan club to come out of the woodwork and get their pitchforks

I wish all of the other anti-Rob posters come back and we can all morph into a megazord and destroy this Pro-Rob fanclub.

[OleMustyBalls]

Originally Posted by freakbook

If you think about it, without a body then he could've said he saw Ronald McDonald kidnap her and they couldn't really disprove it, because there's NOTHING. No body, evidence, decal, truck, weird bearded guy, record phone conversation - nothing. He probably just smoked enough weed to be calm to pass his polygraph test. Then to, I wonder how close he was to the officers of that town?

Would The Hamburglar and Grimace have been accomplices?

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by OleMustyBalls

Would The Hamburglar and Grimace have been accomplices?

Yeah, and Mayor McCheese got them off the hook after a weeks worth of investigation.

[JannTosh]

Originally Posted by freakbook

After thinking about this back and forth, if he is innocent then it's possible he still lied.

If what he said was true, and he did talk to her on the payphone and heard a scream, then I think that's all that happened. Perhaps she said something about a pick-up truck, and he heard a sudden scream on the phone and rushed up there. He goes up and sees nothing but her car. So he jolts down the downtown street looking for a "pick-up" truck, and his transmission dies while he's looking.

If he isn't guilty of killing her, then the above statement had to have been what happened. He made up the guys description, the chase/her screaming his name, and possibly some things about the truck such as the make and model.

The reason for him lying and embellishing is to sound believable, and not become a suspect. If he just told the cops that he heard a scream, and ran up there and didn't see anything, then he'd for sure become the main suspect as there would be no "mystery man" to look for. Also, lying about the chase scene, and her screaming his name definitely make it seem like there's a guy to look for, and not make Rob the main suspect. It's makes the mystery man "real" because he seen and heard it himself.

Without the car scene, description of the perp, and her screaming his name, then it's likely he thought the police wouldn't believe him and he'd get locked up. If he makes all of this up, then they can't just point the finger at him. There's someone else to look for, not just the police casting doubt on him because he doesn't know anything else.

I still think he's guilty, but if I'm being open-minded and think he's innocent then I think he still lied about the chase scene, and the perps description. It's possible he just heard a scream, and that's it.

Innocent, or guilty. He lied and embellished his story. Take out the chase scene, and her screaming his name in both scenarios and they make more sense, and are more believable and less "Hollywood".

You know. I gotta admit, you bring up some interesting points about this case I've never considered

[Awsi Dooger]

Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Yep. It's about time again for someone to accuse Rob of murder.....

It's actually very valuable. Some people simply have a brutally incompetent grasp of what variables are meaningful, and which ones are not. It's the reason I fear that type acquiring top positions like detective or prosecutor.

Imagine the gunk dropped recently in this thread delivered in a court room, and with similar-thinking types flooding the jury box. Truth suddenly has no relevance, not compared to an E ticket journey of one ludicrous flail attached to another, and then another...

E Ticket may be a passe reference. My sister lives within eyesight of the Disney World fireworks but that's as close as I've been in years.

I gather the Eastern Wings of Man ride/exhibit is no longer thriving.

BTW, I've noted that some avatars around here are increasingly apropos toward how I view the poster in deep thought.

Obviously you have to mentally remove the cheese from mine.

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger

It's actually very valuable. Some people simply have a brutally incompetent grasp of what variables are meaningful, and which ones are not. It's the reason I fear that type acquiring top positions like detective or prosecutor.

Imagine the gunk dropped recently in this thread delivered in a court room, and with similar-thinking types flooding the jury box. Truth suddenly has no relevance, not compared to an E ticket journey of one ludicrous flail attached to another, and then another...

E Ticket may be a passe reference. My sister lives within eyesight of the Disney World fireworks but that's as close as I've been in years.

I gather the Eastern Wings of Man ride/exhibit is no longer thriving.

BTW, I've noted that some avatars around here are increasingly apropos toward how I view the poster in deep thought.

Obviously you have to mentally remove the cheese from mine.

It's obvious you're mentally damaged and incapable of poking holes in my theory, so I guess it's easier for you to insult me, then it is for you to argue against my logic. If you're worth your salt, argue with me toe to toe. Provide facts that back up why you think he's innocent. Serious facts that will change my mind. No "he passed a polygraph, he's good" or "The cops cleared him because they couldn't find evidence".

Drop some serious logic on his testimony and why it makes sense. Go back to my post and argue against my points. If you can't/don't then it's clear that you can only insult personally, and not counter my facts.

And this is to every other Rob supporter here. This isn't elementary school. We're adults. Muttering insults, or blank statements such as "oh boy, another Rob is guilty poster" or being a sheep and attacking someone personally with a different opinion than you on a cold case proves that you're incompetent and can't back your stuff up. If you're going to come up, then drop some serious knowledge. No childish retorts. If you have to resort to acting like a child defending their idol, then I'll keep smacking you down. Come with logic, not insults.

Good day, Awsi Booger.

[JannTosh]

Originally Posted by freakbook

It's obvious you're mentally damaged and incapable of poking holes in my theory, so I guess it's easier for you to insult me, then it is for you to argue against my logic. If you're worth your salt, argue with me toe to toe. Provide facts that back up why you think he's innocent. Serious facts that will change my mind. No "he passed a polygraph, he's good" or "The cops cleared him because they couldn't find evidence".

Drop some serious logic on his testimony and why it makes sense. Go back to my post and argue against my points. If you can't/don't then it's clear that you can only insult personally, and not counter my facts.

And this is to every other Rob supporter here. This isn't elementary school. We're adults. Muttering insults, or blank statements such as "oh boy, another Rob is guilty poster" or being a sheep and attacking someone personally with a different opinion than you on a cold case proves that you're incompetent and can't back your stuff up. If you're going to come up, then drop some serious knowledge. No childish retorts. If you have to resort to acting like a child defending their idol, then I'll keep smacking you down. Come with logic, not insults.

Good day, Awsi Booger.

I think you bring up some interesting points but I don't see why you need to be so antagonistic

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by JannTosh

I think you bring up some interesting points but I don't see why you need to be so antagonistic

Because I'm obviously in the minority, and I'm being treated as such. If you can't see the other replies, then I don't know what to tell you. It's obvious that his hoard has came in, and started throwing fluff.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I'm not a fan of mobs, nor fluff. I'm a fan of logic, and proving your point. All of this other gossipy, and childish retort I'm not a fan of. I'm just making it clear that if you're going to argue, then argue. Logic, sound theories, and evidence are what I want, not a group of sheep coming in throwing fluff, and insulting me based on my opinion, and not logic.

This thread alone has ran off other members because they thought Rob was guilty. There's an obvious hive mind here. I don't care if someone thinks he's innocent, that's their right, but having half the forum jump on other members because they think that he's guilty is ridiculous.

I like you JannTosh, but don't act like I'm the only one throwing stones.

[freakbook]

That being said, let's just discuss the case, and no more fluff (also from my end). I don't want to insult/anger anyone, and I don't want to further derail this thread. I just want to discuss this case without name calling, and personal attacks.

Cases like this is are what make this forum great. Alot of different theories to one story. I apologize for my getting out of hand. But, please, can we just discuss this case without hostility from both sides? If you think he's innocent, guilty, or you just don't know then great, discuss it. But being petty and shaming, or trying to run someone away for their opinion is childish.

Not everyone is going to agree. His story doesn't make sense to some, and that's alright. Some people are going to have a different opinion than you, that's not a reason to lash out, and start insulting them. If you want to shut someone up then do it with logic, not unnecessary fluff.

[OleMustyBalls]

Originally Posted by freakbook

It's obvious that his hoard has came in, and started throwing fluff.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I'm not a fan of mobs, nor fluff. I'm a fan of logic, and proving your point.

A fan of Fluffers? Who doesn't love Fluffers?

[OleMustyBalls]

I'm with the majority of folks on this case. Rob did not orchestrate this crime. Unfortunate set of circumstances that made him look like a possible suspect. A lot of abductions in and around this area of Missouri back then.

[Hot Jock]

[freakbook]

Originally Posted by OleMustyBalls

I'm with the majority of folks on this case. Rob did not orchestrate this crime. Unfortunate set of circumstances that made him look like a possible suspect. A lot of abductions in and around this area of Missouri back then.

If Rob didn't orchestrate the crime, then lied about key details. His story is way too sensationalized for it to be true.

The main fact that bothers me is that no one has seen this truck/person before, or after Angela was abducted. He wasn't seen in another state, or a closer state days prior or after. Nothing. No one could give a legit tip about this detailed truck with a fish decal. No credible leads whatsoever. So it's obvious he was made up. Possibly along with the truck.

Also, Hi LakeForestPI.