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XCalibur · 01-16-2015, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LilMissKryssy

It is weird that I ALWAYS think "what if Robs car didn't give out!?!" He might've been able to chase that guy down and save her. I think the perpetrator might've gotten scared if he kept up the chase and just let her go. Anyways, that thought has always crossed my mind about this case. Obviously, its not robs fault but I can only imagine how many times this thought went through his head over the years.

There is no way of knowing what would have happened. Its tempting to believe Rob could have made a heroic rescue, but its just as possible he could have been killed too. As far as I know the broadcast nor any other source said Rob had any weapons, and there is a fairly good chance the abductor did.

So its easy to look at the car tearing up as tragic, but for all we know it might have actually saved Rob's life. Rob may have chased this guy and Angela down and the scumbag might have shot him. No way to tell for sure.

We can only hope that Angela's death was not to painful and that her abductor is either dead or incarcerated for another crime. I think there is a strong possibility it was Larry Hall.

TheCars1986 · 01-16-2015, 08:53 AM

I've always thought that if Rob's car never gave out, the abductor would have eventually gave up and threw Angie from the car before booking out of the area.

LooksLikeCRicci · 01-16-2015, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

I've always thought that if Rob's car never gave out, the abductor would have eventually gave up and threw Angie from the car before booking out of the area.

Hey, unlike Tim McClure... something we AGREE on!

I feel the same way. There's always a chance that Rob could have been hurt, but I think the chances are greater of the killer getting spooked and throwing Angie out of the truck.

TheCars1986 · 01-17-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Hey, unlike Tim McClure... something we AGREE on!

I feel the same way. There's always a chance that Rob could have been hurt, but I think the chances are greater of the killer getting spooked and throwing Angie out of the truck.

What if...McClure was the abductor!?

James T · 01-17-2015, 09:32 AM

Isn't it possible this was just a chancer who saw a young female at an isolated spot & decided to chance his arm & abduct an easy target?

The strangest thing is that he would abduct her while she wae on the phone-for all he knew she could have been sppoked by him & describing him & the vehicle details to whoever was on the line while he was doing his searching in his vehicle routine.

LooksLikeCRicci · 01-17-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

What if...McClure was the abductor!?

I'm making Keanu face right now.

danmanx · 02-12-2015, 05:54 PM

This is the most heartbreaking case I've ever seen. Especially because if that DAMN car transmission didn't die, she may very well be alive today. God, does that case get to me personally. I can't even imagine that boyfriends' frustration.

This is my one wish to God that he would just help solve this case. Oh hell, even a psychic I'd listen to.

DazzlerSparkler · 03-10-2015, 10:00 PM

This case is so depressing but every time I see her name mentioned I think of the idea for the Angela Hammond phonebooth playset in the UM Action Figures thread.

Hambone2421 · 04-09-2015, 02:25 PM

I know that technology and the media are FAR more advanced now than they were back then but I have always found it hard to believe that a truck with a distinguishing characteristic (fish logo) was never seen or heard from again. Sure, the owner could have easily gotten rid of the logo, but wouldn't SOMEONE have noticed seeing that vehicle prior to this crime? I know that whenever I see something goofy like that on a vehicle, it sticks out to me.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but, there wasn't ever a record of a vehicle matching this description as being stolen, was there? I bring this up for two reason. The first is, if it was indeed stolen, I'd be curious to know if it was ever found. Secondly, one of the more popular people tied to this case is Kenneth McDuff. He stole vehicles when committing crimes so if he was the perpetrator of this crime, he would have likely stolen this vehicle, thus a report must be out there somewhere.

TheCars1986 · 04-09-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone2421

I know that technology and the media are FAR more advanced now than they were back then but I have always found it hard to believe that a truck with a distinguishing characteristic (fish logo) was never seen or heard from again. Sure, the owner could have easily gotten rid of the logo, but wouldn't SOMEONE have noticed seeing that vehicle prior to this crime? I know that whenever I see something goofy like that on a vehicle, it sticks out to me.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but, there wasn't ever a record of a vehicle matching this description as being stolen, was there? I bring this up for two reason. The first is, if it was indeed stolen, I'd be curious to know if it was ever found. Secondly, one of the more popular people tied to this case is Kenneth McDuff. He stole vehicles when committing crimes so if he was the perpetrator of this crime, he would have likely stolen this vehicle, thus a report must be out there somewhere.

Welcome back!

You bring up some excellent points.

Somebody would have noticed the fish decal, the dirty truck, the unkempt man driving the truck, etc. at some point. I find it odd that there were no reported sightings of this truck or the man since Angela's abduction. But if the guy ditched the truck (in a body of water, buried it, etc.), or had it crushed at a junkyard or something, that would be the only way I could see why there were no sightings of it since. And I feel like if the truck was stolen, this would increase the likelihood of the guy getting caught, so I doubt he would use one during the abduction.

Hambone2421 · 04-09-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

Welcome back!

You bring up some excellent points.

Somebody would have noticed the fish decal, the dirty truck, the unkempt man driving the truck, etc. at some point. I find it odd that there were no reported sightings of this truck or the man since Angela's abduction. But if the guy ditched the truck (in a body of water, buried it, etc.), or had it crushed at a junkyard or something, that would be the only way I could see why there were no sightings of it since. And I feel like if the truck was stolen, this would increase the likelihood of the guy getting caught, so I doubt he would use one during the abduction.

Thanks bro. Been a long two years. Congrats on the baby!

Yea, my guess is that the truck was demolished due to Angela's boyfriend having seen it. Which leads me to believe that whoever owned the vehicle, killed Angela. Why go to lengths to destroy or conceal a vehicle that isn't yours? Even then though, unless the guy lived out in the middle of nowhere, it seems logical to expect at least a handful of people to have seen and noticed it at some point.

TheCars1986 · 04-09-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone2421

Thanks bro. Been a long two years. Congrats on the baby!

Thank you.

LooksLikeCRicci · 04-09-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone2421

Yea, my guess is that the truck was demolished due to Angela's boyfriend having seen it. Which leads me to believe that whoever owned the vehicle, killed Angela. Why go to lengths to destroy or conceal a vehicle that isn't yours? Even then though, unless the guy lived out in the middle of nowhere, it seems logical to expect at least a handful of people to have seen and noticed it at some point.

I always assumed that the decal was a removable one and if the vehicle was not destroyed shortly after Angela was kidnapped, it was removed, repainted, and sold.

On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to ditch a vehicle in a body of water. We're seeing all sorts of vehicles that are being "found" after being lost for several years recently. And let's not forget Dale Wayne Eaton, who buried Lisa Kimmel's car on his property.

I also suspect she was a victim of Kenneth McDuff. Not Rob. McDuff.

You make a good point about lack of a police report though. If the vehicle was stolen, why wasn't it reported?

TheCars1986 · 04-09-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

I also suspect she was a victim of Kenneth McDuff. Not Rob. McDuff.

Maybe we are not looking close enough at Rob.

He did say he "didn't get the job done" on UM.

Something sinister in those comments, Mr. Shafer?

WishfulDreamer · 04-09-2015, 10:32 PM

Given McDuff's penchant for abducting women who happened to be alone, I really have to wonder if it could have been him. He chose very secluded hiding spots when burying his victims and fessed up before execution to several locations, including the body of Colleen Reed. Honestly, I can't even watch that segment anymore after learning what he and his accomplice did to her. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about. I couldn't stop thinking about it for over a week after watching the American Justice segment.

McDuff, besides being a horrible person and killer, was also an arrogant arsehole. Watch interviews with him and he will deny his guilt and try to be like an innocent, falsely accused man. He does lay on the schmooze well enough that any not acquainted to the cases he's connected to may well believe him. This is why I think there are likely many more victims that we don't know about. He wasn't officially pointed out as a possible suspect, so he never said. He fought never to confess or reveal. If Angela or any others killed by him are out there undiscovered, we'll likely never know.

I certainly find him a more likely suspect than Rob.

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01-16-2015, 08:53 AM	#962
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,617	I've always thought that if Rob's car never gave out, the abductor would have eventually gave up and threw Angie from the car before booking out of the area.

01-17-2015, 09:32 AM	#965
James T Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2006 Location: England Posts: 1,571	Isn't it possible this was just a chancer who saw a young female at an isolated spot & decided to chance his arm & abduct an easy target? The strangest thing is that he would abduct her while she wae on the phone-for all he knew she could have been sppoked by him & describing him & the vehicle details to whoever was on the line while he was doing his searching in his vehicle routine.

02-12-2015, 05:54 PM	#967
danmanx Unknown Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 29, 2013 Location: Independence, CA Posts: 34	This is the most heartbreaking case I've ever seen. Especially because if that DAMN car transmission didn't die, she may very well be alive today. God, does that case get to me personally. I can't even imagine that boyfriends' frustration. This is my one wish to God that he would just help solve this case. Oh hell, even a psychic I'd listen to.

04-09-2015, 02:25 PM	#969
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,067	I know that technology and the media are FAR more advanced now than they were back then but I have always found it hard to believe that a truck with a distinguishing characteristic (fish logo) was never seen or heard from again. Sure, the owner could have easily gotten rid of the logo, but wouldn't SOMEONE have noticed seeing that vehicle prior to this crime? I know that whenever I see something goofy like that on a vehicle, it sticks out to me. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but, there wasn't ever a record of a vehicle matching this description as being stolen, was there? I bring this up for two reason. The first is, if it was indeed stolen, I'd be curious to know if it was ever found. Secondly, one of the more popular people tied to this case is Kenneth McDuff. He stole vehicles when committing crimes so if he was the perpetrator of this crime, he would have likely stolen this vehicle, thus a report must be out there somewhere.

04-09-2015, 10:32 PM	#975
WishfulDreamer Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 01, 2009 Location: L.A. Posts: 3,868	Given McDuff's penchant for abducting women who happened to be alone, I really have to wonder if it could have been him. He chose very secluded hiding spots when burying his victims and fessed up before execution to several locations, including the body of Colleen Reed. Honestly, I can't even watch that segment anymore after learning what he and his accomplice did to her. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about. I couldn't stop thinking about it for over a week after watching the American Justice segment. McDuff, besides being a horrible person and killer, was also an arrogant arsehole. Watch interviews with him and he will deny his guilt and try to be like an innocent, falsely accused man. He does lay on the schmooze well enough that any not acquainted to the cases he's connected to may well believe him. This is why I think there are likely many more victims that we don't know about. He wasn't officially pointed out as a possible suspect, so he never said. He fought never to confess or reveal. If Angela or any others killed by him are out there undiscovered, we'll likely never know. I certainly find him a more likely suspect than Rob.