Angela Hammond - Girl abducted from phone booth

[kane7474]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

How so?

Well just read about how this guy would operate and you will see what Im saying. He lived in a secluded area on acerage, didnt have many friends or people that knew him and he would drive around stalking people to abduct and murder.

[SageSlowdive]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

Off topic but I wonder how they BOTH fell into being serial killers. I mean one killer is common but a pair of brothers--two in the same family? And remember at the time of the killings, Rush was only 15! A 15 year old serial killer, even if he is working with his older brother, would be kind of rare I'd think. And he seemed to be singularly vicious. I mean Bundy was a vicious killer but the guy had a bit of intelligence, even the Judge in his trial recognized that. Rush, from the letters, just comes off like a psychopath, a demented, sadistic creep with no remorse, nothing regret, no empathy. And from his writings, he fits the profile I was talking about, a serial killer with average or below average intelligence who acts rashly on emotion, because like I said, Angela's abductor was either very confidant or very foolish.

You know, let's say Chaney was the one who abducted Angela, Rush wouldn't have even had to be there--He could've been waiting back at the barn where they took the women to wait for his brother to get back with a woman. Just a theory, which would explain why no one was noticed but the bearded man.

I wonder if the other three guys Rush mentioned were ever investigated and if they are still alive or free, because Rush's letters imply that these other three men had helped them out and worked with them in abducting and/or killing other women. One of them is the very least guilty of obstructing justice as he burned down the brothers' barn which had other bodies and evidence (enough evidence, Rush claimed, that could put him on death row), and one of them was present for the Darby murder.

Rush in his letters also mentions "three b***ches". Funny that in the period of 1991 in Missouri there was three abductions of women which all fit a similar MO--Angela, Trudy Darby, and the Cheryl Kenny. I, like you, don't know how the cops ruled them out. There's quite a few similarities:

1) Angela's abductor, and Rush and Chaney seemed to be "site based" serial killers--They just picked out a location where a vulnerable woman was.

2) He/They seemed to not really worry about being caught, and would hang around the location before abducting their prey. Note that in the Darby case, Trudy became nervous because she saw a creepy man hanging outside her store for over a few minutes. In Angie's case, her abductor waited and actually briefly spoke with her before finally deciding to abduct her.

3) All 3 murders happened in Southern Missouri less than six months apart. Darby's murder (January 19th 1991), Cheryl Kenny (February 27th 1991), and Angela's abduction (April 4th, 1991). The towns in which they happened (Mack's Creek, Clinton, and Nevada) are also not very far apart.

4) Angela's description of her abductor matches Chaney's appearance. Also, Chaney doesn't look creepy, which I believe kind of "disarmed" Angela if you will. She seemed to not be overly afraid of the man, and while Rush looks like a scary kind of guy-Has that wild animal look in his eyes--Chaney doesn't.

5) The fact that no body has been found for either Kenny or Angie. This would fit in with Rush claiming that with the exception of Darby, they burned all their victims' bodies, and in fact it was this slight change of MO which got them caught.

Now, as I said before when we've talked about this theory: The truck didn't necessarily have to belong to the brothers', but could have belonged to anyone of those three associates Rush mentioned.

This seems to be the most logical explanation, that one of the brothers took Angela back to the barn. If they did, they might as well confess of it, so this case can finally be solved.

[CuriousMind90]

Originally Posted by SageSlowdive

This seems to be the most logical explanation, that one of the brothers took Angela back to the barn. If they did, they might as well confess of it, so this case can finally be solved.

Do you think if someone were to ask either one of them questions, they'd answer?

[bell83]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

Do you think if someone were to ask either one of them questions, they'd answer?

I'm reminded of Warden Norton's line from Shawshank Redemption.

"Let's say for the moment this Blatch does exist. You think he'd just fall to his knees and cry: 'Yes, I did it, I confess! Oh, and by the way, add a life term to my sentence.' "

[CuriousMind90]

Originally Posted by bell83

I'm reminded of Warden Norton's line from Shawshank Redemption.

"Let's say for the moment this Blatch does exist. You think he'd just fall to his knees and cry: 'Yes, I did it, I confess! Oh, and by the way, add a life term to my sentence.' "

They're already serving life, though.
Nothing really to lose or gain for them either way.

[cocytus]

Since there's no evidence (an important thing, that) linking Rush and Chaney to this crime, then wouldn't everybody simply be jumping the gun by blaming them?

[kane7474]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

They're already serving life, though.
Nothing really to lose or gain for them either way.

Or worse, risk the death penalty

[bell83]

Originally Posted by kane7474

Or worse, risk the death penalty

That's basically what I was getting at.

[CuriousMind90]

Anyone think Angela might've been a victim of the I-70 killer?

[truthbtold]

This case stands out so vividly to me. It has since first saw it air in the 90's. This will no doubt be one of the first cases/segments discussed on the Unsolved Mysteries podcast I am currently working on.

What was the most recent "official" word on this case regarding possible suspects or theories?

[CuriousMind90]

Originally Posted by truthbtold

This case stands out so vividly to me. It has since first saw it air in the 90's. This will no doubt be one of the first cases/segments discussed on the Unsolved Mysteries podcast I am currently working on.

What was the most recent "official" word on this case regarding possible suspects or theories?

Last April the police had said they had "DNA evidence" but didn't elaborate on whom it pointed toward or of what nature the evidence was. However, apparently Chaney and Rush (who killed Trudy Darby in a town near Angela's just a month prior and had an MO similar to Angela's abductor) were ruled out as suspects, but again, the police didn't elaborate how Chaney and Rush were ruled out and didn't say if they were looking at any potential suspects.

[SageSlowdive]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

Anyone think Angela might've been a victim of the I-70 killer?

[WishfulDreamer]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

Anyone think Angela might've been a victim of the I-70 killer?

Nah, different MO. She was at a payphone, he always shot women working in stores. Not to mention, she kidnapped when he seemed to just kill rather than abduct anyone.

[mwcarolina]

Originally Posted by CuriousMind90

Anyone think Angela might've been a victim of the I-70 killer?

NO, if it was the I-70 Killer (the same one i think you are talking about), he wouldnt' have kidnapped her and had her in his truck, he would've walked right up to her and shot her and Rob would be driving and likely picking up her dead body.

[CuriousMind90]

Kind of weird to think that there were at least four, if not more, serial killers or serial abductors working in Missouri in roughly the same time period.

I'm referring to
Marvin Chaney
Jesse Rush (and their associates Cheevers, Marshall and Parell)--Killed Trudy Darby (Mack's Creek, MO, January 1991) plus AT LEAST three other unnamed women.
I70 Killer (killed Nancy Kitzmiller in St. Charles, MO, May 1992)
Kenneth McDuff
Whoever abducted the Three Missouri Women (Abducted from Springfield MO, June 1992)
Angela's Abductor (April 1991)