Anyone else not 'get' today's music?

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by FactoryGirl

LMAO! SO you mean to tell me that LESLEY GORE and CASS ELLIOT can sing better than Christina?!!!!! I think you need to get your ears check!

Both Christina and Timi Yuro recorded a song called "Hurt."

Here is Christina's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbcltLf2VHo

And here is the far superior (IMO) 1961 song by Timi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPy-Memj0vE

[Dean Winchester]

there is good stuff from every genre and era, and there is crap from every genre and era. There have been at least 10 albums I loved this year, but yet only one or two of them will sell over 1 million in the US. I look at the Billboard singles chart and most of what I see doesn't appeal to me, yes, there is the occasional Maroon 5 and Rihanna that I enjoy, but however, I try to look past what's on the chart and try to find what would appeal to me, and there's a lot of stuff out there that does that. I don't think age has anything to do with it but rather what you're into. I have a friend who is 39 and all about Scissor Sisters and K.T. Tunstall, that's up his alley. As I've aged, I've developed a stronger appreciation for music from before my time besides the typical Beatles types that people of all ages love, but I also continue to live in the now as well.

Today's music doesn't "suck", it's very good actually, it's just that most of today's Top 40 music isn't that good. Pick out what you like for yourself, who cares if radio doesn't deem it worthy of airplay. Right now I am in love with Annie Lennox's "Songs Of Mass Destruction", her last huge hit single was 11 or 12 years back, but who cares... the album is fantastic and she's in top form. Even with "top 40", in the past year I loved Justin, Nelly Furtado, Beyonce (I wasn't a fan of her first solo album, but B. Day and Dreamgirls converted me), Maroon 5 and Rihanna's (she is fluff, but irresistable fluff, she's releasing the type of album we NEED from Janet, but won't get) albums, and I'm almost 28.

[Fleet]

IMO, about 80% of '50s/'60s music was good; and about 80% (or more) of modern music isn't good.
But it depends how "good" is defined. What passes as a "good" voice today would never make it back in the '50s/early '60s.

[freshprinceofLA]

YEA I don't even know if we could call what we have today music. Music back in the day sent a message and just told it like it was! Guys like Jimi Hendrix and Tupac were real. They sent a message on what they were going through and how thier lives were affected by world events! TODAYS MUSIC IS A PIECE OF SH*t

[FactoryGirl]

There is good and bad music in EVERY era, for every Amy Winehouse, there's Paris Hilton or Britney Spears and for every Ella James, there's Lesley Gore who really isn't that much of a singer. Let's not bash all of today's music... the superior singers of today are...

Amy Winehouse
Christina Aguriela
Beyonce
Maroon 5
Rihanna
Lily Allen
Fantasia
Ciara
Tegan and Sara
Joss Stone(who is to me a poor man's version of Ella Fitzgerald and Ella James but she still is good)
Jessica Simpson(on a good day)
Justin Timberlake(who my uncle's generation calls a poor man's version of Michael Jackson)
Chris Brown(can out dance anyone except for my girl Janet and The Nicholas brothers)

Check them out, because not everyone today sounds as painful as Britney and Ashanti. Please don't judge modern music based on these wack behind rappers and pop tarts like Britney

The golden age of music to me isn't the 1950's, it's the sounds of the 1930's and 1940's, there was so many wonderful singers, especially in blues.

[FactoryGirl]

Originally Posted by freshprinceofLA

YEA I don't even know if we could call what we have today music. Music back in the day sent a message and just told it like it was! Guys like Jimi Hendrix and Tupac were real. They sent a message on what they were going through and how thier lives were affected by world events! TODAYS MUSIC IS A PIECE OF SH*t

Tupac is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is NO ONE out there like Tupac, never was never been. The problem was people focused too much on his troubles. Can you believe some of these rappers trying to claim themselves as the next Tupac? . Uh no.....

I loved the music of the late eighties and nineties(except for the last two years of the decade), you had Tupac, Biggie, Snoop, Dr. Dre, Nirvana, Nine Inch Nails, my girls Janet, Whitney, and Mariah, Celine Dion(don't shoot me, some people might think she's corny as hell, but she can blow), Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and so many others, now that is music right there!

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by Fleet

IMO, about 80% of '50s/'60s music was good; and about 80% (or more) of modern music isn't good.
But it depends how "good" is defined. What passes as a "good" voice today would never make it back in the '50s/early '60s.

I don't disagree with you that 80% of what's on the chart isn't very good, but there is so much diversity in music now that even if you don't like what is being played on the radio, there's something out there for ya. You just gotta turn the radio off and look harder than in past years. I want to say that I am not an "indie rock snob". IMO, a lot of that music is pretentious and honestly no better than the Britney/Avril crap that it's supposed to be the antithesis to, I just mean in general. There is something for everyone nowadays musically, you just gotta find what you like.

[Judith's Eyes]

Some of the modern music is crap like Britney, Avril(the fakest rocker ever!), and some of the rap. But what I don't believe is that how can Kelly Osbourne and Paris Hilton can get record deals?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kelly and Paris can't get even CLOSE to a mike back in the day.

But like a few said, there are good singers today, but I wouldn't count Lily Allen and Rihanna as 'good'. Unique, but not good!

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by Judith's Eyes

Some of the modern music is crap like Britney, Avril(the fakest rocker ever!), and some of the rap. But what I don't believe is that how can Kelly Osbourne and Paris Hilton can get record deals?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kelly and Paris can't get even CLOSE to a mike back in the day.

But like a few said, there are good singers today, but I wouldn't count Lily Allen and Rihanna as 'good'. Unique, but not good!

Rihanna is not a memorable artist and she won't be around in 5, 10 years, but for what she is, she's decent. Songs like S.O.S., Umbrella, Don't Stop The Music, Unfaithful, etc... are some of the best pop/r&b songs in years and she's appealing to a lot of people who don't care for r&b/hip hop. She's releasing the songs that Janet should be putting out but won't because of her troll boyfriend who has stated in interviews that he doesn't want her appealing to a white pop audience anymore (yea, we saw what a big hit her last album was as a result, didn't we?). She's not a great singer but she is definately delivering for the time being, but I don't think she has what it takes to still be around in 5 or 10 years.

[Judith's Eyes]

Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

Rihanna is not a memorable artist and she won't be around in 5, 10 years, but for what she is, she's decent. Songs like S.O.S., Umbrella, Don't Stop The Music, Unfaithful, etc... are some of the best pop/r&b songs in years and she's appealing to a lot of people who don't care for r&b/hip hop. She's releasing the songs that Janet should be putting out but won't because of her troll boyfriend who has stated in interviews that he doesn't want her appealing to a white pop audience anymore (yea, we saw what a big hit her last album was as a result, didn't we?). She's not a great singer but she is definately delivering for the time being, but I don't think she has what it takes to still be around in 5 or 10 years.

I don't think Rihanna is going to last either, like Ashanti and Ciara and Brandy, the novelty of a 'black pop tart' girl is going to wear off, she doesn't have the chops like powerhouse Beyonce. I also think Lily Allen nor Amy Winehouse is going to make it in seven years, Lily will be singing in local pubs where she belongs and Amy is going to end up dead.

Jermaine Dupri said that?! Wow, Janet is a grown woman who can make her own decisions and I wish that she shouldn't listen to Durpi, I mean when was the last time his artists had a hit? No wonder Bow Wow broke away from him!

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by Judith's Eyes

Jermaine Dupri said that?! Wow, Janet is a grown woman who can make her own decisions and I wish that she shouldn't listen to Durpi, I mean when was the last time his artists had a hit? No wonder Bow Wow broke away from him!

yep, I'll find the article sometime when I look for it (it was posted on another forum I go to around the time of it's release). JD was talking about the direction the 20 Y.O. album would be in, and said "there's not going to be anything like Escapade, All For You or Together Again on this album because songs like that draw in a white pop audience, and that's not where Janet should be". What a freaking racist, it must sting him to see Timbaland scoring so well producing Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake and even working with Madonna, Duran Duran and Bjork.

[Judith's Eyes]

Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

yep, I'll find the article sometime when I look for it (it was posted on another forum I go to around the time of it's release). JD was talking about the direction the 20 Y.O. album would be in, and said "there's not going to be anything like Escapade, All For You or Together Again on this album because songs like that draw in a white pop audience, and that's not where Janet should be". What a freaking racist, it must sting him to see Timbaland scoring so well producing Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake and even working with Madonna, Duran Duran and Bjork.

It really must kill him because sorry to say, pop artists is where the real money is and unless you are Whitney, Mariah, Tina, and Beyonce, R&B artists don't sell as well. Janet should of had her dream team to work on her last album.

Timberland is the hottest producer out there right now. He did a terrific job with Missy and the late Aaliyah's albums.

[diezman]

I find most of today's mainstream to be "tepid at best" I work as a DJ and hear these songs quite often. But that's just my opinion! I'm sure that many people think 00's is the "holy grail" of creativity in music.

There is good music from every decade and disposible music from every decade. I personally love the 60s, 70s & early 80s. It's the music I identify with- probably because I grew up with it.

It all went downhill for a while until grunge kicked in. Grunge was the kick in the arse that music needed at the time.

But even grunge got stale after a while.

I just wonder which post 1995 bands will still be heard of 20-30 years from now. I'm not trying to be a wise-a**. It's a legitimate question.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

I don't disagree with you that 80% of what's on the chart isn't very good, but there is so much diversity in music now that even if you don't like what is being played on the radio, there's something out there for ya. You just gotta turn the radio off and look harder than in past years. I want to say that I am not an "indie rock snob". IMO, a lot of that music is pretentious and honestly no better than the Britney/Avril crap that it's supposed to be the antithesis to, I just mean in general. There is something for everyone nowadays musically, you just gotta find what you like.

Sad that you have to dig that deep just to find something decent.
I'll save myself the trouble and just continue to listen to '50s-'70s music.

[mrs.gingerhinkley]

Originally Posted by Mikado

I havent "gotten" most of the "new music" since about 1973!!!

^nice.


Yeah... while all my friends are listening to Justin Timberlake and whoever else... I'm tuning in to the local AM oldies station for some REAL music (The Mamas and the Papaps, Beatles, CCR, Elvis, The Doors...)

Really though, the onlly modern music I listen to is Country (so once again I'm in the outcasts) and alot of what's popular is just cross over junk like Carrie Underwood and the Wreckers....

grr...