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Old 07-06-2004, 03:27 PM   #46
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Well, obciously me and moeee think somewhat the same, while you and Topanga think similar. I really dont think Hilary has that much talent, I did get stuck seeing the Lizzie Movie, and she did do good potraying that other persons role. To me, she just looks like she cary herself like shes all that, thats why I really dont like her.
And how does she give off that appearance?

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Remember the circle of life video, out of Raven Christy and Hilary, who was in the middle like she deserved that spotlight, when her voice isnt great, esp. compared to Christy and raven, even Annelisa from raven sounded better than her, Heck almost everybody who was in the video that sang sounded better than her.
Oh, be quiet. So she was in the middle. You act as though she was doing that to symbolize she was better than everyone else. Maybe Christy's voice is better than Hilary's, I dont know, but Raven's is no better.

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Lets look at these facts. If Hilary hadnt of gone with Disney, than she basically wouldnt have a career. She wouldnt be popular, she probably wouldnt have been known, so she owes disney a big thanks.
What, is she supposed to be kissing the Disney exectutives feet or something? How do YOU know she hasnt thanked them? Just because she doesnt go around saying how thankful she is 50 times a month doesnt mean she isnt thankful. I know I've seen videos where she thanked Disney before. Then again, you probably think Raven is more thankful to Disney because Hilary hasnt yelled out "DISNEY ROCKS!" at a Nickelodeon awards show yet.

And you know what, even if she did thank them 50 times a month, instead of saying she was thankful you'd try and say something stupid like "She was just kissing up to them".

Disney probably is the reason she has a Career as big as she does now, but if Disney hadnt picked her up, she still would have HAD a career. If Raven wouldnt have went with Disney she'd most likely be totally forgotten about now too. Although she probably WOULD still have a career, just not as big as with Disney.

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If she had landed a part in some other company, she probably still wouldnt have been given that much recognition as Disney gave her. Disney gave her a singing career, when she cant even sing or when she doesnt have NO talent in that area. Raven, on the other, may not sound ABSOLUTELY great with her voice, but before she came with disney, she had an album out, and already had experience with singing, so disney knew they were going to do that with her. Also with Raven, she had a career before disney, but lets say she wouldnt have went with them, she probably wouldnt be as popular, but she still would be known.
Hilary can sing. I can sing. Not good at all, but I CAN sing. Everyone can. Hilary just does it alot better than most.

The fact is, Raven is no better of a singer, or an actress than Hilary. Hilary isnt the absolute GREATEST at it, but you can't expect the "Greatest" from a 16 year old Disney star.

Anyways, Raven has been acting for YEARS longer than Hilary. If anything that only makes Hilary look like a better actress because Raven's been doing it since Hilary was in Diapers but yet she's still crap at it. Hilary has only been doing it for 6 years, and she's pretty good.

Yeah, Raven had an album out before Disney, but that puts her in a whole different CLASS than Hilary. So you can't really compare them. The only aspect where they're even remotely comparable is that they're both Disney stars, and they both act and sing.

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Raven just seems more Humble to me. She doesnt look like she carries a big head on her shoulder like all that fame should be hers. Raven doesnt look like she carries herself Boastfully, like all this is mine. But hilary just looks like shes thinks shes all that, which shes not.
That's crap anyways, you don't have any facts on how she DOES act that way, or you just havent bothered to share. If Hilary REALLY thought she was all that, and that she deserved every bit of what she had, she wouldnt do charity for the people who ARE less fortunate than her. How many 16 year old actresses even give a crap about that? She's been doing that since she was about 14, I think.

You have no facts, or proof that Hilary IS that way, so until I see it, I will give Hilary the benefit of the doubt, and say she isnt.
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Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney She can't win for losing.
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Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney She can't win for losing.
Exactly. There's no winning.
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And how does she give off that appearance?



Oh, be quiet. So she was in the middle. You act as though she was doing that to symbolize she was better than everyone else. Maybe Christy's voice is better than Hilary's, I dont know, but Raven's is no better.



What, is she supposed to be kissing the Disney exectutives feet or something? How do YOU know she hasnt thanked them? Just because she doesnt go around saying how thankful she is 50 times a month doesnt mean she isnt thankful. I know I've seen videos where she thanked Disney before. Then again, you probably think Raven is more thankful to Disney because Hilary hasnt yelled out "DISNEY ROCKS!" at a Nickelodeon awards show yet.

And you know what, even if she did thank them 50 times a month, instead of saying she was thankful you'd try and say something stupid like "She was just kissing up to them".

Disney probably is the reason she has a Career as big as she does now, but if Disney hadnt picked her up, she still would have HAD a career. If Raven wouldnt have went with Disney she'd most likely be totally forgotten about now too. Although she probably WOULD still have a career, just not as big as with Disney.


Hilary can sing. I can sing. Not good at all, but I CAN sing. Everyone can. Hilary just does it alot better than most.

The fact is, Raven is no better of a singer, or an actress than Hilary. Hilary isnt the absolute GREATEST at it, but you can't expect the "Greatest" from a 16 year old Disney star.

Anyways, Raven has been acting for YEARS longer than Hilary. If anything that only makes Hilary look like a better actress because Raven's been doing it since Hilary was in Diapers but yet she's still crap at it. Hilary has only been doing it for 6 years, and she's pretty good.

Yeah, Raven had an album out before Disney, but that puts her in a whole different CLASS than Hilary. So you can't really compare them. The only aspect where they're even remotely comparable is that they're both Disney stars, and they both act and sing.



That's crap anyways, you don't have any facts on how she DOES act that way, or you just havent bothered to share. If Hilary REALLY thought she was all that, and that she deserved every bit of what she had, she wouldnt do charity for the people who ARE less fortunate than her. How many 16 year old actresses even give a crap about that? She's been doing that since she was about 14, I think.

You have no facts, or proof that Hilary IS that way, so until I see it, I will give Hilary the benefit of the doubt, and say she isnt.

OK, like I already said and gave my reasons why I dont like her and why I think she sucks, I am really going to say your are right. Like I said before, and maybe you are to ignorant to comprehend it. She comes off TO ME as a stuck up person, Ive always thought of her like that ever since she started to sing. And I cant compare her and raven because to me, Raven is in a higher rank than Hilary.

You be quite, dont tell me just because you probably think she should be in the spotlight too.

I know how I fell about her, and she still is a stuck up snob, and thats the way she comes off to me, maybe if you werent so ignorant yull understand that, thats how the little bitch is seen in my eyes.

So, IMO, Raven has been, will be, and always will be better than Hilary. I agree her voice isnt that great, but its more decent than hilarys.

And all that Bull about you thinking Hilary can sing, maybe wth them studio effects, and she still sucks to me. Thats also your own opinion about her voice. You stated it like it was fact, I guess if you werent so ignorant you would know how to differenciate opinions from fact.
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Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney She can't win for losing.

First off, I didnt say she should keep thanking disney, i said that she owes disney a big thanks. Thats a whole different bowl of Koolade, but I guess if you look at it ignorantly than thats what yull come up with.

Now, hopefully yall know that if she didnt get the part for Lizzie she would have not had a singer career(usually they signed people who have good voices) She wouldnt have even been anybody like her little fake self is now. But Raven would have still had something to do.

Im not going to compare Raven with Hilary, because like I said Raven is in a higher rank, at least to me.
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OK, like I already said and gave my reasons why I dont like her and why I think she sucks, I am really going to say your are right. Like I said before, and maybe you are to ignorant to comprehend it. She comes off TO ME as a stuck up person, Ive always thought of her like that ever since she started to sing. And I cant compare her and raven because to me, Raven is in a higher rank than Hilary.
And you have every right to dislike her, but if you don't have any real facts as to why she should be disliked, don't come over to a board deticated to Hilary and start acting like she's the worst thing to come on the planet since hitler. You're being a jerk, you have the right to voice your opinion as much as you want on this board, but theres a difference from stating your opinion, and shoving it down peoples throats.

And yes, maybe she is in a higher rank than Hilary, rightly so, she's been around longer, like that matters...

Hilary is just starting out, she'll get better, and she'll move up in the ranks.

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You be quite, dont tell me just because you probably think she should be in the spotlight too.
I can't really understand what you're saying. Please talk in english, man.

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I know how I fell about her, and she still is a stuck up snob, and thats the way she comes off to me, maybe if you werent so ignorant yull understand that, thats how the little bitch is seen in my eyes.
I know that's how you feel about her, and I'm not trying to change your opinion, I'm just doing my very best to prove your points wrong (As most of them are).

MAybe she is just a "Little B*tch" in your eyes, but your points are based on purely asumptions and views with no real proof of point, so you shouldnt be going on to Lizzie McGuire boards or Hilary boards bashing the Girl for reasons you don't even have proof of, because you WILL get bad feedback on your points, and rightly so.

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So, IMO, Raven has been, will be, and always will be better than Hilary. I agree her voice isnt that great, but its more decent than hilarys.
That's your opinion, in mine, Hilary will always be better than Raven, even though I have nothing against her, and she seems pretty cool. I see nothing wrong with her, just not my cup of tea.

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And all that Bull about you thinking Hilary can sing, maybe wth them studio effects, and she still sucks to me. Thats also your own opinion about her voice. You stated it like it was fact, I guess if you werent so ignorant you would know how to differenciate opinions from fact.
Eh, it's not bull. Its called OPINION, I think she can sing, and actually is better without studio effects. The effects just make the songs sound cool in my opinion, and I like them.

It IS a fact. Everyone can sing, except for people who cant speek. Some just do bad, and some do good. And in my OPINION, Hilary sings good.

Now you, you're stating that her voice is bad being a fact. In saying that my opinion that her voice is good is "Bull", you just said that your view of her voice being bad, was a fact, not an opinion.
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First off, I didnt say she should keep thanking disney, i said that she owes disney a big thanks. Thats a whole different bowl of Koolade, but I guess if you look at it ignorantly than thats what yull come up with.
She HAS thanked Disney before. If you even gave the time to actually read facts instead of making stuff up in your head you'd know that already.

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Now, hopefully yall know that if she didnt get the part for Lizzie she would have not had a singer career(usually they signed people who have good voices) She wouldnt have even been anybody like her little fake self is now. But Raven would have still had something to do.
I dont know about all of that, but I'm not saying she would have, but nobody knows for sure, so you shouldnt really be talking.

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Im not going to compare Raven with Hilary, because like I said Raven is in a higher rank, at least to me.
Then its best you go back to your little "Raven" board and talk with the rest of the kids, instead of coming over here and comparing the two, as much as you deny it, you have been comparing them, and thats what you've been doing since this thread started.
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Yeah this is not the place for Hilary haters, fine if you hate her, then hate her, but don't bring that hate here.

Go back to the Raven board and spread your Raven love there, you're just making me hate Raven more by doing this
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Yeah this is not the place for Hilary haters, fine if you hate her, then hate her, but don't bring that hate here.

Go back to the Raven board and spread your Raven love there, you're just making me hate Raven more by doing this
Really, it just makes her look worse.

Her fans cant even just talk about her, they have to resort to bashing Hilary to make Raven look better. The fact is, bashing Hilary because she has shot up to stardom and is now bigger than your beloved Raven isnt going to make Raven any bigger of a celebrity.

Maybe that isnt why you're causing all this trouble, but it sure seems like that. You come over here saying how Hilary doesnt deserve all the fame shes gotten - and then try to make her out to be nothing but a brat who thinks she deserves it all.
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Really, it just makes her look worse.

Her fans cant even just talk about her, they have to resort to bashing Hilary to make Raven look better. The fact is, bashing Hilary because she has shot up to stardom and is now bigger than your beloved Raven isnt going to make Raven any bigger of a celebrity.
Exactly I hate when people do that, they cannot defend Raven on her own merits they have to bash Hilary to make Raven look better. When in fact it doesn't
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OK, Im done wasting my time with yall, I will come back, but not anytime soon.

I didnt even bother to read over yall last posts so I really dont know what you said. But I do know that its all **** to me. I did read storm trackers statement about me trying to dictate yall to not like her. Well, your gay if you think I said that, I mean I knew you were ignorant, but saying Im dictated you into not liking her, you are being just like what she comes off to me.

Lets see, ummmmmmm Raven is still better and has better skills, to me, and Hilary sucks more than any actress I know.

Call me whatever you want, immature, arrogant, bastard, whatever, I heard them all, and I dont give a damn. All the words you call me that are bad, are words that fit Hilarys category perfectly. Judging by your replies back, Ill decide whether I wanna comeback or not.

Ill go to the raven board when I want, look at the name of the thread. If you had a smart value its a debate about who should have been teen queen. Hilary shouldnt IMO

This is a freikin message board, once again if you werent ignorant, you would know ppl are going to come here with different opinions if you dont like that than you go away. I registered here, and you will see me all over this site, if you dont like it, than kindly go somewhere else, I mean dang big deal, I dont like Hilary. Quit trippin, and just agree to disagree.

Hate Raven more all you want, Before you came her topanga, and posted something saying how ignorant I was, I was trying to look at her in a different way so I wouldnt be so judgemental. Go back a couple of pages and read my post before you came and said what you said then yull see I didnt start this you did. So thats your problem.
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OK, heres what Ill do. Ill make a deal with you guys similar to what I did at the even stevens boards. After this debate is over I, know that this part of the site will be dead. Just like theres is now. Ill try not to post hateful remarks bout how much I dislike the snotty nosed Hilary, but Ill just state my opinion. If yall cant accept this than yall are stubborn. But thats what Ill do.


Note to you guys, why is it that almost everytime I be on this site, the Thats so raven board is always bumpin with a new topic or new reply, and this part of the site is only bumpin when theres an argument like what we're having now. Is it because people like Raven better, or is it because yall arent as confinident in Hilary as yall say. You decide that one. And you cant say because Lizzie mcguire is cancelled, and Raven isnt, is why yall hardly reply here. Because ST said that Hilary is an emerging star. If she is then there should be a lot of more discussion about her emerging abilities, and how great she is in acting and singing.

Well, yall decide on that, and if yall want me to leave, and not bash her, just kindly say that, and Ill only come here to state my opinion. Which I did when this thread first started, but some people just had to make it more of a big deal than it really was.
This thread was really old, untill ST came and said something I didnt agree with, so naturaley I came to debate her on it. Than the thread died, and topanga came and said something ignorant towards me, and didnt even look at how nicely I said the last post I made, but just quoted something else.

Anyways yall decide, and we'll see if I agree.
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OK, Im done wasting my time with yall, I will come back, but not anytime soon.
About dang time. Although I will be missing our daily arguments.

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I didnt even bother to read over yall last posts so I really dont know what you said. But I do know that its all **** to me. I did read storm trackers statement about me trying to dictate yall to not like her. Well, your gay if you think I said that, I mean I knew you were ignorant, but saying Im dictated you into not liking her, you are being just like what she comes off to me.
Kinda obvious you didnt. So, you're saying I'm acting like a Snobbish, Selfish, B*tch who needs to give a big thanks to Disney?

If you actually took the time to read it you'd know I DIDNT say you were trying to make us dictate her, or anything near it.

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Lets see, ummmmmmm Raven is still better and has better skills, to me, and Hilary sucks more than any actress I know.
Of course, do you think I care? I wasnt trying to change your opinion, just defending Hilary, since you'd like to make her out to be alot worse than she actually is. And, well, I just can't let ya do that since its all asumptions anyway.

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Call me whatever you want, immature, arrogant, bastard, whatever, I heard them all,
That isnt surprising.

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All the words you call me that are bad, are words that fit Hilarys category perfectly.
Yeeeaaah. That was probably the stupidest thing you've said in this thread.

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Judging by your replies back, Ill decide whether I wanna comeback or not.
Betchya anything you reply back.

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Ill go to the raven board when I want, look at the name of the thread. If you had a smart value its a debate about who should have been teen queen. Hilary shouldnt IMO
I am plenty smart, little boy. And I did give my view on who the teen queen should be, I said I didnt care what everyone says, I don't need that. As long as Hilary is the teen queen in MY eyes, thats all that matters. You're the one who turned the conversation around, it didnt exactly turn around anyways, it kinda slowly morphed into what it is now. But that doesnt matter anyways.

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This is a freikin message board, once again if you werent ignorant, you would know ppl are going to come here with different opinions if you dont like that than you go away. I registered here, and you will see me all over this site, if you dont like it, than kindly go somewhere else, I mean dang big deal, I dont like Hilary. Quit trippin, and just agree to disagree.
We arent ignorant, people DO come here with different opinions, the only difference with you is that you dont just give your opinion....You shove it down our throats.

Voicing your opinion = Ok...But not when you do it in every freaking thread, and its the exact same thing, practically copy and paste. Nobody cares, this is a board for the FANS. It is not for haters of the show to talk about it, you hate it? Go talk about it with people who care. The owner of this place doesnt even want people mearly going to the board to bash the show. It only starts fights.

I have an idea, we don't like it, why don't you kindly go somewhere else? This is a fan forum, last time I checked, wouldnt that mean WE belonged here, and not you?

Oh, and I did agree to disagree, I did that a long time ago. I'm just giving constructive comebacks to your views on Hilary, with real points, not lame assumptions with absolutely no proof to back them up.

When Hilary is being talked about negatively at a board deticated to her, I will back Hilary up, and I WILL give my point of view, and facts to prove you wrong. I'm just that way, no hard feelings.

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Hate Raven more all you want, Before you came her topanga, and posted something saying how ignorant I was, I was trying to look at her in a different way so I wouldnt be so judgemental. Go back a couple of pages and read my post before you came and said what you said then yull see I didnt start this you did. So thats your problem.
If you really wanted to be fair to Hilary, or even give her a chance, you would've atleast listened to what I said instead of giving it no thought whatsoever. I don't want to change your opinion, because you really can't do that. But you're acting like you wanted to be all "Fair", which you obviously werent trying to do at all.

You're most likely just jealous that Hilary has kinda, "Stolen" Raven's spotlight on Disney. That's kinda obvious, because if you really had a reason to come over here and bash her besides using the stuff you've just assumed...I could give your views a TAD bit more respect. But you're not using facts, or even really good points, so I can't take ya too seriously.

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OK, heres what Ill do. Ill make a deal with you guys similar to what I did at the even stevens boards. After this debate is over I, know that this part of the site will be dead. Just like theres is now. Ill try not to post hateful remarks bout how much I dislike the snotty nosed Hilary, but Ill just state my opinion. If yall cant accept this than yall are stubborn. But thats what Ill do.
Yeah, I noticed you've been starting crap over there.

Well, maybe it will go a little dead, but not if I can help it.

I'd appreciate if you didnt, thanks.

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Well, you're sure getting off to a good start.

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Note to you guys, why is it that almost everytime I be on this site, the Thats so raven board is always bumpin with a new topic or new reply, and this part of the site is only bumpin when theres an argument like what we're having now.
Well heres some points:

1. The Raven board is mostly just spam, i.e YEPS!!! etc... So it isnt REALLY Raven talk.

2. There is a bigger group of people posting there.

3. That's so Raven is still on the air, so there's new stuff to talk about, on the show.

4. They talk about alot of the same things.

5. More people go there. Not that Raven has more fans than Hilary...I don't know. Doesnt seem like it, but I wont assume...Different things come up in different searches. So more Raven fans may have found this site, and Lizzie/Hilary Fans may just not have found this, because "Hilary" isnt in the name of Lizzie McGuire, but "Raven" is in the title of TSR, so that could be a factor. If someone was searching for "Hilary Duff" but not for "Lizzie McGuire", this site might not come up.

Believe me, there are PLENTY of other active Hil/Lizzie boards.

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Is it because people like Raven better, or is it because yall arent as confinident in Hilary as yall say. You decide that one. And you cant say because Lizzie mcguire is cancelled, and Raven isnt, is why yall hardly reply here. Because ST said that Hilary is an emerging star. If she is then there should be a lot of more discussion about her emerging abilities, and how great she is in acting and singing.
I doubt it's because people like Raven better, more people have just found that site.

Yes, actually I CAN say its because Lizzie McGuire is cancelled, because this board isnt really for just talk about Hilary Duff, but for her show (Although it is definetly allowed).

There are tons of HILARY boards, and not Lizzie Boards, that are booming with activity, but there is rarely talk about Lizzie, because its cancelled, and everyones seen every epsiode quite a few times.

Yes, she is an emerging star, with emerging abilities, that ARE being discussed...On other boards, that are for Hilary, not Lizzie McGuire, although that is discussed because it does relate to her. And believe me, there is plenty of activity, with discussions of her singing and acting. Probably more than the Raven board here.

The difference with the Lizzie Board, is that we discuss the SHOW, and the other cast members, not just Hilary, unlike the Raven board, where its been months since another cast member was mentioned. Ours is a mix of everything about the show, so its a bit moderated as to which is discussed for (Hilary is probably the most, then Adam Lamberg)

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Well, yall decide on that, and if yall want me to leave, and not bash her, just kindly say that, and Ill only come here to state my opinion. Which I did when this thread first started, but some people just had to make it more of a big deal than it really was.
This thread was really old, untill ST came and said something I didnt agree with, so naturaley I came to debate her on it. Than the thread died, and topanga came and said something ignorant towards me, and didnt even look at how nicely I said the last post I made, but just quoted something else.
I like a nice debate, especially when its about something I like as much as Hilary. I feel a sense of pride that I'm defending her...I'm a loyal fan, so it's sorta like my job. And in situations like that I feel it needs to be done.

I saw some of your posts here, and they were bashing Hilary, naturally I'm going to disagree and debate.

MAybe Topanga didnt SEE your other post until after she posted hers, you couldve put that into consideration if you really wanted this discussion to stop.

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Anyways yall decide, and we'll see if I agree.
Somehow I doubt it.

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Yeah, I noticed you've been starting crap over there.

Well, maybe it will go a little dead, but not if I can help it.

I'd appreciate if you didnt, thanks.



Well, you're sure getting off to a good start.



Well heres some points:

1. The Raven board is mostly just spam, i.e YEPS!!! etc... So it isnt REALLY Raven talk.

2. There is a bigger group of people posting there.

3. That's so Raven is still on the air, so there's new stuff to talk about, on the show.

4. They talk about alot of the same things.

5. More people go there. Not that Raven has more fans than Hilary...I don't know. Doesnt seem like it, but I wont assume...Different things come up in different searches. So more Raven fans may have found this site, and Lizzie/Hilary Fans may just not have found this, because "Hilary" isnt in the name of Lizzie McGuire, but "Raven" is in the title of TSR, so that could be a factor. If someone was searching for "Hilary Duff" but not for "Lizzie McGuire", this site might not come up.

Believe me, there are PLENTY of other active Hil/Lizzie boards.



I doubt it's because people like Raven better, more people have just found that site.

Yes, actually I CAN say its because Lizzie McGuire is cancelled, because this board isnt really for just talk about Hilary Duff, but for her show (Although it is definetly allowed).

There are tons of HILARY boards, and not Lizzie Boards, that are booming with activity, but there is rarely talk about Lizzie, because its cancelled, and everyones seen every epsiode quite a few times.

Yes, she is an emerging star, with emerging abilities, that ARE being discussed...On other boards, that are for Hilary, not Lizzie McGuire, although that is discussed because it does relate to her. And believe me, there is plenty of activity, with discussions of her singing and acting. Probably more than the Raven board here.

The difference with the Lizzie Board, is that we discuss the SHOW, and the other cast members, not just Hilary, unlike the Raven board, where its been months since another cast member was mentioned. Ours is a mix of everything about the show, so its a bit moderated as to which is discussed for (Hilary is probably the most, then Adam Lamberg)



I like a nice debate, especially when its about something I like as much as Hilary. I feel a sense of pride that I'm defending her...I'm a loyal fan, so it's sorta like my job. And in situations like that I feel it needs to be done.

I saw some of your posts here, and they were bashing Hilary, naturally I'm going to disagree and debate.

MAybe Topanga didnt SEE your other post until after she posted hers, you couldve put that into consideration if you really wanted this discussion to stop.



Somehow I doubt it.


OMG TF you rule

He has started crap at the Boy Meets World forum as well, he was banned under another screenname for starting crap, hmmm maybe TJ needs to get a PM letting him know he's causing trouble again, and calling people names

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