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dawsongirl · 03-01-2002, 12:27 AM

Okay, so was their star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for TV or recording?

Tiger32 · 03-01-2002, 12:38 AM

Primarily for their television success.

If their musical talent is to be rewarded, they would present them with a grammy to distinguish them from their peers. Many people who are famous and not so famous have received a star on the walk of fame. The number who have received stars on the walk of fame is well into the thousands. But keep in mind this is not an award given to them by their peers.

so how many grammys did the Monkees win?

It should be noted that the Beatles have won several.

Tiger32 · 03-02-2002, 07:01 PM

The answer to that question is zero grammys for the Monkees. Which is not at all surprising.

Tammy · 03-03-2002, 11:52 PM

To Buckeye Deb: I just checked my Then & Now tape from the 80's. There were 3 new songs released on it: That Was Then, This Is Now, Kicks, and Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere. Do any of these sound like the ones you are looking for?

To Tiger32: First of all, Mick Jagger never tried out for the Monkees. I have heard the rumor that Charles Manson tried out for the Monkees (which is also untrue) but never this one. Micky Dolenz's name has no "e" in it. It is a pet peeve of most Monkee fans when people spell his name with an "e". Io have never heard of Micky and Mike saying they do not belong in the R&RHOF. The Monkees and Beatles are friends so I don't understand why their fans should fight over who is better.

suzannetigger · 03-04-2002, 09:18 PM

All Of Your Toys is a truly great Monkee song but it was never released in the 60's due to some copyright problems I believe. It didn't come out until Rhino released it on bonus tracks. I always loved Davy's Look Out Here Comes Tommorrow as he looked so into that song when he did it for the show. He looked as if he were truly attempting to make a painful descision, or perhaps he just had some gas.

Tiger32 · 03-04-2002, 10:43 PM

Well Tammy, I am sure there are a lot of things that you never heard of, but that does not mean that they are not true. I suggest that you do some research as to whether Mick Jagger was rejected for the Monkees.

As far as I am concerned, if Dick Clark said it, then I take him for his word. Dick Clark is not the type of person to make a statement like that unless he knows the facts.

Tammy · 03-04-2002, 11:32 PM

Actually, I happen to know quite a bit about the Monkees. I've been a fan since 1997 and I've read several books about/by them and have learned a lot of interesting facts by talking to other fans. Many people get facts about the Monkees confused, so I would not believe what the average person says about the Monkees unless I know that they're a fan.

Tiger32 · 03-05-2002, 12:05 AM

Four or five years is nothing!

I watched the Monkees when they were on network television, more than 30 years ago. However, I do not consider myself to be an expert on the Monkees. But I know that they were not as good as the Beatles, as some in this forum have suggested.

With all due respect, I consider Dick Clark to be the foremost expert when it comes to music of that era, and he is certainly not the average person. Many years ago on his radio series entitled "Rock Roll and Remember", he talked about how the Monkees began, and how Mick Jagger had expressed interest as being part of the new Monkees television show, which was currently in development. The producers instead selected the lesser known Davey Jones rather than Jagger, and of course the rest is history.

Why would Dick Clark make up this story if it were not true? Dick Clark is one of the most highly regarded individuals in the entertainment industry. He is also the master of little known trivia. He had nothing to gain for providing this information.

Tammy · 03-05-2002, 12:52 AM

4 or 5 years is something, it is not my fault I was not born earlier and I have learned alot about the Monkees in 4 or 5 years. Again, who is better is a matter of opinion and both groups had different accomplishments. I didn't say Dick Clark said something wrong on purpose, it may have been a mistake or maybe you heard it wrong or remembered it wrong.

Tiger32 · 03-05-2002, 11:13 PM

You are right it is not your fault that you were born later. I am not suggesting that your age is a problem, however, I am saying that 4 to 5 years does not make one an expert of anything. If that were so, than I would be an expert of many things.

I also did not say that Mick Jagger auditioned for the Monkees, I just said that he was rejected. Which means that he expressed interest in the project, which may have involved him directly contacting the producers, or more likely his agent checking into it for him. In any case the producers of the show wanted to go with an unknown face, so they chose Davey Jones instead. I do not know whether Mick Jagger was seriously considered for the part or not. But I do trust the journalistic integrity of Dick Clark, because he will not say something like that without thoroughly checking the facts, which probably involved him talking directly to the shows producers, as well as with Mick Jagger.

As for the real issue, the Beatles were much better than the Monkees, the record speaks for itself. I cited all of the Beatles awards, including their winning of several grammy awards, 40 plus hit records, 20 of which were number 1 hits. In addition to all this, they had another 25 hits as solo artists. And finally the Beatles were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. By contrast the Monkees only had 6 hit records, they did not write their own music, they did not win any grammys, and they have not been nor will they ever be elected into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. One would think that if the recording industry had any regard for the Monkees, than they would have been given at least one grammy, and perhaps elected into the Hall of Fame. So, yes it is a matter of opinion regarding the Monkees, but it is an opinion that is shared by virtually everyone in the recording industry, and that holds a lot of weight with me.

Paula · 03-22-2002, 04:15 PM

The Monkees' version of Daydream Believer rocks!

StrawberryFields · 04-12-2002, 10:51 PM

Just to be different, lol. I think The kind of girl I could love. When Mike sings it, and you get to see the guys playing, yeah, yeah, I know they probably weren't really. It's one of the only times that mike looks happy to me. Isn't that the one where he winks? I'd have to go drag out a tape and see.

Marvo301 · 05-17-2002, 03:15 PM

My favorite is Daydream Believer but Pleasent Valley Sunday comes a close second.

03-03-2002, 11:52 PM	#34
Tammy MonkeeGroupies Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2001 Location: Monkeeland Posts: 263	To Buckeye Deb: I just checked my Then & Now tape from the 80's. There were 3 new songs released on it: That Was Then, This Is Now, Kicks, and Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere. Do any of these sound like the ones you are looking for? To Tiger32: First of all, Mick Jagger never tried out for the Monkees. I have heard the rumor that Charles Manson tried out for the Monkees (which is also untrue) but never this one. Micky Dolenz's name has no "e" in it. It is a pet peeve of most Monkee fans when people spell his name with an "e". Io have never heard of Micky and Mike saying they do not belong in the R&RHOF. The Monkees and Beatles are friends so I don't understand why their fans should fight over who is better.
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03-04-2002, 10:43 PM	#36
Tiger32 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 624	Well Tammy, I am sure there are a lot of things that you never heard of, but that does not mean that they are not true. I suggest that you do some research as to whether Mick Jagger was rejected for the Monkees. As far as I am concerned, if Dick Clark said it, then I take him for his word. Dick Clark is not the type of person to make a statement like that unless he knows the facts.
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03-05-2002, 12:05 AM	#38
Tiger32 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 624	Four or five years is nothing! I watched the Monkees when they were on network television, more than 30 years ago. However, I do not consider myself to be an expert on the Monkees. But I know that they were not as good as the Beatles, as some in this forum have suggested. With all due respect, I consider Dick Clark to be the foremost expert when it comes to music of that era, and he is certainly not the average person. Many years ago on his radio series entitled "Rock Roll and Remember", he talked about how the Monkees began, and how Mick Jagger had expressed interest as being part of the new Monkees television show, which was currently in development. The producers instead selected the lesser known Davey Jones rather than Jagger, and of course the rest is history. Why would Dick Clark make up this story if it were not true? Dick Clark is one of the most highly regarded individuals in the entertainment industry. He is also the master of little known trivia. He had nothing to gain for providing this information.
	Last edited by Tiger32; 03-05-2002 at 12:11 AM.

03-05-2002, 11:13 PM	#40
Tiger32 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 624	You are right it is not your fault that you were born later. I am not suggesting that your age is a problem, however, I am saying that 4 to 5 years does not make one an expert of anything. If that were so, than I would be an expert of many things. I also did not say that Mick Jagger auditioned for the Monkees, I just said that he was rejected. Which means that he expressed interest in the project, which may have involved him directly contacting the producers, or more likely his agent checking into it for him. In any case the producers of the show wanted to go with an unknown face, so they chose Davey Jones instead. I do not know whether Mick Jagger was seriously considered for the part or not. But I do trust the journalistic integrity of Dick Clark, because he will not say something like that without thoroughly checking the facts, which probably involved him talking directly to the shows producers, as well as with Mick Jagger. As for the real issue, the Beatles were much better than the Monkees, the record speaks for itself. I cited all of the Beatles awards, including their winning of several grammy awards, 40 plus hit records, 20 of which were number 1 hits. In addition to all this, they had another 25 hits as solo artists. And finally the Beatles were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. By contrast the Monkees only had 6 hit records, they did not write their own music, they did not win any grammys, and they have not been nor will they ever be elected into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. One would think that if the recording industry had any regard for the Monkees, than they would have been given at least one grammy, and perhaps elected into the Hall of Fame. So, yes it is a matter of opinion regarding the Monkees, but it is an opinion that is shared by virtually everyone in the recording industry, and that holds a lot of weight with me.
	Last edited by Tiger32; 03-05-2002 at 11:48 PM.

04-12-2002, 10:51 PM	#42
StrawberryFields Apple Scruff Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2002 Location: The Monkees' pad Posts: 117	Just to be different, lol. I think The kind of girl I could love. When Mike sings it, and you get to see the guys playing, yeah, yeah, I know they probably weren't really. It's one of the only times that mike looks happy to me. Isn't that the one where he winks? I'd have to go drag out a tape and see.
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03-01-2002, 12:27 AM	#31
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,134	Okay, so was their star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for TV or recording?

03-01-2002, 12:38 AM	#32
Tiger32 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 624	Primarily for their television success. If their musical talent is to be rewarded, they would present them with a grammy to distinguish them from their peers. Many people who are famous and not so famous have received a star on the walk of fame. The number who have received stars on the walk of fame is well into the thousands. But keep in mind this is not an award given to them by their peers. so how many grammys did the Monkees win? It should be noted that the Beatles have won several.

03-02-2002, 07:01 PM	#33
Tiger32 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 14, 2002 Posts: 624	The answer to that question is zero grammys for the Monkees. Which is not at all surprising.

03-04-2002, 09:18 PM	#35
suzannetigger Member Forum Cub Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: NY Posts: 2	All Of Your Toys is a truly great Monkee song but it was never released in the 60's due to some copyright problems I believe. It didn't come out until Rhino released it on bonus tracks. I always loved Davy's Look Out Here Comes Tommorrow as he looked so into that song when he did it for the show. He looked as if he were truly attempting to make a painful descision, or perhaps he just had some gas.

03-04-2002, 11:32 PM	#37
Tammy MonkeeGroupies Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2001 Location: Monkeeland Posts: 263	Actually, I happen to know quite a bit about the Monkees. I've been a fan since 1997 and I've read several books about/by them and have learned a lot of interesting facts by talking to other fans. Many people get facts about the Monkees confused, so I would not believe what the average person says about the Monkees unless I know that they're a fan.

03-05-2002, 12:52 AM	#39
Tammy MonkeeGroupies Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2001 Location: Monkeeland Posts: 263	4 or 5 years is something, it is not my fault I was not born earlier and I have learned alot about the Monkees in 4 or 5 years. Again, who is better is a matter of opinion and both groups had different accomplishments. I didn't say Dick Clark said something wrong on purpose, it may have been a mistake or maybe you heard it wrong or remembered it wrong.

03-22-2002, 04:15 PM	#41
Paula Little Rascals Fan Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2001 Location: Northern California Posts: 309	The Monkees' version of Daydream Believer rocks!

05-17-2002, 03:15 PM	#43
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,456	My favorite is Daydream Believer but Pleasent Valley Sunday comes a close second.