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Old 06-27-2005, 08:57 PM   #31
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They may be hard-working americans, but they are engaging in a lifestyle that is against
what god says and that is morally wrong.
why don't you just come on out. The way you fuss about anything GLBT oriented, yet have a "sissified" taste in tv and movies makes me wonder if you're really a closet queen and you feel like insulting gays because maybe the more you try to disown it, you think the closer it'll convert you to heterosexuality.

Just say it :"I like men and you're the one with the problem if you can't handle it". If you come out and just admit it you'll be a much less bitter person

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I don't give a damn what your "God says". He's not God if he discriminates against certain humans. I would never follow a "God" like that.
same here. The best part are the "Christians" who actually do claim they believe God made people gay... YET gays and lesbians are going to hell. What kind of god would make people just so he can damn them? It's not the God I believe in I must say
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God is real. If more people followed His word there would be less crime and ignorance in this world.
well, being anti-gay is something I'd constitute as "ignorance". People don't have the slightest clue what being gay is like and then try to come and tell us exactly what we think and that we "made" this choice to defy God, that my friend is ignorance too.
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Webwarrior, your holier-than-thou bull**** is getting completely out of line and I personally have no problem telling you, once and for all, to shut your god damn mouth and keep it stapled closed!
very true, how many times do we need to see "as opposed to homosexuality as I am" or "AIDS is Gods way of punishing gays" from you know who whenever a thread about homosexuality is posted. I actually don't believe for one second he is heterosexual myself
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What you're telling us it's our choice to steal, lie, cheat, commit bodily harm, commit acts of terror and being stupid all rolled into one, that's why God gave us crimes to commit? You must be crazy! [/QUOTE]

He gave us free will. We make the choice to do what we feel is right. God didn't give us crime,we created it .I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about it?
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But what about people who claim to have followed His Word and have ended up hurting others and spread ignorance anyway?
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What you're telling us it's our choice to steal, lie, cheat, commit bodily harm, commit acts of terror and being stupid all rolled into one, that's why God gave us crimes to commit? You must be crazy!
uh, god didn't make the law, we did. of course there are the ten commandments, but they weren't given to us to be broken (as you imply with crimes), they were given to us because he wants the world to be that way.
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Everyone on this site has a right to their opinions. If webwarrior or anyone feels that homosexuality is morally wrong and goes against his religious beliefs, he's entitled to post that.

There's no law on this site that says everyone has to agree with homosexuality. Debating with him is within the rules, but no personal attacks.
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Everyone on this site has a right to their opinions. If webwarrior or anyone feels that homosexuality is morally wrong and goes against his religious beliefs, he's entitled to post that.

There's no law on this site that says everyone has to agree with homosexuality. Debating with him is within the rules, but no personal attacks.
well, but the thing is, you know what they say about the people who are so obsessed with homosexuality they won't shut up about it.... they're usually the people who are gay themselves but just afraid to come out

And I don't think "religious beliefs" is a valid excuse. TripperFan is straight and Christian as well, but she is rather pro-gay and doesn't believe in any of the "***s burn in hell" bull**** that people like Webby spews. You can be Christian and tolerant, some people just like to back their religion up as an excuse.
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But what about people who claim to have followed His Word and have ended up hurting others and spread ignorance anyway?
because sin is very real too
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They may be hard-working americans, but they are engaging in a lifestyle that is against
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webwarrior, while I respect your opinion, I have to wonder if you think this is the best way of presenting it. As a Christian, it is our goal in life to spread the word of Christ to those who do not know Him, and to be more like Jesus. Do you honestly think people in these "immoral" lifestyles will suddenly change because of the some what short and rude remarks you sometimes make? Jesus sat and ate with the sinners in order to show them His love before He showed them God's word. If you honestly feel that God has layed it on your heart to change people's way, maybe you should spend even MORE time in prayer and re-evaluate how you are doing it.

And that should be God with a big G not a little g.
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well, but the thing is, you know what they say about the people who are so obsessed with homosexuality they won't shut up about it.... they're usually the people who are gay themselves but just afraid to come out

And I don't think "religious beliefs" is a valid excuse. TripperFan is straight and Christian as well, but she is rather pro-gay and doesn't believe in any of the "***s burn in hell" bull**** that people like Webby spews. You can be Christian and tolerant, some people just like to back their religion up as an excuse.
I don't think webwarrior is obsessed with homosexuality. He simply states his opinion on the matter, and that doesn't mean he's gay. He's entitled to his opinion. If he crossed the line and started bashing gays, I'd be the first one to put a stop to it.

I'm straight, Christian and have no problem with gays. I do realize that people have other views. In webwarrior's case, he cites religious beliefs. I believe him because I don't know him to be a liar.

I also don't recall him stating that ***s should burn in hell.

You can't change people. Not everyone is on board with homosexuality, and they have a right to their opinion.
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I don't know if God is real, and with that being said...if he is, there's supposed to be **** going on like that or there wouldn't be heaven.
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I don't give a damn what your "God says". He's not God if he discriminates against certain humans. I would never follow a "God" like that.
I totally agree. If God doesn't accept everyone, then forget this religion. But I think that if HE"S out there, HE does.
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I totally agree. If God doesn't accept everyone, then forget this religion. But I think that if HE"S out there, HE does.

Perfectly said - you put that exactly as I feel it. Hope you don't mind if I use it somewhere down the line when we go through this discussion again for the 5,438th time.
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