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lilb-boy3 · 07-05-2004, 03:39 AM

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Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Wait...You're saying TSR has had more than 65 episodes? Somehow I doubt that...

Lizzie is better in my opinion, and I don't think TSR will ever get the amount popularity Lizzie McGuire did. It was a great show alot of people liked.

Just my opinion.

Well, it may not have had that many, but it seems like they have a whole bunch. I mean, they probably already have reached there limit, but I doubt disney is going to kick them to the curve.

I think that TSR is so much better than Lizzie. It may not be where many people can actually relate to, but compared to Lizzie its more realistic.

Another reason why TSR probably will last longer is because Raven has much more talent than Hilary duff. Shes a much better actress, and shes a much better singer. And her show is actually funny not phony.

Now this, is just my opinion.

Stormtracker TF · 07-05-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Well, it may not have had that many, but it seems like they have a whole bunch. I mean, they probably already have reached there limit, but I doubt disney is going to kick them to the curve

I looked it up and its only at 30 or 40 something. If it gets to 65, I can almost guarantee that it will be cancelled unless theres a miracle. Even Lizzie was cancelled after 65 episodes, and if that show can't break the rule, I'm not sure exactly what could.

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I think that TSR is so much better than Lizzie. It may not be where many people can actually relate to, but compared to Lizzie its more realistic.

When I'm watching a TV show, I don't care how realistic it is. MacGyver and Happy Days are my two favorite shows, and neither of them are very realistic. When I want to watch TV, I want to get away from realsticness, as long as it isnt just so unrealistic that its ********.

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Another reason why TSR probably will last longer is because Raven has much more talent than Hilary duff. Shes a much better actress, and shes a much better singer. And her show is actually funny not phony.

It wouldnt matter if she was as popular as Britney Spears, or was an actress like Audrey Hepburn, Disney wouldnt let that show go passed 65 episodes. I don't agree with any of that though, Raven overacts alot of things on her show. That makes it seem very phony. I'm not saying Lizzie McGuire isnt once in awhile. It's even a little corny sometimes, but its a great show thats really funny.

lilb-boy3 · 07-05-2004, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
I looked it up and its only at 30 or 40 something. If it gets to 65, I can almost guarantee that it will be cancelled unless theres a miracle. Even Lizzie was cancelled after 65 episodes, and if that show can't break the rule, I'm not sure exactly what could.

When I'm watching a TV show, I don't care how realistic it is. MacGyver and Happy Days are my two favorite shows, and neither of them are very realistic. When I want to watch TV, I want to get away from realsticness, as long as it isnt just so unrealistic that its ********.

It wouldnt matter if she was as popular as Britney Spears, or was an actress like Audrey Hepburn, Disney wouldnt let that show go passed 65 episodes. I don't agree with any of that though, Raven overacts alot of things on her show. That makes it seem very phony. I'm not saying Lizzie McGuire isnt once in awhile. It's even a little corny sometimes, but its a great show thats really funny.

I dont know I think ppl like raven better, i know I do. The way you look at shows is different form me. Looking at a show as phony and fake as Lizzie just isnt my cup of Koolade.

Yes Raven does over act on her show, but at least she can act several different parts, and its funny and enjoyable to watch. She can act like that on her show, than she did an excellent job on the cheetah girls, because she was acting more like a snob.( similar to what Hilary may act like in real life) Look at her on the first Zenon, than look at her on her show and than look at her on the cheetah girls. She act totally different in all those three roles, that it show how good of an actress she really is. Now Hilary on the other hand acted very very the same in her movie, Cadet Kelly, and her show. She seemed more annoying in Cadet Kelly than her show, but she still held that bratty annoying apperance. So seeing that to me, it still looks like she isnt a great actress at all, and I already know she isnt a good singer period. So basically, to me, her whole career is built on fake phoniness.

IMO.

moeee · 07-05-2004, 11:47 PM

i agree too.....personally, i think hilary should be thankful for being able to have her own show!!! its like hilary doesnt even appreicate the work that she does, so maybe that's why people call her a phony....its almost like hilary takes her work for granted!

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I dont know I think ppl like raven better, i know I do. The way you look at shows is different form me. Looking at a show as phony and fake as Lizzie just isnt my cup of Koolade.

It isnt THAT phony and fake. Its very enjoyable to watch.

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Yes Raven does over act on her show, but at least she can act several different parts, and its funny and enjoyable to watch.

It doesnt really matter how many different parts you play if you're crap at acting period. The worst actor in the world could do 155 different types of personalities and they wouldnt be any better of an actor.

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She can act like that on her show, than she did an excellent job on the cheetah girls, because she was acting more like a snob.( similar to what Hilary may act like in real life) Look at her on the first Zenon, than look at her on her show and than look at her on the cheetah girls. She act totally different in all those three roles, that it show how good of an actress she really is. Now Hilary on the other hand acted very very the same in her movie, Cadet Kelly, and her show. She seemed more annoying in Cadet Kelly than her show, but she still held that bratty annoying apperance. So seeing that to me, it still looks like she isnt a great actress at all, and I already know she isnt a good singer period. So basically, to me, her whole career is built on fake phoniness.

IMO.

Hilary's only done 2 movies so far and one TV show...And you can't really count the Lizzie McGuire movie, since she had to act like she did on the show. It'd be stupid if she acted totally different.

Kinda early in her career to be judging her on how she can't act.

Anyways, It's been anounced that she landed the starring role in a movie coming up in 2005, according to IMDB. She plays a snobby girl who gets sent to an Outward Bound program. Sounds kinda crappy, but I don't know.

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by moeee
i agree too.....personally, i think hilary should be thankful for being able to have her own show!!! its like hilary doesnt even appreicate the work that she does, so maybe that's why people call her a phony....its almost like hilary takes her work for granted!

How is any of that true? It'd make alot more sense if you explained what you mean.

Hilary does a ton of charity work. She doesnt take what she has for granted. She's raised alot of money for charity, and spends time with kids with disability. She hardly has any time for her friends or family, or time at home. But when she isnt working she'll do charity work. That's more than alot of actors/actresses who just don't give a crap about other people. That hardly makes her look snobby.

moeee · 07-06-2004, 01:20 AM

if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:23 AM

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if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

Ok, lets say someone gets out some stuff to cook and they start to cook. If they keep on cooking, they'll get better, right? NAW! They'll stay the same all their lives and stink at it.

That isnt true is it? So how is it any different with acting? Practice makes perfect. She's young anyways, with expirience, she'll most likely get better.

spunkygirl · 07-06-2004, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by moeee
if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

That's your personal opinion that she can't act, not everyone feels that way.

Personally I would pick her over Raven, and lots of other teen actors that try to act. At least Hilary has talent.

moeee · 07-06-2004, 01:32 AM

moeee · 07-06-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Ok, lets say someone gets out some stuff to cook and they start to cook. If they keep on cooking, they'll get better, right? NAW! They'll stay the same all their lives and stink at it.

That isnt true is it? So how is it any different with acting? Practice makes perfect. She's young anyways, with expirience, she'll most likely get better.

well, i sure hope so because in my OPINON, hilary has a LOT of work to do!

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:37 AM

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How is any of that true? It'd make alot more sense if you explained what you mean.

Hilary does a ton of charity work. She doesnt take what she has for granted. She's raised alot of money for charity, and spends time with kids with disability. She hardly has any time for her friends or family, or time at home. But when she isnt working she'll do charity work. That's more than alot of actors/actresses who just don't give a crap about other people. That hardly makes her look snobby.

I forgot to mention that she played two parts in the Lizzie movie.

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by moeee

Wow, great post. Now exactly what that ment is yet to be said.

Stormtracker TF · 07-06-2004, 01:39 AM

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well, i sure hope so because in my OPINON, hilary has a LOT of work to do!

Maybe she does, but not anymore than Raven does. She'll get better, both of them probably if they both stick to acting.

I also forgot to mention she was in Cheaper by the Dozen, I didnt see that so I don't know what her character was like.

lilb-boy3 · 07-06-2004, 04:39 AM

Well, obciously me and moeee think somewhat the same, while you and Topanga think similar. I really dont think Hilary has that much talent, I did get stuck seeing the Lizzie Movie, and she did do good potraying that other persons role. To me, she just looks like she cary herself like shes all that, thats why I really dont like her. Remember the circle of life video, out of Raven Christy and Hilary, who was in the middle like she deserved that spotlight, when her voice isnt great, esp. compared to Christy and raven, even Annelisa from raven sounded better than her, Heck almost everybody who was in the video that sang sounded better than her. Lets look at these facts. If Hilary hadnt of gone with Disney, than she basically wouldnt have a career. She wouldnt be popular, she probably wouldnt have been known, so she owes disney a big thanks. If she had landed a part in some other company, she probably still wouldnt have been given that much recognition as Disney gave her. Disney gave her a singing career, when she cant even sing or when she doesnt have NO talent in that area. Raven, on the other, may not sound ABSOLUTELY great with her voice, but before she came with disney, she had an album out, and already had experience with singing, so disney knew they were going to do that with her. Also with Raven, she had a career before disney, but lets say she wouldnt have went with them, she probably wouldnt be as popular, but she still would be known.

Raven just seems more Humble to me. She doesnt look like she carries a big head on her shoulder like all that fame should be hers. Raven doesnt look like she carries herself Boastfully, like all this is mine. But hilary just looks like shes thinks shes all that, which shes not.

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moeee Peanut Butter Ice Cream Pie Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 40,094	i agree too.....personally, i think hilary should be thankful for being able to have her own show!!! its like hilary doesnt even appreicate the work that she does, so maybe that's why people call her a phony....its almost like hilary takes her work for granted!

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moeee Peanut Butter Ice Cream Pie Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 40,094	if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

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lilb-boy3 Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 08, 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 204	Well, obciously me and moeee think somewhat the same, while you and Topanga think similar. I really dont think Hilary has that much talent, I did get stuck seeing the Lizzie Movie, and she did do good potraying that other persons role. To me, she just looks like she cary herself like shes all that, thats why I really dont like her. Remember the circle of life video, out of Raven Christy and Hilary, who was in the middle like she deserved that spotlight, when her voice isnt great, esp. compared to Christy and raven, even Annelisa from raven sounded better than her, Heck almost everybody who was in the video that sang sounded better than her. Lets look at these facts. If Hilary hadnt of gone with Disney, than she basically wouldnt have a career. She wouldnt be popular, she probably wouldnt have been known, so she owes disney a big thanks. If she had landed a part in some other company, she probably still wouldnt have been given that much recognition as Disney gave her. Disney gave her a singing career, when she cant even sing or when she doesnt have NO talent in that area. Raven, on the other, may not sound ABSOLUTELY great with her voice, but before she came with disney, she had an album out, and already had experience with singing, so disney knew they were going to do that with her. Also with Raven, she had a career before disney, but lets say she wouldnt have went with them, she probably wouldnt be as popular, but she still would be known. Raven just seems more Humble to me. She doesnt look like she carries a big head on her shoulder like all that fame should be hers. Raven doesnt look like she carries herself Boastfully, like all this is mine. But hilary just looks like shes thinks shes all that, which shes not.