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BLT · 06-13-2003, 12:10 PM

I thought, however, that Bill Daily's comments about Wayne Rogers were not nice, unnecessary and totally un-called-for.

Well, I agree with Bill Daily. Wayne Rogers was awful as Tony, & I never liked MASH either. They should've just wrote out Tony, liked they did in the second reunion movie.

Also, according to the transcript they now claim that Hagman didn't do the reunion movies because of "Dallas," but Dallas's Ken Kercheval starred in the second one. I was always under the impression before, that he wanted nothing to do with IDOJ, he didn't even show up at NBC's Anniversary Show last year.

Jeanniefan · 06-13-2003, 12:54 PM

I loved the marathon and it really brought me back to my interest in IDOJ!

I think I read somewhere that the producers of the first reunion movie made an assuption that Hagman would be a part of the cast and practically do it for free and he refused. It was a sad blunder on their part to make that assumption. I almost wish they hadn't done the reunion movie at all.

I did enjoy the Larry King interview and I thought Barbara Eden really shined. I also saw her the next day on Good Morning America and Fox News. She was so delightful and funny plus she brought her bottle with her something I don't think I have seen her do in decades.

Jeanniefan

Artfiore1 · 06-13-2003, 02:45 PM

BLT,
whether you l liked it or not, "M*A*S*H" was an outstanding series -- probably the greatest show ever, and Wayne Rogers was marvelous in his role on that show.

I don't think I ever saw the "Jeannie" movie which had him playing Tony Nelson. If I did, I don't remember it, so I can't say how "awful" he may or may not have been in that role.

"I'm excited, and I'm getting there and I see Wayne Rogers . . . But, here's Wayne Rogers dressing up as *him*. And it went downhill from then on. He wasn't that funny on 'M.A.S.H.' I mean, Wayne Rogers??" was not only untrue, but also completely unnecessary to say about a guy whose biggest offense most likely is not being the actor who played the part on the series.

If not being Larry Hagman is a crime, then I -- and a hell of a lot other people -- had better watch out! We're *all* guilty of the same crime.

=============================================

Jeanniefan,
I also enjoyed the marathon very much. I don't know if there's another show that can consistantly make me laugh like "I Dream Of Jeannie" does.

Later,
Art

vze3t9q9 · 06-14-2003, 09:14 PM

Getting back to the reunions. I always felt Larry felt at that time the Jeannie reunions was a show from his past and he didn't really want to get back into it. I felt that he felt that Dallas was a better show. He did do better financially and was more famous in Dallas than Jeannie. Then I saw a snippet of him and Barbara on Donny and Marie's daytime show and he seem happy about talking about it. I did think gosh he has gotten old. BUt i am happy his new liver is working. Maybe he felt he should talk about the past, for now he has a future. Barbara looks the same as 20 years ago.

g

Artfiore1 · 06-14-2003, 11:07 PM

vze3t9q9,
I think people are usually really into what they're currently doing (as Larry Hagman was during his "Dallas" days), always thinking it's better than anything else they've done before -- which to them is now "ancient history." As much fame as he had gained on "I Dream Of Jeannie," it certainly didn't compare to the attention he received on "Dallas" . . . especially after J.R. was shot.

But then, after enough time has passed, any and all negative feelings, including beliefs that it was inferior -- and unpleasant memories, if there were any -- which they may have had about the older project have all been forgotten. And, all they're left with is a fondness for whatever it was, and maybe even a desire to relive that simpler time when they were younger.

You'd probably find a lot more tired 50-year-olds looking forward to a high school reunion than successful 30-year-olds who are.

Later,
Art

TV Guy · 06-15-2003, 10:39 PM

Art, I think you hit the nail on the head on how Larry's feelings towards the series have softened. As for Bill Daily's comments, I also thought they were unnecessary, and kind of low-class. No matter how he felt about Wayne's performance as Tony (I didn't think he was that bad, considering he had a thankless job) it's bad form to bad-mouth a colleague in public.

Artfiore1 · 06-16-2003, 01:43 AM

TV Guy,
Thank you very much.

And, as for Bill Daily's badmouthing a colleague in public, immediately afterward, he said, "This is not live, because I would have never said that. We're not on. Thank goodness." What was *that* all about?

Was it live, and he didn't know it?

Or, were the interview and calls pre-recorded, then shown later . . . and either somebody made a mistake or doublecrossed him?

Later,
Art

BLT · 06-18-2003, 03:46 PM

whether you l liked it or not, "M*A*S*H" was an outstanding series -- probably the greatest show ever, and Wayne Rogers was marvelous in his role on that show

I may have been too harsh, I know MASH was a much beloved show and i'm glad that people like it. But as a kid, I didn't know about his filmography, I just knew it wasn't JR. That's all.

06-13-2003, 12:10 PM	#16
BLT Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 06, 2003 Posts: 496	I thought, however, that Bill Daily's comments about Wayne Rogers were not nice, unnecessary and totally un-called-for. Well, I agree with Bill Daily. Wayne Rogers was awful as Tony, & I never liked MASH either. They should've just wrote out Tony, liked they did in the second reunion movie. Also, according to the transcript they now claim that Hagman didn't do the reunion movies because of "Dallas," but Dallas's Ken Kercheval starred in the second one. I was always under the impression before, that he wanted nothing to do with IDOJ, he didn't even show up at NBC's Anniversary Show last year.
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06-13-2003, 12:54 PM	#17
Jeanniefan Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jun 12, 2003 Posts: 2	IDOJ Reunion Movies and Larry Hagman I loved the marathon and it really brought me back to my interest in IDOJ! I think I read somewhere that the producers of the first reunion movie made an assuption that Hagman would be a part of the cast and practically do it for free and he refused. It was a sad blunder on their part to make that assumption. I almost wish they hadn't done the reunion movie at all. I did enjoy the Larry King interview and I thought Barbara Eden really shined. I also saw her the next day on Good Morning America and Fox News. She was so delightful and funny plus she brought her bottle with her something I don't think I have seen her do in decades. Jeanniefan

06-13-2003, 02:45 PM	#18
Artfiore1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2001 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA Posts: 457	BLT, whether you l liked it or not, "MASH" was an outstanding series -- probably the greatest show ever, and Wayne Rogers was marvelous in his role on that show. I don't think I ever saw the "Jeannie" movie which had him playing Tony Nelson. If I did, I don't remember it, so I can't say how "awful" he may or may not have been in that role. "I'm excited, and I'm getting there and I see Wayne Rogers . . . But, here's Wayne Rogers dressing up as him. And it went downhill from then on. He wasn't that funny on 'M.A.S.H.' I mean, Wayne Rogers??" was not only untrue, but also completely unnecessary to say about a guy whose biggest offense most likely is not being the actor who played the part on the series. If not being Larry Hagman is a crime, then I -- and a hell of a lot other people -- had better watch out! We're all* guilty of the same crime. ============================================= Jeanniefan, I also enjoyed the marathon very much. I don't know if there's another show that can consistantly make me laugh like "I Dream Of Jeannie" does. Later, Art

06-14-2003, 09:14 PM	#19
vze3t9q9 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 31, 2003 Location: ROCKCOVE Posts: 548	Getting back to the reunions. I always felt Larry felt at that time the Jeannie reunions was a show from his past and he didn't really want to get back into it. I felt that he felt that Dallas was a better show. He did do better financially and was more famous in Dallas than Jeannie. Then I saw a snippet of him and Barbara on Donny and Marie's daytime show and he seem happy about talking about it. I did think gosh he has gotten old. BUt i am happy his new liver is working. Maybe he felt he should talk about the past, for now he has a future. Barbara looks the same as 20 years ago. g

06-14-2003, 11:07 PM	#20
Artfiore1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2001 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA Posts: 457	vze3t9q9, I think people are usually really into what they're currently doing (as Larry Hagman was during his "Dallas" days), always thinking it's better than anything else they've done before -- which to them is now "ancient history." As much fame as he had gained on "I Dream Of Jeannie," it certainly didn't compare to the attention he received on "Dallas" . . . especially after J.R. was shot. But then, after enough time has passed, any and all negative feelings, including beliefs that it was inferior -- and unpleasant memories, if there were any -- which they may have had about the older project have all been forgotten. And, all they're left with is a fondness for whatever it was, and maybe even a desire to relive that simpler time when they were younger. You'd probably find a lot more tired 50-year-olds looking forward to a high school reunion than successful 30-year-olds who are. Later, Art

06-15-2003, 10:39 PM	#21
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	Art, I think you hit the nail on the head on how Larry's feelings towards the series have softened. As for Bill Daily's comments, I also thought they were unnecessary, and kind of low-class. No matter how he felt about Wayne's performance as Tony (I didn't think he was that bad, considering he had a thankless job) it's bad form to bad-mouth a colleague in public.

06-16-2003, 01:43 AM	#22
Artfiore1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2001 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA Posts: 457	TV Guy, Thank you very much. And, as for Bill Daily's badmouthing a colleague in public, immediately afterward, he said, "This is not live, because I would have never said that. We're not on. Thank goodness." What was that all about? Was it live, and he didn't know it? Or, were the interview and calls pre-recorded, then shown later . . . and either somebody made a mistake or doublecrossed him? Later, Art

06-18-2003, 03:46 PM	#23
BLT Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 06, 2003 Posts: 496	*whether you l liked it or not, "MASH" was an outstanding series -- probably the greatest show ever, and Wayne Rogers was marvelous in his role on that show** I may have been too harsh, I know MASH was a much beloved show and i'm glad that people like it. But as a kid, I didn't know about his filmography, I just knew it wasn't JR. That's all.