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GeorgiaboyJeff! · 05-26-2003, 08:54 PM

I love the character of Edith and everything like that & it was a powerful episode! I wondered what direction they would have taked it if they had let that man had actually raped Edith! She'd probably be more shook & would have been more powerful..... I'm glad they didn't go that route before.... I wish they had explored this more.... the thing I hate about tv shows... is that after something traumatizing happens... they have something on it for 2 or 3 episodes and then they have the next episode where everything is perfectly normal like nothing happens. I wish they would have had 2 or 3 more episodes of seeing how this can really affect a woman's or even a man's life. One episode where Edith could lose all trust in men & be frightened of them... and distancing herself from Archie. I just wish they would have had more depth in her finding a counselor and then dropping it.

KayEn78 · 05-26-2003, 10:07 PM

I see what you mean....when something terrible happens, it's forgotten in the very next episode. But remember the AITF episode (a 3-parter actually) when Archie (nearly) cheated on Edith? That was mentioned in several episodes, even up to the last season. That's one example...the one you gave was good too...about Edith seeing a counselor. But they didn't go into that. I guess you can only do so many things at a time. And maybe because the episode got such a strong reaction from the audience and viewers, they didn't want to keep "dragging it out" several episodes later. Maybe...
-Kristi

DarleneIllyria · 05-26-2003, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by GeorgiaboyJeff!
I love the character of Edith and everything like that & it was a powerful episode! I wondered what direction they would have taked it if they had let that man had actually raped Edith! She'd probably be more shook & would have been more powerful..... I'm glad they didn't go that route before.... I wish they had explored this more.... the thing I hate about tv shows... is that after something traumatizing happens... they have something on it for 2 or 3 episodes and then they have the next episode where everything is perfectly normal like nothing happens. I wish they would have had 2 or 3 more episodes of seeing how this can really affect a woman's or even a man's life. One episode where Edith could lose all trust in men & be frightened of them... and distancing herself from Archie. I just wish they would have had more depth in her finding a counselor and then dropping it.

That's what pisses me off with some shows. These instant miracle shows. Okay, lets say someone has a really, really serious drug/alchol/eating disorder problem. They take an episode, maybe two, possibly three episodes to deal with the storyline. You telling me, if someone has a really serious drug/alchol/eating disorder problem that it will clear up immediately w/in that ep, 2 eps, or 3 eps?

Yeah, for some that might happen, but what about falling off the wagon. I can see why the show wouldn't use a whole season story arc for one situation, but at least let the person fall off the wagon once or twice. It makes a show more realistic to me.

I'm sorry, but I just really can't stand it if someone is heavy into drugs in combo of eps and once the 1,2, 3 eps are done, they treat everything like, *sucking on lollypop* 'everything is so dandy. ladidaladdida. I've been using drugs secretly for like 3 years and now I'm flying straight after three episodes' I hate it. jmo

ClesStahn · 05-30-2003, 11:48 AM

Oh man, I didn't know Edit was raped, I thought she was just attacked. That is SAD. It would've been sad enough if she was "Just attacked", actually. Did she die because of this? Was this the last episode of "All in the Family", or the first episode of "Archie Bunker's Place", or what? I don't think I could take watching this episode, to tell the truth.

KayEn78 · 05-30-2003, 12:52 PM

She wasn't raped, she was able to stand up to her attacker. And in the next episode, they show how she's still having a hard time dealing with what had happened to her.
-Kristi

TVFactFan · 05-30-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by ClesStahn
Oh man, I didn't know Edit was raped, I thought she was just attacked. That is SAD. It would've been sad enough if she was "Just attacked", actually. Did she die because of this? Was this the last episode of "All in the Family", or the first episode of "Archie Bunker's Place", or what? I don't think I could take watching this episode, to tell the truth.

This was a All in The Family Episode in 1977 Not Archie Bunkers PLace.

Janice · 05-31-2003, 11:01 PM

He collapsed and died while in Washington to film Rose Red (2001) (mini).

Received numerous death threats after he played a character who tried to rape Edith Bunker in "All in the Family" (1971) "Edith's 50th Birthday, Part One" 10/16/1977

His wife, Carol Muske, wrote a book titled Life after Death, where a woman upset at her husband for leaving her and child says to him "Why don't you just die?". The next day he dies of a heart attack on a tennis court. Shortly after the book was completed, David Dukes went to play tennis and died of a heart attack.

Janice · 05-31-2003, 11:04 PM

Former discussions on Edith's attempted rape.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=57194

TVFactFan · 05-31-2003, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Janice
He collapsed and died while in Washington to film Rose Red (2001) (mini).

Received numerous death threats after he played a character who tried to rape Edith Bunker in "All in the Family" (1971) "Edith's 50th Birthday, Part One" 10/16/1977

His wife, Carol Muske, wrote a book titled Life after Death, where a woman upset at her husband for leaving her and child says to him "Why don't you just die?". The next day he dies of a heart attack on a tennis court. Shortly after the book was completed, David Dukes went to play tennis and died of a heart attack.

Well whoever sent him death threats was CRAZY because they wasn't normal enough to realize he just played a character on a sitcom.

Janice · 05-31-2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON
I'm sorry but this episode made no sense to me. Why in the world would the producers have EDITH being attacked? I think it would have more sense to put Gloria in that situation since she was younger. Edith to me gave off a grandmom type of vibe and to see her in that situation just didn't look right to me. It actually made my stomach kind of queasy. But this is just my opinion. I honestly don't think that episode should be shown in syndication.

Rape isn't about sex. Anyone can pick someone up in a bar and have sex, so that isn't what rapists want. Rape is an act of violence and control.
People of all ages and gender get raped...babies, children, the elderly, even mentally ******** people who are institutionalized.
I recall a case where a hospital worker actually raped a women who was in a coma for years. She got pregnant.
I think this was one of the best episodes ever of All In The Family.

DarleneIllyria · 06-01-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

Well whoever sent him death threats was CRAZY because they wasn't normal enough to realize he just played a character on a sitcom.

Numerous people do that. Take George Reeves for an example. I know he isn't with us anymore, but I bet people came up to him and acted like he was really Superman. Fly for me Superman. I want to see how fast you can fly. George Reeves couldn't fly by himself. Superman could fly with the special wires.

Or Leonard Nimoy. I think this happened to him. I read it in one of his books, unless I have him confused with somebody else. But somebody came up to him, the person had a sick child or a sick grandchild, take your pick. The person wanted Leonard to come and heal the kid. Leonard Nimoy is just a plain man. Yes, he played Spock, but he can't do the stuff he did as Mr. Spock. Mr. Spock was a character and part of a storyline, but I bet so many people think of him as Spock then they do Leonard Nimoy.

You pick any famous actor that played a famous character, and I can guarantee you that somebody confuses the actor with the character.

Celtic Avenger · 07-15-2003, 04:42 PM

Me and one of my friends were talking.... did Edith die during this ep. or in a later ep.?

TVFactFan · 07-15-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Celtic Avenger
Me and one of my friends were talking.... did Edith die during this ep. or in a later ep.?

No Edith didn't die on All in the Family, she died on a episode of (Archie Bunker's PLace). Archie's Bunkers Place was a REVAMPED version of All in the Family which started in the Fall of 1979.

Janice · 07-25-2003, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Merkerson
What do you know about it, Jenny? You weren't even alive when George Reeves played Superman.

You don't have to be alive to know about something. I know a lot about the Civil War, and I wasn't born until almost 100 years after it ended.

KayEn78 · 07-25-2003, 09:47 PM

I've studied the Great Depression and World War II and that ended in 1945. I didn't come around until 1978. So, yes, you can know many things that happened before you were alive.
-Kristi

05-26-2003, 10:07 PM	#17
KayEn78 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 23, 2002 Location: Rolling Meadows, Illinois Posts: 201	I see what you mean....when something terrible happens, it's forgotten in the very next episode. But remember the AITF episode (a 3-parter actually) when Archie (nearly) cheated on Edith? That was mentioned in several episodes, even up to the last season. That's one example...the one you gave was good too...about Edith seeing a counselor. But they didn't go into that. I guess you can only do so many things at a time. And maybe because the episode got such a strong reaction from the audience and viewers, they didn't want to keep "dragging it out" several episodes later. Maybe... -Kristi
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05-31-2003, 11:01 PM	#22
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	On David Dukes, from imdb He collapsed and died while in Washington to film Rose Red (2001) (mini). Received numerous death threats after he played a character who tried to rape Edith Bunker in "All in the Family" (1971) "Edith's 50th Birthday, Part One" 10/16/1977 His wife, Carol Muske, wrote a book titled Life after Death, where a woman upset at her husband for leaving her and child says to him "Why don't you just die?". The next day he dies of a heart attack on a tennis court. Shortly after the book was completed, David Dukes went to play tennis and died of a heart attack.

07-15-2003, 04:42 PM	#27
Celtic Avenger 6"3' soccer baller!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2003 Posts: 7	Did she die?? Me and one of my friends were talking.... did Edith die during this ep. or in a later ep.?
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05-26-2003, 08:54 PM	#16
GeorgiaboyJeff! Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 25, 2002 Posts: 664	I love the character of Edith and everything like that & it was a powerful episode! I wondered what direction they would have taked it if they had let that man had actually raped Edith! She'd probably be more shook & would have been more powerful..... I'm glad they didn't go that route before.... I wish they had explored this more.... the thing I hate about tv shows... is that after something traumatizing happens... they have something on it for 2 or 3 episodes and then they have the next episode where everything is perfectly normal like nothing happens. I wish they would have had 2 or 3 more episodes of seeing how this can really affect a woman's or even a man's life. One episode where Edith could lose all trust in men & be frightened of them... and distancing herself from Archie. I just wish they would have had more depth in her finding a counselor and then dropping it.

05-30-2003, 11:48 AM	#19
ClesStahn Senior Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 30, 2001 Posts: 500	Oh man, I didn't know Edit was raped, I thought she was just attacked. That is SAD. It would've been sad enough if she was "Just attacked", actually. Did she die because of this? Was this the last episode of "All in the Family", or the first episode of "Archie Bunker's Place", or what? I don't think I could take watching this episode, to tell the truth.

05-30-2003, 12:52 PM	#20
KayEn78 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 23, 2002 Location: Rolling Meadows, Illinois Posts: 201	She wasn't raped, she was able to stand up to her attacker. And in the next episode, they show how she's still having a hard time dealing with what had happened to her. -Kristi

05-31-2003, 11:04 PM	#23
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Former discussions on Edith's attempted rape. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=57194

07-25-2003, 09:47 PM	#30
KayEn78 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 23, 2002 Location: Rolling Meadows, Illinois Posts: 201	I've studied the Great Depression and World War II and that ended in 1945. I didn't come around until 1978. So, yes, you can know many things that happened before you were alive. -Kristi