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Old 05-24-2003, 09:29 AM   #16
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instead of booing in Boston, everyone just sold back their tickets. (actions speak louder than words lol)she had the right to speak her mind but when people are fighting and dieing for your freedom you have to support them and be proud of your country. think before you speak
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Since the Chicks are undoubtably worth millions now, I wonder if Natalie would have shot off her big mouth or should I say "right to freedom of speech" when they were first trying to break into the music buisness?
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instead of booing in Boston, everyone just sold back their tickets. (actions speak louder than words lol)she had the right to speak her mind but when people are fighting and dieing for your freedom you have to support them and be proud of your country. think before you speak
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Old 05-24-2003, 11:38 AM   #19
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Angry re: tee-shirt?

What's this about a tee-shirt she wore that's supposed to be the cause of some brouhaha?

Why do people think she should have kept her mouth shut in a foreign city like London? And why do people think that, as a celebrity, she doesn't have the right to speak her mind?

GOOD GOD, MAN, WHY ARE PEOPLE SO DEFENSIVE OVER THE PRESIDENT??? WHY DOES HE BRUISE LIKE A GRAPE FROM EVERY BIT OF CRITICISM????
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Yeah, really. As the President, he's gonna get criticism whether he likes it or not. I'm sure he's gotten it before from other celebs, so why did Natalie come under fire?
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Yeah, really. As the President, he's gonna get criticism whether he likes it or not. I'm sure he's gotten it before from other celebs, so why did Natalie come under fire?
I think, because In the country music world people are extremely sensitive when it comes to bashing the president or America. Most country music fans like George W and I think thats why people got so bent out of shape. I mean I like the president, but I really dont give a rat's ass what Natalie Maines has to say about him. She is intitled to her own opinion, just like everyone else and anything she says about him isn't going to change what I think. I'm still going to be a big fan of The Dixie Chicks no matter what she says about the president.
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instead of booing in Boston, everyone just sold back their tickets.
Everybody? Gee, where'd you hear that?
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I think, because In the country music world people are extremely sensitive when it comes to bashing the president or America. Most country music fans like George W and I think thats why people got so bent out of shape. I mean I like the president, but I really dont give a rat's ass what Natalie Maines has to say about him. She is intitled to her own opinion, just like everyone else and anything she says about him isn't going to change what I think. I'm still going to be a big fan of The Dixie Chicks no matter what she says about the president.
I'll go along with your independent thinking. But I'm not sure if "most country music fans like George W". When a huge conglomerate radio syndicater like Clear com (or whatever it's called) has the power of the microphone, it's hard to say what's really going on. They were large contributors to the Bush run up to the presidency, and have gone way out of their way to stay in the administration's good graces. I suspect that the love of money, and power in the media, has at least as much to do with that as their supposed love of George. As far as I know the Dixie Chicks shows are still sold out all over the country. I've been trying to find that out. Maybe I should check to see if tickets are available for their concert coming soon to my town!
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II have no Idea what Natalie is thinking, but the things she says just keep getting her, Emily and Marty in more heat with fans and fellow singers. I feel sorry for Emily and Marty, becuase they really haven't said anything and Natalie is the one getting them on the fans bad side imo.
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You know the saying wrong place, wrong time. Well that is what botherd me alot about her comments. A concert was not the place to say them. People paid money to hear music not political views. If Natalie wanted to excpess her views against the war. She should have booked herself on a politcal show, and read about the issues. She would've been able to make a intelligent debate against the war. She would've been able to say "I don't agree with this war and this is why". I don't think it would have nearly as much fuss.
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You know the saying wrong place, wrong time. Well that is what botherd me alot about her comments. A concert was not the place to say them. People paid money to hear music not political views. If Natalie wanted to excpess her views against the war. She should have booked herself on a politcal show, and read about the issues. She would've been able to make a intelligent debate against the war. She would've been able to say "I don't agree with this war and this is why". I don't think it would have nearly as much fuss.
Quiz time: Which of these things should NEVER be said from a concert stage?

1. "ARRIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!! ARE YOU READY TO GET YOUR ASSES ROCKED?????!!!!!!"
2. "C'MON EVERYBODY, KEEP ON SMOKIN' THEM JOINTS!!!!!!"
3. "DAMN, DO WE GOT SOME HOT LOOKING BABES OUT THERE!!!!!!"
4. "LET'S GO F IN' CRAAAAAZYYYYYYY!!!!!!"
5. "I JUST WANT ALL OF YOU TO KNOW, I'M ASHAMED OF MY PRESIDENT!!!!!! I'M DEDICATING THIS NEXT SONG TO HIM!!!!!"

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You know the saying wrong place, wrong time. Well that is what botherd me alot about her comments. A concert was not the place to say them. People paid money to hear music not political views. If Natalie wanted to excpess her views against the war. She should have booked herself on a politcal show, and read about the issues. She would've been able to make a intelligent debate against the war. She would've been able to say "I don't agree with this war and this is why". I don't think it would have nearly as much fuss.
I agree sara, if she wanted to pop off about the president she could of picked a more appropriate place to do it at.
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Cool re: It musta been tha right place, but it was tha wrong time...

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You know the saying wrong place, wrong time. Well that is what botherd me alot about her comments. A concert was not the place to say them. People paid money to hear music not political views. If Natalie wanted to excpess her views against the war. She should have booked herself on a politcal show, and read about the issues. She would've been able to make a intelligent debate against the war. She would've been able to say "I don't agree with this war and this is why". I don't think it would have nearly as much fuss.
Uhhh, I think the reason why she said it when and where she did was because she felt that the audience was in agreement with her. And I don't think she was trying to preach politics to her London audience, either.
Should Bruce Springsteen have not talked about "politics" in concert when Reagan co-opted the use of his name back in 1984 in a speech? Apparently, conservative columnist George Will went to a Bruce Springsteen concert and, admittedly not knowing or caring for the Boss' political views, interpreted "Born In the U.S.A." as a flag-waving patriotic ditty. He got the word to Reagan, who came out and praised Bruce as one of the people who shared Reagan's dream for America, etc. Bruce was very puzzled about this misuse of his name and his ideals by a president he felt had betrayed the hopes and dreams of the American working class. He wondered onstage what album of his was Reagan's favorite--probably not "Nebraska."

So the Dixie Chicks "shouldn't" have talked politics from the stage.
Kinda funny how they couldn't resist, seeing that the world was on the verge of an event of international importance...But what I am wondering, if all these country singers like Toby Keith, Alan Jackson, Charlie Daniels, and even Ted Nugent, by that same token, should keep quiet on the stage about comments SUPPORTING Bush. Can't preach politics, right?

I imagine a lot of us have gone to Christian concerts where 20 minutes or so is spent preaching and talking than rocking...
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You know the saying wrong place, wrong time. Well that is what botherd me alot about her comments. A concert was not the place to say them. People paid money to hear music not political views. If Natalie wanted to excpess her views against the war. She should have booked herself on a politcal show, and read about the issues. She would've been able to make a intelligent debate against the war. She would've been able to say "I don't agree with this war and this is why". I don't think it would have nearly as much fuss.
You assume a lot. Could it be that Natalie has "read about the issues" but spontaniously chose to voice her one single, and now overblown, sentence where she spends most of her time--on stage. If she had "booked herself on a political show" and went on to say, "I'm ashamed that president Bush comes from Texas," would you have had a little less trouble taking that in? How would you know that "Peope paid money to hear her music, not political views"? Of course they went to hear her music, but a certain amount of banter from the musicians to the crowd between songs is most always a welcome and enjoyable bonus at a concert. I saw Alison Krauss play live. She told short stories between nearly every song. Listening to her talk was one of my favorite parts of the whole experience. And thats saying a lot since I was in second heaven listening to her and her band, Union Station's music.
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I used to be a huge fan of the Dixie Chicks until all this happened. I support President Buch in all of his desicions, and I think Natailie had every right to say what she said, but not at a concert in front of thousands of people. It just seems to me like she was trying to persuade everyone at that concert to be against President Bush, and thats wrong for celebrities to do that in my opinoion.
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