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Old 12-26-2002, 11:51 PM   #16
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I have compared them with the episodes that I recorded from WGN, and TBS.... and they have the same quality.

Not quality, i wanted to know were more scenes missing out of the episodes you recorded off the local tv stations?
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Not quality, i wanted to know were more scenes missing out of the episodes you recorded off the local tv stations?
They edit the episodes as well as WGN, and TBS do.
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Old 12-27-2002, 07:19 PM   #18
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TBS and most other stations air the same version of episodes as local stations do. However, stations like Nick-at-Nite, TV Land, and some others get different edits.
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Old 12-27-2002, 07:57 PM   #19
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TBS and most other stations air the same version of episodes as local stations do. However, stations like Nick-at-Nite, TV Land, and some others get different edits.

This is very true....I do think that the worst edited of all the classic sitcoms are Gilligan's Island and The Brady Bunch regardless of whether they are the local or cable versions. Here is a question that I have, on the older shows, such as Gilligan's Island and the Brady Bunch, you'll see a "quick fade to black when something is edited" Yet, shows such as All in the Family, I Love Lucy, Leave it to Beaver and the Bob Newhart Show don't have the "fade to black" when something is cut out, yet we all know that these shows still have cuts in them, what is the reason for why you can see the quick fade to black when something is cut out on some shows and on other shows you don't?

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Well, personally, I don't watch much on local channels anymore. But recently, Channel 50 in Chicago aired the Jeffersons and Good Times weeknights and I found those broadcasts much better than the versions that Nick at Nite and TV Land and TBS aired. It seemed like there was an extra minute of program topping off at 23:00 while on TV Land or Nick it was about 21 or 22:00 minutes.

Also, I prefer the syndicated versions of The Brady Bunch, Nick at Nite and TV Land's versions are rather chopped up and abrupt this is the same for The Golden Girls on Lifetime. Lifetime puts in abrupt commercial breaks while the commercial breaks that where seen on local channels weren't as bad.

Bottom line, I think local is better.
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I tried to record a episode off of WPSG, Channel 57-A UPN affilaite in philadelphia, and the episode of All in The Family was so badly chopped up that i couldn't keep it on tape. The same thing happened with Sanford and Son which is why I'm glad the marathon is coming on in 2 weeks on TV LAND. So i now realized that watching a sitcom on local tv stations are only for watching, not recording. For recording just stick to N@N, TBS, and TV LAND. Has anyone else tried to record a show off their local TV stations?
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Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

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Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

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I was told that if I record a sitcom off a local TV station and record the same episode off N@N or TV LAND, i basically have a UNCUT episode. So i have been recording sanford and son off my local station and will record the same episodes this weekend on the TV LAND marathon this weekend
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Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

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well it's official, the sanford and son episode i recorded off of my local station last night has a different version from the one I recorded off TV LAND on august 27th. So i guess that statement was true about having a uncut episode when you record off of a local tv station and cable station.
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I took a look at a bunch of Mork and Mindy episodes (recorded from WHMB in Indiana) and they seem to be edited a lot. In the episode "Present Tense", they cut out the scene with the exterminator advising Mork to go back to his roots. In the "Pajama Game II" episode, in which Mearth invited a friend over to spend the night, the part where Bickley interrupts the party with a fire extinguisher is cut. There were also several episodes without the "Mork Calling Orson" sequences at the end; they just jump to the end credits.
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Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.

My local WB affilate's edit of The Andy Griffith Show has more "funny" scenes compared to TV Land (10:00 & 10:30 PM weekdays). Also, the edits of "We Love Lucy" (syndicated edits of L&D Comedy Hour - occasionally at 6:00 & 6:30AM) are better, even though 4 to 5 minutes more are missing than from the TVL edits. And, don't even get me started on how much better my UPN's edits of the original Star Trek are. (Altough TOS is back on Sci-Fi weeknights at 11)

I love TV Land and N@N, b/c they show alot of shows you can't find anywhere else. But, the Birmingham stations do show some shows that are not on classic TV stations.
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Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.

My local WB affilate's edit of The Andy Griffith Show has more "funny" scenes compared to TV Land (10:00 & 10:30 PM weekdays). Also, the edits of "We Love Lucy" (syndicated edits of L&D Comedy Hour - occasionally at 6:00 & 6:30AM) are better, even though 4 to 5 minutes more are missing than from the TVL edits. And, don't even get me started on how much better my UPN's edits of the original Star Trek are. (Altough TOS is back on Sci-Fi weeknights at 11)

I love TV Land and N@N, b/c they show alot of shows you can't find anywhere else. But, the Birmingham stations do show some shows that are not on classic TV stations.

i agree with you. local stations do have better edited packages. This is a old post that someone responded to last night. i posted this message well over a month ago before i started realizing that most local cuts show more in the beginning and the middle of a episode. So this is a old post.
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Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.

That's a BIG emphasis on "some".

The FOX station that we get here...I'm in central PA, and oddly enough, I get the New York based FOX...anyway, they HEAVILY trim FRIENDS when it plays at night. Some of the funniest lines that I saw in the origional broadcast are missing, only to make room for yet another Jarred/Subway commercial.

TBS seems to do a good job at keeping their shows fairly intact...although there are moments where an edit was obvious (laughing suddenly cuts out, character has moved slightly, etc.). Roseanne, Drew Carey,Friends, Home Improvement, and Seinfeld all seem to be in fairly good condition...although I never watched Seinfeld or Roseanne when they were origionally broadcast.

Now, don't even get me started on editing movies on TV....hmm...
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That's a BIG emphasis on "some".

The FOX station that we get here...I'm in central PA, and oddly enough, I get the New York based FOX...anyway, they HEAVILY trim FRIENDS when it plays at night. Some of the funniest lines that I saw in the origional broadcast are missing, only to make room for yet another Jarred/Subway commercial.

TBS seems to do a good job at keeping their shows fairly intact...although there are moments where an edit was obvious (laughing suddenly cuts out, character has moved slightly, etc.). Roseanne, Drew Carey,Friends, Home Improvement, and Seinfeld all seem to be in fairly good condition...although I never watched Seinfeld or Roseanne when they were origionally broadcast.

Now, don't even get me started on editing movies on TV....hmm...

Yeah TBS did show the tag scenes for for Good Times and Three's Company. Something local stations rarely show in syndication.
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